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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: MU82 on January 04, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
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A 6th-grader is dead and at least 4 other students are wounded at a school shooting.
If only they all had been packing.
Good thing that the 17-year-old murderer could easily get a gun. Freedom!
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Breakin' News...
Shooter wuz fookin' nutz, aina?
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A 6th-grader is dead and at least 4 other students are wounded at a school shooting.
If only they all had been packing.
Good thing that the 17-year-old murderer could easily get a gun. Freedom!
those damn guns again? the minute ya turn around, they just start heading for the gun free zones and start shooting
any studies on early hormone therapy and predilection to violence
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those damn guns again? the minute ya turn around, they just start heading for the gun free zones and start shooting
any studies on early hormone therapy and predilection to violence
9 out of 10
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9 out of 10
you are so predictable, but a little slow today-2 minutes?
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you are so predictable, but a little slow today-2 minutes?
8.5 out of 10
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8.5 out of 10
Lol.
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those damn guns again? the minute ya turn around, they just start heading for the gun free zones and start shooting
any studies on early hormone therapy and predilection to violence
I dunno man maybe we should do earlier intervention about bullying.
Unless maybe they wanted to shave their head to support someone.
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there is some credibility to the concern that hormone therapy and antidepressants might have something to do with these incidents.
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I dunno man maybe we should do earlier intervention about bullying.
Unless maybe they wanted to shave their head to support someone.
yeah bwhahahahahaha
you had to burn some calories to come with that knee slapper
reeko still tallying up his score-i'll help him out here -10/10
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those damn guns again? the minute ya turn around, they just start heading for the gun free zones and start shooting
any studies on early hormone therapy and predilection to violence
there is some credibility to the concern that hormone therapy and antidepressants might have something to do with these incidents.
No there isn't.
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Ban lighters
https://apnews.com/article/tyreek-hill-house-fire-24bd371848835aa4f63b4f3ed67804c9
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there is some credibility to the concern that hormone therapy and antidepressants might have something to do with these incidents.
Source?
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Ban guitars
https://www.keyc.com/2024/01/03/charges-filed-against-patient-accused-killing-another-patient/?outputType=amp
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there is some credibility to the concern that hormone therapy and antidepressants might have something to do with these incidents.
Stop. Honestly stop getting your news from the same damn source and do some research. This had nothing to do with “hormone therapy.”
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Bullied relentlessly.
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Bullied relentlessly.
Yep. The only things we know for sure about him is that he was bullied constantly and that he loved guns.
But people who desperately need bogeymen will parrot unproven speculation and outright lies.
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Yep. The only things we know for sure about him is that he was bullied constantly and that he loved guns.
#FakeNews #Lies
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Folks, nothing is changing. Just accept children being statistics
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Ban guitars
https://www.keyc.com/2024/01/03/charges-filed-against-patient-accused-killing-another-patient/?outputType=amp
Ban dis guy
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Folks, nothing is changing. Just accept children being statistics
Some folks: Guns aren't the problem, mental health is!
Other folks: Okay so fund more mental health initiatives.
Some folks: WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR CARE BEAR PROGRAMS WE ARE RUNNING A SEVERAL TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET DEFICIT
Other folks: Then just say you don't care about people.
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Bullied relentlessly. Snapped when he saw his younger sister get bullied.
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A human turd has been flushed.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/05/1223160632/nra-wayne-lapierre-steps-down-resigns
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A human turd has been flushed.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/05/1223160632/nra-wayne-lapierre-steps-down-resigns
Just another criminal with lots of guns. More blood on his hands than most criminals have, though.
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Ban guitars
https://www.keyc.com/2024/01/03/charges-filed-against-patient-accused-killing-another-patient/?outputType=amp
Thoughts and prayers
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Who could ever forget the way d-bag Stephen Paddock killed dozens of people with his guitar in Las Vegas or racist Dylann Roof killed 9 Black churchgoers in Charleston with his lighter.
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those damn guns again? the minute ya turn around, they just start heading for the gun free zones and start shooting
any studies on early hormone therapy and predilection to violence
Wait? What? This is a thing? How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy? I need to see this. Can you share now?
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Wait? What? This is a thing? How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy? I need to see this. Can you share now?
The Gun Violence Archive, which began collecting data on gun violence in the U.S. in 2013 recorded more than 4,400 mass shootings in the last decade, Executive Director Mark Bryant told Reuters via email. Its definition of mass shooting is four or more people shot resulting in injury or death (excluding the perpetrator).
Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/
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Get over it!
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The Gun Violence Archive, which began collecting data on gun violence in the U.S. in 2013 recorded more than 4,400 mass shootings in the last decade, Executive Director Mark Bryant told Reuters via email. Its definition of mass shooting is four or more people shot resulting in injury or death (excluding the perpetrator).
Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N363273/
So what you're saying is that most of these shooters are transgender people. Thanks for confirming roQQet's in-depth research.
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Wait? What? This is a thing? How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy? I need to see this. Can you share now?
That study is coming out after the proof Ivermectin works against COVID. You just have to be patient.
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Maine authorities were warned that Robert Card was highly unstable, but they did nothing - including anything that would have limited Card's access to guns - and 6 weeks later Card killed 18 people at a bowling alley in the worst mass-shooting in state history.
https://apnews.com/article/lewiston-maine-shooting-warning-signs-robert-card-e154aac79b4f9d42a5381c20cd6618dd?user_email=6647dfa7189f748384d7389910f7b584c6fcfc35ae990102964c7e826d4175c7&utm_medium=Morning_Wire&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_campaign=Morning%20Wire%20Official_11%20Jan_2024&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers
LEWISTON, Maine (AP) — Sean Hodgson watched and worried as his best friend of nearly two decades unraveled. His former roommate and fellow U.S. Army reservist’s anger and paranoia were mounting, he had access to guns, and he refused to get help. So Hodgson did the hardest thing of his life: He sent a text about Robert Card to their Army supervisor.
“I believe he’s going to snap and do a mass shooting,” he wrote on Sept. 15.
Six weeks later, Card fatally shot 18 people at a bowling alley and a bar in Lewiston before killing himself. His body was found in a trailer after a two-day search and regionwide lockdown.
“I wasn’t in his head. I don’t know exactly what went on,” Hodgson told The Associated Press last week in an exclusive interview, his first since the Oct. 25 shootings. “But I do know I was right.”
The series of warning signs about Card have been well documented. In May, relatives warned police that Card had grown paranoid, and they expressed concern about his access to guns. In July, Card was hospitalized in a psychiatric unit for two weeks after shoving a fellow reservist and locking himself in a motel room. In August, the Army barred him from handling weapons while on duty and declared him nondeployable.
And in September, Hodgson raised the most glaring red flag, telling authorities to change the passcode to the gate at their Army Reserve training facility and arm themselves if Card showed up.
“Please,” he wrote. “I believe he’s messed up in the head.”
But authorities declined to confront Card — the clearest example of the missed opportunities to intervene and prevent the deadliest shooting in state history. That’s hard to swallow for Hodgson, who’s pushing back against an independent report for law enforcement that described him as “over the top” and “alarmist.”
“I did my job, and I went over and beyond it, and I literally spelled it out for them,” said Hodgson, 43, referred to by only his last name in documents related to the case. “I don’t know how clear I could have gotten.”
Hodgson’s account, taken together with law enforcement documents, videos and other interviews, provides the most comprehensive picture to date of potential missteps leading up to the attack.
In replying to AP’s questions about the investigation and Hodgson’s warning, the Army Reserve said in a statement this week that no one should jump to conclusions until its own investigation and an independent probe by the Army inspector general are finalized.
So these shootings are a "mental health issue," right? OK ... then effen do something when a person's mental health is clearly an issue. Don't shrug and let the mentally ill person have his way with as many guns as he wants.
Or ...
Admit that everybody (including mentally ill people) having unlimited and incredibly easy access to guns is more important than "all lives matter." You can't have it both ways.
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Seems like more and more this is coming back onto failings of law enforcement/authorities. You can’t have a hands off approach to wellness checks on an armed population. Or, maybe you can I guess and just shrug at mass shootings.
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Seems like more and more this is coming back onto failings of law enforcement/authorities. You can’t have a hands off approach to wellness checks on an armed population. Or, maybe you can I guess and just shrug at mass shootings.
As a a Christian society, all we can do is pray and keep statistics
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Seems like more and more this is coming back onto failings of law enforcement/authorities. You can’t have a hands off approach to wellness checks on an armed population. Or, maybe you can I guess and just shrug at mass shootings.
Cops (and courts) want little to do with anything that involves taking away a person’s weapon.
After all, God gave that person the right to bear arms.
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Not just cops and courts. State and national lawmakers, too. Lots of $$$$ coming in from the gun lobby. Plus many of them simply believe that gun rights are more important than human lives.
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You can have sex with a gun just like a human being
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You can have sex with a gun just like a human being
Bang, bang. Shoot, shoot.
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Prayers for the family of the principal who distracted the shooter so others could flee. Respect.
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Wait? What? This is a thing? How many of the mass shooting suspects were in early hormone therapy? I need to see this. Can you share now?
i was asking the same question myself
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i was asking the same question myself
The answer is that it is not statistically material because the vast, vast, vast majority of these shooters are heterosexual males who aren't going through hormone therapy.
The other thing they have in common is extremely easy access to guns. Even if they are mentally ill. Even if they are former felons. Even if they have a history of spousal abuse or child abuse. Even if they have posted I'm-a-gun-lover-and-I'm-planning-to-kill-people manifestos online. No matter what, acquiring as many guns as they want - including those that can shoot dozens of rounds in seconds - is easy peasy.
In polling, even a considerable majority of Republicans favor laws that promote gun safety. Unfortunately, the politicians themselves lack the political will to do so.
Which encourages some ignorant people to wonder aloud if hormone therapy is the real culprit.
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i was asking the same question myself
98% of mass shooters were prescribed Ivermectin according to a recent study I saw
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If they had taken hydroxychloroquine instead, maybe they would not have survived to kill others.
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Would a dental hygienist who cut their hair in the midst of hormone therapy be fired?
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you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with
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you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with
Depends on whether anyone overdoses on the Ivermectin
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Depends on whether anyone overdoses on the Ivermectin
It’s usually a dentist.
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you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with
I’m free at tooth-hurty
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Depends on whether anyone overdoses on the Ivermectin
you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with
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you guys have got to be just a blast to hang out with
I gave your earlier "question" about mass shootings a serious answer, which you've chosen to ignore.
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Uvalde report is out. Not kind to the responding officers. Which is fair. Need to confront the shooter ASAP. Need to set up a command structure to get organized.
Once again, and particularly in regards to the principal in Perry, John 15:13.
No greater love than this: that a person lay down his life for his friends.
The officers in Uvalde did not meet this standard.
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Uvalde report is out. Not kind to the responding officers. Which is fair. Need to confront the shooter ASAP. Need to set up a command structure to get organized.
Once again, and particularly in regards to the principal in Perry, John 15:13.
No greater love than this: that a person lay down his life for his friends.
The officers in Uvalde did not meet this standard.
Per twitter, "Nothing says ban assault rifles like 5 school officers, 8 federal DEA officers, 13 U.S. Marshals, 16 sheriff’s deputies, 25 Uvalde officers, 69 officers of nearby law enforcement, 91 state police officers plus 149 U.S. Border Patrol agents being scared of 1 shooter with an AR-15."
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Who could ever forget the way d-bag Stephen Paddock killed dozens of people with his guitar in Las Vegas or racist Dylann Roof killed 9 Black churchgoers in Charleston with his lighter.
The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?
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The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?
Probably from all the CRT
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The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?
Source?
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Probably from all the CRT
Ban enough books and maybe I won’t need my assault rifle. Til then? Cold dead hands.
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Source?
His imagination
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The shooters usually turn out to angry leftist loons. who knew?
Do you have any facts that aren't alternative facts, Kellyanne?
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The answer is that it is not statistically material because the vast, vast, vast majority of these shooters are heterosexual males who aren't going through hormone therapy.
The other thing they have in common is extremely easy access to guns. Even if they are mentally ill. Even if they are former felons. Even if they have a history of spousal abuse or child abuse. Even if they have posted I'm-a-gun-lover-and-I'm-planning-to-kill-people manifestos online. No matter what, acquiring as many guns as they want - including those that can shoot dozens of rounds in seconds - is easy peasy.
In polling, even a considerable majority of Republicans favor laws that promote gun safety. Unfortunately, the politicians themselves lack the political will to do so.
Which encourages some ignorant people to wonder aloud if hormone therapy is the real culprit.
source(s)??
once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets. how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of
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source(s)??
once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets. how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of
Thanks for the response. About what I expected. I'll resist the urge to have serious dialogue with you again.
Obviously, we need more and more guns in America, the more powerful the better, and it doesn't matter who gets 'em. Because we have to be able to fight off all the transgender antifa members who do 99.9% of these shootings.
Freedom!
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source(s)??
once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets. how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of
What led you to asking about a correlation between hormone therapy and violence? Why didn't you ask about a correlation between any other variable and violence?
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After realizing that these gun massacres happen as often in nearly every other developed country, I’ve concluded there’s nothing that can be done.
I’m turning my attention to all the transgenders who are ruining my daughters’ sports.
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source(s)??
once again, i was just asking, but we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books as MOST of the crime including with guns is being done by recidivists with long long rap sheets. how about trying to keep us safe from known criminals and criminals with guns like people making false statements on their gun forms in order to get these nasty guns you speak of
Was the shooter in Perry one of your recidivists?
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https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/nation-world/fbi-investigating-oregon-transgender-woman-over-racist-antisemitic-social-media-posts-elizabeth-west-arrest-crime
Lots of guns, but it was addressed. At least for now. Need to make sure this wack job doesn’t harm others.
Lots of shootings. Lots avoided - but don’t hear about em much because of… things
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https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/nation-world/fbi-investigating-oregon-transgender-woman-over-racist-antisemitic-social-media-posts-elizabeth-west-arrest-crime
Lots of guns, but it was addressed. At least for now. Need to make sure this wack job doesn’t harm others.
Lots of shootings. Lots avoided - but don’t hear about em much because of… things
Let's hear them.
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https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/nation-world/fbi-investigating-oregon-transgender-woman-over-racist-antisemitic-social-media-posts-elizabeth-west-arrest-crime
Lots of guns, but it was addressed. At least for now. Need to make sure this wack job doesn’t harm others.
Lots of shootings. Lots avoided - but don’t hear about em much because of… things
656 mass shootings in 2023, 0.5% or so of the population identify as transgender.
So that should equate to about 3 of them being done by this population or so in according with standard demographics (this issue doesn’t follow standard demographics but you probably know that).
The actual percentage of mass shootings committed by that population since 2014? 0.128% So it’s occurring four times less frequently than basic demographic averages suggest it should?
It’s such an utterly negligible number compared to the scale of the problem that is occurring, the fixation on it really only points to bigotry or delusion.
Never mind it’s a portion of the population who suffers from bullying and abuse at a far higher rate than the average.
So which is it, you think this portion of the population doesn’t deserve to be treated as equals and are masking that belief in concern trolling about their propensity to commit violence that statistics just simply don’t align with and rely on scattered anecdotal examples? or are you scraping for any alternative answer to a problem that’s glaringly laid out before you? Or both?
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The constant desperate search for a scapegoat, any scapegoat, to explain the problem as something other than the obvious one.
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656 mass shootings in 2023, 0.5% or so of the population identify as transgender.
So that should equate to about 3 of them being done by this population or so in according with standard demographics (this issue doesn’t follow standard demographics but you probably know that).
The actual percentage of mass shootings committed by that population since 2014? 0.128% So it’s occurring four times less frequently than basic demographic averages suggest it should?
It’s such an utterly negligible number compared to the scale of the problem that is occurring, the fixation on it really only points to bigotry or delusion.
Never mind it’s a portion of the population who suffers from bullying and abuse at a far higher rate than the average.
So which is it, you think this portion of the population doesn’t deserve to be treated as equals and are masking that belief in concern trolling about their propensity to commit violence that statistics just simply don’t align with and rely on scattered anecdotal examples? or are you scraping for any alternative answer to a problem that’s glaringly laid out before you? Or both?
You'd think our resident data guy would know things like this.
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You'd think our resident data guy would know things like this.
Gender fluidity no matta.
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You'd think our resident data guy would know things like this.
Their feelings don't care about facts.
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But what about Chicago?
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Thanks for the response. About what I expected. I'll resist the urge to have serious dialogue with you again.
Obviously, we need more and more guns in America, the more powerful the better, and it doesn't matter who gets 'em. Because we have to be able to fight off all the transgender antifa members who do 99.9% of these shootings.
Freedom!
How does anyone have a serious conversation with that drivel? My thing about the transgender was half in jest because there have been a few more as of recent, but the one in Nashville was particularly troubling because they wouldn’t release his/ her manifesto…why not? Maybe we could have learned something from it?
Fact- guns are legal and until they start to enforce the laws on the books, we are going to continue to see more of these tragic occurrences. For some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society
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How does anyone have a serious conversation with that drivel? My thing about the transgender was half in jest because there have been a few more as of recent, but the one in Nashville was particularly troubling because they wouldn’t release his/ her manifesto…why not? Maybe we could have learned something from it?
Fact- guns are legal and until they start to enforce the laws on the books, we are going to continue to see more of these tragic occurrences. For some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society
How would that have protected people from the shooter in Perry?
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How does anyone have a serious conversation with that drivel? My thing about the transgender was half in jest because there have been a few more as of recent, but the one in Nashville was particularly troubling because they wouldn’t release his/ her manifesto…why not? Maybe we could have learned something from it?
Fact- guns are legal and until they start to enforce the laws on the books, we are going to continue to see more of these tragic occurrences. For some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society
They didn’t release the Louisville shooter’s manifesto either. What’s the conspiracy behind that one?
Manifestos are usually released years later if at all, and heavily redacted.
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How many shooters have used Columbine and Christchurch as inspiration due to the extensive details behind their manifestos and actions?
Besides, you seem content to Make up your own reasoning behind it anyway to fit your narrative. What’s the big deal
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for some reason, this country has become way to lax on filling our prisons back up with bad people who cannot function safely within our society
Agree. It's sad that your cult leader is vowing to pardon hundreds of violent insurrectionists, seditionists, terrorists and other bad people who tried to overthrow the government, wounding well over 100 police officers in the process.
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They didn’t release the Louisville shooter’s manifesto either. What’s the conspiracy behind that one?
Manifestos are usually released years later if at all, and heavily redacted.
Part of the problem (not the main problem, of course) IMO, is calling these writings manifestos, and then sensationalizing these writings. Let the professionals (behavioralists, psychiatrists, etc) dissect them. Genpop doesn't need to be waiting with baited breath to see these. I feel giving these writings that much power may push some people to write these and then conduct such heinous acts. Granted, this is way down on the list (more powerful red flag laws, better enforcement etc).
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we could start by enforcing the laws we have on the books
Or we could stop changing laws to protect our rich friends.
https://www.levernews.com/will-biden-rescind-trumps-boeing-immunity-deal/?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20240125&instance_id=113422&nl=dealbook®i_id=108420427&segment_id=156280&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Allegations of fraud in a recent federal lawsuit — if substantiated — could empower President Biden’s Justice Department to rescind a controversial deferred prosecution agreement granted to Boeing by Donald Trump’s administration and blessed by an archconservative judge in the wake of two 737 Max crashes, according to experts interviewed by The Lever.
The deal, which has long been criticized by crash victims’ families and recently challenged in court by air safety advocates, allowed Boeing to avoid criminal prosecution on fraud charges and shielded Boeing’s senior executives from such prosecution as well.
The agreement — which was announced just days before Trump left office — was emblematic of the Republican administration at once billing itself as a defender of “law and order” but overseeing a record reduction in overall corporate prosecutions and a continuation of the use of leniency deals allowing companies and executives to avoid sanctions.
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Or we could stop changing laws to protect our rich friends.
https://www.levernews.com/will-biden-rescind-trumps-boeing-immunity-deal/?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20240125&instance_id=113422&nl=dealbook®i_id=108420427&segment_id=156280&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Allegations of fraud in a recent federal lawsuit — if substantiated — could empower President Biden’s Justice Department to rescind a controversial deferred prosecution agreement granted to Boeing by Donald Trump’s administration and blessed by an archconservative judge in the wake of two 737 Max crashes, according to experts interviewed by The Lever.
The deal, which has long been criticized by crash victims’ families and recently challenged in court by air safety advocates, allowed Boeing to avoid criminal prosecution on fraud charges and shielded Boeing’s senior executives from such prosecution as well.
The agreement — which was announced just days before Trump left office — was emblematic of the Republican administration at once billing itself as a defender of “law and order” but overseeing a record reduction in overall corporate prosecutions and a continuation of the use of leniency deals allowing companies and executives to avoid sanctions.
Very relevant to the topic at hand.
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Jennifer Crumbley found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the Oxford shooting.
I don't like this.
Clearly not a mother of the year type. But this sets a scary precedent.
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Jennifer Crumbley found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the Oxford shooting.
I don't like this.
Clearly not a mother of the year type. But this sets a scary precedent.
Didn't they reject a bag search and refuse to take him home? I think there was enough there
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Yes. And the jury agrees with you.
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Didn't they reject a bag search and refuse to take him home? I think there was enough there
Plus bought their son who had a history of killing animals, hallucinations, thoughts of kidnapping and hurting classmates, etc. a gun for his 15th birthday.
Obviously not every parent of a mass shooter is responsible for their child's actions. But these parents definitely helped make this a possibility.
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It was a fair and just verdict, and we need more parent-accountability laws when it comes to guns.
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Jennifer Crumbley found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the Oxford shooting.
I don't like this.
Clearly not a mother of the year type. But this sets a scary precedent.
It's not really precedent, though. It's no different than a parent being held criminally liable if they give a kid alcohol and car keys, then the kid goes and hurts or kills someone on the road.
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Agree. It's sad that your cult leader is vowing to pardon hundreds of violent insurrectionists, seditionists, terrorists and other bad people who tried to overthrow the government, wounding well over 100 police officers in the process.
This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
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Get well soon
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This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
Bravo
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This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
Yeah for sure, definitely just a peaceful protest led by the police themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMdCKr1SjXo
There was one police officer who led the violent mob down a hallway so that they would not go down a hallway with government officials in it, so there's that at least.
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This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
The Aristocrats!
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This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
......were you there?
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......were you there?
He drove Tyler
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This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
This country is doomed
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This is Russian dossier redo No such thing as 100 policemen injured and I watched real time the capitol police escorting people throughout the Capitol building . One group was led by a cop who walked ahead and repeatedly stopped and turned back to wait for the group. Further my "lying eyes" saw groups walking through the hall of statues ALL staying between the velvet ropes. I was amazed that normally locked doors had been left open and continued watching the broadcasts to try and figure out what was going on. I hope that the truth of what was going on comes out no matter the consequences and it is disappointing that the Jan.6th Committee destroyed all their "findings" to hinder that end.
Then, after that, your make-believe cop led everybody to the pretend site where the Newtown kids weren't really gunned down.
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This country is doomed
We can thank Rupert Murdoch
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I take heart that liars are being caught and are being forced to pay out big sums for their lies. I am disheartened by the people who still enthusiastically believe the liars.
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This country is doomed
No way.
Not with our leadership that only gets better with age.
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No way.
Not with our leadership that only gets better with age.
I know it’ll never happen, but who’s opposed to age limits at this point?
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I know it’ll never happen, but who’s opposed to age limits at this point?
The geriatrics still in power, and those right behind them that have been promised ascension when the geriatrics eventually pass on.
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The geriatrics still in power, and those right behind them that have been promised ascension when the geriatrics eventually pass on.
A classic liberal society would be appalled at that notion, alas
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Frankly, while I'm moderately conservative, I'm philosophically in agreement with those who want more control over guns and gun ownership. As I read my Constitution, there's nothing that says we can't limit what arms a person can bear. Otherwise, limitations on ownership of atomic bombs, B52 delivery systems and a host of war weapons are unconstitutional.
But for those of you who favor stricter gun control, let me pose the following situational challenge:
We all want guns out of the hands of the Insane Idiots Street Gang in Big Cityville, USA. And we want automatic weapons out of the hands of Ron Shootemup. But I also have a friend who lives in rural Alaska, literally on the edge of a heavy forest. His yard is frequented by moose and by various species of bear. My friend packs heat when he walks the 50 years from his house to his workshop, primarily as protection against rutting moose or hungry bear. No humans have ever been injured during his walk to the workshop. He is an upstanding citizen, legal, registered gun-owner with an FOID and never been convicted of anything more than a traffic violation.
I have another friend who hunts deer in Northern Wisconsin. His guns always are locked up, except when he's in a deer blind waiting for Bambi to mosey on by. He also has an FOID, locks his guns and has been to firearms safety and training class.
How do you get the guns out of the hands of the Insane Idiots and Mr. Shootemup but protect my Alaska and Wisconsin friends' gun ownership rights?
As a final note, we have an interesting issue down here in Florida. If a person trespasses on your property, our state's stand your ground law allows you to shoot the human violator if you are threatened or your security is at risk. However, if an alligator trespasses on your property and is a threat to life or limb, you are required under Florida law to call the Florida Department of Conservation. If you shoot it yourself, it's a Class C felony punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. Only an authorized alligator shooter may shoot the alligator and that's only with DOC authorization.
In short, alligators have more protection than people in Florida!!!!
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In short, alligators have more protection than people in Florida!!!!
They're less dangerous.
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They're less dangerous.
And oftentimes smarter
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And oftentimes smarter
If they're so damn smart, why do they live in a smelly swamp or a dirty lake, rather than adjacent to an ocean?
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If they're so damn smart, why do they live in a smelly swamp or a dirty lake, rather than adjacent to an ocean?
Did you live in McCormick?
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No way.
Not with our leadership that only gets better with age.
yeah, the age of our leaders is not really why I wrote that. we have a large segment of our society who is living in a reality of their own construct, leaving the rest of us to deal with the real reality. most of the dopes are probably older, so maybe as they tap out the problem will get better.
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In short, alligators have more protection than people in Florida!!!!
That's because they can't vote.
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Frankly, while I'm moderately conservative, I'm philosophically in agreement with those who want more control over guns and gun ownership. As I read my Constitution, there's nothing that says we can't limit what arms a person can bear. Otherwise, limitations on ownership of atomic bombs, B52 delivery systems and a host of war weapons are unconstitutional.
But for those of you who favor stricter gun control, let me pose the following situational challenge:
We all want guns out of the hands of the Insane Idiots Street Gang in Big Cityville, USA. And we want automatic weapons out of the hands of Ron Shootemup. But I also have a friend who lives in rural Alaska, literally on the edge of a heavy forest. His yard is frequented by moose and by various species of bear. My friend packs heat when he walks the 50 years from his house to his workshop, primarily as protection against rutting moose or hungry bear. No humans have ever been injured during his walk to the workshop. He is an upstanding citizen, legal, registered gun-owner with an FOID and never been convicted of anything more than a traffic violation.
I have another friend who hunts deer in Northern Wisconsin. His guns always are locked up, except when he's in a deer blind waiting for Bambi to mosey on by. He also has an FOID, locks his guns and has been to firearms safety and training class.
How do you get the guns out of the hands of the Insane Idiots and Mr. Shootemup but protect my Alaska and Wisconsin friends' gun ownership rights?
This has been answered multiple times by multiple posters over the last several years.
You can't get guns out of the hands of everyone who shouldn't have them. That's impossible, just as it's impossible to get drugs out of drug addicts' hands or booze out of alcoholics' hands or ...
And even the strongest laws are broken somewhere by someone pretty much every day. Having a law doesn't prevent crime, it only can deter it, discourage it, make it more difficult to commit, and/or punish it. Take restraining orders ... they don't stop everybody who's been served one from breaking the order and attacking the person the order is supposed to be protecting, but I doubt many people support ending restraining orders.
There are many common-sense gun-safety laws that could help the situation. Universal registration requirements with no loopholes. Mandatory waiting periods after purchase. Guns inside a home must be stored where children can't get them. Mandatory training. Strong red-flag laws. No weapons that can shoot dozens of rounds in a matter of seconds. No bump stocks.
Most of those (and others I can't think of off the top of my head) are supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans - gun-owning Republicans included.
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Frankly, while I'm moderately conservative, I'm philosophically in agreement with those who want more control over guns and gun ownership. As I read my Constitution, there's nothing that says we can't limit what arms a person can bear. Otherwise, limitations on ownership of atomic bombs, B52 delivery systems and a host of war weapons are unconstitutional.
But for those of you who favor stricter gun control, let me pose the following situational challenge:
We all want guns out of the hands of the Insane Idiots Street Gang in Big Cityville, USA. And we want automatic weapons out of the hands of Ron Shootemup. But I also have a friend who lives in rural Alaska, literally on the edge of a heavy forest. His yard is frequented by moose and by various species of bear. My friend packs heat when he walks the 50 years from his house to his workshop, primarily as protection against rutting moose or hungry bear. No humans have ever been injured during his walk to the workshop. He is an upstanding citizen, legal, registered gun-owner with an FOID and never been convicted of anything more than a traffic violation.
I have another friend who hunts deer in Northern Wisconsin. His guns always are locked up, except when he's in a deer blind waiting for Bambi to mosey on by. He also has an FOID, locks his guns and has been to firearms safety and training class.
How do you get the guns out of the hands of the Insane Idiots and Mr. Shootemup but protect my Alaska and Wisconsin friends' gun ownership rights?
As a final note, we have an interesting issue down here in Florida. If a person trespasses on your property, our state's stand your ground law allows you to shoot the human violator if you are threatened or your security is at risk. However, if an alligator trespasses on your property and is a threat to life or limb, you are required under Florida law to call the Florida Department of Conservation. If you shoot it yourself, it's a Class C felony punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. Only an authorized alligator shooter may shoot the alligator and that's only with DOC authorization.
In short, alligators have more protection than people in Florida!!!!
Treat guns like cars - training, license, insurance, etc.
Severely punish gun related crime.
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Treat guns like cars - training, license, insurance, etc.
Severely punish gun related crime.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/how-to-get-a-concealed-carry-permit/north-carolina/
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https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/how-to-get-a-concealed-carry-permit/north-carolina/
Ah, so you agree. A well REGULATED militia means WELL REGULATED.
Good to know.
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Ah, so you agree. A well REGULATED militia means WELL REGULATED.
Good to know.
Most people do. It's the gun industry that doesn't
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The current existing laws could be enforced and that would go a long way toward what we all want.
Keep violent felons off the street.. Use the laws we already have enacted
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Keep violent felons off the street.. Use the laws we already have enacted
These two things are contradictory.
Plus, a large majority of murderers, and nearly all mass shooters, are not violent felons prior to those crimes.
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These two things are contradictory.
Plus, a large majority of murderers, and nearly all mass shooters, are not violent felons prior to those crimes.
More doors will stop these events
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These two things are contradictory.
Plus, a large majority of murderers, and nearly all mass shooters, are not violent felons prior to those crimes.
A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
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A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
this is utterly and completely incorrect. Why am I not surprised given you think 1/6 was some kind of psyop and the proof is coming.
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A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
Other than Chuck Norris, I don't know if anyone's fists are causing the destruction in a short amount of time as a gun can.
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A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
I guess if you have some wild definition of "majority" then maybe. Maybe your definition of "majority" thinks Donald Trump received a "majority" of the votes in 2020 (or 2016 for that matter).
In 2019, 45.7% of homicides were carried out with handguns, 2.6% with rifles, 1.4% with shotguns, 23.9% with unknown type of firearms, 10.6% with knives or other cutting instruments, 11.4% with other weapons, and 4.3% with hands, fists, feet, etc.
So unless things have changed dramatically (they haven't), you have one crazy way of definining "majority."
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A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
This is terribly false.
Of the 19,200 homicides recorded in 2022, 15,643 were committed with a gun.
That's 81.4%.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/shr
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A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
Wow. Just wow.
You are amazing.
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A large majority of murderers do not use guns . Clubs, fists and other weapons account for most murders
Consider this your induction to the Hall of Shame.
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It also states that reporting is not complete but i will concede though i have seen other figures
I will remind you that the FBI and CDC"s own numbers suggest that the presence of a gun either stops or prevents a crime in the U.S. from 1.5MM to 2MM times each year. There are far more law abiding citizens than criminals.
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Consider this your induction to the Hall of Shame.
A Proud Man's Contumely Affects Me Not
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I will remind you that the FBI and CDC"s own numbers suggest that the presence of a gun either stops or prevents a crime in the U.S. from 1.5MM to 2MM times each year. There are far more law abiding citizens than criminals.
This also has been widely debunked.
https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/defensive-gun-use-data-good-guys-with-guns/
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/defensive-gun-use.html
Anyone with common sense would understand why. If just the 1.5 million number were correct, that would mean guns stop a crime from occurring 4,109 times a day every single day. Or 171 times every hour, 24 hours a day. Or three times every single minute of every singe day, a gun is used to stop a crime.
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A Proud Man's Contumely Affects Me Not
Cool word choice. I will have to file that one away. At some point, I will have to figure out how to use 'contume jewelry' in a joke.
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It also states that reporting is not complete but i will concede though i have seen other figures
Did you see the other figures in the footage of the happy, peaceful January 6th tourists who were chanting "Hang Mike Pence" only in the most gentle, lovingest way?
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When actual factual facts don't back up the case you're trying to make ... go for alternative facts!
Kellyanne Conway's lone major contribution to political discourse, but it's a big one.
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I'm merely repeating Government studied speculation not essays. Certainly there are a lot of unreported incidences of citizens defending themselves. I 'm just trying to reach the truth and am open to listening to rebuttals from respectful parties room for all perspectives
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I'm merely repeating Government studied speculation not essays. Certainly there are a lot of unreported incidences of citizens defending themselves. I 'm just trying to reach the truth and am open to listening to rebuttals from respectful parties room for all perspectives
But you're not.
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This also has been widely debunked.
https://www.thetrace.org/2022/06/defensive-gun-use-data-good-guys-with-guns/
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/defensive-gun-use.html
Anyone with common sense would understand why. If just the 1.5 million number were correct, that would mean guns stop a crime from occurring 4,109 times a day every single day. Or 171 times every hour, 24 hours a day. Or three times every single minute of every singe day, a gun is used to stop a crime.
Well, I was walking down the street, people must have thought I had a gun in my pocket, and about 40 or 50 people did not attack me. So does that count?
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I will remind you that the FBI and CDC"s own numbers suggest that the presence of a gun either stops or prevents a crime in the U.S. from 1.5MM to 2MM times each year. There are far more law abiding citizens than criminals.
Ive shared this with you previously. That number is based on a 1994 phone survey where 19 out of around 4000 gun owners surveyed claimed without proof that they had used their gun to stop a crime in the past year. The researchers then decided this was generalizable to the who country which is of course ridiculous. This study is also not " the CDCs/FBIs own numbers" it was refrenced on their websites
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regardless of the numbers of crimes stopped because the intended victims had guns or not-if you or someone you cared about was involved in a crime and it was stopped because someone near by or the victim themself had a gun, that is good, no? last checked, guns are legal. yes they are used for bad chit as well, but so are many other "things".
your wife or daughter is being raped, kids, loved ones lives being threatened, whatever...at least you had a chance. no gun? oh, call the po leese. if/when they get there, arrest the perp only to see him/her walk out the door before the report has been written up. then you are left to pick up the pieces, plan psychological care, funerals etc...if you are alive to do so
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regardless of the numbers of crimes stopped because the intended victims had guns or not-if you or someone you cared about was involved in a crime and it was stopped because someone near by or the victim themself had a gun, that is good, no? last checked, guns are legal. yes they are used for bad chit as well, but so are many other "things".
your wife or daughter is being raped, kids, loved ones lives being threatened, whatever...at least you had a chance. no gun? oh, call the po leese. if/when they get there, arrest the perp only to see him/her walk out the door before the report has been written up. then you are left to pick up the pieces, plan psychological care, funerals etc...if you are alive to do so
Question, do you feel there should be tougher red flag laws, a national registry, mandatory licensing and training?
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regardless of the numbers of crimes stopped because the intended victims had guns or not-if you or someone you cared about was involved in a crime and it was stopped because someone near by or the victim themself had a gun, that is good, no? last checked, guns are legal. yes they are used for bad chit as well, but so are many other "things".
your wife or daughter is being raped, kids, loved ones lives being threatened, whatever...at least you had a chance. no gun? oh, call the po leese. if/when they get there, arrest the perp only to see him/her walk out the door before the report has been written up. then you are left to pick up the pieces, plan psychological care, funerals etc...if you are alive to do so
::) ::) ::) Yes. Let's stop enacting policy by statistical evidence and the like. Let's do it by feelings and anecdotes.
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regardless of the numbers of crimes stopped because the intended victims had guns or not-if you or someone you cared about was involved in a crime and it was stopped because someone near by or the victim themself had a gun, that is good, no? last checked, guns are legal. yes they are used for bad chit as well, but so are many other "things".
your wife or daughter is being raped, kids, loved ones lives being threatened, whatever...at least you had a chance. no gun? oh, call the po leese. if/when they get there, arrest the perp only to see him/her walk out the door before the report has been written up. then you are left to pick up the pieces, plan psychological care, funerals etc...if you are alive to do so
Of course it's good. But that wasn't the point.
Also, I think you overestimate the number of times the situation you're describing happens.
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Of course it's good. But that wasn't the point.
Also, I think you overestimate the number of times the situation you're describing happens.
not overestimating just saying. for me, all it has to do is happen once.
there are unintended consequences with A LOT of things. if we prosecuted bad people expediently, bad stuff would occur less often. if bad behavior ain't addressed properly, you will see more of it
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not overestimating just saying. for me, all it has to do is happen once.
there are unintended consequences with A LOT of things. if we prosecuted bad people expediently, bad stuff would occur less often. if bad behavior ain't addressed properly, you will see more of it
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not overestimating just saying. for me, all it has to do is happen once.
No. That's dumb. You don't base policy because something might happen once.
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not overestimating just saying. for me, all it has to do is happen once.
....So if someone could kill dozens of people with a legally purchased gun doesb that only need to happen once too?
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regardless of the numbers of crimes stopped because the intended victims had guns or not-if you or someone you cared about was involved in a crime and it was stopped because someone near by or the victim themself had a gun, that is good, no? last checked, guns are legal. yes they are used for bad chit as well, but so are many other "things".
your wife or daughter is being raped, kids, loved ones lives being threatened, whatever...at least you had a chance. no gun? oh, call the po leese. if/when they get there, arrest the perp only to see him/her walk out the door before the report has been written up. then you are left to pick up the pieces, plan psychological care, funerals etc...if you are alive to do so
If a loved one is gunned down while enjoying a Fourth of July parade, or if your wife or daughter is raped at gunpoint by a lunatic who should have been flagged and not sold a gun ... I guess such stuff is fine with you because, you know, guns are legal.
Also, nice job ignoring this:
Question, do you feel there should be tougher red flag laws, a national registry, mandatory licensing and training?
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Shooting today at Joel Osteen’s megachurch in Houston.
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Shooting today at Joel Osteen’s megachurch in Houston.
I bet it's someone who "donated" their life savings, or had a relative "donate" their life savings to that conman.
Basically the same origin story of the Shinzo Abe assassin.
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I bet it's someone who "donated" their life savings, or had a relative "donate" their life savings to that conman.
Basically the same origin story of the Shinzo Abe assassin.
Remains somewhat remarkable how the Abe incident actually ended up revealing a lot of sketchy things in Japanese gov and got sweeping policy changes to restrict the UC organization, as well as shuffling their cabinet.
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I bet it's someone who "donated" their life savings, or had a relative "donate" their life savings to that conman.
Basically the same origin story of the Shinzo Abe assassin.
Read the lengthy article written last year in the Atlantic about the Abe assassination and the Moonies. Yikes!
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Remains somewhat remarkable how the Abe incident actually ended up revealing a lot of sketchy things in Japanese gov and got sweeping policy changes to restrict the UC organization, as well as shuffling their cabinet.
In terms of "did the assassin effectuate the political change he desired with his action" the Abe situation might actually be the one I can think of where it kinda worked.
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In terms of "did the assassin effectuate the political change he desired with his action" the Abe situation might actually be the one I can think of where it kinda worked.
Seriously! It might be the most effective assassination in modern history in terms of minimal collateral damage and getting what he wanted. All while using a gun from Fallout
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the shooter in the joel osteen church was born as a man with "free palestine" on his/her rifle
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Somehow I knew you'd be posting this^
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the shooter in the joel osteen church was born as a man with "free palestine" on his/her rifle
Cool.
Now 0.14 percent of mass shooters are transgender.
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Cool.
Now 0.14 percent of mass shooters are transgender.
Cops aren’t calling her transgender. She has an extensive criminal history and based on reporting, was in a bitter custody battle where she fired her lawyer to represent herself.
She had mental health protective orders placed on her. Cops believe the “Free Palestine” on the gun was directly related to her divorce and arguments with her husbands family. She made anti-semitic statements according to cops.
Yet, this mentally unstable hateful person had access to a weapon capable of mass killing
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the shooter in the joel osteen church was born as a man with "free palestine" on his/her rifle
I'd post the gender of every gun murderer in America but it would be a 24/7 job.
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I am hoping the Elkhorn bar shooter is caught, too. I was hoping MU would move the campus there, but now I'm scared.
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I wish someone who has prior convictions of assault of a public servant, assault causing bodily injury, forgery, theft, evading arrest, unlawful carrying weapon, failure to stop and give information wouldn’t be able to have a weapon of war.
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the shooter in the joel osteen church was born as a man with "free palestine" on his/her rifle
and the Houston police refuted the Libsoftiktok conclusion you echoed here. No doubt you'll acknowledge your error and make sure the acknowledgment is as widely reported as the false agitprop was.
Something something lies get around the world before something something truth, eh?
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Gotta lock these crazies up. Had plenty of chances.
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Gotta lock these crazies up. Had plenty of chances.
Where? There's a massive shortage in beds at inpatient care facilities.
Want to throw everyone in jail? There's a shortage of space there, as well.
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Where? There's a massive shortage in beds at inpatient care facilities.
Want to throw everyone in jail? There's a shortage of space there, as well.
#BuildMore
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#BuildMore
#taxmore
#nimby
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#BuildMore
Which criminals should we lock up? Some are running for office
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Which criminals should we lock up? Some are running for office
Like Hur said — he’s elderly & has a poor memory, so not him.
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Like Hur said — he’s elderly & has a poor memory, so not him.
What about the other one? The indicted one? Probably not. He’s part of the privileged class.
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What about the other one? The indicted one? Probably not. He’s part of the privileged class.
I think we can all agree that neither should be allowed to possess a firearm.
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I think we can all agree that neither should be allowed to possess a firearm.
Hallelujah
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wow! come out in droves over what was originally widely reported. correct, the houston police are not listing gender identity as a possible motive or factor in the shooting
if it turns out, jeffrey or genesse is NOT trans, then fine, but initial reports were that he/she was. so if jeffrey was in the news saving a bag of puppy dogs on the side of the highway...or was it genesse?
and yes, who sold the gun to him/her is important as well
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wow! come out in droves over what was originally widely reported. correct, the houston police are not listing gender identity as a possible motive or factor in the shooting
if it turns out, jeffrey or genesse is NOT trans, then fine, but initial reports were that he/she was. so if jeffrey was in the news saving a bag of puppy dogs on the side of the highway...or was it genesse?
and yes, who sold the gun to him/her is important as well
Why is the person's gender important?
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I think we can all agree that neither should be allowed to possess a firearm.
Unless they want to recreate Burr/Hamilton
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wow! come out in droves over what was originally widely reported. correct, the houston police are not listing gender identity as a possible motive or factor in the shooting
if it turns out, jeffrey or genesse is NOT trans, then fine, but initial reports were that he/she was. so if jeffrey was in the news saving a bag of puppy dogs on the side of the highway...or was it genesse?
and yes, who sold the gun to him/her is important as well
Just a thought but maybe this should be a lesson not to jump on the first rumors to come out of a breaking news situation… especially when those rumors align with politically salient talking points and ones own preexisting biases.
Or just keep being reactionary and objectively bad at using the internet in a way that pursues accuracy. Whichever.
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Just a thought but maybe this should be a lesson not to jump on the first rumors to come out of a breaking news situation… especially when those rumors align with politically salient talking points and ones own preexisting biases.
Or just keep being reactionary and objectively bad at using the internet in a way that pursues accuracy. Whichever.
It’s not about being accurate. It’s about what you wish was accurate.
It’s about jumping all over any opening no matter how vague for your preferred narrative and cowering in the bushes when the situation solidifies.
I will just never be able to get over how gleeful and quick to post some people are when there are unsubstantiated rumors that someone who is suggested to be part of a group they deem below them either committing crimes or being the victim of them.
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Unless they want to recreate Burr/Hamilton
RIP Innocent(?) Bystanders
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the shooter in the joel osteen church was born as a man with "free palestine" on his/her rifle
Do you want to change this post?
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Thank goodness we have extra police in the NYC subways to catch fare evaders or there might be a shooting
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Jeffrey
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Just a thought but maybe this should be a lesson not to jump on the first rumors to come out of a breaking news situation… especially when those rumors align with politically salient talking points and ones own preexisting biases.
Or just keep being reactionary and objectively bad at using the internet in a way that pursues accuracy. Whichever.
i know, really...no one on here has ever done that before
it was being WIDELY reported. i really don't care if person as a martian! it was a tragic incident all around. the media confusion probably arose from the names genesse referred to herself as. let's just say she was a bad bad person, especially putting a child in harms way
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i know, really...no one on here has ever done that before
it was being WIDELY reported. i really don't care if person as a martian! it was a tragic incident all around. the media confusion probably arose from the names genesse referred to herself as. let's just say she was a bad bad person, especially putting a child in harms way
Not sure anyone was leaping to the shooters defense or saying she wasn’t a bad person…
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i know, really...no one on here has ever done that before
it was being WIDELY reported. i really don't care if person as a martian!
This doesn't ring quite true. Whenever a mass shooting is committed by a straight white male - and that's the vast majority of them - I don't recall you rushing onto Scoop to point out the person's gender.
And yet you're 2-for-2 when the shooter may be gender fluid or trans.
So, it seems as if you care very much. The question is, why?
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Jeffrey
Dahmer? Epstein? Jones?
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i know, really...no one on here has ever done that before
it was being WIDELY reported. i really don't care if person as a martian! it was a tragic incident all around. the media confusion probably arose from the names genesse referred to herself as. let's just say she was a bad bad person, especially putting a child in harms way
Then why was the possibility of the person being trans important enough for you to post?
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This doesn't ring quite true. Whenever a mass shooting is committed by a straight white male - and that's the vast majority of them - I don't recall you rushing onto Scoop to point out the person's gender.
And yet you're 2-for-2 when the shooter may be gender fluid or trans.
So, it seems as if you care very much. The question is, why?
Because for the movement to function there must be an out group. The real trick is getting people to realize that once one out group is gone and no longer an operative motivating force, the movement will require a new out group. And so on. When, oh when, does the roulette wheel fall on the group you belong to?
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This doesn't ring quite true. Whenever a mass shooting is committed by a straight white male - and that's the vast majority of them - I don't recall you rushing onto Scoop to point out the person's gender.
And yet you're 2-for-2 when the shooter may be gender fluid or trans.
So, it seems as if you care very much. The question is, why?
Because people who manipulate those who lack critical thinking skills said so!
https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7bnna/lakewood-church-shooting-houston-far-right-misinformation-claiming-suspect-transgender
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i know, really...no one on here has ever done that before
it was being WIDELY reported. i really don't care if person as a martian! it was a tragic incident all around. the media confusion probably arose from the names genesse referred to herself as. let's just say she was a bad bad person, especially putting a child in harms way
You don't really care if the martian.
But if it's a transgender person, then we have a problem! As evidenced by the fact that you couldn't wait to run to Scoop to tell everyone that it was a transgender person...yet again...as all mass shootings are.
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Dahmer? Epstein? Jones?
Jeffrey is what the megachurch shooter liked to go by
But.. speaking of Dahmer… ban dumbbells, hands, triazolam, drills and muriatic acid!!!
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Jeffrey is what the megachurch shooter liked to go by
But.. speaking of Dahmer… ban dumbbells, hands, triazolam, drills and muriatic acid!!!
That was unnecessarily mean-spirited. I apologize.
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Jeffrey is what the megachurch shooter liked to go by
But.. speaking of Dahmer… ban dumbbells, hands, triazolam, drills and muriatic acid!!!
Actually, that’s not a realistic discussion, banning those things. Like guns. Extremists on the left screaming to ban all guns will never be satisfied and their voices are the ones that cripple and realistic path to addressing the very uniquely American love affair with mass violence.
Similarly, those on the right that reduce it to ridiculous arguments like this, what about dumbbells aren’t actually serious about addressing the issue either.
The good news is, you guys have created a new boogeyman, transgender individuals that you can use to deflect from America’s unique affair with mass violence
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"The good news is, you guys have created a new boogeyman, transgender individuals that you can use to deflect from America’s unique affair with mass violence"
no we didn't-just pointing out the fact that you guys have created another class victims to add to your ever growing stash whom you so predictably form a forcefield around...cue it up...you can't touch this.
americas "unique affair with mass violence"?? you don't get out much do you
and why do you think america has such an "affair" with mass violence? hint-george s
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no we didn't-just pointing out the fact that you guys have created another class victims to add to your ever growing stash whom you so predictably form a forcefield around...cue it up...you can't touch this.
They need protection due to discriminatory practices and false accusations.
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no we didn't-just pointing out the fact that you guys have created another class victims to add to your ever growing stash whom you so predictably form a forcefield around...cue it up...you can't touch this.
Women. Blacks. Jews. The disabled. Homosexuals. Now transgender people.
Regular Americans are running out of people to discriminate against consequence free.
But please answer the question. Why do you feel it "important" that a mass shooter may be trans?
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Women. Blacks. Jews. The disabled. Homosexuals. Now transgender people.
Regular Americans are running out of people to discriminate against consequence free.
But please answer the question. Why do you feel it "important" that a mass shooter may be trans?
I heard the shooter was hopped up on Ivermectin. Makes you wonder if Ivermectin causes mass shootings.
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Shots fired at the Chiefs rally.
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Shots fired at the Chiefs rally.
Hopefully, it was just an acorn falling
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"The good news is, you guys have created a new boogeyman, transgender individuals that you can use to deflect from America’s unique affair with mass violence"
no we didn't-just pointing out the fact that you guys have created another class victims to add to your ever growing stash whom you so predictably form a forcefield around...cue it up...you can't touch this.
americas "unique affair with mass violence"?? you don't get out much do you
and why do you think america has such an "affair" with mass violence? hint-george s
"You guys create boogeyman!" Also, George Soros and the Jews are responsible for mass violence in America.
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Hopefully, it was just an acorn falling
Shooting at a Super Bowl parade. Does it get any more American than that?
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If only each of the 500K parade-goers packed 3 or 4 AR-15s, all would have been safe.
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If only each of the 500K parade-goers packed 3 or 4 AR-15s, all would have been safe.
The videos showed law enforcement running into the Union Square building. Not sure if they were chasing someone(s) (2 suspects allegedly in custody) or if shooting was from there?
If they have 2 suspects in custody and that’s what the KC Police are saying, I wonder if this isn’t something that escalated from a fight/argument. The maniacs that usually target large crowds either kill themselves are make the cops kill them.
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The videos showed law enforcement running into the Union Square building. Not sure if they were chasing someone(s) (2 suspects allegedly in custody) or if shooting was from there?
If they have 2 suspects in custody and that’s what the KC Police are saying, I wonder if this isn’t something that escalated from a fight/argument. The maniacs that usually target large crowds either kill themselves are make the cops kill them.
Do we know the suspects' gender yet?
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rocketman in 3,2,1
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Do we know the suspects' gender yet?
It's a fluid situation.
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Guns are fun.
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It's a fluid situation.
Well played, sir.
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Y'all aren't thinking deeply enough about this. Taylor Swift was a psy-op to get Biden re-elected, then staging this shooting is so that Biden has reason to take our guns away. They're playing five dimensional chess, and you guys are just thinking checkers.
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Y'all aren't thinking deeply enough about this. Taylor Swift was a psy-op to get Biden re-elected, then staging this shooting is so that Biden has reason to take our guns away. They're playing five dimensional chess, and you guys are just thinking checkers.
The thought of trump playing five dimensional chess made me laugh out loud.
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Y'all aren't thinking deeply enough about this. Taylor Swift was a psy-op to get Biden re-elected, then staging this shooting is so that Biden has reason to take our guns away. They're playing five dimensional chess, and you guys are just thinking checkers.
We are the dumbest country.
A Monmouth University poll released today showed that 18% believe that Swift is part of a covert government effort to help Joe Biden get elected this year. Almost half of respondents, or 46%, had heard of the premise, as the conspiracy theory took on new life in advance of the Super Bowl.
According to Monmouth, “Fully 71% of those who believe this identify with or lean toward the Republican Party and 83% indicate they are likely to support Donald Trump in the fall.”
https://deadline.com/2024/02/taylor-swift-poll-joe-biden-1235825510/
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We are the dumbest country.
A Monmouth University poll released today showed that 18% believe that Swift is part of a covert government effort to help Joe Biden get elected this year. Almost half of respondents, or 46%, had heard of the premise, as the conspiracy theory took on new life in advance of the Super Bowl.
According to Monmouth, “Fully 71% of those who believe this identify with or lean toward the Republican Party and 83% indicate they are likely to support Donald Trump in the fall.”
https://deadline.com/2024/02/taylor-swift-poll-joe-biden-1235825510/
Yes, we do.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article285074737.html
A January poll by Redfield & Wilton Strategies found 18% of voters said they were prone to vote for a candidate endorsed by Swift. “Swift reaches groups of people, some of whom are not very interested in politics, do not follow traditional news, do not have much political knowledge, but have built up a close relationship with Taylor Swift and trust her,” Christian von Sikorski, a professor of political psychology at University Kaiserslautern-Landau in Germany, told McClatchy News.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article285074737.html#storylink=cpy
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The good news is, education is a top priority for, um, well, somebody in power, I hope?
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Yes, we do.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article285074737.html
A January poll by Redfield & Wilton Strategies found 18% of voters said they were prone to vote for a candidate endorsed by Swift. “Swift reaches groups of people, some of whom are not very interested in politics, do not follow traditional news, do not have much political knowledge, but have built up a close relationship with Taylor Swift and trust her,” Christian von Sikorski, a professor of political psychology at University Kaiserslautern-Landau in Germany, told McClatchy News.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article285074737.html#storylink=cpy
Race determines voter turnout. Religion (Or perceived affiliation of such) determines voter turnout. Gender determines voter turnout.
Low information/bias voters are voters nonetheless. Maybe present a better case for celebrities to buy what you are selling. Or pay them if that's what they want.
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Hopefully, it was just an acorn falling
That video is wild. Was it just released today?
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That video is wild. Was it just released today?
I saw it first today. The internal review came out and it’s not flattering for the guy in it. Luckily, he resigned
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Yes, we do.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article285074737.html
A January poll by Redfield & Wilton Strategies found 18% of voters said they were prone to vote for a candidate endorsed by Swift. “Swift reaches groups of people, some of whom are not very interested in politics, do not follow traditional news, do not have much political knowledge, but have built up a close relationship with Taylor Swift and trust her,” Christian von Sikorski, a professor of political psychology at University Kaiserslautern-Landau in Germany, told McClatchy News.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article285074737.html#storylink=cpy
Allowing celebrity's endorsements to influence one's voting is silly, but hardly new or unusual. More than 100 years ago, presidential candidates were offering Babe Ruth money for his endorsement.
But being influenced by a celebrity endorsement isn't in the same galaxy of stupid as believing the Taylor Swift psyop conspiracy.
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I saw it first today. The internal review came out and it’s not flattering for the guy in it. Luckily, he resigned
A cop can be a Florida man too.
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The good news is, education is a top priority for, um, well, somebody in power, I hope?
NCAA
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Hopefully, it was just an acorn falling
https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/s/EIhFdmN6KE
My god
The suspect was handcuffed inside the vehicle after being searched by the officer and his partner
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/s/EIhFdmN6KE
My god
The suspect was handcuffed inside the vehicle after being searched by the officer and his partner
Never know what things can be well hidden in a body’s crevices. Ask TSmith.
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The double barrel roll is a nice touch. Like JB when a geriatric comes to the net in pickleball.
Where does he think he is, Marquette’s campus?
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800 cops. And there’s not a thing they could do about it.
And republicans won’t allow anything that will make the public safer from these occurrences.
But they are all over DEI and repressing history. Embarrassing.
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People making the Onion's "only nation where this regularly happens" joke are being disingenuous. We are the only place with Super Bowl parades, and thus, of course we are the only place with mass shootings at Super Bowl parades.
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People making the Onion's "only nation where this regularly happens" joke are being disingenuous. We are the only place with Super Bowl parades, and thus, of course we are the only place with mass shootings at Super Bowl parades.
Great point we should cancel celebrations since they're making liberals threaten people's gun rights.
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Never know what things can be well hidden in a body’s crevices. Ask TSmith.
Thinking about my body again. Time to come out. Be your authentic self.
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800 cops. And there’s not a thing they could do about it.
And republicans won’t allow anything that will make the public safer from these occurrences.
But they are all over DEI and repressing history. Embarrassing.
Congratulations on violating the " Politics free zone" prohibitions without any repercussion.
Some people have all the luck I guess.
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rocketman in 3,2,1
Huh, what? Does 3-2-1 mean minutes? Hours? Days? Who do you think I am? Auntie reeeko? Seeing as how y’all got this figured out, I’m just looking thank you. Some of us have to pick our spots carefully as the “justice” is swift and humorous. But the blame game is exactly what they want. In the mean time, our edumacation system is either a huge success or failure depending on who’s poster ya got hanging in your garage. Whatever you do, watch what they are exposing our children to, right Mr Epstein? Oh, he committed suicide, that’s right “journalism” is still dead
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Huh, what? Does 3-2-1 mean minutes? Hours? Days? Who do you think I am? Auntie reeeko? Seeing as how y’all got this figured out, I’m just looking thank you. Some of us have to pick our spots carefully as the “justice” is swift and humorous. But the blame game is exactly what they want. In the mean time, our edumacation system is either a huge success or failure depending on who’s poster ya got hanging in your garage. Whatever you do, watch what they are exposing our children to, right Mr Epstein? Oh, he committed suicide, that’s right “journalism” is still dead
9 out of 10
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Mad respect to the civilians who charged the gunman.
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9 out of 10
Really? I think he was trying too hard.
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Really? I think he was trying too hard.
Effort should be rewarded in the score.
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Effort should be rewarded in the score.
I think he was just throwing stuff in there to puff up the score. It really didn't flow naturally in a rocket-brain kind of way.
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I think he was just throwing stuff in there to puff up the score. It really didn't flow naturally in a rocket-brain kind of way.
Ha! It just goes to show rocket is not an AI bot.
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Really? I think he was trying too hard.
The gender switch is truly lazy, as is the name from Rico to Reeko. It does show a lack of intellect resorting to 4th grade insults.
However, putting journalism in air quotes in this discussion along with what children are being taught and an Epstein reference? Off-topic and deranged always score high.
Is it one to hang on the dental school walls? Maybe not, but still captures the rocket essence quite well.
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According to the National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA), gun owners in Missouri are not required to obtain a permit to buy rifles, shotguns, or handguns, or they do not have to register their firearms or be licensed to own them, and do not need a permit to carry them.
Guns for everybody!
Also, the shooting happened on the 6th anniversary of the Parkland shooting. After that one, the then-president suggested that guns be taken away from those flagged as potential dangers to society. Pence and several congresspeople practically had coronaries on the spot. Soon after, LaPierre got together with the then-president, and he never mentioned such a horrible idea (to gun-lovers) again.
More guns for everybody!
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Violent crime in a city known for issues with violent crime. I am shocked i tell you, shocked.
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Huh, what? Does 3-2-1 mean minutes? Hours? Days? Who do you think I am? Auntie reeeko? Seeing as how y’all got this figured out, I’m just looking thank you. Some of us have to pick our spots carefully as the “justice” is swift and humorous. But the blame game is exactly what they want. In the mean time, our edumacation system is either a huge success or failure depending on who’s poster ya got hanging in your garage. Whatever you do, watch what they are exposing our children to, right Mr Epstein? Oh, he committed suicide, that’s right “journalism” is still dead
You pick your spots so carefully that you come in here screaming a shooter is transgender when the shooter is not. You were very careful to make sure you had the full, accurate information, as always.
Based on the fact that you don't know the difference between who's and whose and you're considered a medical professional, I'd say our edumacation system is a huge failure.
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Obsession on the demographics of the shooters in these situations kind of shows yet another perverse way the mass shooting/gun debate is handled.
Caring overly about the race/gender/demo of the shooter is way to unnecessarily (IMO) inject race into a discussion of national safety/gun laws/mental health/whatever, which then lets staunch 2A defenders fight on the front of demographics and media coverage of said demographics instead of addressing the gun issue. When in reality, we've seen mass shooters of all races, ethnic, socioeconomic, and religious backgrounds.
You can be pro-gun reform and still think "White Man Bad" is a stupid way to approach the issue. Many sensible people don't do it in this way, but a non-insignificant amount of people of influence/audience still do and don't realize the diversion it causes (or better yet probably don't care).
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Obsession on the demographics of the shooters in these situations kind of shows yet another perverse way the mass shooting/gun debate is handled.
Caring overly about the race/gender/demo of the shooter is way to unnecessarily (IMO) inject race into a discussion of national safety/gun laws/mental health/whatever, which then lets staunch 2A defenders fight on the front of demographics and media coverage of said demographics instead of addressing the gun issue. When in reality, we've seen mass shooters of all races, ethnic, socioeconomic, and religious backgrounds.
You can be pro-gun reform and still think "White Man Bad" is a stupid way to approach the issue. Many sensible people don't do it in this way, but a non-insignificant amount of people of influence/audience still do and don't realize the diversion it causes (or better yet probably don't care).
I think gender is an important part of the conversation. Men commit 98% of mass shootings. Why? I think that is a question worth exploring. This doesn't mean "men are bad" as the % of men who commit mass shootings is microscopically small. But it's a male issue. Is there something we are teaching men that makes them more susceptible to engaging in this kind of violence? Can any intervention be done?
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What is a male?
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You pick your spots so carefully that you come in here screaming a shooter is transgender when the shooter is not. You were very careful to make sure you had the full, accurate information, as always.
Based on the fact that you don't know the difference between who's and whose and you're considered a medical professional, I'd say our edumacation system is a huge failure.
oh give it a rest racist...ever hear of auto(in)correct? to prove i used my ipad for that post, note the capitalizations i never use unless i feel like it.