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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: The Lens on January 25, 2024, 07:43:28 AM
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Please use this space to catalog all the crime that happened to Scoopers who endeavored to see MU play in person last night in the crime ridden city of Chicago.
And yes Mods, I understand that Scoop has limited bandwidth so I know not every crime will be able to be documented.
I have heard from people close to the program that the team made it to the Lake Forest Oasis. Apparently the team (traveling party of 43) has 77 armed guards (good guys with guns) protecting them. But there looked to be 2500 MU fans there last night. I would assume they're all dead. 2500 seems like a low murder count on typical Chicago night, but we'll see.
Say your prayers.
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This ought to work out well.
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I want to report David Joplin being too close to a guy shooting a half courter. That was a crime to me.
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I want to report David Joplin being too close to a guy shooting a half courter. That was a crime to me.
crime begets crime
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Attendance was over 6K, and MU had more than 2500 fans. Closer to 5K. Great alumni event as MU reserved the whole restaurant. Packed. Free beer and pizza.
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Attendance was over 6K, and MU had more than 2500 fans. Closer to 5K. Great alumni event as MU reserved the whole restaurant. Packed. Free beer and pizza.
Thank goodness the restaurant wasn't shot up by some lunatic who thought it was Comet Ping Pong and y'all were cannibals running a child sex-trafficking outfit.
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I heard some fans were beat to a pulp. Unfortunately because they were not murdered, this does not count towards violent crime so I don't know the real number on that.
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I was murdered twice just reading this thread.
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I heard some fans were beat to a pulp.
Every day on scoop
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this is kinda weird-i suppose it's meant to be funny because...?? shouldn't it be in teal then? otherwise, i sure hope no one got injured in any way or fashion much less murdered as i doubt anyone who knows someone who has been murdered or experienced violent crime would be amused.
did someone say they weren't going to the game because they were afraid of being murdered?
anyway, have fun with this as i see many already are
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this is kinda weird-i suppose it's meant to be funny because...?? shouldn't it be in teal then? otherwise, i sure hope no one got injured in any way or fashion much less murdered as i doubt anyone who knows someone who has been murdered or experienced violent crime would be amused.
did someone say they weren't going to the game because they were afraid of being murdered?
anyway, have fun with this as i see many already are
Mope
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O, dis iz fookin' hilarious. Sew taught provokin' and informative, aina?
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this is kinda weird-i suppose it's meant to be funny because...?? shouldn't it be in teal then? otherwise, i sure hope no one got injured in any way or fashion much less murdered as i doubt anyone who knows someone who has been murdered or experienced violent crime would be amused.
did someone say they weren't going to the game because they were afraid of being murdered?
anyway, have fun with this as i see many already are
All of your posts are funny, yet none are in teal.
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Il Culaccino was filled with MU fans. Alas, they did not have their restaurant week menu available last night ( they learned their lesson last year, I think). Does that count as a crime of some sort?
On the other hand, it freed me up to order the pasta in vodka sauce, as opposed to their set Restaurant Week menu…
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freed me up to order the pasta in vodka sauce
I can only assume you murdered that?
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It's almost like constantly dwelling on the crime rate of an American city is a ridiculous pursuit.
huh.
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How many crows were there in downtown Chicago?
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Mope
me? it was one of your buds that put this thing out there-you should be helping him out here with all you profound wit and wisdom. maybe even suggestions on how we can diminish "unfounded" fears of fellow scoopers and MU fans getting out and about
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maybe even suggestions on how we can diminish "unfounded" fears of fellow scoopers and MU fans getting out and about
1. Check to make sure your dentist didn't graduate from Marquette.
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1. Check to make sure your dentist didn't graduate from Marquette.
I did that last week.
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me? it was one of your buds that put this thing out there-you should be helping him out here with all you profound wit and wisdom. maybe even suggestions on how we can diminish "unfounded" fears of fellow scoopers and MU fans getting out and about
You posted this 49 minutes after 4ever answered a question about how to buy parking with a post about 700 break-ins in the Fiserv parking structure.
The call is coming from inside the house.
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me? it was one of your buds that put this thing out there-you should be helping him out here with all you profound wit and wisdom. maybe even suggestions on how we can diminish "unfounded" fears of fellow scoopers and MU fans getting out and about
From the little I know about Lens (basically nothing), I figure I don't need to tell them that they simply do not need to be afraid of minorities. A healthy paranoia of their healthcare providers now, that may be good advice now more than ever!
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You posted this 49 minutes after 4ever answered a question about how to buy parking with a post about 700 break-ins in the Fiserv parking structure.
The call is coming from inside the house.
LOL
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From the little I know about Lens (basically nothing), I figure I don't need to tell them that they simply do not need to be afraid of minorities. A healthy paranoia of their healthcare providers now, that may be good advice now more than ever!
All teeth matter
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Except baby teeth. And the ones they pull to make room for other teeth.
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All teeth matter
Does my user name mean nothing to you?
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Does my user name mean nothing to you?
Bravo
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You posted this 49 minutes after 4ever answered a question about how to buy parking with a post about 700 break-ins in the Fiserv parking structure.
The call is coming from inside the house.
?-( i have no idea what you are talking about lens. what post are you referring to? parking? break-ins? is that in a different topic? i honestly have no idea what you are referencing
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I hope MU played well last night. I was afraid to watch as I didn't want the violence to seep through the TV.
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Even DePaul acknowledges this issue:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEqWcTUWQAEu6z_?format=jpg&name=small)
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I hope MU played well last night. I was afraid to watch as I didn't want the violence to seep through the TV.
Well MU plays with violence so you're never really safe.
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Well MU plays with violence so you're never really safe.
Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots disrupted
Incident location: 200 E Cermak Rd
Approximate time: 8:41 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: None
MUBB responded to a report of shots taken near 200 E Cermak Rd. Evidence of a shot(s) taken were of three foul shots awarded to the shooter 50 feet from the basket. Alleged suspect is David Joplin.
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Initial Incident Report
Incident type: Shots disrupted
Incident location: 200 E Cermak Rd
Approximate time: 8:41 p.m.
Victims: None
Physical injuries: Brain Cramp
MUBB responded to a report of shots taken near 200 E Cermak Rd. Evidence of a shot(s) taken were of three foul shots awarded to the shooter 50 feet from the basket. Alleged suspect is David Joplin.
😂
FIFY
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I know there is a certain humorous element to this thread but I'm continually amazed at the number of Scoopers, as well as non-Scoopers, who fixate on urban crime. Somehow, I think a good number of us think that if we head to Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, NYC, etc., for a ballgame, dinner and perhaps some other entertainment, we're going to be mugged, robbed, raped and killed.
While it would be ridiculous to think this isn't happening to a degree in our major cities, it isn't a guarantee. There's misfits in every group and wherever you go, there's going to be people who do things that are unkind and an affront to society.
For many of you, I'm guessing you watch too much TV news or read too much conservative press. In Chicago, for example, what I sarcastically call the "Lovely Allison News," (Channel 5, NBC), there isn't a night that goes by where at least half, if not all but one or maybe two stories, is public safety related. Shootings, robberies, accidents or fires. I swear Natalie Martinez, their "ace" street reporter, spends her life up to her ankles in victim's blood. After awhile, that creates an impression on people, and a negative one at that. I don't think most cities' news teams are that much different.
Years ago, when I was working as a reporter, we had a competitor whose "ace" reporter new how to spin a crime story better than any three people I ever met. Those stories were dramatic and sold newspapers. They were well-written and had great art, which is why they ended up on Page 1. Most appealed to people's lesser instincts.
The late Lucas G. Staudacher, who was a professor of Journalism years ago at MU, taught a course called J-100, which was focused on news judgment. Professor Staudacher would ask the question, "What is News?" Sadly, the answer today is whatever gets "clicks", "viewers" or sells ads! What Professor Staudacher was trying to teach was perspective and while a news issue was important, what you put on Page 1, on the first click or as the lead on TV news affects people's actions and views.
My wife and I lived in the Chicago area for 44 years. After moving to Florida, we came back last summer and, for the first time, lived in the city. It was an incredible experience that was crime free, except for a bicycle theft that was my own fault for not being smarter about what I did to protect it.
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I know there is a certain humorous element to this thread but I'm continually amazed at the number of Scoopers, as well as non-Scoopers, who fixate on urban crime. Somehow, I think a good number of us think that if we head to Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, NYC, etc., for a ballgame, dinner and perhaps some other entertainment, we're going to be mugged, robbed, raped and killed.
While it would be ridiculous to think this isn't happening to a degree in our major cities, it isn't a guarantee. There's misfits in every group and wherever you go, there's going to be people who do things that are unkind and an affront to society.
For many of you, I'm guessing you watch too much TV news or read too much conservative press. In Chicago, for example, what I sarcastically call the "Lovely Allison News," (Channel 5, NBC), there isn't a night that goes by where at least half, if not all but one or maybe two stories, is public safety related. Shootings, robberies, accidents or fires. I swear Natalie Martinez, their "ace" street reporter, spends her life up to her ankles in victim's blood. After awhile, that creates an impression on people, and a negative one at that. I don't think most cities' news teams are that much different.
Years ago, when I was working as a reporter, we had a competitor whose "ace" reporter new how to spin a crime story better than any three people I ever met. Those stories were dramatic and sold newspapers. They were well-written and had great art, which is why they ended up on Page 1. Most appealed to people's lesser instincts.
The late Lucas G. Staudacher, who was a professor of Journalism years ago at MU, taught a course called J-100, which was focused on news judgment. Professor Staudacher would ask the question, "What is News?" Sadly, the answer today is whatever gets "clicks", "viewers" or sells ads! What Professor Staudacher was trying to teach was perspective and while a news issue was important, what you put on Page 1, on the first click or as the lead on TV news affects people's actions and views.
My wife and I lived in the Chicago area for 44 years. After moving to Florida, we came back last summer and, for the first time, lived in the city. It was an incredible experience that was crime free, except for a bicycle theft that was my own fault for not being smarter about what I did to protect it.
There's not much I agree with you on and didn't expect agreement on a topic like this but I applaud this post.
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There's not much I agree with you on and didn't expect agreement on a topic like this but I applaud this post.
Cities can be intimidating if you aren't used to them. So I get being uncomfortable if you have only lived in a rural area or the suburbs. Additionally there is a problem with how issues in cities are being reported.
What I don't get is how many people think that watching the news makes them an expert and especially since all alums on this board have been exposed to urban living during college and should understand this dynamic. Frankly its odd.
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This should not be an issue for any of us that lived near campus at MU.
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i loved living in milwaukee and actually missed the sound of sirens and the smell of diesel from passing buses right outside my window on 11th and wells. after graduating and moving out to waukesha, laying down to bed and hearing...nothing was weird. i loved being able to jump on a bus or walk to MU, bucks, brewers games. hitting the east side bars and eateries, etc etc
crime and violence- i get it. it's no big deal, no news is good news, happens all over, but less than what's really reported
until it happens to you or someone you know.
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Right, horrible when it happens to you or someone you care about.
Maybe just lucky during my years at MU.
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Cities can be intimidating if you aren't used to them. So I get being uncomfortable if you have only lived in a rural area or the suburbs. Additionally there is a problem with how issues in cities are being reported.
What I don't get is how many people think that watching the news makes them an expert and especially since all alums on this board have been exposed to urban living during college and should understand this dynamic. Frankly its odd.
My theory:
Rural- it's a desire to justify your lifestyle choice and easy to "other" people living differently.
Suburban- because many work downtown and their home values are dependent on the economics of the region so they feel entitled to have an opinion on every aspect of the city but without exploring 99% of the city, but when all they do is read news headlines, work in the loop (for Chicago) & see a once in a blue moon sport/play/concert, that'll skew opinions making people see parking scams, beggars, the aggressive CD guys, making people think everything's crazy expensive, etc. then there's also a similar attitude of "othering" urban areas. My in laws crap on the "urban suburb" where my wife and I live all the time and says we're looking for problems because the only non city areas we considered living were Oak Park, Evanston, & Forest Park. They're basically foaming at the mouth waiting for a break in or worse to happen and text us every crime alert they get.
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Isn't all just politics?
Hyperpoltical tend to view everything through the lens of politics. So, despite heaps of research and data showing that crime is a socioeconomic issue, those of a certain political persuasion want to believe it's the fault of the politicians (usually Democrats) who run cities .. never mind the fact that crime also is a problem in Republican-led cities and states. For these people, portraying crime as rampant and cities as war zones is simply a way to confirm their own biases.
The flip side are those who blame criminal behavior on external factors caused by others (i.e. racism, lack of government investment), which ignores the cultural and familial issues that can lead to crime
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Maybe my view is simplistic, but inability to make a decent living from working seems to lead to crime.
Why an inability to make a decent living?
Lack of decent paying jobs. Whether it is working in a factory, call center, restaurant or skilled vocation.
So Democrats and Republicans both guilty? Absolutely.
MBA grads. Absolutely. Bottom line is the dollar.
Companies fleeing the USA for cheaper labor and manufacturing costs.
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They're basically foaming at the mouth waiting for a break in or worse to happen and text us every crime alert they get.
So what you're saying is that 4Qver and his wife are your in-laws, oona?
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Isn't all just politics?
I don't think so. I think some people just have a distaste for cities. My dad just thought they were too busy and too crowded. So as a child I never made it to downtown Milwaukee or Chicago. His brother lived in the New York burbs and we would visit annually. Flew into LaGuardia and drove out to his house. Never visited NYC. He would much rather sit on a lake somewhere or take a walk in the woods.
And he was as Democratic as a Democrat could get...a borderline old school Milwaukee socialist.
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I don't think so. I think some people just have a distaste for cities. My dad just thought they were too busy and too crowded. So as a child I never made it to downtown Milwaukee or Chicago. His brother lived in the New York burbs and we would visit annually. Flew into LaGuardia and drove out to his house. Never visited NYC. He would much rather sit on a lake somewhere or take a walk in the woods.
And he was as Democratic as a Democrat could get...a borderline old school Milwaukee socialist.
I don't think we're really talking about personal preferences about where one spends leisure time I wasn't, at least.
People who prefer a week of camping in the mountains to a week of lying on a tropical beach typically don't say it's because of all the shark attacks and tsunamis. And beach fans don't say they avoid the mountains because of all the grizzlies and Yeti.
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I don't think we're really talking about personal preferences about where one spends leisure time I wasn't, at least.
People who prefer a week of camping in the mountains to a week of lying on a tropical beach typically don't say it's because of all the shark attacks and tsunamis. And beach fans don't say they avoid the mountains because of all the grizzlies and Yeti.
My point is my dad didn't like cities. And it wasn't for political reasons. Which is exactly what Frenns was suggesting. So no, it isn't "all just politics."
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My point is my dad didn't like cities. And it wasn't for political reasons. Which is exactly what Frenns was suggesting. So no, it isn't "all just politics."
He said they could be intimidating, that's a bit different than dislike. Plenty of people choose to stay in Milwaukee because a city the size of Chicago can be intimidating, but that doesn't mean they hate cities. Similarly, people may choose to stay in a small city (like when you argued Green Bay and Dayton being urban a few days ago) because a mid sized city might be intimidating, again not necessarily a disdain for cities.
In Frenns second paragraph he argues about the so called "experts" that never go in but read articles and thus feel they know that the areas a crime ridden hellscape of socialist indoctrination where people are packed like sardines. Now that segment of city haters, is the segment that I think Pakuni was referencing as "it all comes down to politics"
Essentially, your dad wasn't a city fan why that may be is up to him. Of not city fans Frenns references two segments those intimidated (May or may not fit your dad) and those who feel they're experts. Of the later Pak says they're politically motivated against cities.
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My point is my dad didn't like cities. And it wasn't for political reasons. Which is exactly what Frenns was suggesting. So no, it isn't "all just politics."
Galway already noted it, but there's a difference between "I prefer a day at the lake to a night on the town" and "cities are scary."
We're talking about the latter, not the former. Sounds like your dad was the former.
And people who promote the idea that cities are scary typically do it for political reasons.
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He said they could be intimidating, that's a bit different than dislike. Plenty of people choose to stay in Milwaukee because a city the size of Chicago can be intimidating, but that doesn't mean they hate cities. Similarly, people may choose to stay in a small city (like when you argued Green Bay and Dayton being urban a few days ago) because a mid sized city might be intimidating, again not necessarily a disdain for cities.
Green Bay and Dayton are urban. By definition.
And neither are "small." They are among 2% of the largest cities in the country. And even if you went by Metropolitan areas, both are in the top half - Dayton is even in the top quartile.
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Green Bay and Dayton are urban. By definition.
And neither are "small." They are among 2% of the largest cities in the country. And even if you went by Metropolitan areas, both are in the top half - Dayton is even in the top quartile.
Weren't you calling me a dickhead earlier this week for getting hung up on semantics? Pot meet kettle.
The broader point still remains that your dad has every right to not like cities but is not the segment they were referencing.
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Weren't you calling me a dickhead earlier this week for getting hung up on semantics?
You could have just admitted you were wrong. It would have been easier.
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You could have just admitted you were wrong. It would have been easier.
lol never change. You have the right to lash out with hominem attacks if someone else argues semantics, but defending what's right if you do it. I respect the stubbornness, less so the logical fallacy but sticking to your guns is admirable.
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Galway already noted it, but there's a difference between "I prefer a day at the lake to a night on the town" and "cities are scary."
We're talking about the latter, not the former. Sounds like your dad was the former.
And people who promote the idea that cities are scary typically do it for political reasons.
I mean, I know a variety of people who don't like cities and lived in them at one time or another, so its not like they are afraid of them. Same kind of people wouldn't like Singapore or Dubai or any other city that is largely crime free. Its just not their vibe and some outright dislike them, beyond "oh not my thing". The kind of people who won't clutch pearls about being robbed but will constantly mock or complain how much things cost in a city.
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I mean, I know a variety of people who don't like cities and lived in them at one time or another, so its not like they are afraid of them.
Right. And for the third (fourth?) time, those aren't the people we're talking about.
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For many of you, I'm guessing you watch too much TV news or read too much conservative press. In Chicago, for example, what I sarcastically call the "Lovely Allison News," (Channel 5, NBC), there isn't a night that goes by where at least half, if not all but one or maybe two stories, is public safety related. Shootings, robberies, accidents or fires. I swear Natalie Martinez, their "ace" street reporter, spends her life up to her ankles in victim's blood. After awhile, that creates an impression on people, and a negative one at that. I don't think most cities' news teams are that much different.
You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the “conservative press”? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?
Wow.
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You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the “conservative press”? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwgJgTL5JmE
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You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the “conservative press”? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?
Wow.
Reading is fundamental, Lenny. He said watch too much TV news. Which we all know is the baby boomer's favorite past time.
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He only paid attention to the scary headline.
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Reading is fundamental, Lenny. He said watch too much TV news. Which we all know is the baby boomer's favorite past time.
My mistake. Interesting that the conservative press and liberal TV news are pushing the same narrative.
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You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the “conservative press”? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?
There's a reason the local TV news cliche "if it bleeds it leads" exists.
Because it's true.
Local TV news is an entirely different beast than network news, you know?
Wow.
Transformation into Chicos is complete.
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Transformation into Chicos is complete.
Transformation into Sultan is complete.
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Transformation into Sultan is complete.
Wow. Just wow.
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Wow. Just wow.
Holy sh*t! You got a compliment out of cranky ole Lenny!!!
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It certainly isn't defamation-worthy.
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It certainly isn't defamation-worthy.
Awww...That's the nicest thing ever said about me.
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Agreed. Funny how that works sometimes.
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My mistake. Interesting that the conservative press and liberal TV news are pushing the same narrative.
Not really. Both are in the business of selling outrage. It drives viewership and therefore ad revenue. Television is all about business.
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Holy sh*t! You got a compliment out of cranky ole Lenny!!!
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Bravo
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Yeah...I loled.
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I heard about how horrible San Francisco had become. Then I talked to people that lived there and took a work trip.
Within an hour I was texting my wife saying that it had been too long since we had been there. While I’m sure there are areas still shocked by the pandemic and people on the margin struggling — the areas I visited were similar and what I fondly remembered.
The world exists offline
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I heard about how horrible San Francisco had become. Then I talked to people that lived there and took a work trip.
Within an hour I was texting my wife saying that it had been too long since we had been there. While I’m sure there are areas still shocked by the pandemic and people on the margin struggling — the areas I visited were similar and what I fondly remembered.
The world exists offline
I love cities all over the world of varying sizes and usually find some unique gems. However, I did not enjoy San Francisco at all. It may be skewed because we lost as a 1 seed in North Americans the first day & it was the hottest weekend on record but between naked old homeless lady shouting at me, a guy taking a dump in the view of our hotel, food I thought was subpar for price, an Irish pub covered in vomit (though that might've been the crowd the tournament brought), and the constant smell of urine and trash it was not my cup of tea.
Different strokes for different folks though
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Holy sh*t! You got a compliment out of cranky ole Lenny!!!
Holy sh*t! Someone on Scoop is dumb (and egotistical) enough to think that anyone morphing into Sultan is a compliment!!!
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You think that NBC news in Chicago is part of the “conservative press”? And that the NBC, CBS and ABC news teams in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc are too?
Wow.
Reread what I said. Look for the word “OR”.
NBC and the conservative press have one thing in common: They love crime stories. Period.
Crime sells. But there is a downside to crime news — it badly influences people and is reported out of proportion to the problem.
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Cough Portland Cough
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I heard about how horrible San Francisco had become. Then I talked to people that lived there and took a work trip.
Within an hour I was texting my wife saying that it had been too long since we had been there. While I’m sure there are areas still shocked by the pandemic and people on the margin struggling — the areas I visited were similar and what I fondly remembered.
The world exists offline
Government took back Market Street and Moscone for APEC. They are taking back BART now with fare evading gates. The Chinatown Central Subway is open.
Market Street is in a depression for a lot of reasons but with conferences and tourists returning it's on a slow rebound. There is talk of moving UCSF there with all the office vacancies to fill a void. Other neighborhoods are en fuego like Marina and North Beach mainly because wfh. The Presidio Tunnel Tops have been a huge success, connecting neighborhoods over 101. Many old time restaurants have shuttered but they are getting replaced, maybe for the better.
https://sfstandard.com/2023/12/05/san-francisco-market-street-pandemic-big-plans-collapsed/
Oakland which had momentum pre-COVID is an absolute Shytshow. Mostly self-inflicted.
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Reread what I said. Look for the word “OR”.
NBC and the conservative press have one thing in common: They love crime stories. Period.
Crime sells. But there is a downside to crime news — it badly influences people and is reported out of proportion to the problem.
Reread my “my mistake” reply.
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Holy sh*t! Someone on Scoop is dumb (and egotistical) enough to think that anyone morphing into Sultan is a compliment!!!
Cranky? Check!
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Cough Portland Cough
I lived in Portland during the scary "downtown is burning" years of 2020-2022. Portland is fine. I was only murdered every time I took the trash to the curb. Most "downtowns" became dead during covid, and Portland is no different. The rest of the city still had a vibrant scene.
There is a drug and homeless "problem" they'll probably never solve, but that's similar to the rest of the west coast.
Sold the house there for a nice 18% profit after 2 years, and didn't regret my time there.
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Cranky? Check!
lol
Remind us again about how badly Pakuni wants to be you.
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lol
Remind us again about how badly Pakuni wants to be you.
1. I never said that.
2. Lighten up.
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1. I never said that.
2. Lighten up.
1.Yes you did.
2. Lighten up yourself. You sound cranky.
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1.Yes you did.
2. Lighten up yourself. You sound cranky.
1. Nope
2. Nope
Ever find yourself in situations where you are not able to read the room and understand what going on? You’re in one of those situations now.
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I lived in Portland during the scary "downtown is burning" years of 2020-2022. Portland is fine. I was only murdered every time I took the trash to the curb. Most "downtowns" became dead during covid, and Portland is no different. The rest of the city still had a vibrant scene.
There is a drug and homeless "problem" they'll probably never solve, but that's similar to the rest of the west coast.
Sold the house there for a nice 18% profit after 2 years, and didn't regret my time there.
kinda like all these people too, eyn'a? they musta been a bunch of 'fraidy-cats all worked up over nothing or they all jumped on the 18% increase in their investments. they didn't realize the shangri-la they were leaving was all a figment of the "medias" imagination just trying to get clicks
more than 157,000 moved out in 2022
https://oregoneconomicanalysis.com/2023/12/07/where-did-people-leaving-portland-go/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%2077%2C400%20Oregonians%20who,Clark%20County%20specifically%20(18%25).
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kinda like all these people too, eyn'a? they musta been a bunch of 'fraidy-cats all worked up over nothing or they all jumped on the 18% increase in their investments. they didn't realize the shangri-la they were leaving was all a figment of the "medias" imagination just trying to get clicks
more than 157,000 moved out in 2022
https://oregoneconomicanalysis.com/2023/12/07/where-did-people-leaving-portland-go/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%2077%2C400%20Oregonians%20who,Clark%20County%20specifically%20(18%25).
Hope they didn’t move to Arizona. They’ll have to move again in a few years due to climate change
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kinda like all these people too, eyn'a? they musta been a bunch of 'fraidy-cats all worked up over nothing or they all jumped on the 18% increase in their investments. they didn't realize the shangri-la they were leaving was all a figment of the "medias" imagination just trying to get clicks
more than 157,000 moved out in 2022
https://oregoneconomicanalysis.com/2023/12/07/where-did-people-leaving-portland-go/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%2077%2C400%20Oregonians%20who,Clark%20County%20specifically%20(18%25).
Many People were priced out of Portland. That charts directly with what Rocky said about selling his house at an 18% profit within two years. The same has happened up and down the west coast, as well as other major cities that struggle with staffing up hourly service jobs.
The population loss really peaked during Covid as many opted for more space, but occupancy rates have actually risen in the city which suggests there’s fewer people per abode, people leaving larger family living situations and living in smaller groups. This also can be related to higher living prices as the people paying for these situations dedicate more income per capita.
Again, I have lived here for 6 years plus now including working downtown for half of that. Per what Rocky said there are some not uncommon problems with drugs and homeless. But the city has been absolutely booming in terms of restaurants and bars. I can’t find parking anywhere in evenings anymore and every place seems to be packed Thursday-Sunday. It’s good to see despite the inconvenience. A lot of young chefs come here to embrace the ease of starting food concepts in food cart pods and it shows in the city’s remarkable food scene.
The lifestyle here isn’t for everyone and there are parts of it that make me roll my eyes as every city or area I’ve lived in has. This includes different countries and all around the US. (Don’t get me started on Montreal)
What remains consistent though is you being embarrassingly afraid and dismissive of those and places different from your narrow comfort zone.
This place is not immune to criticism, it has a lot of extremely well deserved criticism in fact. But a tired delusional narrative about where I live pushed by cable news addicts make me pretty defensive! So for that everyone I apologize.
Rocket, I can drive ten mins from my house and find places with confederate flags more up your alley if that helps getting you to stop pushing a tired outdated narrative about places that scare you! (Too many shaved heads on females)
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Hope they didn’t move to Arizona. They’ll have to move again in a few years due to climate change
that's fine! most likely all the reeko types
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you had a really nice retort going until you couldn't help yourself at the end. if you think you're going to continue to use the old tired shaved head bullchit, go fornicate yourself
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The Portland food scene has nothing on East Troy's.
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The Portland food scene has nothing on East Troy's.
compared to fondu lac, probably not
keep er going smith-you guys have to be the biggest losers here on scoop
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compared to fondu lac, probably not
keep er going smith-you guys have to be the biggest losers here on scoop
Fondy? Isn't that where the highly auspicious dental convention 4Qver bragged about was held?
East Troy and Fondy. You guys really get out.
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Fondy? Isn't that where the highly auspicious dental convention 4Qver bragged about was held?
East Troy and Fondy. You guys really get out.
you should come out to east troy sometime, be happy to show you around
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Fondy? Isn't that where the highly auspicious dental convention 4Qver bragged about was held?
East Troy and Fondy. You guys really get out.
Nah man, Fondy? Isn't that where all the real dentists are, hey?
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you should come out to east troy sometime, be happy to show you around
What are you going to do after those ten minutes are up?
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What are you going to do after those ten minutes are up?
Talk your ear off about shows at Alpine Valley, based on the people I know from East Troy
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My daughter lives in Portland and I cannot believe the crazy real estate market. I was tempted to buy the duplex that my daughter lived in as an investment property and that idea lasted about ten minutes. Wish I could have made it work but the cost was insane, imo.
I will add, my daughter loves living in Portland and I trust her judgement 100%. She does not like the homeless and drug issues but she feels safe there. That said, she did have her SUV stolen and that has her being more cautious.
I have not visited her since she had been there and hoping to this summer. I spent a lot of time there a lifetime ago and loved it.
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Interesting that the real estate market is insane when "they" say that "everyone" is leaving Portland in droves!
Seriously, Goose, thanks for that report, and Plaque, too. I haven't been to Portland in quite some time. I enjoyed my visits there very much and have been saddened by some of the reports.
As is often the case, there is lots of exaggerating going on from those with ulterior motives, so it's nice to hear first-hand reports such as the one from your daughter and from Plaque. (Technically, the one from your daughter is second-hand, because you're relaying it. But I trust you totally.)
It's similar to the Chicago discussion. We have people here who have lived, worked and played in the city of Chicago for decades, and yet those who haven't stepped foot in the city claim to know more about Chicago than the Chicagoans do. It's actually pretty funny.
I hope your daughter remains safe and happy. Any big city has its moments of greatness and of difficulty. 40 years ago, we had a car stolen from the middle-class suburb of Minneapolis we lived in, and we loved that place.
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I am an old, old school Republican and my daughter is not, but she has provided me real info that I trust more than the media. I trust her judgement and love she enjoys that part of the country every day. She has done countless ultra marathons, goes skiing every weekend, camping, hiking and loving life. Plus, she is getting a Masters at Portland State and works full time for the Jesuit Volunteer Corp.
For the record, I do remind her weekly that the old school Republican part of the family has made Portland a very nice place for her to live. That said, I wish Portland was closer because I am miss my baby!!
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2. Nope
Ever find yourself in situations where you are not able to read the room and understand what going on? You’re in one of those situations now.
1.Yep
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The guy who thinks Pakuni (or anyone) would consider it a compliment to be morphing into him thinks I have trouble reading the room. It’s taken thousands of posts but you’ve finally said something funny. Unfortunately it was funny as in strange.
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Once again, thanks for the laugh.
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sorry
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1.Yep
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The guy who thinks Pakuni (or anyone) would consider it a compliment to be morphing into him thinks I have trouble reading the room. It’s taken thousands of posts but you’ve finally said something funny. Unfortunately it was funny as in strange.
That’s exactly what I mean by failure to read a room. It was a joke. It was always a joke.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
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That’s exactly what I mean by failure to read a room. It was a joke. It was always a joke.
You’re embarrassing yourself again.
BS. Being full of yourself is everywhere one looks on Scoop - in nearly every thread. It’s who you are, it’s in your DNA. Funny (other than odd) is not.
And as for embarrassing oneself, nobody does it better than you.
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you had a really nice retort going until you couldn't help yourself at the end. if you think you're going to continue to use the old tired shaved head bullchit, go fornicate yourself
I’m sorry I alluded to something unfathomably stupid you did in my retort.
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Interesting that the real estate market is insane when "they" say that "everyone" is leaving Portland in droves!
Seriously, Goose, thanks for that report, and Plaque, too. I haven't been to Portland in quite some time. I enjoyed my visits there very much and have been saddened by some of the reports.
As is often the case, there is lots of exaggerating going on from those with ulterior motives, so it's nice to hear first-hand reports such as the one from your daughter and from Plaque. (Technically, the one from your daughter is second-hand, because you're relaying it. But I trust you totally.)
It's similar to the Chicago discussion. We have people here who have lived, worked and played in the city of Chicago for decades, and yet those who haven't stepped foot in the city claim to know more about Chicago than the Chicagoans do. It's actually pretty funny.
I hope your daughter remains safe and happy. Any big city has its moments of greatness and of difficulty. 40 years ago, we had a car stolen from the middle-class suburb of Minneapolis we lived in, and we loved that place.
There’s absolutely some major issues here. But it’s become a boogeyman for brain dead cable news addicts and it’s quite annoying. I had to reassure someone attending my wedding that they didn’t have to worry about “antifa”.
Come for the rain, stay for the Thai food.
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Nm
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Huh, aina?
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Come for the rain, stay for the Thai food.
Not Thai - but Gado Gado was one of my favs.
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Not Thai - but Gado Gado was one of my favs.
Ohhh Gado Gado was fire. You have good taste it appears. If you don’t mind me asking, did you ever check out Laurelhurst market? They just opened a commissary kitchen by my house and it has possibly the best pastrami I’ve ever tasted outside of New York Jewish delis
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Just before the start of Black History Month, a Jackie Robinson statue in Wichita was sawed off at the ankles and stolen.
https://apnews.com/article/jackie-robinson-baseball-statue-stolen-beea370b17079ad30092affe6aaea3c1
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Just before the start of Black History Month, a Jackie Robinson statue in Wichita was sawed off at the ankles and stolen.
https://apnews.com/article/jackie-robinson-baseball-statue-stolen-beea370b17079ad30092affe6aaea3c1
Mike, wtf. Here, in this thread?????
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Real
It was between this thread, the SH game thread, Shaka Presser, hotel thread or Stevie thread, I guess a solid choice.
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Mike, wtf. Here, in this thread?????
Yes, that article about a crime in a big city is by far the craziest thing in this thread.
It was between this thread, the SH game thread, Shaka Presser, hotel thread or Stevie thread, I guess a solid choice.
Ooo, you're a pot-stirrer, Goose.
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Pretty sure I saw that statue on Ebay. Wuz gonna place a bid, but got a little too pricey, hey?
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Ohhh Gado Gado was fire. You have good taste it appears. If you don’t mind me asking, did you ever check out Laurelhurst market? They just opened a commissary kitchen by my house and it has possibly the best pastrami I’ve ever tasted outside of New York Jewish delis
I don't think I ever did get to Laurelhust market, though I know it was recommended a few times.
Of course, most of my days in the city were COVID, so some of my Portland experiences were limited. Sounds like you've been there longer than I was. Glad you're still enjoying it - I do miss my neighbors, and some of the food. But not the taxes, lol.
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Yes, that article about a crime in a big city is by far the craziest thing in this thread.
Ooo, you're a pot-stirrer, Goose.
The stealing of statues is high on the list of violent crime in our cities.
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Pretty sure I saw that statue on Ebay. Wuz gonna place a bid, but got a little too pricey, hey?
Can’t get too spendy on another lawn ornament.
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I don't think I ever did get to Laurelhust market, though I know it was recommended a few times.
Of course, most of my days in the city were COVID, so some of my Portland experiences were limited. Sounds like you've been there longer than I was. Glad you're still enjoying it - I do miss my neighbors, and some of the food. But not the taxes, lol.
Yeah that’s a common one. Brutal taxes.
Almost as bad as antifa holding me a gun point every night because rocket said so.
Its the city that taught me how to eat seafood so what can I say
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Yeah that’s a common one. Brutal taxes.
Almost as bad as antifa holding me a gun point every night because rocket said so.
Its the city that taught me how to eat seafood so what can I say
Don't get me started on taxes. 9.9% state income tax (all income, even if earned in other states) + I was "fortunate" enough to be a high wage earner, which Multinomah voters decided meant I should pay an additional 1.5% for daycare preschool for all (no kids), oh and another 1% to buy the druggies new tents, I mean burn money in the fire pit for homeless. It should be illegal to put tax measures on the ballot when only 5% will pay said tax. I basically got a 7% raise moving back to CO.
But hey. No tax on antifa guns, or beer or at Gado gado :)
And Seattle has better seafood.
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Don't get me started on taxes. 9.9% state income tax (all income, even if earned in other states) + I was "fortunate" enough to be a high wage earner, which Multinomah voters decided meant I should pay an additional 1.5% for daycare preschool for all (no kids), oh and another 1% to buy the druggies new tents, I mean burn money in the fire pit for homeless. It should be illegal to put tax measures on the ballot when only 5% will pay said tax. I basically got a 7% raise moving back to CO.
But hey. No tax on antifa guns, or beer or at Gado gado :)
And Seattle has better seafood.
Nothing beats the seafood straight out of the water from Seattle. You got that right. Have spent wayyyyy too much money there on Oysters and clams.
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oh and another 1% to buy the druggies new tents
Pass a new law to "solve the problem" and spend all the time and money hiring consultants and arguing about whether you are going to push them all in the river or repurpose an old prison that is nowhere near anything on the peninsula. Meanwhile the money you allocated has all dried up for expensive administrative staff and someone else gets elected in the meantime.
Did I get it right?
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Haha, I moved away before waiting to see how the money would be wasted. Though they did send me post cards last year telling me I needed to file for 2021 (my last full year there) and I wouldn't owe any fees because they didn't know how to collect the taxes initially.
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Haha, I moved away before waiting to see how the money would be wasted. Though they did send me post cards last year telling me I needed to file for 2021 (my last full year there) and I wouldn't owe any fees because they didn't know how to collect the taxes initially.
I always chuckle at the State DORs and their flailing when it comes to certain tax situations. The last 4 years I lived in Chicago, I was working for my company in Wisconsin. Now WI obviously has a reciprocity agreement, so I never filed in Wisconsin, outside of a few unique K1-type situations that had a separate return. The year I moved, I filed both as I spent partial time living in each. Well Wisconsin naturally messed up my return, so I spent a few months going back and forth getting them paperwork, etc... About a month after that wrapped up, surprise, I get a bill from the Wisconsin DOR demanding back taxes for the previous 4 years, with all sorts of great penalties and fines. I immediately sent my full Illinois returns and documentation, and they still tried to go back and forth half-heartedly for 1-2 rounds of communication/documentation before obviously clearing it. I'm sure they hoped I would panic and just pay
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Just before the start of Black History Month, a Jackie Robinson statue in Wichita was sawed off at the ankles and stolen.
https://apnews.com/article/jackie-robinson-baseball-statue-stolen-beea370b17079ad30092affe6aaea3c1
Coincidence, correlation but no causation. Stolen to sell the bronze. One man arrested, more arrests to follow. Turns out had nothing to do with it.
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Coincidence, correlation but no causation. Stolen to sell the bronze. One man arrested, more arrests to follow. Turns out had nothing to do with it.
How much did that thing weigh? Just a guess... about 1000 lbs. (I have no clue, just illustrating a point). Current bronze price is around 16 cents per ounce. or 2.56 /lb
So uhhhh like $2500 for it if you can melt it down and sell it off to someone who isn't asking questions... But you KNOW that if they're not asking questions, they're paying a lot less for it.
What a dumb plan
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How much did that thing weigh? Just a guess... about 1000 lbs. (I have no clue, just illustrating a point). Current bronze price is around 16 cents per ounce. or 2.56 /lb
So uhhhh like $2500 for it if you can melt it down and sell it off to someone who isn't asking questions... But you KNOW that if they're not asking questions, they're paying a lot less for it.
What a dumb plan
Most crooks are less than masterminds.
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They should make a movie about this. So many angles: the "mastermind" crooks, the outraged SJWs, the distraught baseball fans, the politicians, the police investigation...