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Title: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MuggsyB on August 25, 2023, 04:51:44 PM
Seriously?

Who knew we have a "alcohol czar"?

Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 25, 2023, 05:13:32 PM
Seriously?

Who knew we have a "alcohol czar"?

Obviously not a Marquette alum.

I hate the term "czar" applied to just about anyone who heads one of the huge numbers of government departments of whatever. Its asinine.

Just another example of how out of touch bureaucrats can be. Brewery stocks are gonna crash, right?
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Dickthedribbler on August 25, 2023, 05:37:09 PM
They tried this once in the 1930s. Not only did it fail miserably but it created a whole new subset of "criminals". Learn from history.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 25, 2023, 05:40:44 PM
Says nothing about wine or whiskey? I'm fine only having two beers a week then.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: tower912 on August 25, 2023, 05:46:24 PM
I've had 3 beers this year.   I'll be fine.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Dickthedribbler on August 25, 2023, 05:48:15 PM
Says nothing about wine or whiskey? I'm fine only having two beers a week then.

I'll take your 2 beers, please, if you don't want them.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Pakuni on August 25, 2023, 05:50:12 PM
First my gas stove and now my beer?

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Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MuggsyB on August 25, 2023, 06:32:47 PM
How has this worked out in Canada?  I'm not a heavy drinker but 2 beers a week is pretty much insane and bizarre. 
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: RJax55 on August 25, 2023, 06:41:34 PM
How has this worked out in Canada?  I'm not a heavy drinker but 2 beers a week is pretty much insane and bizarre.

Are you serious???

It is a general health RECOMMENDATION. Canada is not limiting people to two beers a week.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MuggsyB on August 25, 2023, 06:45:26 PM
Are you serious???

It is a general health RECOMMENDATION. Canada is not limiting people to two beers a week.

I realize this cannot be enforced. 
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: RJax55 on August 25, 2023, 06:56:33 PM
I realize this cannot be enforced.

There's nothing to enforce.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: cheebs09 on August 25, 2023, 07:06:15 PM
Isn’t this the equivalent of the surgeon general saying, “yea, you shouldn’t smoke,”? Maybe even less impactful.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: RJax55 on August 25, 2023, 07:14:23 PM
Isn’t this the equivalent of the surgeon general saying, “yea, you shouldn’t smoke,”? Maybe even less impactful.

Yes. I guess that's insane and bizarre.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 25, 2023, 08:39:29 PM
How has this worked out in Canada?  I'm not a heavy drinker but 2 beers a week is pretty much insane and bizarre.

Have your two and ponder it.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: forgetful on August 25, 2023, 09:18:33 PM
How has this worked out in Canada?  I'm not a heavy drinker but 2 beers a week is pretty much insane and bizarre.

This shouldn't even be news. Most definitely nothing to get riled up about. Alcohol isn't good for people. Since we have recommendations, they should at least be remotely accurate.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 25, 2023, 10:44:16 PM
I googled 2 beers a week to see what the fuss was about. It's really sad that every article covering it is from a certain political slant and they are all written in a way that leads the reader to believe that there is some sort of law being passed that's going to limit FREEDOM...instead of the reality of a public health official stating something obvious.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 25, 2023, 10:54:29 PM
2 beers per hour here.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: forgetful on August 25, 2023, 10:57:50 PM
I googled 2 beers a week to see what the fuss was about. It's really sad that every article covering it is from a certain political slant and they are all written in a way that leads the reader to believe that there is some sort of law being passed that's going to limit FREEDOM...instead of the reality of a public health official stating something obvious.

+1, I had to google it also, and noticed who is publicizing it, and how it is being intentionally reported in a misleading slant.

It's not even beer specific.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MuggsyB on August 25, 2023, 11:01:56 PM
I googled 2 beers a week to see what the fuss was about. It's really sad that every article covering it is from a certain political slant and they are all written in a way that leads the reader to believe that there is some sort of law being passed that's going to limit FREEDOM...instead of the reality of a public health official stating something obvious.

Well, abusing beer or alcohol is a lot different than throwing around no more than 2 beers a week.   Exactly, everyone knows this.  It's the obvious moderation narrative. 
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 26, 2023, 07:07:50 AM
Well, abusing beer or alcohol is a lot different than throwing around no more than 2 beers a week.   Exactly, everyone knows this.  It's the obvious moderation narrative. 

Yet here you are all fired up…
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: warriorchick on August 26, 2023, 07:56:39 AM
Only two beers a week might put a dent in the obesity crisis as well.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 26, 2023, 07:56:57 AM
2 beers per hour here.

That's in a "dog's week". All good.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on August 26, 2023, 08:19:05 AM
Muggsy:
Seriously?
Who knew we have a "alcohol czar"?

Also Muggsy:
Well, abusing beer or alcohol is a lot different than throwing around no more than 2 beers a week.   Exactly, everyone knows this.  It's the obvious moderation narrative.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on August 26, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
+1, I had to google it also, and noticed who is publicizing it, and how it is being intentionally reported in a misleading slant.

It's not even beer specific.

But Muggsy read about it in the WSJ
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: real chili 83 on August 26, 2023, 08:41:08 AM
Now, two meals of manatee per week is a lot.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 26, 2023, 08:55:20 AM
Now, two meals of manatee per week is a lot.

Especially if prepared in a brine with Fukushima Water.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MuggsyB on August 26, 2023, 08:57:09 AM
Now, two meals of manatee per week is a lot.

Manatees are a unique and special species.  And very cool.  I'm a bit disappointed in you. 
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: tower912 on August 26, 2023, 09:16:18 AM
Now, two meals of manatee per week is a lot.

I hate to waste food, so leftovers from the first meal.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: 🏀 on August 26, 2023, 10:48:38 AM
I hate to waste food, so leftovers from the first meal.

Manatee reheats well in the air fryer.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: tower912 on August 26, 2023, 10:56:03 AM
Or cut it into chunks, boil an egg, mash up an avocado, and have a Cobb salad.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: SoCalEagle on August 26, 2023, 11:57:41 AM
But Muggsy read about it in the WSJ

Oh, so it must be true. 

WSJ only good for financial articles and weekend section nowadays. 
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 27, 2023, 02:18:44 PM
Only two beers a week might put a dent in the obesity crisis as well.

Wait, light beer still contributes to increased weight?
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: BrewCity83 on August 28, 2023, 01:43:12 PM
My doctor told me that 1-2 beers (or drinks) per day is good for me.  He said it makes you happy, relaxes you, and has a positive effect on the heart and cholesterol levels.   I am not making this up.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 28, 2023, 05:37:58 PM
     

            right up there with 1 square per "episode" eyn'a?

 trees thru the forest people-next thing ya know,  they'll be after our gas stoves, dishwashers(over 3.2 gal per cycle), gas cars, air conditioners, natural gas lines to homes, water heaters...whodathunk??    nahhhhhh they can't do this

all of this regulatory b.s. is going to cause many to start drinking...

Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 28, 2023, 05:43:34 PM
This isn’t an example of regulation.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 28, 2023, 06:42:49 PM
This isn’t an example of regulation.

  no worries...everything is just fine
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: Scoop Snoop on August 28, 2023, 07:35:16 PM
     

            right up there with 1 square per "episode" eyn'a?

 trees thru the forest people-next thing ya know,  they'll be after our gas stoves, dishwashers(over 3.2 gal per cycle), gas cars, air conditioners, natural gas lines to homes, water heaters...whodathunk??    nahhhhhh they can't do this

all of this regulatory b.s. is going to cause many to start drinking...

How could you forget lawnmowers?
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: 🏀 on August 28, 2023, 09:18:57 PM
How could you forget lawnmowers?

And leaf blowers.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on August 28, 2023, 09:45:15 PM
roqqet was also upset when we did away with leaded paint, asbestos, and smoking on airplanes.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 28, 2023, 10:00:56 PM
roqqet was also upset when we did away with leaded paint, asbestos, and smoking on airplanes.

  no i wasn't...so you are trying to tell me the things you listed-lead paint asbestos, etc are similar to natural gas stoves, etc?  really?  so your disdain for me is so strong that you can't just shut up and move on from anything you see as uneventful?  so you make up some stupid chit just to say something stupid?  or was it supposed to be funny?  i don't even see the correlations?  god you guys are friggin obtuse

   
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: forgetful on August 28, 2023, 10:38:47 PM
How could you forget lawnmowers?

Personally, I'm still too pissed about banning Lawn Darts, Slap Bracelets, 3-wheelers, not to mention, root beer made with actual sassafras, to worry about anything else.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: tower912 on August 29, 2023, 04:51:53 AM
I miss standing up in the back of station wagons.   Obviously, I was younger.  And it is how I got the scar between my eyebrows.  And required dental work.  But man, those were the days.   Stupid seatbelts and car seats.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: jesmu84 on August 29, 2023, 05:05:35 AM
  no i wasn't...so you are trying to tell me the things you listed-lead paint asbestos, etc are similar to natural gas stoves, etc?  really?  so your disdain for me is so strong that you can't just shut up and move on from anything you see as uneventful?  so you make up some stupid chit just to say something stupid?  or was it supposed to be funny?  i don't even see the correlations?  god you guys are friggin obtuse

 

Do you know why it's suggested to get rid of gas stoves?
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 29, 2023, 05:46:11 AM
Do you know why it's suggested to get rid of gas stoves?

  i have my thoughts, but it seems to be another "ham handed" way to regulate something that ain't there.  another way to control what few feel ("moral minority")is a problem.  short of nuclear, natural gas is one of the cleanest burning fossil fuels we have.  so what would take the place of gas stoves? electric?  ya'll know where electric comes from? a majority of it? what the hell do they want everyone to use?  easy bake ovens?

  if we had better alternatives ready to go, then fine.  as the same can be said for EV's; until we are ready with something that people can afford and is better, these regs only serve to establish a hierarchy and push people in to unreasonable alternatives for day to day living

  so the larger question becomes, WHO is really benefiting from these so called "environmentally friendly" alternatives.  usually the people at the top of the chain and those who invest in these things

   one other concern-many people have been unnecessarily programmed, indoctrinated in to believing all this global warming-climate change crap and that we as humans are causing it...a movement toward all these "energy efficient" things are a scare tactic...change or we are all doomed.  oh, it's for climate change, then it must be all good??  the means justify the ends?  gee, where have we heard that?  there are veys, and there are other veys.......... not so fast dudes, china is laughing all the way to the bank while they put up more coal fired electric plants.  btw, how are all those union jobs lost by lunch box joe shutting down our pipelines doing? 

   tell them to cut er down to 2 beers a week?  they count their beers by the keg and for good reason, if they can afford it
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 29, 2023, 05:52:18 AM
  i have my thoughts, but it seems to be another "ham handed" way to regulate something that ain't there.  another way to control what few feel ("moral minority")is a problem.  short of nuclear, natural gas is one of the cleanest burning fossil fuels we have.  so what would take the place of gas stoves? electric?  ya'll know where electric comes from? a majority of it? what the hell do they want everyone to use?  easy bake ovens?

  if we had better alternatives ready to go, then fine.  as the same can be said for EV's; until we are ready with something that people can afford and is better, these regs only serve to establish a hierarchy and push people in to unreasonable alternatives for day to day living

  so the larger question becomes, WHO is really benefiting from these so called "environmentally friendly" alternatives.  usually the people at the top of the chain and those who invest in these things

   one other concern-many people have been unnecessarily programmed, indoctrinated in to believing all this global warming-climate change crap and that we as humans are causing it...a movement toward all these "energy efficient" things are a scare tactic...change or we are all doomed.  oh, it's for climate change, then it must be all good??  the means justify the ends?  gee, where have we heard that?  there are veys, and there are other veys.......... not so fast dudes, china is laughing all the way to the bank while they put up more coal fired electric plants.  btw, how are all those union jobs lost by lunch box joe shutting down our pipelines doing? 

   tell them to cut er down to 2 beers a week?  they count their beers by the keg and for good reason, if they can afford it

It would have been easier to just answer “no.”
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on August 29, 2023, 07:09:19 AM
It would have been easier to just answer “no.”
I just can't even...

Willful ignorance, climate denialism, conspiracy theories, whataboutism, and allusions to Nazi Germany all in one post. Good lord.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 29, 2023, 07:29:01 AM
I just can't even...

Willful ignorance, climate denialism, conspiracy theories, whataboutism, and allusions to Nazi Germany all in one post. Good lord.


In the ears...out the mouth...doesn't even stop at the brain. (Not that it matters much in this case.)
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: jesmu84 on August 29, 2023, 09:25:07 AM
  i have my thoughts, but it seems to be another "ham handed" way to regulate something that ain't there.  another way to control what few feel ("moral minority")is a problem.  short of nuclear, natural gas is one of the cleanest burning fossil fuels we have.  so what would take the place of gas stoves? electric?  ya'll know where electric comes from? a majority of it? what the hell do they want everyone to use?  easy bake ovens?

  if we had better alternatives ready to go, then fine.  as the same can be said for EV's; until we are ready with something that people can afford and is better, these regs only serve to establish a hierarchy and push people in to unreasonable alternatives for day to day living

  so the larger question becomes, WHO is really benefiting from these so called "environmentally friendly" alternatives.  usually the people at the top of the chain and those who invest in these things

   one other concern-many people have been unnecessarily programmed, indoctrinated in to believing all this global warming-climate change crap and that we as humans are causing it...a movement toward all these "energy efficient" things are a scare tactic...change or we are all doomed.  oh, it's for climate change, then it must be all good??  the means justify the ends?  gee, where have we heard that?  there are veys, and there are other veys.......... not so fast dudes, china is laughing all the way to the bank while they put up more coal fired electric plants.  btw, how are all those union jobs lost by lunch box joe shutting down our pipelines doing? 

   tell them to cut er down to 2 beers a week?  they count their beers by the keg and for good reason, if they can afford it

The suggestion of replacing gas stoves has nothing to do with any of the above.

Do you know why we stopped putting lead in gas or using asbestos?
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 29, 2023, 09:40:01 AM
It would have been easier to just answer “no.”

  i know you guys are just so much smarter
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: rocket surgeon on August 29, 2023, 09:41:07 AM
The suggestion of replacing gas stoves has nothing to do with any of the above.

Do you know why we stopped putting lead in gas or using asbestos?

  see below
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on August 29, 2023, 10:07:08 AM
  i know you guys are just so much smarter
Yes
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: warriorchick on August 29, 2023, 10:17:52 AM
I miss standing up in the back of station wagons.   Obviously, I was younger.  And it is how I got the scar between my eyebrows.  And required dental work.  But man, those were the days.   Stupid seatbelts and car seats.

As one of 4 kids in the 60s, I had a brother break his arm when we were all piled into the back of the station wagon and my mom stopped suddenly. Everyone filed it under "stuff happens".

We had a "car seat" but it wasn't about safely in a crash - it was designed to keep the youngest kid from crawling around in the car.

The worst part about being a kid in a car during that era was having parents who smoked. Either they kept the windows rolled up and we had to breathe the secondhand smoke, or they would flick the ashes out the window. Once a hot ash flew back in and hit me right in the eye.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MU82 on August 29, 2023, 10:31:29 AM
Ooh I need a buzz, babe;
Guess you know it's true.
Give me brews I love, babe;
Cold IPAs will do.
Sate me, satiate me ... sate me, satiate me.
Just please don't cap me at
Two beers a week.
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: wadesworld on August 29, 2023, 11:06:00 AM
It would have been easier to just answer “no.”

Lol!
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on August 29, 2023, 11:23:55 AM
As one of 4 kids in the 60s, I had a brother break his arm when we were all piled into the back of the station wagon and my mom stopped suddenly. Everyone filed it under "stuff happens".

We had a "car seat" but it wasn't about safely in a crash - it was designed to keep the youngest kid from crawling around in the car.

The worst part about being a kid in a car during that era was having parents who smoked. Either they kept the windows rolled up and we had to breathe the secondhand smoke, or they would flick the ashes out the window. Once a hot ash flew back in and hit me right in the eye.

My "car seat" in the late 70s was a bouncy seat with the seat belt ran through the legs.  From the seat, of course

My MIL quit smoking after she flicked an ash into my wife's eye in the backseat.  😅
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: jesmu84 on August 29, 2023, 02:48:18 PM
  see below

I didn't see an answer to this:

Do you know why we got rid of lead in gasoline (or paint) and why we stopped using asbestos?
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: pbiflyer on August 30, 2023, 11:37:08 AM
I can do only two.
(https://i.redd.it/764tgbmbhqz11.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 Beers a Week?????
Post by: MuggsyB on August 31, 2023, 06:09:42 PM
I can do only two.
(https://i.redd.it/764tgbmbhqz11.jpg)

Well played pbi.