1. MU was definitely in the trading 3 for 2 zone.
2. Stevie= disruptor. So vital on defense. Would like his lay ups to fall. Taking the right shots.
3. Oso good around the basket.
4. A whole lot of really good defensive possessions for 25 seconds that ended up with a made contested 3.
5. Also good enough to turn over Nova often enough to affect the game.
6. The bench played adequately. Zaide and Ben both had solid runs. Other than making 3's, Ben played well.
7.TKo attacking when the 3 isn't falling. As well as attacking with the pass. That is what has been missing. Onions.
8.The stars showed up and showed out. Even without the 3 ball falling.
9. Had to have it. Got it.
Hard to believe Marquette won this game.
According to the Willie-Meter in the game thread, I thought they were losing.
I give the game thread 4.5 🫏 out of 5
Regarding #2, clearly he needs to slam them home. Didn't know he had hops like that.
10. Jason Bennetti is our good luck announcer.
Big and must-needed win.
Big 3 really showed up today:
TKo: 21/5/11
Oso: 18/7/5
Cam ( ;)): 22/6/4
Stevie is pretty special defensively. The anticipation and instincts are fantastic.
Jolp was solid but needs to nail those wide open 3's.
Some positive contributions from the bench, especially Zaide's shots from deep. Ben needs to find his shot again but he also had some good moments. Hopefully the minutes for Zaide and Tre will pay dividends down the road once Chase is back.
Very thankful not to have to deal with Scoop after a 3rd loss in a row.
Have a good week of practice and let's get one on the road.
Thought this was our best game since Maui. Nova hit a ton of incredibly hard distance shots and we still ran away with it at the end.
Get that offensive effort the rest of the year and we'll be fine.
Only three turnovers is crazy
Mitchell is crazy on defense and hustle. His deflection today were unreal.
Nice game by Kolek. Hope that made three gets him back on track. It's what Gold needs to see.
MU so much better when Oso gets involved on offense.
Thing noticed is that Shaka hardly subbed in second half. Gold and Norman a few minutes and I don't think Lowery played at all. Am I right?
Points in the paint:
MUBB 60 Nova 18.
Entering the game MUBB was averaging 37 points in the paint per game.
24 assists
3 turnovers
Sheesh.
Quote from: nyg on January 15, 2024, 03:41:17 PM
Only three turnovers is crazy
Mitchell is crazy on defense and hustle. His deflection today were unreal.
Nice game by Kolek. Hope that made three gets him back on track. It's what Gold needs to see.
MU so much better when Oso gets involved on offense.
Thing noticed is that Shaka hardly subbed in second half. Gold and Norman a few minutes and I don't think Lowery played at all. Am I right?
No. All three played. Fewer minutes.
We really played a great game, one of our best this season.
Woulda been a blowout if Nova wasn't ridiculous from 3.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 15, 2024, 03:37:51 PM
Big and must-needed win.
Big 3 really showed up today:
TKo: 21/5/11
Oso: 18/7/5
Cam ( ;)): 22/6/4
Stevie is pretty special defensively. The anticipation and instincts are fantastic.
Jolp was solid but needs to nail those wide open 3's.
Some positive contributions from the bench, especially Zaide's shots from deep. Ben needs to find his shot again but he also had some good moments. Hopefully the minutes for Zaide and Lowery will pay dividends down the road once Chase is back.
Very thankful not to have to deal with Scoop after a 3rd loss in a row.
Great points ... especially the last one! Some Scoopers were acting like the season was already over.
Quote from: tower912 on January 15, 2024, 03:42:57 PM
No. All three played. Fewer minutes.
But really minimal, right? Like two minutes each.
Maybe I was just watching Mitchell all the time.......
Gold not quite as minimal. Tre committed a silly foul. Zaide was in long enough to miss a 3.
Sean is obviously a loss from a depth, energy and defensive perspective. Feel horrible for him on a personal level. We're still a better team with him but perhaps the one positive is that the ball is going to be in Tyler's hands more. Today was a good start and we're going to need a lot more of that.
Great win. IMO, biggest shots were the late 3s from Stevie and TK and the 2 from Lowery in the first half. Hoping ZL can continue to expand his role and play well on the road. St. John's will be a huge test.
Great win. Much needed. Would have been happy with a one point win. To win this way will help the team with their confidence. The big three were great today. Loved seeing Kolek finally hit a three. Will be good for him going forward.
Zaide is smooth. Looking forward to his development. Having an extra 6'5" athlete with experience come March is never a bad thing even with Ross back hopefully. Those threes were huge to stem the Villanova three tide.
Love that Shaka has never lost to Villanova at MU.
Now let's get a nice road win in New York.
Also, wish Raft and Benetti could do all of our games.
Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 03:43:29 PM
We really played a great game, one of our best this season.
Woulda been a blowout if Nova wasn't ridiculous from 3.
Great points ... especially the last one! Some Scoopers were acting like the season was already over.
Not just Nova, a lot of teams just hit 3s they should not against us.
Nova is a good matchup for us. They have no rim protectors so kolek and kam were more effective on their drives.
Nova switching all 5 positions let Oso dominate, either through missed rotations or by favorable match-ups.
Quote from: Mu92 on January 15, 2024, 04:09:00 PM
Nova is a good matchup for us. They have no rim protectors so kolek and kam were more effective on their drives.
They also play way too aggressive and far away from the basket against a team like Marquette.
Watch some film and pack it in Neptune
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 15, 2024, 04:08:28 PM
Not just Nova, a lot of teams just hit 3s they should not against us.
I would be curious what the data is around that. We're biased as fans so that's absolutely how it feels but I'm honestly curious if our opponents are hitting contested 3s at a much higher rate than would be expected.
I don't know about the stat you're requesting, VBMG, but Nova came in shooting 33% from 3. Armstrong was at 26% and Moore 28%. Nova hit some tough 3s today but even if we didn't cover them at all, they hit way more than they usually do.
Shaka's post-game hit with Raft was interesting. Essentially said the team needs to understand that they're really good AND still need to play with a level of desperation at all times. For those who didn't see it he certainly wasn't inferring the team hasn't been playing hard but you did get the feeling they didn't expect to get punched in the mouth by Butler and Seton Hall.
Hopefully today flips a switch and they get some of that swag back.
Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 04:15:59 PM
I don't know about the stat you're requesting, VBMG, but Nova came in shooting 33% from 3. Armstrong was at 26% and Moore 28%. Nova hit some tough 3s today but even if we didn't cover them at all, they hit way more than they usually do.
100%. Sometimes that's just going to happen at this level. And sometimes guys who don't do much are going to go off. It does feel it happens more against us but that could be completely biased-fan nonsense, which I'm absolutely guilty of. Really wondering if there's something to it this season.
The bench played more than adequately- shout out to both Zaide and Tre - they played some man minutes today in a tough BE battle.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 15, 2024, 04:17:56 PM
Shaka's post-game hit with Raft was interesting. Essentially said the team needs to understand that they're really good AND still need to play with a level of desperation at all times. For those who didn't see it he certainly wasn't inferring the team hasn't been playing hard but you did get the feeling they didn't expect to get punched in the mouth by Butler and Seton Hall.
Hopefully today flips a switch and they get some of that swag back.
Shaka is correct.
This team got spoiled last year by never having that "stretch". The early season losses were all close where you could point to a thing or two bouncing your way, you win those games.
This year, they've been thoroughly beaten and embarrassed in a few games. It's important for them to remember how good they can be and have shown this year. Time to start playing like it consistently
Quote from: forgetful on January 15, 2024, 03:32:19 PM
Regarding #2, clearly he needs to slam them home. Didn't know he had hops like that.
Loved his jam!
When Kolek made his first two free throws, I was hoping that seeing the ball go in from more than layup distance might make the basket look a little bigger for him ... and he ended up swishing his final 3 attempt after several ugly scuds. Totally agree with Scoopers who re the benefit of him having the ball almost all the time again.
As for individual baskets, Zaide's two 3s were huge, huge, huge. We were down 6 and the game could have gotten away a little bit. Kid's got a ton of potential.
Stevie - what a great defensive player. He's the kind of player every coach wants on his team and every teammate loves. Maybe there are some games he can't play as much because you need an offensive lift, but he is such a tremendous team player. With the injuries, he's getting more minutes now, so it was nice to see him have some offensive success, too.
Got some good minutes from Gold, despite his shot looking way off. Great to do other things to help the team win when the shot's not going.
As for Nova ... I was surprised about how easily we got to the hoop against them. They had won 5 of 6 and were playing some good basketball. I'll bet Neptune is furious at his team for their poor defensive intensity and positioning. Still, Marquette had to take advantage of it ... and our guys did!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2024, 04:26:19 PM
Shaka is correct.
This team got spoiled last year by never having that "stretch". The early season losses were all close where you could point to a thing or two bouncing your way, you win those games.
This year, they've been thoroughly beaten and embarrassed in a few games. It's important for them to remember how good they can be and have shown this year. Time to start playing like it consistently
Sure, but when you're broke as a joke it'll happen to even the best teams.
Lost the 3pt makes battle to Providence -7, Creighton -3, SH -4, butler -5, Nova -7.
So that's 21, 9, 12, 15, 21 points to make up in Big East play, easy to figure out that that's an uphill battle in an tough conference even without help from the computers.
That's 5 of the 6 games, beat Georgetown going away.
They beat Creighton with offensive boards, they beat Nova with great spacing, ball movement and domination in the paint, winning the turnover battle.
The narrative is win any way, and this team has to find a way to win games like it did last season- with Tyler running the show and incredible spacing and ball movement that leads to easy buckets.
Until it finds a way to win the made 3s battles by making some shots, then things will really open up...
Hopefully in February and then even moreso in March.
When that three went in for Tyler, you could see the relief and happiness on his face and in his body. That was huge, and I think it will only add to the momentum he got from this game. He was bullied a lot and kept his head almost the entire game, which is huge. He was engaged, he was supportive, he was assertive and committed with his passes and on his drives. Was a fun game to watch.
Nice post 82-
For Stevie- it seems like he actually gets a good burst and nice first step to the hoop, but he seems to have very little "touch" around the basket offensively.
Wish he would hang out with Kam a little more in the layup line and try to mimic his finishes- he just needs to slow his hands down in the final moment and let the ball go up softer when he's around the rim and it'll change his abilities offensively imo.
Thanks DrV.
I'm just glad Shaka and the guys decided to show up for the game despite the season being hopelessly lost.
Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 05:09:19 PM
Thanks DrV.
I'm just glad Shaka and the guys decided to show up for the game despite the season being hopelessly lost.
Guess mine is not the first heart broken
My eyes are not the first to cry
I'm not the first to know
There's just no getting over you
I know I'm just a fool who's willing
To sit around and wait for you
But baby, can't you see there's nothing else for me to do?
I'm hopelessly devoted to you!
-MUScoop to MUbb
1. Props to Shaka for calling the opening set play to get Oso a lob. Getting Oso involved early really opened things up.
2. On several of Kam's and Tyler's layups, I noticed help defenders unwilling to leave Oso. That left an uncontested layup at the rim.
3. Villanova is a good matchup for us. Very little size to clog the middle or challenge at the rim.
4. I hate to say this, but did the injuries to Chase and Sean make us better? By being forced to play the starters more, Marquette is at its best more often, at least on offense.
5. The defense definitely missed Chase and Sean today. Today felt a lot like last season: 40 minutes of offense, 10 minutes of defense down the stretch.
6. Zaide and Tre both made some plays today. They looked less tentative than they were earlier in the season.
7. This team has to have a hot shooting night from 3 eventually. Don't they?
8. Nice win, not just for confidence but also for our metrics and resumé.
Shooter
I feel very badly that Sean got hurt and look forward to watching him run the offense next season, but I think TK has to run the show with the makeup of the current roster. I definitely believe that Kolek playing off the ball as much as he has over the past month hurt the offense. My feelings on this are simple, TK and Oso are two very unique type of players, and they need to be involved early and often to make this offense click.
Give me 30+ minutes of TK running the show and I'll take my chances on them running high octane offense. Him standing around and directing traffic or standing in the corner seemed like playing four on five to me.
Glad to hear Shaka tell the guys to keep driving it in the huddle - it was working all day.
Quote from: nyg on January 15, 2024, 03:41:17 PM
Only three turnovers is crazy
Mitchell is crazy on defense and hustle. His deflection today were unreal.
Nice game by Kolek. Hope that made three gets him back on track. It's what Gold needs to see.
MU so much better when Oso gets involved on offense.
Thing noticed is that Shaka hardly subbed in second half. Gold and Norman a few minutes and I don't think Lowery played at all. Am I right?
Shaka gave props to Norman and Lowery on the post game w/Homer & TSmith
Quote from: DoctorV on January 15, 2024, 04:45:30 PM
Sure, but when you're broke as a joke it'll happen to even the best teams.
Lost the 3pt makes battle to Providence -7, Creighton -3, SH -4, butler -5, Nova -7.
So that's 21, 9, 12, 15, 21 points to make up in Big East play, easy to figure out that that's an uphill battle in an tough conference even without help from the computers.
That's 5 of the 6 games, beat Georgetown going away.
They beat Creighton with offensive boards, they beat Nova with great spacing, ball movement and domination in the paint, winning the turnover battle.
The narrative is win any way, and this team has to find a way to win games like it did last season- with Tyler running the show and incredible spacing and ball movement that leads to easy buckets.
Until it finds a way to win the made 3s battles by making some shots, then things will really open up...
Hopefully in February and then even moreso in March.
In addition to getting our recent, bad 3 point shooting up to at least 30%, more like 35%, I noticed that defending against the three
in the second half, our guys were on Nova in a microsecond when Nova wanted to shoot 3s. They still made 5 (including the futile one in the closing seconds...
really, Neptune?), but I think could have duplicated their first half performance without MU getting right in their faces. It would be a good guess that Shaka got on them at halftime. Nova bailed out and passed the ball in a number of times with our quick defense on the three point line.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on January 15, 2024, 03:32:59 PM
10. Jason Bennetti is our good luck announcer.
Let me know when he properly pronounces Kolek, not Koh-lack. Not that difficult of a name.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 15, 2024, 06:07:41 PM
Let me know when he properly pronounces Kolek, not Koh-lack. Not that difficult of a name.
Jason's a big Telly Savalas fan.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 15, 2024, 06:06:00 PM
In addition to getting our recent, bad 3 point shooting up to at least 30%, more like 35%, I noticed that defending against the three in the second half, our guys were on Nova in a microsecond when Nova wanted to shoot 3s. They still made 5 (including the futile one in the closing seconds...really, Neptune?), but I think could have duplicated their first half performance without MU getting right in their faces. It would be a good guess that Shaka got on them at halftime. Nova bailed out and passed the ball in a number of times with our quick defense on the three point line.
Neptune was pretty annoyed when the officials were not calling the intentional fouls with what 20 seconds left and down 13 points.
My 4-year-old grandson was there today - his first Marquette game! My son just decided this morning to drive up from Chicago; got tix at Stubhub.
So I give Jack all credit for the big win!!
Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 07:26:00 PM
My 4-year-old grandson was there today - his first Marquette game! My son just decided this morning to drive up from Chicago; got tix at Stubhub.
So I give Jack all credit for the big win!!
Nice! He might've bought mine, especially if he works for aspenbaypartners.
I had to pull out because we decided my little guy is just too young for that cold.
Going to make it up to him for the Xavier game
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 15, 2024, 06:46:42 PM
Neptune was pretty annoyed when the officials were not calling the intentional fouls with what 20 seconds left and down 13 points.
He was the BE coach who pissed off Shaka last year by saying something to him on the sidelines. There was another BE coach who he pissed off also by some remark. I think it was Cooley. Neptune seems like a real jerk. Rather than accepting that Marquette simply wanted to run the clock out, he screwed around by telling his players to keep fouling. He was probably upset about the Marquette crowd booing, although he richly deserved it.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2024, 05:39:21 PM
Shooter
I feel very badly that Sean got hurt and look forward to watching him run the offense next season, but I think TK has to run the show with the makeup of the current roster. I definitely believe that Kolek playing off the ball as much as he has over the past month hurt the offense. My feelings on this are simple, TK and Oso are two very unique type of players, and they need to be involved early and often to make this offense click.
Give me 30+ minutes of TK running the show and I'll take my chances on them running high octane offense. Him standing around and directing traffic or standing in the corner seemed like playing four on five to me.
Goose, when you say you look forward to Sean running the offense next season, do you mean when Sean is subbing in for TK? Or, are you inferring that TK is not returning to MU next season? (I would be bummed if TK left MU for another program. I don't see TK leaving MU for the GLeague or Euro unless he's had enough of college ball after this season.)
Quote from: Viper on January 15, 2024, 08:29:19 PM
Goose, when you say you look forward to Sean running the offense next season, do you mean when Sean is subbing in for TK? Or, are you inferring that TK is not returning to MU next season? (I would be bummed if TK left MU for another program. I don't see TK leaving MU for the GLeague or Euro unless he's had enough of college ball after this season.)
No, he'll be in the NBA
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2024, 08:35:14 PM
No, he'll be in the NBA
I'm not expecting Kolek back. Going pro somewhere. Hope I'm wrong.
Honest question-Would Sean be fully recovered by late summer to get ready for the '24-'25 season? Those damn ACLs (assuming that's what it is-have not seen a formal statement) seem to take so long to heal, or whatever the correct term is. Nova's Moore is an example of what I fear will be Sean's recovery time. So....IF Sean is not the guy, who is?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 15, 2024, 08:44:10 PM
I'm not expecting Kolek back. Going pro somewhere. Hope I'm wrong.
Honest question-Would Sean be fully recovered by late summer to get ready for the '24-'25 season? Those damn ACLs (assuming that's what it is-have not seen a formal statement) seem to take so long to heal, or whatever the correct term is. So....IF Sean is not the guy, who is?
Shaka will have to go into the portal
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 15, 2024, 08:23:15 PM
He was the BE coach who pissed off Shaka last year by saying something to him on the sidelines. There was another BE coach who he pissed off also by some remark. I think it was Cooley. Neptune seems like a real jerk. Rather than accepting that Marquette simply wanted to run the clock out, he screwed around by telling his players to keep fouling. He was probably upset about the Marquette crowd booing, although he richly deserved it.
They showed Shaka and Neptune hugging and chatting before the game, and then they hugged in the handshake line. They seem like two guys that are very close to each other and have a mutual respect for each other.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 15, 2024, 08:50:18 PM
They showed Shaka and Neptune hugging and chatting before the game, and then they hugged in the handshake line. They seem like two guys that are very close to each other and have a mutual respect for each other.
I was referring to last season. Agree that after the game, they seemed just as you said.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 15, 2024, 08:44:10 PM
I'm not expecting Kolek back. Going pro somewhere. Hope I'm wrong.
Honest question-Would Sean be fully recovered by late summer to get ready for the '24-'25 season? Those damn ACLs (assuming that's what it is-have not seen a formal statement) seem to take so long to heal, or whatever the correct term is. Nova's Moore is an example of what I fear will be Sean's recovery time. So....IF Sean is not the guy, who is?
I'm expecting Sean to redshirt next and be a 5 year player.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 15, 2024, 08:35:14 PM
No, he'll be in the NBA
i really like TK, but I'll take that bet. The NBA isn't looking for a guard that can't shoot, or go with the right. TK, check in, you got Holiday. TK, check in and take Hardin. TK, match up with Dame. TK in the GLeague checking JD Davison? Sure.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 15, 2024, 08:23:15 PM
He was the BE coach who pissed off Shaka last year by saying something to him on the sidelines. There was another BE coach who he pissed off also by some remark. I think it was Cooley. Neptune seems like a real jerk. Rather than accepting that Marquette simply wanted to run the clock out, he screwed around by telling his players to keep fouling. He was probably upset about the Marquette crowd booing, although he richly deserved it.
Yes....and when Bamba fouled out with Nova down 14 points with under 30 seconds left.....he called his entire team off the foul line and motioned them all the way over to their bench for a pseudo free timeout. Unreal.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 15, 2024, 08:56:05 PM
I'm expecting Sean to redshirt next and be a 5 year player.
Interesting. If so, I think Rico's comment about needing to go the portal route rings true, even though it is not Shaka's preferred way.
There's a chance Kolek comes back, but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 15, 2024, 09:00:11 PM
Interesting. If so, I think Rico's comment about needing to go the portal route rings true, even though it is not Shaka's preferred way.
There's a chance Kolek comes back, but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Just a guess. Selfishly I'd like Sean to be a part of the program for 3 more years. I'm sure he'll be trying to get back to action asap though. I agree though that Shaka will look to the portal if Kolek leaves regardless of what happens with Sean. Kam and Stevie will only have one more year. Tre can play any of the three guard spots. Would be nice to add a proven guy with multiple years left. Personally, not really interested in a guy with only one year left.
Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 07:26:00 PM
My 4-year-old grandson was there today - his first Marquette game! My son just decided this morning to drive up from Chicago; got tix at Stubhub.
So I give Jack all credit for the big win!!
Thanks to Jack! I owe him an apple juice next time you guys make it to a game!
Quote from: Viper on January 15, 2024, 08:56:21 PM
i really like TK, but I'll take that bet. The NBA isn't looking for a guard that can't shoot, or go with the right. TK, check in, you got Holiday. TK, check in and take Hardin. TK, match up with Dame. TK in the GLeague checking JD Davison? Sure.
You better let NBA people know your scouting report
10. Villanova has yet to receive the memo on how to defend us.
Wide open lane for most of the game. We play beautiful offensive basketball when we are guarded like that.
I think it came down to OSO actually playing like OSO. He was absolutely awful against Seton hall with his layups and push shots from 2 ft out. He started hitting them again vs Nova.
Quote from: Viper on January 15, 2024, 08:56:21 PM
i really like TK, but I'll take that bet. The NBA isn't looking for a guard that can't shoot, or go with the right. TK, check in, you got Holiday. TK, check in and take Hardin. TK, match up with Dame. TK in the GLeague checking JD Davison? Sure.
Or:
TK, we are playing Toronto-go guard Malachi Flynn
TK we are playing the Clippers-go guard Bones Hyland
Tyler matches up pretty well with many of the backup PGs. Tyler can make a team IMO. He did shoot 40% from 3 last year, and if you take away his 2 game slide, he's right there this year as well.
Quote from: Viper on January 15, 2024, 08:56:21 PM
i really like TK, but I'll take that bet. The NBA isn't looking for a guard that can't shoot, or go with the right. TK, check in, you got Holiday. TK, check in and take Hardin. TK, match up with Dame. TK in the GLeague checking JD Davison? Sure.
Gillespie and Zegarowski were second-round draft picks, and Kolek is as good as they were, especially if he gets his 3P% back up to where it was last season. Plenty have compared Kolek to another 2nd-round talent - Brunson.
We'll see what story Kolek authors for himself. A lot of games left in this season.
Kolek is consistently showing up in mock drafts, even sneaking into the late 1st round in a few.
Plus, 2024 is looking like a historically bad draft. Like 2013 minus Giannis bad. 2025 will be a much stronger draft.
Plus, we see players like TJ McConnell, Payton Pritchard, and Malachi Flynn in the NBA. I think Tyler is good enough to be that kind of player. A really solid #2 PG with elite passing skills.
PS- I hope Shaka uses the portal to add a one year starting PG to replace Kolek. Too much uncertainty with Sean due to the knee injury. Then bring in one of the elite 2025 PGs being targeted (Lewis or James).
Unless TK can hit a big score via NIL (over $750k) next year, I see no way that he is back playing college basketball next season. IMO, the biggest reason is his age, I believe he will be 23 in March. Aside from being old for NBA rookie, very old to be in college. To be honest, I would be disappointed if he did not chase NBA dreams after this year.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 16, 2024, 06:38:29 AM
You better let NBA people know your scouting report
I love ya man. I agree with you that Shaka can't beat the BIG. But TK one of the top 300 players in the world? Forgetaboutit.
Kolek is a lot closer to being a first round pick next June than going undrafted or returning to school. Its a really weak draft class for underclassmen and true PG play in the NBA is lacking. A lot of teams could use a backup PG who can actually run an offense for 10-15 mins a night, and Kolek can do that especially with the spacing in the NBA.
If Kolek can regain his shooting form from last season (.398) and the first 13 games of this season (.435) - and/or if he can demonstrate that he's a good shooter during pre-draft workouts - I have no doubt numerous NBA teams would be interested.
There probably would be numerous teams interested even if he doesn't shoot quite that well because of his court vision and passing ability ... but if he does, a whole lot of NBA teams would see him as being very draftable.
Tyler will be on an NBA roster next season.
He operates the PNR at a high level. Is an adequate on ball defender who plays the passing lanes well. And there's a solid enough foundation with his jumper.
Right. NBA teams know guys aren't necessarily finished products. Look at how Jalen Brunson has improved as a three point shooter since coming into the league.
Brooke Lopez is now a 3 pt shooter.
Quote from: tower912 on January 16, 2024, 10:17:48 AM
Brooke Lopez is now a 3 pt shooter.
And his identical twin brother is not.
It's about circumstance, coaching and role.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIgsi4JH5JE
Shaka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-oJihPvEkk
Stevie and Zaide. Shaka sending those two out is awesome.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 15, 2024, 03:37:51 PM
Hopefully the minutes for Zaide and Lowery will pay dividends down the road once Chase is back.
Pipe dream. Shaka will always have to split minutes between Zaide and Lowery. Guessing he'll favor the one with the hot hand. ;D
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 16, 2024, 10:41:08 AM
Pipe dream. Shaka will always have to split minutes between Zaide and Lowery. Guessing he'll favor the one with the hot hand. ;D
Damn it.
MU ran with the starters for the last 7-8 minutes of the game. I'm guessing that will not be changing.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 16, 2024, 10:06:24 AM
Tyler will be on an NBA roster next season.
He operates the PNR at a high level. Is an adequate on ball defender who plays the passing lanes well. And there's a solid enough foundation with his jumper.
we'll agree to disagree. TK will not be on an nba roster next season, imo. I think he's a really good player, just not nba good...and will be happy for him if I'm proven wrong.
Quote from: Viper on January 17, 2024, 08:34:21 PM
we'll agree to disagree. TK will not be on an nba roster next season, imo. I think he's a really good player, just not nba good.
He won't be at Marquette
Quote from: Viper on January 17, 2024, 08:34:21 PM
we'll agree to disagree. TK will not be on an nba roster next season, imo. I think he's a really good player, just not nba good...and will be happy for him if I'm proven wrong.
Curious: Did you think Sam would be on an NBA roster?
Did you think Juan would ever be on an NBA roster, even for a minute?
There are 30 NBA teams. All it takes is for one or two to think, "Hmm, this guy might be able to help us," and then for that player to take advantage of his opportunity.
Just as I thought Sam would have an NBA career, I think Kolek will. I'll fully admit that I didn't think Juan would, or Dwight Buycks for that matter.
Quote from: MU82 on January 17, 2024, 09:41:45 PM
Curious: Did you think Sam would be on an NBA roster?
Did you think Juan would ever be on an NBA roster, even for a minute?
There are 30 NBA teams. All it takes is for one or two to think, "Hmm, this guy might be able to help us," and then for that player to take advantage of his opportunity.
Just as I thought Sam would have an NBA career, I think Kolek will. I'll fully admit that I didn't think Juan would, or Dwight Buycks for that matter.
Agree.
TK has at least one highly valued NBA skill: he can run an effective two-man game with a team's superstar.
He'll get a shot somewhere; if it's a good fit, he could have a very nice NBA career.
Quote from: MU82 on January 17, 2024, 09:41:45 PM
Curious: Did you think Sam would be on an NBA roster?
Did you think Juan would ever be on an NBA roster, even for a minute?
There are 30 NBA teams. All it takes is for one or two to think, "Hmm, this guy might be able to help us," and then for that player to take advantage of his opportunity.
Just as I thought Sam would have an NBA career, I think Kolek will. I'll fully admit that I didn't think Juan would, or Dwight Buycks for that matter.
no on Sam. No on Juan. Yes on Jamal Cain. At 33%, I'm on fire!... No on Kolek.
btw, if MU has two nba players in the starting 5 as most here feel we do, shouldn't MU be better? (asking for a Badger fan)
MU would be better if they were shooting better from 3.
Quote from: Viper on January 18, 2024, 03:08:52 PM
no on Sam. No on Juan. Yes on Jamal Cain. At 33%, I'm on fire!... No on Kolek.
btw, if MU has two nba players in the starting 5 as most here feel we do, shouldn't MU be better? (asking for a Badger fan)
They're 12-5. In the top 20 in the polls and the metrics.
You're wrong on Kolek
Quote from: barfolomew on January 18, 2024, 11:53:56 AM
Agree.
TK has at least one highly valued NBA skill: he can run an effective two-man game with a team's superstar.
He'll get a shot somewhere; if it's a good fit, he could have a very nice NBA career.
Plus he can be disruptive on D
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 17, 2024, 08:36:01 PM
He won't be at Marquette
Correct if he wants to make $$$ outside of CBB his time is now, he will be too old come next year
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 18, 2024, 03:25:50 PM
They're 12-5. In the top 20 in the polls and the metrics.
You're wrong on Kolek
Uncle Rico rings the bell.