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Title: Hate ND
Post by: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
MU was 0-8 against ND while I was in school.   David F-ing Rivers.     The only good thing that happened against ND while I was in school was someone accidentally losing control of their beer near Digger.     Beer was a lot cheaper then.    I caught MU-ND in South Bend during in December of 2002.   ND stomped MU.    Not only that, they were handing out sheets full of what they thought were embarrassing things about the MU players.    ND is the school I hate, far more than Wisconsin.        I want to see MU with another 30 point lead and the walk ons finishing the game.   
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 07, 2023, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
MU was 0-8 against ND while I was in school.   David F-ing Rivers.     The only good thing that happened against ND while I was in school was someone accidentally losing control of their beer near Digger.     Beer was a lot cheaper then.    I caught MU-ND in South Bend during in December of 2002.   ND stomped MU.    Not only that, they were handing out sheets full of what they thought were embarrassing things about the MU players.    ND is the school I hate, far more than Wisconsin.        I want to see MU with another 30 point lead and the walk ons finishing the game.

MU maybe beat ND once in my 1987-1991 tenure?
Yeah, I definitely hate ND more than Wisconsin too.  But it's close!
Looking forward to hopeful beat down.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2023, 02:51:07 PM
During my first senior year (2013) won an all expense paid trip to the big east tournament and had courtside seats to see us get beat by them in their stupid shamrock shake looking jerseys. Still had a fun trip but I was looking forward to a lot more Marquette games that weekend.

Also my freshman year Shreck the first's buzzer beating three to send the game to OT where they won has always left a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: swoopem on December 07, 2023, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2023, 02:51:07 PM
During my first senior year (2013) won an all expense paid trip to the big east tournament and had courtside seats to see us get beat by them in their stupid shamrock shake looking jerseys. Still had a fun trip but I was looking forward to a lot more Marquette games that weekend.

Also my freshman year Shreck the first's buzzer beating three to send the game to OT where they won has always left a bad taste in my mouth.

I was at that Big East tournament game sitting courtside as well (a buddy's dad worked for a sponsor). That's still my only trip to the Big East tourney. Such a let down.

Although I think I'm gonna go this year and seek my revenge
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 03:14:12 PM
Anyone still have the old "Marquette #1 Notre Dame (ahem the middle #1)" t shirt? That's something I wish I still did. A little something we say in our house ... FND!!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: swoopem on December 07, 2023, 03:18:12 PM
I have one that says Marquette Basketball on the front and on the back it says "Notre Dame is French for Our B!tch"

I used to wear it all the time and senior year, I think it was actually senior day, 2010 we played them at home and a ND fan came up to me at a bar on third street (probably Buck Bradley's) and asked me to take it off cuz it was offensive. He did not get his wish
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: swoopem on December 07, 2023, 03:18:12 PM
I have one that says Marquette Basketball on the front and on the back it says "Notre Dame is French for Our B!tch"

I used to wear it all the time and senior year, I think it was actually senior day, 2010 we played them at home and a ND fan came up to me at a bar on third street (probably Buck Bradley's) and asked me to take it off cuz it was offensive. He did not get his wish

I do remember seeing those over the years. Our generation was Marquette #1 on the front (a hand in the number one pose) and Notre Dame on the back with the middle fingered number one. It's a classic
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Viper on December 07, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
I hate ND. I hate Wisconsin more. Never used to be that way. Walmart Badger, I guess. Regardless...a little hate is...good!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: BrewCity83 on December 07, 2023, 03:49:43 PM
Notre Dame was our top #1 rival by far during my time at MU (the Hank Raymonds years).  That's why Doc Rivers' long buzzer beater was such a great memory.

Oh, and Kelly Tripucka.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: lawdog77 on December 07, 2023, 03:53:34 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-harangody-9822a3204?challengeId=AQElroapYp0WugAAAYxGQ4HE04A12fJCkVnsSRQzn0gb-AYCdH1_aA0lsvoKpN7Olp3ecxn_Qy44-Esglw67QhYZidQmspAyYg&submissionId=b7ce8575-23ab-9e17-317b-f5f0033c533b&challengeSource=AgHm6q75xUz0hwAAAYxGQ42YJ7GTpvCftKcy1Tt7pIX9EeC8lZpNsZYVkOiFdVk&challegeType=AgGeCYG9sVe0oAAAAYxGQ42bV7dhmcYBQHu-yW-woTIcfqQsD2fSEnI&memberId=AgGp1IpoQPL7IAAAAYxGQ42eHVzpvqzEjQy_gqbrKFuQ4hQ&recognizeDevice=AgEdRhlstF8dMwAAAYxGQ42hyrBmVQtXlhYePOTYiobyLx4yY09s (https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-harangody-9822a3204?challengeId=AQElroapYp0WugAAAYxGQ4HE04A12fJCkVnsSRQzn0gb-AYCdH1_aA0lsvoKpN7Olp3ecxn_Qy44-Esglw67QhYZidQmspAyYg&submissionId=b7ce8575-23ab-9e17-317b-f5f0033c533b&challengeSource=AgHm6q75xUz0hwAAAYxGQ42YJ7GTpvCftKcy1Tt7pIX9EeC8lZpNsZYVkOiFdVk&challegeType=AgGeCYG9sVe0oAAAAYxGQ42bV7dhmcYBQHu-yW-woTIcfqQsD2fSEnI&memberId=AgGp1IpoQPL7IAAAAYxGQ42eHVzpvqzEjQy_gqbrKFuQ4hQ&recognizeDevice=AgEdRhlstF8dMwAAAYxGQ42hyrBmVQtXlhYePOTYiobyLx4yY09s)

Apparently, his degree is in Civilization. His thesis was trying to identify the missing link. Turned out it was his grandfather.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 07, 2023, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 03:14:12 PM
Anyone still have the old "Marquette #1 Notre Dame (ahem the middle #1)" t shirt? That's something I wish I still did. A little something we say in our house ... FND!!

Someone stole mine from my apartment a month before graduation.  It just disappeared from my t-shirt drawer.  I was not happy.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Goose on December 07, 2023, 04:28:02 PM
Those were great T-shirts. Another one that I loved, not ND related, were the Bob Dukiet farewell tour shirts. Had dates and locations of the last ten games of final season.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Scoop Snoop on December 07, 2023, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 07, 2023, 03:57:50 PM
Someone stole mine from my apartment a month before graduation.  It just disappeared from my t-shirt drawer.  I was not happy.

So, you were not Happy. Were you Grumpy?
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 05:08:30 PM
Quote from: swoopem on December 07, 2023, 03:18:12 PM
I have one that says Marquette Basketball on the front and on the back it says "Notre Dame is French for Our B!tch"

I used to wear it all the time and senior year, I think it was actually senior day, 2010 we played them at home and a ND fan came up to me at a bar on third street (probably Buck Bradley's) and asked me to take it off cuz it was offensive.

Yeah, it could be argued that it's both misogynistic and anti-Catholic.

Plenty of better ways to insult the Domers.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: PointWarrior on December 07, 2023, 05:52:23 PM
I had one of those...

Quote from: Goose on December 07, 2023, 04:28:02 PM
Those were great T-shirts. Another one that I loved, not ND related, were the Bob Dukiet farewell tour shirts. Had dates and locations of the last ten games of final season.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: real chili 83 on December 07, 2023, 06:19:05 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 05:08:30 PM
Yeah, it could be argued that it's both misogynistic and anti-Catholic.

Plenty of better ways to insult the Domers.

Lighten up, Sally. All insults are fair game with ND.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 07, 2023, 06:19:05 PM
Lighten up, Sally. All insults are fair game with ND.

But are you really insulting Domers, or women and Catholics?

If we played Yeshiva University, would it be okay to wear a T-shirt that says, "Moses is my butt buddy?"

I am not being defensive; I am just a little surprised that you wouldn't get it.


Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: swoopem on December 07, 2023, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
But are you really insulting Domers, or women and Catholics?

If we played Yeshiva University, would it be okay to wear a T-shirt that says, "Moses is my butt buddy?"

I am not being defensive; I am just a little surprised that you wouldn't get it.

It's a t-shirt. Chill out
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 07, 2023, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: Viper on December 07, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
I hate ND. I hate Wisconsin more.

+1
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: garekis on December 07, 2023, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
But are you really insulting Domers, or women and Catholics?

If we played Yeshiva University, would it be okay to wear a T-shirt that says, "Moses is my butt buddy?"

I am not being defensive; I am just a little surprised that you wouldn't get it.




Nah, don't "chill out." You're absolutely right: that t-shirt should be mothballed. High tolerance for student humor, but that one is embarrassing. Offensive and not even clever. We're not Wisconsin Walmart.

That said, loved the #1 one back in the day. Funny and cutting.

Relatedly, some of Wisconsin's school-sponsored student signs and some of the chants ("unnatural carnal knowledge Marquette") in Madison on Saturday were shameful. Alas, the Kohl hole is just that. Low brow humor by some low class fans. And, of course, that made getting our asses handed to us that much more painful.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Skatastrophy on December 07, 2023, 07:10:19 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
But are you really insulting Domers, or women and Catholics?

If we played Yeshiva University, would it be okay to wear a T-shirt that says, "Moses is my butt buddy?"

I am not being defensive; I am just a little surprised that you wouldn't get it.


I get it. You're saying that real chili has butt buddies.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Farley36 on December 07, 2023, 07:15:32 PM
Does anyone who attended Marquette after the 70s and 80s really care about Notre Dame?   I know in the 90s I was told they were a rival but it never felt like that big of a rivalry.   I'd rate ND well below Wisconsin and many Big East teams on the rivalry scale.

Or maybe you have to be from Chicago to care?
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 07, 2023, 07:17:23 PM
We loathed ND back in the Al days as well. Cared more about beating them than even the Badgers
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 07:19:21 PM
I get that.   I never considered Wisconsin a rival because they always stunk and the game always took place during winter break.  It wasn't until internet message boards that I developed a dislike of the Badgers.    But, because we played ND twice a season and and were 0-8 while I was at MU, my hatred of them is deeper and more long lasting.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Daniel on December 07, 2023, 07:25:35 PM
Was at a Marquette - ND game in Milwaukee and there were a bunch on ND women fans with tshirts that said: Notre Dame sucks...but Marquette swallows.   

Wow

I hate ND for lots of reasons.  I was looking for graduate schools and went to tour ND.  The priest who took us around was smug and arrogant.   Then, sitting around 8n a room he asked each in the tour what university they were graduating from.    I said Loyola University in  Chicago, and he basically rolled his eyes and grunted or something so I defended Loyola.   Then he quote ps this poem that makes a point that sometimes things are like a diamond in the rough.  He quotes a stanza and he is wrong on the quote.  Way off.  I knew the poem, by Thomas Gray, and I corrected him by reciting  the full stanza and he says, "Apparently they teach literature at Loyola."  I got up and said, "apparently better than they do at Norte Dame!"  And I walked out.   Went to Marquette!  Go Marquette!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 07, 2023, 07:30:54 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 07:19:21 PM
I get that.   I never considered Wisconsin a rival because they always stunk and the game always took place during winter break.  It wasn't until internet message boards that I developed a dislike of the Badgers.    But, because we played ND twice a season and and were 0-8 while I was at MU, my hatred of them is deeper and more long lasting.


Exactly how I feel.  Only difference is, we were much better during my 4 years- we were only 0-6 (class of 86).  😂

Went to two of the 3 games in SB too.  Just awful. 

Went to the game last year, and it was one of the best moments of my fandom when we "we are Marquetted" them in their own gym. Going again Saturday (this time with Domer son - a bday present from him; he started at ND the year after the BE breakup, so this will be the first MU- ND game for us).
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Skatastrophy on December 07, 2023, 07:36:29 PM
I made the trip to South Bend in 2012 and I did not have a great time. Sad town, rough game.

Their fans are weird. They had all of these prepared chants for while the game was on TV, but during breaks they all sat down and talked quietly amongst themselves. It was like I was on a tv set
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2023, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: Farley36 on December 07, 2023, 07:15:32 PM
Does anyone who attended Marquette after the 70s and 80s really care about Notre Dame?   I know in the 90s I was told they were a rival but it never felt like that big of a rivalry.   I'd rate ND well below Wisconsin and many Big East teams on the rivalry scale.

Or maybe you have to be from Chicago to care?

I'd have considered them on par with Wisconsin from 08-13.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 07, 2023, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 07, 2023, 03:53:34 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-harangody-9822a3204?challengeId=AQElroapYp0WugAAAYxGQ4HE04A12fJCkVnsSRQzn0gb-AYCdH1_aA0lsvoKpN7Olp3ecxn_Qy44-Esglw67QhYZidQmspAyYg&submissionId=b7ce8575-23ab-9e17-317b-f5f0033c533b&challengeSource=AgHm6q75xUz0hwAAAYxGQ42YJ7GTpvCftKcy1Tt7pIX9EeC8lZpNsZYVkOiFdVk&challegeType=AgGeCYG9sVe0oAAAAYxGQ42bV7dhmcYBQHu-yW-woTIcfqQsD2fSEnI&memberId=AgGp1IpoQPL7IAAAAYxGQ42eHVzpvqzEjQy_gqbrKFuQ4hQ&recognizeDevice=AgEdRhlstF8dMwAAAYxGQ42hyrBmVQtXlhYePOTYiobyLx4yY09s (https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-harangody-9822a3204?challengeId=AQElroapYp0WugAAAYxGQ4HE04A12fJCkVnsSRQzn0gb-AYCdH1_aA0lsvoKpN7Olp3ecxn_Qy44-Esglw67QhYZidQmspAyYg&submissionId=b7ce8575-23ab-9e17-317b-f5f0033c533b&challengeSource=AgHm6q75xUz0hwAAAYxGQ42YJ7GTpvCftKcy1Tt7pIX9EeC8lZpNsZYVkOiFdVk&challegeType=AgGeCYG9sVe0oAAAAYxGQ42bV7dhmcYBQHu-yW-woTIcfqQsD2fSEnI&memberId=AgGp1IpoQPL7IAAAAYxGQ42eHVzpvqzEjQy_gqbrKFuQ4hQ&recognizeDevice=AgEdRhlstF8dMwAAAYxGQ42hyrBmVQtXlhYePOTYiobyLx4yY09s)

Apparently, his degree is in Civilization. His thesis was trying to identify the missing link. Turned out it was his grandfather.
Now that deserves a chuckle.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: mubb3434 on December 07, 2023, 08:19:44 PM
Last year in South Bend, I witnessed an older ND fan grab a kid (probably 12 years old) by the shirt for standing too much...Can't stand that school. I want a 30 point win.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: real chili 83 on December 07, 2023, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
But are you really insulting Domers, or women and Catholics?

If we played Yeshiva University, would it be okay to wear a T-shirt that says, "Moses is my butt buddy?"

I am not being defensive; I am just a little surprised that you wouldn't get it.

Chick, lighten up. Just gigging you.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: real chili 83 on December 07, 2023, 08:41:08 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 07, 2023, 08:37:18 PM
Chick, lighten up. Just gigging you.

For the record, a stupid shirt.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: panda on December 07, 2023, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on December 07, 2023, 05:08:30 PM
Yeah, it could be argued that it's both misogynistic and anti-Catholic.

Plenty of better ways to insult the Domers.

Sounds like something a notre dame fan would say
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 07, 2023, 10:10:48 PM
While we're down in the overall series by a large margin (38-81) we're 12-12 since Kevin O'Neil.

Hank was 3-3 against ND

Al was 5-3

Hickey 1-1

Don't need to talk about Nagle let alone Dukiet & Majerus who really struggled
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: pbiflyer on December 07, 2023, 10:50:46 PM
Long before I ever knew much about Marquette , I hated Notre Dame. Our high school had a single football coach for the first 40 years of its existence and he was a notre dame alum, one that Al so aptly described. You either embraced his and Notre who or you hated them...both. I grew up on the hating side.
I was a freshman along with Doc, so the first year was heaven.
Subsequently in the 83-84 season we road tripped out to South Bend, same year they made it a dry campus there. We of course still tailgated pre game. A ton of ND fans told us we couldn't do that here. We told them "No, learn proper English. We may not be allowed to do this here, but in fact we are indeed doing it." Unfortunately Marquette got their butts beat that day.
Looking forward to an in person revenge game Saturday.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
Fortunately, we went 3-1 vs ND during my time at MU -- including my favorite in-person Marquette shot ever, Glenn Rivers' buzzer-beater.

ND was very hate-able, led by the punchable Kelly Tripucka.

Wisconsin was a non-entity back then, and for many years after that.

Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 06:09:03 AM
Quote from: Daniel on December 07, 2023, 07:25:35 PM
Was at a Marquette - ND game in Milwaukee and there were a bunch on ND women fans with tshirts that said: Notre Dame sucks...but Marquette swallows.   

Wow

I hate ND for lots of reasons.  I was looking for graduate schools and went to tour ND.  The priest who took us around was smug and arrogant.   Then, sitting around 8n a room he asked each in the tour what university they were graduating from.    I said Loyola University in  Chicago, and he basically rolled his eyes and grunted or something so I defended Loyola.   Then he quote ps this poem that makes a point that sometimes things are like a diamond in the rough.  He quotes a stanza and he is wrong on the quote.  Way off.  I knew the poem, by Thomas Gray, and I corrected him by reciting  the full stanza and he says, "Apparently they teach literature at Loyola."  I got up and said, "apparently better than they do at Norte Dame!"  And I walked out.   Went to Marquette!  Go Marquette!

  great story danny...well played!!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 06:18:04 AM
Quote from: Farley36 on December 07, 2023, 07:15:32 PM
Does anyone who attended Marquette after the 70s and 80s really care about Notre Dame?   I know in the 90s I was told they were a rival but it never felt like that big of a rivalry.   I'd rate ND well below Wisconsin and many Big East teams on the rivalry scale.

Or maybe you have to be from Chicago to care?

  back in the day before we joined a conference, the independent days, notre dame depaul, loyola of chicago, detroit mercy were all despised, but we HATED ND .  not sure what made them so arrogant because they put their under britches on one leg atta time...if they wore any at all
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 06:32:45 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 07, 2023, 08:41:08 PM
For the record, a stupid shirt.

  sounds like someone doesn't like the association of her gender partaking in aforementioned activity and taking it to completion eyn'a?
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 08, 2023, 07:19:33 AM
Had a friend who graduated from ND.
Visited him one weekend.  Saw a ND vs Army FB game.
My takeaway was very isolated.
The exact opposite of Marquette.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:28:13 AM
ND does not consider us a rival. Period. This thread is embarrassing. Wisconsin only matters to cheds. IMO the team to hate is Seton Hall, followed closely by UConn.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 08, 2023, 07:42:32 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 06:32:45 AM
  sounds like someone doesn't like the association of her gender partaking in aforementioned activity and taking it to completion eyn'a?

you sure are strange
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 08, 2023, 07:51:34 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:28:13 AM
ND does not consider us a rival. Period. This thread is embarrassing. Wisconsin only matters to cheds. IMO the team to hate is Seton Hall, followed closely by UConn.
Maybe MU needs to run off a string of 10 consecutive wins against ND.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 08, 2023, 07:55:55 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:28:13 AM
ND does not consider us a rival. Period. This thread is embarrassing. Wisconsin only matters to cheds. IMO the team to hate is Seton Hall, followed closely by UConn.

ND 100% saw us as their rival in the old Big East. And given their (not very active) forum mentions digger and Al in the comments the old timers definitely remember the independent days. But yes there's 10yrs of students who don't have a clue that we were Big East rivals.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:59:43 AM
I graduated with Vic Lazzeretti and am totally ambivalent towards ND. I definitely want MU to win but am much more interested in somehow getting Ed Cooley to wear a damn hat.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: lawdog77 on December 08, 2023, 08:00:11 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 08, 2023, 07:55:55 AM
ND 100% saw us as their rival in the old Big East. And given their (not very active) forum mentions digger and Al in the comments the old timers definitely remember the independent days. But yes there's 10yrs of students who don't have a clue that were Big East rivals.
Who would ND consider a mutual rival? I'm not sure anyone other than us think they are a rival.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 08, 2023, 08:01:56 AM
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 08, 2023, 08:00:11 AM
Who would ND consider a mutual rival? I'm not sure anyone other than us think they are a rival.

In basketball? Now days probably nobody. But I don't think it's unfair to say that there's an awful long stretch where they would've called us a mutual rival and it's fine playing the game in honor of those days.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 08:12:36 AM
Using that logic I would say that Cincinnati is a bigger rival. Those battles with Huggy Bear were epic.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: BLWarrior91 on December 08, 2023, 08:16:49 AM
Digger was a big part of our hatred from that era.

Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: dgies9156 on December 08, 2023, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:28:13 AM
ND does not consider us a rival. Period. This thread is embarrassing. Wisconsin only matters to cheds. IMO the team to hate is Seton Hall, followed closely by UConn.

Interesting. I grew up in Nashville and as such, Wisconsin was a mild irritant. That and we beat Wisconsin all four years I was at Marquette. Notre Dame was a rival and in my day, we were a basketball rival of the Irish because we both were really good.

For me, we played Tennessee in the early 1970s. I had dozens of obnoxious Vol fans who thought their team was far better than the Vols really were. We kicked their asses in Milwaukee and won in overtime is in Knoxville. Likewise, we played Vanderbilt for the first time in the 1974 Mideast regional. That was a rivalry. Of course, we won! But the games we played years later in Nashville and in Milwaukee were, to put it mildly, painful!

If Digger was a reason we hated the Irish, Al was a reason NDers hated Marquette!

If we want ND to be a rivalry again, start playing them more often.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 08, 2023, 08:19:23 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 08:12:36 AM
Using that logic I would say that Cincinnati is a bigger rival. Those battles with Huggy Bear were epic.

I'd disagree but I can respect that take same with Louisville. I don't think either invalidates the history and rivalry with ND though. When I was a student (09-14) there were two teams that students would basically camp out/show up at the crack of dawn for Wisconsin and ND. Not Louisville or Cincy. What that says to me is that for at least half the old Big East era we were a part of that the student body considered ND a rivalry on par with WI not Ville or Cincy.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 08:22:06 AM
I guess my ND hate has diminished after 30+ years on the west coast. Another way to look at it is if we could add one more long-term home and away series, who would you like to see? I would have no problem with ND but might prefer Illinois.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 08, 2023, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 08:12:36 AM
Using that logic I would say that Cincinnati is a bigger rival. Those battles with Huggy Bear were epic.
How about Rick Pitino and Louisville?
We get Rick again but with St. John.
Rick must like red uniforms.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MUfan12 on December 08, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
As long as MU students keep getting rejected by ND, it'll be a rivalry.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: vogue65 on December 08, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
I'm back.
ND hate is a great motivator.

FIRST, back in the day, Al wouldn't play ND because they wanted most of our gate.  ( I don't recall, 80/20, 90/10 whatever)  They wanted most of the money because they said their name would sell lots of tickets and bring in $$$.  Then when we went to South Bend they wanted the same split.  However, the deal was that most the their ticket sales were to students at student discount prices.  They are such a class act.  With ND it is all about the money.

SECOND, during the football season they were not to be seen in Milwaukee.  Then in winter they would show up trolling for dates.

Hope that doesn't sound too misogynistic.  Back then ND was all male, talk about misogynistic.

Does anyone remember the Fordham ND game at the garden, probably around 1972.?  We played in the second game.  A Fordham fan threw a big dead fish at ND and Digger.  It spun around on the court and expressed well the feelings of the Fordham fans toward ND. 

I have been reading our blog, but not involved because it got dangerous for me.  The new tone, although still spicy, is IMO much better.

I turned 80, senior years 1965 and 1966.  Good health, I don't smoke and gave up the drink 46 years ago.  My days tending bar at the Vogue, across the Avenue from the library, will always remain with me.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 08, 2023, 08:59:33 AM
Glad to have you back Vogue!  Thanks for your perspective.  Didn't realize that happened with the gate at MU ND games. Glad we did not comply.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 08, 2023, 08:59:57 AM
Game was the first to sell out. 'Nuff said.

Yet, between ND, DePaul or Georgetown, it will be a toss up which formal rival hurts our NET rating the most?  #sleepinggiants

Btw, looking back, have any of the OBE Iscariots improved their football or basketball programs since their slinky midnight departures? 
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2023, 09:18:23 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:59:43 AM
I graduated with Vic Lazzeretti and am totally ambivalent towards ND. I definitely want MU to win but am much more interested in somehow getting Ed Cooley to wear a damn hat.

Cmon dude. The man has a medical condition,  don't mane fun of him for that
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 08, 2023, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2023, 09:18:23 AM
Cmon dude. The man has a medical condition,  don't mane fun of him for that

Score
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: HowardsWorld on December 08, 2023, 09:34:10 AM
Marquette needs to win by 20+ so that it does not hurt the net rankings
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 09:40:13 AM
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on December 08, 2023, 07:42:32 AM
you sure are strange

That's one way to put it.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 08, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
As long as MU students keep getting rejected by ND, it'll be a rivalry.

Had zero interest in applying to ND.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 08, 2023, 09:51:58 AM
Quote from: vogue65 on December 08, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
I'm back.
ND hate is a great motivator.

FIRST, back in the day, Al wouldn't play ND because they wanted most of our gate.  ( I don't recall, 80/20, 90/10 whatever)  They wanted most of the money because they said their name would sell lots of tickets and bring in $$$.  Then when we went to South Bend they wanted the same split.  However, the deal was that most the their ticket sales were to students at student discount prices.  They are such a class act.  With ND it is all about the money.

SECOND, during the football season they were not to be seen in Milwaukee.  Then in winter they would show up trolling for dates.

Hope that doesn't sound too misogynistic.  Back then ND was all male, talk about misogynistic.

Does anyone remember the Fordham ND game at the garden, probably around 1972.?  We played in the second game.  A Fordham fan threw a big dead fish at ND and Digger.  It spun around on the court and expressed well the feelings of the Fordham fans toward ND. 

I have been reading our blog, but not involved because it got dangerous for me.  The new tone, although still spicy, is IMO much better.

I turned 80, senior years 1965 and 1966.  Good health, I don't smoke and gave up the drink 46 years ago.  My days tending bar at the Vogue, across the Avenue from the library, will always remain with me.
Thank you for the history.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 08, 2023, 09:54:12 AM
My parents were huge ND fans. Traveled with football yearly. I said No Way
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 08, 2023, 10:01:32 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Had zero interest in applying to ND.

Same, but the perception is certainly there.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 08, 2023, 10:25:54 AM
Pregame events. Sultan will be hosting the B&G event.

https://alumni.marquette.edu/mbb-vs-notre-dame-2023
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU82 on December 08, 2023, 10:33:24 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Had zero interest in applying to ND.

ND and Madison were my safety schools.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: BrewCity83 on December 08, 2023, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: PJDunn on December 08, 2023, 07:59:43 AM
I graduated with Vic Lazzeretti and am totally ambivalent towards ND. I definitely want MU to win but am much more interested in somehow getting Ed Cooley to wear a damn hat.

I could see Cooley in a porkpie hat on the bench.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Goose on December 08, 2023, 10:51:28 AM
My feelings on this being a big rivalry game has diminished a great deal over the past 5+ years. Still do not like ND but there are far more teams I would prefer to beat than ND. I am excited for a sellout tomorrow and going to the game with family and expecting a blowout. Again, there is very little I like about ND and that have not changed, just not a top rival for me.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Jay Bee on December 08, 2023, 11:19:54 AM
Quote from: MU82 on December 08, 2023, 10:33:24 AM
ND and Madison were my safety schools.

Wat is ur safety word tho
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on December 08, 2023, 07:42:32 AM
you sure are strange

  ride the bus francis
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 08, 2023, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 11:25:23 AM
  ride the bus francis

3.5 out of 10
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU82 on December 08, 2023, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 08, 2023, 11:19:54 AM
Wat is ur safety word tho

blk%
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: JWags85 on December 08, 2023, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: Daniel on December 07, 2023, 07:25:35 PM
I hate ND for lots of reasons.  I was looking for graduate schools and went to tour ND.  The priest who took us around was smug and arrogant.   Then, sitting around 8n a room he asked each in the tour what university they were graduating from.    I said Loyola University in  Chicago, and he basically rolled his eyes and grunted or something so I defended Loyola.   Then he quote ps this poem that makes a point that sometimes things are like a diamond in the rough.  He quotes a stanza and he is wrong on the quote.  Way off.  I knew the poem, by Thomas Gray, and I corrected him by reciting  the full stanza and he says, "Apparently they teach literature at Loyola."  I got up and said, "apparently better than they do at Norte Dame!"  And I walked out.   Went to Marquette!  Go Marquette!

This is the kind of story that is so absurd on first read that you assume it's fake, until you actually know ND alum/cultists.

I had a former coworker that looked into ND for his MBA.  Got accepted and did tour and whatnot.  Didn't love ND but knew and valued their alumni network.  During the tour, not sure if it was a priest or other admin, asked if anyone had looked at ND for undergrad.  Coworker mentioned he had gotten in but went to Michigan instead.  Guy was legit taken aback and said something along the lines of "UM must have offered a near full ride?"  Coworker told him he paid full tuition and was from upstate NY, so not instate either.  The exchange ended with the TOTALLY necessary explanation to everyone else that ND was naturally the dream school for nearly all applicants so it was surprising  :o

Had another friend of a friend in my mid 20s that was about as insane an ND alum as you'd find.  He delayed a Big 4 accounting career a year to stay in South Bend and work at the University, and then when he started working at Deloitte, he legitimately contemplated living in SB and commuting.  In his late 20s, with a good job and plenty of income living in an amazing city like Chicago, he routinely talked about missing South Bend.  Not just the campus, the actual dump that is South Bend.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Newsdreams on December 08, 2023, 01:17:04 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 08, 2023, 11:25:23 AM
  ride the bus francis
Typical dentist
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Shaka Shart on December 08, 2023, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Had zero interest in applying to ND.

Halfway through the application just because everyone else from the high school was doing it, realized "why bother, no one from my family went there and I already don't like them" and moved on.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Viper on December 08, 2023, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
Fortunately, we went 3-1 vs ND during my time at MU -- including my favorite in-person Marquette shot ever, Glenn Rivers' buzzer-beater.

ND was very hate-able, led by the punchable Kelly Tripucka.

Wisconsin was a non-entity back then, and for many years after that.
100%. I was there too. MECCA went absolutely crazy with that shot!!! ...and yeah, UW was a non-entity. I even played HS ball with a guy that ended-up being All Big Ten for RED. My RED hate came later...ND hate, always!!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Viper on December 08, 2023, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: vogue65 on December 08, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
I'm back.
ND hate is a great motivator.

FIRST, back in the day, Al wouldn't play ND because they wanted most of our gate.  ( I don't recall, 80/20, 90/10 whatever)  They wanted most of the money because they said their name would sell lots of tickets and bring in $$$.  Then when we went to South Bend they wanted the same split.  However, the deal was that most the their ticket sales were to students at student discount prices.  They are such a class act.  With ND it is all about the money.

SECOND, during the football season they were not to be seen in Milwaukee.  Then in winter they would show up trolling for dates.

Hope that doesn't sound too misogynistic.  Back then ND was all male, talk about misogynistic.

Does anyone remember the Fordham ND game at the garden, probably around 1972.?  We played in the second game.  A Fordham fan threw a big dead fish at ND and Digger.  It spun around on the court and expressed well the feelings of the Fordham fans toward ND. 

I have been reading our blog, but not involved because it got dangerous for me.  The new tone, although still spicy, is IMO much better.

I turned 80, senior years 1965 and 1966.  Good health, I don't smoke and gave up the drink 46 years ago.  My days tending bar at the Vogue, across the Avenue from the library, will always remain with me.
great stuff !!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 08, 2023, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: NCMUFan on December 08, 2023, 07:19:33 AM
Had a friend who graduated from ND.
Visited him one weekend.  Saw a ND vs Army FB game.
My takeaway was very isolated.
The exact opposite of Marquette.

While I was a student, one of MU friends had a brother at ND and I had a friend from high school who attended so on two different occasions we filled a car on Friday night and 5 of us went down to watch an ND football game.  One of the games was the Catholic vs Convict games against Miami.  After ND won the game, we figured there would be a big celebration because that's what Marquette students would do.  There were no parties to be found anywhere and it was very lame, so we just decided to drive back Saturday evening and celebrate later Saturday evening after returning to Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 08, 2023, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 08, 2023, 03:28:24 PM
While I was a student, one of MU friends had a brother at ND and I had a friend from high school who attended so on two different occasions we filled a car on Friday night and 5 of us went down to watch an ND football game.  One of the games was the Catholic vs Convict games against Miami.  After ND won the game, we figured there would be a big celebration because that's what Marquette students would do.  There were no parties to be found anywhere and it was very lame, so we just decided to drive back Saturday evening and celebrate later Saturday evening after returning to Milwaukee.

I was at the same game.  It was lame afterward.  Huge difference between the schools.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MUbiz on December 08, 2023, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 08, 2023, 03:28:24 PM
While I was a student, one of MU friends had a brother at ND and I had a friend from high school who attended so on two different occasions we filled a car on Friday night and 5 of us went down to watch an ND football game.  One of the games was the Catholic vs Convict games against Miami.  After ND won the game, we figured there would be a big celebration because that's what Marquette students would do.  There were no parties to be found anywhere and it was very lame, so we just decided to drive back Saturday evening and celebrate later Saturday evening after returning to Milwaukee.

I had a similar experience - bunch of us MU guys drove down to watch unranked ND beat number 8 Michigan in South Bend and we were going to stay the night and party. We ended up driving home back to Milwaukee that night because campus was dead after the game. 2 of the MU guys actually were accepted into ND and they felt validated they did not go to ND after that experience. LOL
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Farley36 on December 08, 2023, 03:49:51 PM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 08, 2023, 08:19:23 AM
I'd disagree but I can respect that take same with Louisville. I don't think either invalidates the history and rivalry with ND though. When I was a student (09-14) there were two teams that students would basically camp out/show up at the crack of dawn for Wisconsin and ND. Not Louisville or Cincy. What that says to me is that for at least half the old Big East era we were a part of that the student body considered ND a rivalry on par with WI not Ville or Cincy.

Having attended MU in the 90s I thought of WI, Cincy, and Louisville as the biggest rivals at that time.   I think we played ND a couple years I was there but honestly don't remember.   Definitely remember those Cincy teams though. 
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: We R Final Four on December 08, 2023, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
MU was 0-8 against ND while I was in school.   David F-ing Rivers.     The only good thing that happened against ND while I was in school was someone accidentally losing control of their beer near Digger.     Beer was a lot cheaper then.    I caught MU-ND in South Bend during in December of 2002.   ND stomped MU.    Not only that, they were handing out sheets full of what they thought were embarrassing things about the MU players.    ND is the school I hate, far more than Wisconsin.        I want to see MU with another 30 point lead and the walk ons finishing the game.
I will be there and hoping the same and will be cheering for Tower if this happens! You have earned it.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: oilcan on December 08, 2023, 07:02:10 PM
I remember Al McQuire saying you could always recognize a Notre Dame alumni because he would pick his nose just to show off his class ring.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: oilcan on December 08, 2023, 07:11:37 PM
I know- I spelled Al's name wrong. Forgive me. I had five beers and the meds are kicking in. Al would forgive me, I'm sure. And Pat would say, "Isn't that funny, Al, I thought you were Irish. McQuire?
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: 79Warrior on December 08, 2023, 10:14:54 PM
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on December 07, 2023, 07:17:23 PM
We loathed ND back in the Al days as well. Cared more about beating them than even the Badgers

No question. ND and Louisville were the biggies in my day.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Johnny B on December 08, 2023, 10:15:45 PM
That line is wild... damn
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Viper on December 09, 2023, 08:02:25 AM
Quote from: Viper on December 08, 2023, 01:44:40 PM
100%. I was there too. MECCA went absolutely crazy with that shot!!! ...and yeah, UW was a non-entity. I even played HS ball with a guy that ended-up being All Big Ten for RED. My RED hate came later...ND hate, always!!
Michael Wilson after Doc hit the shot. MECCA rocked!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorchick on December 09, 2023, 08:08:56 AM
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 08, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
As long as MU students keep getting rejected by ND, it'll be a rivalry.

Back in the stone age when I was applying to colleges, you picked up a brochure from the guidance counselor's office and mailed an attached postcard to the school to get more information. These were usually postage-paid, but Notre Dame was the only school whose postcard required a stamp.

Even as a 17-year-old, I realized what arrogant bullish!t that was.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: 88Warrior on December 09, 2023, 08:25:45 AM
ND was by far biggest rival in 80's. Digger was pompous a$$ and the MU students would let him know how they felt. 
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-03-01-8701170173-story.html

The program was in tatters but Dukiet knew he needed to stand up to Digger because the hate level was so high.

This article tells you how bad things were and mentions the first time an Ellenson
walked out.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/1988/01/15/home-court-no-mecca-for-marquette/
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: 88Warrior on December 09, 2023, 08:32:37 AM
No mention of possibly one of the best MU Bradley Center memories?

https://gomarquette.com/news/2006/2/13/Novak_s_Last_Second_Basket_Downs_Notre_Dame_67_65
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2023, 09:17:56 AM
All Time Hated ND team

1. Tripukewad (Had the shitz at the Mecca)
2. Hagrid (ND PR machine pumped him as the great white hope, got benched senior year.  Got every call by Hightower and Drama Teddy who seemed to ref every one of their games)
3. Lamebeard (Dirty, puked his guts out at MU after party. Weak)
4. Cooley High (Sharp elbows, stepped under shooters on drives)
5. Hubris Garpax (Righteous jag who hit daggers. Good announcer, pompous and abusive boss)

Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 09:22:38 AM
it was 1980, my first year at MU.
had brought our family's second vehicle from Jersey to WI at the holiday break-
'76 Chevy Vega Kamback... manual- ran basically on 3 of the 4 cylinders.

McCormick pal Britty was from Kettering, OH and had a bunch o' pals who went to ND.
we played ND at the Joyce, February- cold and nasty.
Vega had little to no heat complementing the lack of any zip from the engine whatsoever.

regardless, we crammed a crap ton of guys-  in the back of the Vega, backseat down and splayed head to toe, toe to head... squeezed in necessities like Strohs, Hamms or whatever was cheap along with enough clothes not to stink too badly and off we went.

Britty had us set up with some pals in the dorms- 
guys were stiff, girls were preppy beyond comprehension.
they did not know what to think or do with guys named Chester the Molester, Animal, Lurch, Boston Bob or C-dell Ball.  borderline appalled, I'm going with.

still, we were promised a great party and they had the 12pak to prove it.
3 minutes and 12 empties later, we were off to find a bar and a Denny's or something.
plenty of Denny-like places... not so much on the bar front.
managed to survive the night in our Warriors gear with mostly sneers and down-the-nose looks.

game day- Britty scored tickets, but none of us knew the campus or how Joyce was situated.
found the facility, but no clue how to get in, especially with the big ass Foster's Lager cans shoved in our winter coats.
saw a pack of big dudes heading toward an entrance of sorts, so our posse just hooked up and followed along.  some angry oldish dude was leading the procession.
we were led to a service door I guess and just kept going.
Chester, blitzed since 10am, starting laughing and freaking out some- Britty pummeled him good.

Got to the door, Old guy waved to the security guard-
guard says, hey Coach... Faust.
we waltzed right in.
so a handful of drunken MU students, ratty, smelly and only athletic/bulky looking cause we had on massive parkas with huge beer cans shoved in every pocket, cruised into the arena as prized ND Football recruits with one of the most recognizable college coaches in the biz.
the irony was just too much...

icing on the cake that we got to enjoy Dean Marquardt's best game of his life in taking down the hated leprauchauns sitting in the middle of the student section- way to score those tickets, Britty!
empty Foster cans rolling down toward the court finally was enough to get us booted, but the victory was sealed and we did more than our part.

the dormsters weren't happy we returned, but lightened up when we said we'd take care of the beer that night-
you'd think that they'd never seen beer kegs before when we rolled them out of the Vega into the hall.
a 12 pak?  right.

bonus memory-
I believe it was the next day... Olympics- Miracle on Ice- legendary call by Al Michaels.
all in all, a great weekend and college memory.
and the Vega got us back to Milwaukee.

Veni, vidi, vici

Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 09, 2023, 09:29:30 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2023, 09:17:56 AM
All Time Hated ND team

1. Tripukewad (Had the crapz at the Mecca)
2. Hagrid (ND PR machine pumped him as the great white hope, got benched senior year.  Got every call by Hightower and Drama Teddy who seemed to ref every one of their games)
3. Lamebeard (Dirty, puked his guts out at MU after party. Weak)
4. Cooley High (Sharp elbows, stepped under shooters on drives)
5. Hubris Garpax (Righteous jag who hit daggers. Good announcer, pompous and abusive boss)

Tripucka
Joe Fredrick - always played MU well
Tim Kempton
Jim Dolan - broke my heart with his '86 tip in, we went on to lose in OT.
David Rivers - broken heart again his freshman year at MECCA.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 09, 2023, 09:40:19 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2023, 09:17:56 AM
All Time Hated ND team

1. Tripukewad (Had the crapz at the Mecca)
2. Hagrid (ND PR machine pumped him as the great white hope, got benched senior year.  Got every call by Hightower and Drama Teddy who seemed to ref every one of their games)
3. Lamebeard (Dirty, puked his guts out at MU after party. Weak)
4. Cooley High (Sharp elbows, stepped under shooters on drives)
5. Hubris Garpax (Righteous jag who hit daggers. Good announcer, pompous and abusive boss)

I'm unable to decode who Cooley High and Hagrid are.

*ok got who Cooley is
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: real chili 83 on December 09, 2023, 09:46:05 AM
Quote from: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 09:22:38 AM
it was 1980, my first year at MU.
had brought our family's second vehicle from Jersey to WI at the holiday break-
'76 Chevy Vega Kamback... manual- ran basically on 3 of the 4 cylinders.

McCormick pal Britty was from Kettering, OH and had a bunch o' pals who went to ND.
we played ND at the Joyce, February- cold and nasty.
Vega had little to no heat complementing the lack of any zip from the engine whatsoever.

regardless, we crammed a crap ton of guys-  in the back of the Vega, backseat down and splayed head to toe, toe to head... squeezed in necessities like Strohs, Hamms or whatever was cheap along with enough clothes not to stink too badly and off we went.

Britty had us set up with some pals in the dorms- 
guys were stiff, girls were preppy beyond comprehension.
they did not know what to think or do with guys named Chester the Molester, Animal, Lurch, Boston Bob or C-dell Ball.  borderline appalled, I'm going with.

still, we were promised a great party and they had the 12pak to prove it.
3 minutes and 12 empties later, we were off to find a bar and a Denny's or something.
plenty of Denny-like places... not so much on the bar front.
managed to survive the night in our Warriors gear with mostly sneers and down-the-nose looks.

game day- Britty scored tickets, but none of us knew the campus or how Joyce was situated.
found the facility, but no clue how to get in, especially with the big ass Foster's Lager cans shoved in our winter coats.
saw a pack of big dudes heading toward an entrance of sorts, so our posse just hooked up and followed along.  some angry oldish dude was leading the procession.
we were led to a service door I guess and just kept going.
Chester, blitzed since 10am, starting laughing and freaking out some- Britty pummeled him good.

Got to the door, Old guy waved to the security guard-
guard says, hey Coach... Faust.
we waltzed right in.
so a handful of drunken MU students, ratty, smelly and only athletic/bulky looking cause we had on massive parkas with huge beer cans shoved in every pocket, cruised into the arena as prized ND Football recruits with one of the most recognizable college coaches in the biz.
the irony was just too much...

icing on the cake that we got to enjoy Dean Marquardt's best game of his life in taking down the hated leprauchauns sitting in the middle of the student section- way to score those tickets, Britty!
empty Foster cans rolling down toward the court finally was enough to get us booted, but the victory was sealed and we did more than our part.

the dormsters weren't happy we returned, but lightened up when we said we'd take care of the beer that night-
you'd think that they'd never seen beer kegs before when we rolled them out of the Vega into the hall.
a 12 pak?  right.

bonus memory-
I believe it was the next day... Olympics- Miracle on Ice- legendary call by Al Michaels.
all in all, a great weekend and college memory.
and the Vega got us back to Milwaukee.

Veni, vidi, vici

Yo
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: AZWarrior on December 09, 2023, 09:49:18 AM
My faves:

Digger eats quiche! (poster at a ND game)

Notre who?  (T-shirt)
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 09, 2023, 09:53:10 AM
Videos and photos of past Notre Dame highlights on Marquette Overload today!

www.twitter.com/muoverload
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 09, 2023, 09:53:42 AM
we are 21.5 point favs


   is notre dame that bad or are we that good??  i mean realistically.  don't think i've ever seen us as big a favorite vs a school with the reputation it has...other than the hate stuff
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2023, 09:58:52 AM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 09, 2023, 09:40:19 AM
I'm unable to decode who Cooley High and Hagrid are.

*ok got who Cooley is
This good-looker.
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Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: HutchwasClutch on December 09, 2023, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2023, 09:58:52 AM
This good-looker.
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Who is Hagrid then??
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: vogue65 on December 09, 2023, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 09:22:38 AM
it was 1980, my first year at MU.
had brought our family's second vehicle from Jersey to WI at the holiday break-
'76 Chevy Vega Kamback... manual- ran basically on 3 of the 4 cylinders.

McCormick pal Britty was from Kettering, OH and had a bunch o' pals who went to ND.
we played ND at the Joyce, February- cold and nasty.
Vega had little to no heat complementing the lack of any zip from the engine whatsoever.

regardless, we crammed a crap ton of guys-  in the back of the Vega, backseat down and splayed head to toe, toe to head... squeezed in necessities like Strohs, Hamms or whatever was cheap along with enough clothes not to stink too badly and off we went.

Britty had us set up with some pals in the dorms- 
guys were stiff, girls were preppy beyond comprehension.
they did not know what to think or do with guys named Chester the Molester, Animal, Lurch, Boston Bob or C-dell Ball.  borderline appalled, I'm going with.

still, we were promised a great party and they had the 12pak to prove it.
3 minutes and 12 empties later, we were off to find a bar and a Denny's or something.
plenty of Denny-like places... not so much on the bar front.
managed to survive the night in our Warriors gear with mostly sneers and down-the-nose looks.

game day- Britty scored tickets, but none of us knew the campus or how Joyce was situated.
found the facility, but no clue how to get in, especially with the big ass Foster's Lager cans shoved in our winter coats.
saw a pack of big dudes heading toward an entrance of sorts, so our posse just hooked up and followed along.  some angry oldish dude was leading the procession.
we were led to a service door I guess and just kept going.
Chester, blitzed since 10am, starting laughing and freaking out some- Britty pummeled him good.

Got to the door, Old guy waved to the security guard-
guard says, hey Coach... Faust.
we waltzed right in.
so a handful of drunken MU students, ratty, smelly and only athletic/bulky looking cause we had on massive parkas with huge beer cans shoved in every pocket, cruised into the arena as prized ND Football recruits with one of the most recognizable college coaches in the biz.
the irony was just too much...

icing on the cake that we got to enjoy Dean Marquardt's best game of his life in taking down the hated leprauchauns sitting in the middle of the student section- way to score those tickets, Britty!
empty Foster cans rolling down toward the court finally was enough to get us booted, but the victory was sealed and we did more than our part.

the dormsters weren't happy we returned, but lightened up when we said we'd take care of the beer that night-
you'd think that they'd never seen beer kegs before when we rolled them out of the Vega into the hall.
a 12 pak?  right.

bonus memory-
I believe it was the next day... Olympics- Miracle on Ice- legendary call by Al Michaels.
all in all, a great weekend and college memory.
and the Vega got us back to Milwaukee.

Veni, vidi, vici
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorchick on December 09, 2023, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 09, 2023, 09:53:42 AM
we are 21.5 point favs


   is notre dame that bad or are we that good??

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Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorchick on December 09, 2023, 10:34:40 AM
A fellow Marquette parent told me several years ago that before his kid committed to MU, they went on a campus visit at ND.

He asked an administrator about the availability of academic scholarships, who scoffed and said, "Well, since everyone who gets accepted to Notre Dame  is smart enough to get an academic scholarship, it's already baked into the tuition."

Not sure what got ND crossed off the list quicker, the hubris of that statement or the fact that their tuition was $15K a year more than Marquette, even with the "baked in" scholarship.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 09, 2023, 11:02:07 AM
Quote from: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 09:22:38 AM
it was 1980, my first year at MU.
had brought our family's second vehicle from Jersey to WI at the holiday break-
'76 Chevy Vega Kamback... manual- ran basically on 3 of the 4 cylinders.

McCormick pal Britty was from Kettering, OH and had a bunch o' pals who went to ND.
we played ND at the Joyce, February- cold and nasty.
Vega had little to no heat complementing the lack of any zip from the engine whatsoever.

regardless, we crammed a crap ton of guys-  in the back of the Vega, backseat down and splayed head to toe, toe to head... squeezed in necessities like Strohs, Hamms or whatever was cheap along with enough clothes not to stink too badly and off we went.

Britty had us set up with some pals in the dorms- 
guys were stiff, girls were preppy beyond comprehension.
they did not know what to think or do with guys named Chester the Molester, Animal, Lurch, Boston Bob or C-dell Ball.  borderline appalled, I'm going with.

still, we were promised a great party and they had the 12pak to prove it.
3 minutes and 12 empties later, we were off to find a bar and a Denny's or something.
plenty of Denny-like places... not so much on the bar front.
managed to survive the night in our Warriors gear with mostly sneers and down-the-nose looks.

game day- Britty scored tickets, but none of us knew the campus or how Joyce was situated.
found the facility, but no clue how to get in, especially with the big ass Foster's Lager cans shoved in our winter coats.
saw a pack of big dudes heading toward an entrance of sorts, so our posse just hooked up and followed along.  some angry oldish dude was leading the procession.
we were led to a service door I guess and just kept going.
Chester, blitzed since 10am, starting laughing and freaking out some- Britty pummeled him good.

Got to the door, Old guy waved to the security guard-
guard says, hey Coach... Faust.
we waltzed right in.
so a handful of drunken MU students, ratty, smelly and only athletic/bulky looking cause we had on massive parkas with huge beer cans shoved in every pocket, cruised into the arena as prized ND Football recruits with one of the most recognizable college coaches in the biz.
the irony was just too much...

icing on the cake that we got to enjoy Dean Marquardt's best game of his life in taking down the hated leprauchauns sitting in the middle of the student section- way to score those tickets, Britty!
empty Foster cans rolling down toward the court finally was enough to get us booted, but the victory was sealed and we did more than our part.

the dormsters weren't happy we returned, but lightened up when we said we'd take care of the beer that night-
you'd think that they'd never seen beer kegs before when we rolled them out of the Vega into the hall.
a 12 pak?  right.

bonus memory-
I believe it was the next day... Olympics- Miracle on Ice- legendary call by Al Michaels.
all in all, a great weekend and college memory.
and the Vega got us back to Milwaukee.

Veni, vidi, vici

Where in Jersey was home?
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 09, 2023, 11:12:07 AM
A couple years ago my hurling team had an exhibition against their hurling/Gaelic Football club, nothings more fun than getting an excuse to whack a couple domers with a wooden stick and throw some elbows and shoulders while I'm at it.


Turns out the fighting Irish didn't have much fight in the national sport of Ireland
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 11:17:46 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 09, 2023, 11:02:07 AM
Where in Jersey was home?
Ocean County. 
Born in Lakewood- most of my youth on Long Beach Island
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Viper on December 09, 2023, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 09, 2023, 11:12:07 AM
A couple years ago my hurling team had an exhibition against their hurling/Gaelic Football club, nothings more fun than getting an excuse to whack a couple domers with a wooden stick and throw some elbows and shoulders while I'm at it.
perfect!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Boone on December 09, 2023, 11:47:05 AM
Nice spot, TVDirector. Uncle had a place on LBI until Sandy swept thru in '12 (I'm from Bergen County).
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2023, 12:15:23 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 09, 2023, 10:02:20 AM
Who is Hagrid then??

Huh? I know ugly white Domers look the same but Hagrid is a special breed of mouthbreather ugly.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 01:17:09 PM
Quote from: Boone on December 09, 2023, 11:47:05 AM
Nice spot, TVDirector. Uncle had a place on LBI until Sandy swept thru in '12 (I'm from Bergen County).
Sure is.   Great place to grow up, Summers for sure!
Lots o' North Jersey make the trek to MU.
I was the first if not one of the first from my HS to venture to the Midwest.  Not many from Ocean County at all-  tho I sure did a lot of recruiting. 

Got my masters up by you at Wm Paterson. 


Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: MU1in77 on December 09, 2023, 01:58:07 PM
I still hate Kelly Tripuka!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: 88Warrior on December 09, 2023, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on December 09, 2023, 10:02:20 AM
Who is Hagrid then??

SHREK!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 09, 2023, 03:09:10 PM
Quote from: MU1in77 on December 09, 2023, 01:58:07 PM
I still hate Kelly Tripuka!

So do I, but not nearly as much as I hate Laimbeer.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorfred on December 09, 2023, 03:12:16 PM
I didn't know much about ND when I went to Marquette and didn't think much about the school.  Marquette actually gave me exposure to ND alums and students . . . whew, talk about arrogant and condescending.

True story, ten (10) years ago during the summer we were driving back from New England and stopped near South Bend for lunch.  My wife wanted to see Notre Dame, so we drove around the campus and walked-around with the kids.  We were waiting in-line to get on the toll road (Interstate) and my wife asked men why I disliked Notre Dame.

"It's the students and alumni, they are bright idiots.  Totally unfit to operate normally in society."

"What does that mean?"

Her words were hanging in the air when the driver door opens on the car in from of us.  The guy blocking the toll boot area obviously didn't have an EZ Pass or I Pass, and then didn't have the correct money or change.  So he gets out of the car, goes into his trunk, and gets a wallet or purse.  As he slams the trunk I notice the "NOTRE DAME ALUM" bumper sticker.

"That right there is the perfect example of a Notre Dame graduate."
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Boone on December 09, 2023, 03:41:47 PM
TVDirector, check your inbox
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: JWags85 on December 09, 2023, 04:21:58 PM
Harangody was the perfect opponent to hate.  Begrudging respect for his ugly but effective game, but also infuriating cause you knew he was gonna have no big time career after.  Even getting drafted you knew he wouldn't be an NBA regular, but he didn't even go and put up numbers in Europe, pretty sure he never averaged double digit points his entire career.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Boone on December 09, 2023, 03:41:47 PM
TVDirector, check your inbox
Thanks Boone!!
Awesome!!!!
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Its DJOver on December 09, 2023, 05:04:11 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on December 09, 2023, 04:21:58 PM
Harangody was the perfect opponent to hate.  Begrudging respect for his ugly but effective game, but also infuriating cause you knew he was gonna have no big time career after.  Even getting drafted you knew he wouldn't be an NBA regular, but he didn't even go and put up numbers in Europe, pretty sure he never averaged double digit points his entire career.

I think the thing I hated the most was it seemed like we could never get him in foul trouble. We never had a dominant post presence on offense when he played and he would always just concede everything to our guards so even if you drove at him you'd never get anywhere.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 09, 2023, 05:31:50 PM
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 09, 2023, 05:04:11 PM
I think the thing I hated the most was it seemed like we could never get him in foul trouble. We never had a dominant post presence on offense when he played and he would always just concede everything to our guards so even if you drove at him you'd never get anywhere.

Lazar might disagree with the idea we had no dominant post presence 
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Its DJOver on December 09, 2023, 06:17:40 PM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 09, 2023, 05:31:50 PM
Lazar might disagree with the idea we had no dominant post presence

Lazar was a 6'-6" forward with a three point shot. He was not a post presence on the offensive end, much less a dominant one.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: willie warrior on December 09, 2023, 08:17:24 PM
Quote from: warriorfred on December 09, 2023, 03:12:16 PM
I didn't know much about ND when I went to Marquette and didn't think much about the school.  Marquette actually gave me exposure to ND alums and students . . . whew, talk about arrogant and condescending.

True story, ten (10) years ago during the summer we were driving back from New England and stopped near South Bend for lunch.  My wife wanted to see Notre Dame, so we drove around the campus and walked-around with the kids.  We were waiting in-line to get on the toll road (Interstate) and my wife asked men why I disliked Notre Dame.

"It's the students and alumni, they are bright idiots.  Totally unfit to operate normally in society."

"What does that mean?"

Her words were hanging in the air when the driver door opens on the car in from of us.  The guy blocking the toll boot area obviously didn't have an EZ Pass or I Pass, and then didn't have the correct money or change.  So he gets out of the car, goes into his trunk, and gets a wallet or purse.  As he slams the trunk I notice the "NOTRE DAME ALUM" bumper sticker.

"That right there is the perfect example of a Notre Dame graduate."
Why would your family walk around the No Dick campus? Were they giving away free steak dinners?
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: willie warrior on December 09, 2023, 08:21:07 PM
No Dick is the most hated school in the country. Period.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 09, 2023, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 11:17:46 AM
Ocean County. 
Born in Lakewood- most of my youth on Long Beach Island

Still take my dogs there when we go to the shore. I live in the Princeton area.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 09, 2023, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 09, 2023, 08:21:07 PM
No Dick is the most hated school in the country. Period.

🤔
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: warriorfred on December 09, 2023, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on December 09, 2023, 08:17:24 PM
Why would your family walk around the No Dick campus? Were they giving away free steak dinners?

Looking for a bathroom before getting on the road.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 09, 2023, 10:00:22 PM
Quote from: TVDirector on December 09, 2023, 11:17:46 AM
Ocean County. 
Born in Lakewood- most of my youth on Long Beach Island

Wife, kids and I used to spend a week on LBI every summer. Many fond memories.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TVDirector on December 10, 2023, 07:22:37 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 09, 2023, 09:27:12 PM
Still take my dogs there when we go to the shore. I live in the Princeton area.
My first job out of MU was in East Windsor-Hightstown. 
My brother/family are in 'downtown' Cranbury. 

Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: TVDirector on December 10, 2023, 07:26:45 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 09, 2023, 10:00:22 PM
Wife, kids and I used to spend a week on LBI every summer. Many fond memories.
Hope you made Uncle Wills in Beach Haven or Ships Galley in Surf City a priority....
If so, thank you for helping contribute to my MU tuition - both family businesses into the 1990's. 
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 10, 2023, 08:39:57 AM
Quote from: Its DJOver on December 09, 2023, 06:17:40 PM
Lazar was a 6'-6" forward with a three point shot. He was not a post presence on the offensive end, much less a dominant one.
Noble efforts by Dan Fitzgerald, Dwight Burke and occasionally Lazar.  How unfortunate Crean never had a real #5 presence. Ousman Barro also played nobly. 
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: tower912 on December 10, 2023, 08:48:57 AM
Robert Jackson is hurt.    Scott really was frequently hurt.
Title: Re: Hate ND
Post by: NCMUFan on December 10, 2023, 09:02:00 AM
Quote from: tower912 on December 10, 2023, 08:48:57 AM
Robert Jackson is hurt.    Scott really was frequently hurt.
You are right, I was referring more to the Three Amigo teams when I think they would have went up against Harangody.
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