https://nypost.com/2024/02/03/sports/rick-pitino-concerned-for-ncaa-st-johns-in-nil-era/amp/
His concerns are legitimate though. The NCAA was ill-prepared to implement NIL in light of the transfer portal and more. Nothing wrong with student athletes getting paid... but have a plan. With the transfer portal, and NIL, you ned different rules. Maybe the athletes who are not getting paid have to adhere to a minimal contract. There can be parameters around the contract that includes potential coaching changes etc. But have a plan.
I guess his concerns are legitimate. But it's kind of rich that Rick Pitino is bitching about the NCAA's lack of rules on something.
Losing 5 of 6 will do that.
This ain't Iona Rick!
He did the same thing coaching Panathinaikos in Greece- left the second things got hard.
Did it again coaching the national team for a short stint.
He's great, and I wouldn't be shocked if he figures out a way to take the Johnnies to the EE once before he steps away, but it'll come quick if it ever does because patience is no longer his virtue.
Quote from: DoctorV on February 03, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Losing 5 of 6 will do that.
This ain't Iona Rick!
He did the same thing coaching Panathinaikos in Greece- left the second things got hard.
Did it again coaching the national team for a short stint.
He's great, and I wouldn't be shocked if he figures out a way to take the Johnnies to the EE once before he steps away, but it'll come quick if it ever does because patience is no longer his virtue.
I mean, his stints in Greece were short because he got a chance to coach in the USA.
An old school coach who bitches about the current state of college basketball is probably not going to meet with much success.
Isn't Rick the guy who came into SJU, told all the players but the All Big East one they had to leave, and then used money from his school's billionaire alum to pay all the free agent transfers he wanted? Have some goddamn self awareness man.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 04, 2024, 06:27:10 AM
An old school coach who bitches about the current state of college basketball is probably not going to meet with much success.
I agree with him. NIL has changes the landscape. It will be haves and have nots. I believe UCONN has the most NIL money in the BE.
Quote from: 79Warrior on February 04, 2024, 08:47:35 AM
I agree with him. NIL has changes the landscape. It will be haves and have nots. I believe UCONN has the most NIL money in the BE.
There's always been haves and have nots in college athletics. Never has been a level playing field and never will be.
Also, Pitino is right. The NCAA screwed the pooch on these issues for decades
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 04, 2024, 08:53:11 AM
There's always been haves and have nots in college athletics. Never has been a level playing field and never will be.
Also, Pitino is right. The NCAA screwed the pooch on these issues for decades
Yep. Adherence to the long outdated concept of amateurism has lead to terrible outcomes.
I also don't have a lot of sympathy for coaches who have enriched themselves over the course of the last couple of decades only to now complain about the players wanting $$$. It's not like many of them were ever voices of reform.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 04, 2024, 08:58:23 AM
Yep. Adherence to the long outdated concept of amateurism has lead to terrible outcomes.
I also don't have a lot of sympathy for coaches who have enriched themselves over the course of the last couple of decades only to now complain about the players wanting $$$. It's not like many of them were ever voices of reform.
The last part is true. I think Pitino's larger point is the NCAA is stupid more than looking for pity.
College basketball is a different animal than football but it is interesting to see guys leave head coaching jobs on the football side for assistant jobs, either at the college level or professional level. Don't think it happens in hoops but if it does...
If it does there will be plenty lined up to take their place.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/06/sports/rick-pitino-wants-a-salary-cap-for-college-basketball/amp/
Good thing Ricky never went into labor law.
Jay Wright quit because he didn't like the direction things were going. He was an old school basketball coach and teacher who didn't want to be a Chief Financial Officer.
Pitino should quit as well. Then call Dabo and advise him to quit.
Maybe Rick could do something if he played in a bigger, more desirable market.
Rick's probably upset NIL has made it a more level playing field. The strippers don't seal the deal for recruits anymore.
Quote from: DoctorV on February 03, 2024, 08:46:07 PM
Losing 5 of 6 will do that.
This ain't Iona Rick!
He did the same thing coaching Panathinaikos in Greece- left the second things got hard.
Did it again coaching the national team for a short stint.
He's great, and I wouldn't be shocked if he figures out a way to take the Johnnies to the EE once before he steps away, but it'll come quick if it ever does because patience is no longer his virtue.
He ain't gonna figure out getting them to EE.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 07, 2024, 06:27:31 PM
Rick's probably upset NIL has made it a more level playing field. The strippers don't seal the deal for recruits anymore.
Strippers handing out bags of cash might though. Don't let slimeball get that idea.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 07, 2024, 07:51:33 PM
Strippers handing out bags of cash might though. Don't let slimeball get that idea.
Marquette should use strippers with bags of cash
That is a sin.
Quote from: Jockey on February 07, 2024, 04:24:18 PM
Jay Wright quit because he didn't like the direction things were going. He was an old school basketball coach and teacher who didn't want to be a Chief Financial Officer.
Did Wright say that?
I'm not doubting that he did, and I wouldn't blame him. I just never heard that.
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2024, 08:05:43 PM
That is a sin.
Only if you believe in that sort of thing
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2024, 08:05:43 PM
That is a sin.
but if for the bigger good...getting players that can beat Wisconsin...it could be rationalized as justified, I think
Quote from: Viper on February 07, 2024, 08:33:10 PM
but if for the bigger good...getting players that can beat Wisconsin...it could be rationalized as justified, I think
I'm good with years like last year and this year anytime. Would take this over Howard and Rowsey smoking Madison and missing the Tournament.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 07, 2024, 08:35:45 PM
I'm good with years like last year and this year anytime. Would take this over Howard and Rowsey smoking Madison and missing the Tournament.
true!...but that was a fun game
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 07, 2024, 09:25:19 PM
Isn't that supposed to be Stevie?
I'll wait for verification from Willie the Dung Master
Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2024, 08:05:43 PM
That is a sin.
The Jesuits are sure to shoot this down, but our new motto could be "Winning by Sinning".
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 08, 2024, 06:45:07 AM
The Jesuits are sure to shoot this down, but our new motto could be "Winning by Sinning".
Let's roll with it
Quote from: MU82 on February 07, 2024, 08:20:58 PM
Did Wright say that?
I'm not doubting that he did, and I wouldn't blame him. I just never heard that.
I've heard other people say that about him. My guess is that is part of the reason Saban got out. The coaching takes a back seat now, It's more about being a GM than a coach. Every player on the squad is a free agent every day of the year. with NIL money. Not a criticism - just the way it is.
Quote from: Jockey on February 08, 2024, 10:26:08 AM
I've heard other people say that about him. My guess is that is part of the reason Saban got out. The coaching takes a back seat now, It's more about being a GM than a coach. Every player on the squad is a free agent every day of the year. with NIL money. Not a criticism - just the way it is.
It makes sense for it to be a factor. Just another headache to deal with, and not a small one. Would be interested in hearing Wright talk about it.
Quote from: Jockey on February 08, 2024, 10:26:08 AM
I've heard other people say that about him. My guess is that is part of the reason Saban got out. The coaching takes a back seat now, It's more about being a GM than a coach. Every player on the squad is a free agent every day of the year. with NIL money. Not a criticism - just the way it is.
Packers new D coordinator left due to the college landscape as well.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/sports/jeff-hafleys-packers-move-shows-college-football-spiraling-out-of-control/
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 07, 2024, 06:27:31 PM
Rick's probably upset NIL has made it a more level playing field. The strippers don't seal the deal for recruits anymore.
I'm thinking this is why Miller hasn't been more successful at X. Lost his bag drop advantage.
Maybe it's time to totally overhaul college sports. Adopt the European sports model. No more college sports. Four or so levels of as players work their way up. The local colleges and universities still are fanatical about their local teams that are near their schools.The reality is when you look at college sports there are 50-75 programs that actually make money. That depends on whose analysis you accept. As on old Warrior it would sadden me but reality is what it is. Everything is out of control and things are going more professional every day. The snowball going down the hill is building up speed.
Quote from: AccredoJoe on February 08, 2024, 02:36:45 PM
Maybe it's time to totally overhaul college sports. Adopt the European sports model. No more college sports. Four or so levels of as players work their way up. The local colleges and universities still are fanatical about their local teams that are near their schools.The reality is when you look at college sports there are 50-75 programs that actually make money. That depends on whose analysis you accept. As on old Warrior it would sadden me but reality is what it is. Everything is out of control and things are going more professional every day. The snowball going down the hill is building up speed.
The day Marquette shuts down the basketball program will be the day Marquette shuts down the entire school.
Perhaps. I doubt it would be their choice if it were to happen.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 08, 2024, 02:12:37 PM
I'm thinking this is why Miller hasn't been more successful at X. Lost his bag drop advantage.
We'll see. Xavier was pretty dang good last year and made a deeper run in the NCAA Tournament than Marquette did. They brought in a solid recruiting class coming into this season. Freemantle and Hunter were projected to start for them this year and had season ending injuries/illness before the season even started, and they're still right there on the bubble. Kam Craft is probably done for the year as well.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on February 08, 2024, 02:12:37 PM
I'm thinking this is why Miller hasn't been more successful at X. Lost his bag drop advantage.
Didn't he bring in 12 new players this season?
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on February 08, 2024, 03:02:12 PM
Didn't he bring in 12 new players this season?
This was to be a rebuilding year, but I think he has exceeded that in terms of expectations.
Quote from: AccredoJoe on February 08, 2024, 02:36:45 PM
Maybe it's time to totally overhaul college sports. Adopt the European sports model. No more college sports. Four or so levels of as players work their way up. The local colleges and universities still are fanatical about their local teams that are near their schools.The reality is when you look at college sports there are 50-75 programs that actually make money. That depends on whose analysis you accept. As on old Warrior it would sadden me but reality is what it is. Everything is out of control and things are going more professional every day. The snowball going down the hill is building up speed.
College sports will be around for a long time. And they will be fine.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 08, 2024, 02:53:59 PM
We'll see. Xavier was pretty dang good last year and made a deeper run in the NCAA Tournament than Marquette did. They brought in a solid recruiting class coming into this season. Freemantle and Hunter were projected to start for them this year and had season ending injuries/illness before the season even started, and they're still right there on the bubble. Kam Craft is probably done for the year as well.
This.
Miller is a good coach and a pretty solid recruiter. Despite likely having less bag many than lots of other coaches he's been very solid at X.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 08, 2024, 03:05:09 PM
This was to be a rebuilding year, but I think he has exceeded that in terms of expectations.
I watch X frequently because of my daughter. They looked like they were figuring things out for the 2023 portion of the season and they've looked vastly improved and good in 2024. Other than Olivari they are heavy on Freshman and Sophomores too.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/sports/rick-pitino-predicts-transfer-portal-chaos-after-selection-sunday/amp/
Quote from: Viper on February 07, 2024, 08:33:10 PM
but if for the bigger good...getting players that can beat Wisconsin...it could be rationalized as justified, I think
You guys didn't study Aquinas' Just Stripper Theory in THEO101?