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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on July 01, 2023, 01:15:41 PM
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Elon has announced unverified Twitter accounts are limited to viewing 600 posts a day and verified accounts can read 6,000. New unverified accounts can read 300.
Brilliant.
Any suggestions on where to move MUOverload to?
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I heard Truth Social is pretty dope.
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I just had to get an account because I could no longer view online without one. We will see how long that account lasts.
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Elon has announced unverified Twitter accounts are limited to viewing 600 posts a day and verified accounts can read 6,000. New unverified accounts can read 300.
Brilliant.
Any suggestions on where to move MUOverload to?
Doing a bang up job, Elon.
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They tried something new, screwed it up, and now this is the temporary cover for that once they learn how to fix it in a few days or whenever, they will revert back to before.
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In less than a year, his $44B purchase is valued at $15B. And his brilliant move is to artificially limit the number of ads users can see from a decreasing advertiser base? I honestly don't think anyone could be worse at this if they deliberately tried.
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Who'd have imagined that cutting two-thirds of your workforce might have operational consequences.
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They tried something new, screwed it up, and now this is the temporary cover for that once they learn how to fix it in a few days or whenever, they will revert back to before.
Yup, this was definitely supposed to be a permanent fixture that backfired tremendously.
Still kinda surprised that the old employees that got laid off haven’t made a platform yet.
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Who'd have imagined that cutting two-thirds of your workforce might have operational consequences.
It’s going to replace Fox News
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How to ruin your social media company 101: limit user usage
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Coincidence that the 5-year long contract Twitter had with Google Cloud expired yesterday and Elon refused to renew it?
https://theconversation.com/twitter-is-refusing-to-pay-google-for-cloud-services-heres-why-it-matters-and-what-the-fallout-could-be-for-users-207718
Elon eff’d up and is trying to save face.
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How much does one have to pay to never have to use Twitter?
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It’s going to replace Fox News
Speaking of which ... it usually takes more than two months for a particular Scooper's hot take to be proven wrong, and yet here we are.
https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/two-months-later-its-clear-tucker-carlson-needed-fox-news-more-than-fox-needed-tucker/
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In less than a year, his $44B purchase is valued at $15B. And his brilliant move is to artificially limit the number of ads users can see from a decreasing advertiser base? I honestly don't think anyone could be worse at this if they deliberately tried.
Eloon is doing everyone a service by not forcing them to watch the pitiful ads that are remaining on Twitter.
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Elon has announced unverified Twitter accounts are limited to viewing 600 posts a day and verified accounts can read 6,000. New unverified accounts can read 300.
Brilliant.
Any suggestions on where to move MUOverload to?
Instagram has the most similar demographics to Twitter. That and TikTok are the only places with huge young audiences. MU fandom may be older, so FB may be a good idea? FB's demographic skews towards women though.
Lemmy and Tildes are up and coming, but they are very small and mostly Reddit clones.
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In less than a year, his $44B purchase is valued at $15B. And his brilliant move is to artificially limit the number of ads users can see from a decreasing advertiser base? I honestly don't think anyone could be worse at this if they deliberately tried.
Ash tray money
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Instagram has the most similar demographics to Twitter. That and TikTok are the only places with huge young audiences. MU fandom may be older, so FB may be a good idea? FB's demographic skews towards women though.
Lemmy and Tildes are up and coming, but they are very small and mostly Reddit clones.
Facebook is probably the right answer, but I’m partial to Reddit.
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Facebook is probably the right answer, but I’m partial to Reddit.
Same, but reddit is:
1- potentially going down the tubes, they just killed off their 3rd party API ecosystem just like twitter did. Things are about to get worse
2- no real mubb presence. I modded the mubb subreddit before my old account got banned for unknown reasons. Not much Marquette or mubb presence outside of /r/collegebasketball. Wrong demographic imo
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Elon has announced unverified Twitter accounts are limited to viewing 600 posts a day and verified accounts can read 6,000. New unverified accounts can read 300.
Brilliant.
Any suggestions on where to move MUOverload to?
Instagram.
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Elon has announced unverified Twitter accounts are limited to viewing 600 posts a day and verified accounts can read 6,000. New unverified accounts can read 300.
Brilliant.
Any suggestions on where to move MUOverload to?
OnlyFans?
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It is a temporary restriction to fight the AI programs from scrapping data from Twitter. He has already increased the limit.
Give it a week or two, and it will be resolved. By Labor Day, this will be a trivia question most will have forgotten.
Who remembers the November hyperventilation that Twitter would stop working because Elon fired a bunch of staff and how everyone was supposed to rush to Masterdon (a haven for pedophiles) when they could no longer tweet?
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It is a temporary restriction to fight the AI programs from scrapping data from Twitter. He has already increased the limit.
Give it a week or two, and it will be resolved. By Labor Day, this will be a trivia question most will have forgotten.
Who remembers the November hyperventilation that Twitter would stop working because Elon fired a bunch of staff and how everyone was supposed to rush to Masterdon (a haven for pedophiles) when they could no longer tweet?
Twitter is a haven for neo-nazis, bigots AND pedophiles
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Twitter is a haven for neo-nazis, bigots AND pedophiles
It is a haven for all of the above. It has hundreds of millions of daily users.
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It is a haven for all of the above. It has hundreds of millions of daily users.
Too bad they can’t get advertising or pay their bills
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Too bad they can’t get advertising or pay their bills
Twitter is purposely moving away from the advertising model. That is why they charge for Twitter Blue. Musk wants ad revenues to go to zero.
Are you looking at the drop in ad revenues to validate your political viewpoint? It has long been understood the ad revenue model is a problem for objectivity on all media platforms, no matter which side of the political aisle one is on. Kudos to Musk for trying something different (and yes, it is an open question as to whether this will work).
Question... do you view Bud Light moving away from Pride advertising and more toward "traditional" advertising as a repudiation of the Pride movement? Or does a fall in ad revenues only work one way for you?
All platforms must reduce their reliance on advertising, especially Big Pharma advertising.
Only New Zealand and the US allow Pharma advertising, as everyone else understands the harmful effects of pushing drugs direct to consumers. In the US, the drug dealers are in control, and we celebrate went the drug dealers boycott someone we don't like from a political viewpoint.
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My chatGPT web browser extension can no longer access Twitter. And Musk has implied this is by design.
Musk wants to cut off all the AI scrapping of Twitter data, as he wants them to pay him big $$$ for it.
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In less than a year, his $44B purchase is valued at $15B. And his brilliant move is to artificially limit the number of ads users can see from a decreasing advertiser base? I honestly don't think anyone could be worse at this if they deliberately tried.
Funny how all the users that said they were leaving Twitter last fall are now upset they can only view 600 (noe 1k) tweets a day.
Isn't irony rich!
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Twitter is purposely moving away from the advertising model. That is why they charge for Twitter Blue. Musk wants ad revenues to go to zero.
Are you looking at the drop in ad revenues to validate your political viewpoint? It has long been understood the ad revenue model is a problem for objectivity on all media platforms, no matter which side of the political aisle one is on. Kudos to Musk for trying something different (and yes, it is an open question as to whether this will work).
Question... do you view Bud Light moving away from Pride advertising and more toward "traditional" advertising as a repudiation of the Pride movement? Or does a fall in ad revenues only work one way for you?
All platforms must reduce their reliance on advertising, especially Big Pharma advertising.
Only New Zealand and the US allow Pharma advertising, as everyone else understands the harmful effects of pushing drugs direct to consumers. In the US, the drug dealers are in control, and we celebrate went the drug dealers boycott someone we don't like from a political viewpoint.
Twitter is a dying platform. Bud Light sales have been supplemented by dozens of other InBev brands.
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Twitter is a dying platform. Bud Light sales have been supplemented by dozens of other InBev brands.
enjoy
https://mastodon.social/auth/sign_up
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enjoy
https://mastodon.social/auth/sign_up
Thanks. Just moved over to Instagram. Most of the folks I interact with on Twitter moved over there as well.
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Funny how all the users that said they were leaving Twitter last fall are now upset they can only view 600 (noe 1k) tweets a day.
Isn't irony rich!
“All”?
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Twitter is a dying platform. Bud Light sales have been supplemented by dozens of other InBev brands.
Clown world.
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Twitter is purposely moving away from the advertising model. That is why they charge for Twitter Blue. Musk wants ad revenues to go to zero.
That seems to be his plan, and it is uneffingbelievably, mind-numbingly, apex moron level stupid. You can't give a product away for free for over a decade then expect people to pay and have that product survive. Anyone who's witnessed print journalism over the past couple decades would realize that's an incredibly idiotic business model for Twitter.
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Clown world.
Agree, Twitter is clown world
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All good points. Twitter stock and the platform itself were booming before Elon took over.
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I have said from the beginning that Twitter Blue is charging the wrong people. Twitter should be paying users who are providing the high traffic content and charging people to read it.
Not sure if it would work because I’m not sure the entire enterprise could ever be profitable.
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https://twitter.com/adam22/status/1675557626279776256?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A
It’s also hard to say this app will ever fail with content like this.
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I haven't been this mad since the Metaverse died.
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https://twitter.com/adam22/status/1675557626279776256?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A
It’s also hard to say this app will ever fail with content like this.
Nothing there? At this point it's hard to tell if it's the platform failing because they failed to pay their bills again, crappy business decisions, or just users deleting their content.
I think Twitter went full Pinterest and locked their content behind having an account.
I don't think Twitter management understands their business model. They aren't the NYT. Subscriptions won't work unless content creation is either owned by the biz, or if creators are being paid. Should have snagged the business model from Twitch or Patreon, that would have generated a ton of cash without ducking up their creator/consumer marketplace. Right now they've pissed off both sides, really impressively bad business.
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That seems to be his plan, and it is uneffingbelievably, mind-numbingly, apex moron level stupid. You can't give a product away for free for over a decade then expect people to pay and have that product survive. Anyone who's witnessed print journalism over the past couple decades would realize that's an incredibly idiotic business model for Twitter.
He is asking the content producers to pay, not the consumers
I have said from the beginning that Twitter Blue is charging the wrong people. Twitter should be paying users who are providing the high traffic content and charging people to read it.
Not sure if it would work because I’m not sure the entire enterprise could ever be profitable.
What you are describing is the model of the last 70 years. That is paying for content (buying a TV show), and consumers get it for free. Supplement with advertising.
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Before Musk bought Twitter, Jack Dorsey told him he thought Twitter could never be profitable. Dorsey thinks it should be decentralized.
In April 2022, Dorsey tweeted:
“believe anyone should own or run Twitter,” explaining that he believes it should be a public good. “Solving for the problem of it being a company, however, Elon is the singular solution I trust”
So Dorsey started a decentralized social media app called Bluesky.
https://observer.com/2023/05/jack-dorsey-bluesky-twitter/
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Serious question: Who is reading more than 1,000 twits a day?
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AI scrappers
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He is asking the content producers to pay, not the consumers
Patently untrue. He is making the experience worse for anyone who won't pay for Twitter Blue. He is delegitimizing the verification process so it doesn't mean what it's intended for.
Twitter will survive, albeit on life support like it is now, until a viable alternative arrives. Musk has failed in spectacular fashion. It wasn't Mastodon. Maybe it'll be Blue Sky, maybe it'll be something else. But Musk's involvement will be what kills the platform, and it's his own stupidity that is to blame.
He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.
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I knew Twitter was great the first time I rizzed up a gurl on there
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Patently untrue. He is making the experience worse for anyone who won't pay for Twitter Blue. He is delegitimizing the verification process so it doesn't mean what it's intended for.
Twitter will survive, albeit on life support like it is now, until a viable alternative arrives. Musk has failed in spectacular fashion. It wasn't Mastodon. Maybe it'll be Blue Sky, maybe it'll be something else. But Musk's involvement will be what kills the platform, and it's his own stupidity that is to blame.
He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.
He bought Twitter to get more likes on his jokes
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Ziggy needs to try that.
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Serious question: Who is reading more than 1,000 twits a day?
Every page load is 20±. Scroll quickly and it's more. You can easily hit 600-1000 in an hour.
Punishing your mega users is the opposite of what other successful subscription/microtransaction biz models do. You usually cultivate your whales.
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I thought the $8 subscription fee totaled a drop in the bucket compared to what they were getting in ad revenue. It sounded smart until actually doing the math.
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Patently untrue. He is making the experience worse for anyone who won't pay for Twitter Blue. He is delegitimizing the verification process so it doesn't mean what it's intended for.
Twitter will survive, albeit on life support like it is now, until a viable alternative arrives. Musk has failed in spectacular fashion. It wasn't Mastodon. Maybe it'll be Blue Sky, maybe it'll be something else. But Musk's involvement will be what kills the platform, and it's his own stupidity that is to blame.
He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.
It sounds like you're assuming that Twitter can be a profitable company. It never was and was always a difficult company to manage. That's why the board wanted him to buy it at a price well off its all-time high. They knew it was a mess and the Twitter files detailed what a clusterf**k the place was.
So, maybe Dorsey has it right, no one should own or run Twitter. It should be decentralized.
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I have said from the beginning that Twitter Blue is charging the wrong people. Twitter should be paying users who are providing the high traffic content and charging people to read it.
Not sure if it would work because I’m not sure the entire enterprise could ever be profitable.
I thought the $8 subscription fee totaled a drop in the bucket compared to what they were getting in ad revenue. It sounded smart until actually doing the math.
What Musk is doing may not work, but returning to what they did (going back to begging for Ad revenue) has already been shown not to work.
So, something else has to be tried, not return to what did not work before (the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome).
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Ziggy needs to try that.
What's Scoop's current value? Could the underboard try a hostile takeover?
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He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.
According to Bloomberg, his net worth today is $233 billion and he remains the richest person in the world.
His net worth is up $96 billion since the day he bought Twitter. So, even if Twitter is worth zero, he is richer today than the day he took it over last October.
Founder of Paypal
Telsa
Spacex
Solar City
The Boring Company
Neuralink (brain implant company which just got FDA approval)
Founder of OpenAI
Owner of Twitter
Quite the failure.
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Every page load is 20±. Scroll quickly and it's more. You can easily hit 600-1000 in an hour.
Punishing your mega users is the opposite of what other successful subscription/microtransaction biz models do. You usually cultivate your whales.
Thanks for the info.
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According to Bloomberg, his net worth today is $233 billion and he remains the richest person in the world.
His net worth is up $96 billion since the day he bought Twitter. So, even if Twitter is worth zero, he is richer today than the day he took it over last October.
Founder of Paypal
Telsa
Spacex
Solar City
The Boring Company
Neuralink (brain implant company which just got FDA approval)
Founder of OpenAI
Owner of Twitter
Quite the failure.
He was not the founder of PayPal. He was acqui-hired and became the CEO of a PayPal precursor. He was terminated within the year due to making truly terrible software engineering decisions that made the engineering team threaten to quit en masse. Much like he's doing with Twitter. He has a track record with software companies and it's not good.
Here's a good book if you're interested:
The PayPal Wars: Battles with eBay, the Media, the Mafia, and the Rest of Planet Earth https://a.co/d/b99CuHv
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He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.
You're one of the people who thinks that emerald mine was actually worth hundreds of millions of dollars don't you?
The absolute stupidest continuing criticism of Musk by people who hate his political slant is that he's actually not intelligent and hasn't done anything remarkable ever. There is a huge tract of space in the "intelligent person who has done some very smart and successful business stuff but isn't perfect and make plenty of mistakes out of hubris" realm below the "MUSK IS THE SMARTEST MAN SINCE EINSTEIN" plane that his fanboys view him at. But no, his critics have to go with "he's actually incredibly stupid" and just living off his inherited extravagant wealth and nepotism and then back it up with claims from Errol Musk who is a known liar who is estranged from his family.
As for Twitter, I actually think its 2 fold. I do think they are fighting the data scrapping (and Musk has long been an AI fanboy, so I would believe he's super attentive/paranoid to that space) and I also think they had cloud issues so it was just some convenient CYA.
I think the long term plan for Twitter is still TBD. I think taking everything at "moment in time" in terms of valuation and whatnot is silly, cause its a privately held company thats undergoing substantial changes. When a PE firm takes over a business and rips it down to the studs to rebuild/streamline/etc, nobody is watching daily like "Oh, Conglomerate Co was worth $5B and now its only worth $1B!". Musk has made a ton of mistakes and can't keep his mouth shut so everything is highly publicized, but people have been calling "this is the end of Twitter" almost quarterly for like 5 years, even before Musk. He could still absolutely implode, but until he throws up his hands and sells Twitter for parts or just shuts the site down, TBD IMO.
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One thing that Elon and co are undeniably great at (at least for some people) as this thread capably proves: The man has sure crafted a hagiography that a certain portion of the public is just *desperate* to believe.
I think that there's actually a good reason for that. People want to believe that humanity is capable of solving big problems. We look at a (probably glorified) past and see things like WW2, Manhattan Project, Smallpox eradication, Interstate Highway System, and wish we could pull off something like that. Then Elon rolls in as the Face of a series of enterprises (some of which) do Big Things. Tesla (with a lot of government subsidies) set into motion the electrification of the auto industry. SpaceX (with a lot of government subsidies) set into motion the privitation of the space-commerce/transit industry. Huge and amazing accomplishments!
Of course there's the Borin Company that is mostly just good at defrauding local governments and only has one death tunnel under Vegas that has no fire escapes, so that's not quite as good. And Twitter is demonstratively in a worse business position now than it was when he bought it, so that's less great.
But boy do we want to focus on the first couple hits and *BELIEVE* the man has unique genius that unlocks human potential for greatness. Framed that way it is a nice story at least.
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But boy do we want to focus on the first couple hits and *BELIEVE* the man has unique genius that unlocks human potential for greatness. Framed that way it is a nice story at least.
I'm not sure if you were speaking to me in your post, but I don't think he's a unique genius. I dont think Steve Jobs was a unique genius either, just a really exceptionally good marketer, but he was the original patron saint of tech founder self marketing. I think Musk's a smart guy who had vision and was ahead of the curve on a few things and was in the right circles and rooms at the right time. None of the precludes him from being a failure or deficient in other arenas (how many successful business people/doctors/lawyers failed miserably getting into restaurants or real estate?) but that also doesn't make his early work any less impressive IMO. I'm pretty middle of the road with Musk and think he's lost the plot markedly, but I have been pretty open against pushing back on the revisionist history that's actually just a lucky sperm club board president wi
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I'm not sure if you were speaking to me in your post, but I don't think he's a unique genius. I dont think Steve Jobs was a unique genius either, just a really exceptionally good marketer, but he was the original patron saint of tech founder self marketing. I think Musk's a smart guy who had vision and was ahead of the curve on a few things and was in the right circles and rooms at the right time. None of the precludes him from being a failure or deficient in other arenas (how many successful business people/doctors/lawyers failed miserably getting into restaurants or real estate?) but that also doesn't make his early work any less impressive IMO. I'm pretty middle of the road with Musk and think he's lost the plot markedly, but I have been pretty open against pushing back on the revisionist history that's actually just a lucky sperm club board president wi
eh I wasn't really addressing you specifically, moreso the greater online discourse surrounding Musk generally.
I mean there's a reason this meme exists:
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FWIW I think the "Musk is obviously a moron" narrative is overblown. I just think that people who attain a level of success where nobody in their orbit will tell them "no, you're being an idiot" have a tendency to think they can be as great in some unrelated field as they are in their field of success. This type of brain worm is not unique to him at all. Musk's meltdown just happens to be on an inherently transparent platform so he's kinda giving us all frontrow seats.
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You're one of the people who thinks that emerald mine was actually worth hundreds of millions of dollars don't you?
The absolute stupidest continuing criticism of Musk by people who hate his political slant is that he's actually not intelligent and hasn't done anything remarkable ever. There is a huge tract of space in the "intelligent person who has done some very smart and successful business stuff but isn't perfect and make plenty of mistakes out of hubris" realm below the "MUSK IS THE SMARTEST MAN SINCE EINSTEIN" plane that his fanboys view him at. But no, his critics have to go with "he's actually incredibly stupid" and just living off his inherited extravagant wealth and nepotism and then back it up with claims from Errol Musk who is a known liar who is estranged from his family.
As for Twitter, I actually think its 2 fold. I do think they are fighting the data scrapping (and Musk has long been an AI fanboy, so I would believe he's super attentive/paranoid to that space) and I also think they had cloud issues so it was just some convenient CYA.
I think the long term plan for Twitter is still TBD. I think taking everything at "moment in time" in terms of valuation and whatnot is silly, cause its a privately held company thats undergoing substantial changes. When a PE firm takes over a business and rips it down to the studs to rebuild/streamline/etc, nobody is watching daily like "Oh, Conglomerate Co was worth $5B and now its only worth $1B!". Musk has made a ton of mistakes and can't keep his mouth shut so everything is highly publicized, but people have been calling "this is the end of Twitter" almost quarterly for like 5 years, even before Musk. He could still absolutely implode, but until he throws up his hands and sells Twitter for parts or just shuts the site down, TBD IMO.
"Political slant" is an interesting way to say racist, among other things.
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Well, at least he wants to take away voting from those who don't have kids
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According to Bloomberg, his net worth today is $233 billion and he remains the richest person in the world.
His net worth is up $96 billion since the day he bought Twitter. So, even if Twitter is worth zero, he is richer today than the day he took it over last October.
He was worth $340B at the end of 2021 before his whole Twitter kerfuffle started. He's tanked his net worth by more than $100B.
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And I think I've found the perfect Heisy tweet:
ELON: (sticks dick into electric shredding machine, gets dick shredded)
NORMAL PERSON: oh my god, that lunatic just paid for a machine that tore his dick off
FANBOY Heisy: lol like your scrub ass could even afford such an expensive dick mutilator. cry more.
https://twitter.com/scottlynch78/status/1675885347576725504?s=46&t=y09G3XF0pbaZZc_-K-dYSw
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Scott Lynch is a real good one.
Fantastic author. Ex-fireman.
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Scott Lynch is a real good one.
Fantastic author. Ex-fireman.
So clearly a genius.
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So clearly a genius.
Absolutely. He doesn’t need me recommending his “Gentleman Bastards” series, but if you’re not the kind of person who views all fantasy books as unreadable, then it’s a top 10 in the 21st century series.
“The Lies of Locke Lamora” is book one. Think “Oceans 11” x “Game of Thrones” and you’re not far off.
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It appears TweetDdck soon will be available only to subscribers.
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It appears TweetDdck soon will be available only to subscribers.
Changing that second D to an I would probably be more to Musk’s elevated sense of humor and liking
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Nothing there? At this point it's hard to tell if it's the platform failing because they failed to pay their bills again, crappy business decisions, or just users deleting their content.
I think Twitter went full Pinterest and locked their content behind having an account.
I don't think Twitter management understands their business model. They aren't the NYT. Subscriptions won't work unless content creation is either owned by the biz, or if creators are being paid. Should have snagged the business model from Twitch or Patreon, that would have generated a ton of cash without ducking up their creator/consumer marketplace. Right now they've pissed off both sides, really impressively bad business.
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https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-launch-twitter-like-app-threads-2023-07-04/
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https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-launch-twitter-like-app-threads-2023-07-04/
From the article:
"Threads is going to pose a huge threat to Twitter because it's coming from the Meta and Instagram family of apps," said Drew Benvie, CEO of social media consultancy Battenhall.
"Instagram has 2 billion users compared to around 250 million of Twitter, so it's about ten times bigger already. If only one-in-ten Instagram users tries using Threads, it will overtake Twitter in the blink of an eye."
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Zuck vs Musk. Battle of the bastards.
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From the article:
"Threads is going to pose a huge threat to Twitter because it's coming from the Meta and Instagram family of apps," said Drew Benvie, CEO of social media consultancy Battenhall.
"Instagram has 2 billion users compared to around 250 million of Twitter, so it's about ten times bigger already. If only one-in-ten Instagram users tries using Threads, it will overtake Twitter in the blink of an eye."
I have no opinion about Meta's threads. If it takes over, I'll move to it just like everyone moved from My Space to Facebook.
That said, this is not the first time that Meta (Facebook) has come out with a "killer" app."
From the Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitters-challenges-heat-up-as-meta-prepares-rival-app-this-week-cd4de69d
Instagram has been used by Meta to launch a Snapchat competitor in 2016 with the Stories feature and a TikTok rival in 2020 with the Reels feature.
Neither of these apps was successful in killing off those competitors.
And before you drone on and on about Musk, Evan Spiegel, SNAP's founder and CEO, is far more unstable than Musk. The guy has serious issues. And yet, FB/Instagram could not knock off SNAP.
So, unless Meta's threads app has something unique about it that makes it worth moving, I'm not holding my breath that this will change anything.
Or, are there enough progressives like Brew that are demanding government censorship of social media that will cause a mass move to Meta? If you believe this, did we forget that just last year, before Musk took over Twitter, the pro-censorship crowd hated, absolutely hated, Zuck? Now he is their savior!
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Or, are there enough progressives like Brew that are demanding government censorship of social media that will cause a mass move to Meta? If you believe this, did we forget that just last year, before Musk took over Twitter, the pro-censorship crowd hated, absolutely hated, Zuck? Now he is their savior!
I literally have no idea what you're talking about, but if you think Musk gives a single solitary sh*t about free speech you're out of your damn mind.
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I literally have no idea what you're talking about, but if you think Musk gives a single solitary sh*t about free speech you're out of your damn mind.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-free-speech-matt-taibbi-substack/673698/and
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I have no opinion about Meta's threads. If it takes over, I'll move to it just like everyone moved from My Space to Facebook.
That said, this is not the first time that Meta (Facebook) has come out with a "killer" app."
I don't pretend to know whether Threads will replace or significantly diminish Twitter, but I would suggest today's environment is vastly different from that of 2016. Twitter is significantly weaker and users are particularly motivated to search for an alternative, especially in light of the new limits - which are looking less temporary - and the move to put Tweetdeck behind a paywall.
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I think the issue is "Threads" like FB's version of Stories or Reels would require people to be FB users. I think thats the biggest hurdle. I would imagine the overlap of regular Twitter users and regular FB users is not super clean.
For example, I use Twitter TONS for news and information. But even though I have had a FB account for 15 years, I don't go on more than once a month, if that. So I'm not going to migrate over to that. If it was a Twitter competitor that was a new tab or function on something I use regularly like IG, then I could see the appeal.
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Lol, can you imagine, sitting here today and thinking that the Matt Taibbi "Twitter Files" gave any meaningful insight into Twitter's pre-Musk business practices?
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I think the issue is "Threads" like FB's version of Stories or Reels would require people to be FB users. I think thats the biggest hurdle. I would imagine the overlap of regular Twitter users and regular FB users is not super clean.
Is this true? I've seen that all you need is an Instagram account.
Not sure about the overlap between Twitter and Insta users, but as has been noted, there are about eight times more Insta users than Twitter users.
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Lol, can you imagine, sitting here today and thinking that the Matt Taibbi "Twitter Files" gave any meaningful insight into Twitter's pre-Musk business practices?
I was pretty surprised to see that goverment agencies were telling twitter who to censor. I always assumed it was more of a like-minded approach rather than twitter censoring at the behest of these entities.
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Threads is live - a little ahead of time.
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3985821-instagram-launches-twitter-killer-threads-text-app
Instagram has launched Threads, its short-posting text app, as Meta (NASDAQ:META) chief Mark Zuckerberg takes on Elon Musk and a reeling Twitter (TWTR).
After signaling a launch expected for Thursday morning, with preorder links set up only for the iOS Threads app, Meta released its app Wednesday evening on Apple's App Store as well as an Android app for Google Play.
"Let's do this," Zuckerberg said. "Welcome to Threads."
As with Twitter, users can post short text and links, as well as repost messages from others and reply to posts. Threads users can use their existing Instagram usernames to bring information over, including lists of followers.
The timing of the launch is fortuitous for Meta Platforms (META), as recent technical changes at Twitter (TWTR) from owner Elon Musk have frustrated some longtime users of the platform.
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Good timing, Twitter managed to largely delist themselves from Google. People will be looking for an alternative when they can't find what they're looking for.
These Twitter own goals are pretty funny.
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Good timing, Twitter managed to largely delist themselves from Google. People will be looking for an alternative when they can't find what they're looking for.
These Twitter own goals are pretty funny.
Oh no...you know who will re-enter the topic...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW9yUPVXgAQ1LEh?format=jpg&name=small)
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Oh no...you know who will re-enter the topic...
My head cannon is that the mods pay them to keep the drama flowing
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10 million Threads sign-ups in the first 7 hours. Obviously, way way way too early to tell how many more will join or how many will be frequent users.
But Zuck is crowing.
“It’ll take some time, but I think there should be a public conversations app with 1 billion+ people on it,” Zuckerberg said on the app Wednesday night. “Twitter has had the opportunity to do this but hasn’t nailed it. Hopefully we will.”
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10 million Threads sign-ups in the first 7 hours. Obviously, way way way too early to tell how many more will join or how many will be frequent users.
But Zuck is crowing.
“It’ll take some time, but I think there should be a public conversations app with 1 billion+ people on it,” Zuckerberg said on the app Wednesday night. “Twitter has had the opportunity to do this but hasn’t nailed it. Hopefully we will.”
Lot of work to be done there to make it functional
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Lot of work to be done there to make it functional
Agree totally. I signed up and it's just one big jumble. For now, Zuck is happy to have something to troll Elon about, but sooner than later Threads has to be a lot better or it'll be irrelevant.
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Not sure if it's true because I don't have any interest in signing up to find out for myself, but I'm seeing an awful lot of people sharing screenshots from a Threads FAQ explaining that there's no way to turn off a non-chronological, algo-produced feed, i.e. the damn thing is somehow, by design, worse than twitter which at least gives you a "following" tab.
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Not sure if it's true because I don't have any interest in signing up to find out for myself, but I'm seeing an awful lot of people sharing screenshots from a Threads FAQ explaining that there's no way to turn off a non-chronological, algo-produced feed, i.e. the damn thing is somehow, by design, worse than twitter which at least gives you a "following" tab.
Right. So they are basically using the Facebook algorithm, which everyone hates. If they can't do the chronological thing, I think that's going to annoy a lot of people.
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Right. So they are basically using the Facebook algorithm, which everyone hates. If they can't do the chronological thing, I think that's going to annoy a lot of people.
Agree. It’ll be a no go for me if I can’t get chronological info
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Musk threatening to sue Zuck over Threads. How predictable.
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Musk threatening to sue Zuck over Threads. How predictable.
Thought they were going to settle this in the octagon, like the manly men they are.
Weak, Elon. Weak.
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Elon Musk: Patent Troll
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Thought they were going to settle this in the octagon, like the manly men they are.
Weak, Elon. Weak.
Who do you want to see on the undercard?
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Who do you want to see on the undercard?
Buffett v Gates
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Who do you want to see on the undercard?
Goodell vs Portnoy
Loser leaves town match
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Prighozin v Putin. Appropriate to this due to their involvement in Russian bot farms.
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Musk threatening to sue Zuck over Threads. How predictable.
If he’s suing that means he sees it as a legitimate threat
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Thought they were going to settle this in the octagon, like the manly men they are.
Weak, Elon. Weak.
Imagine a person being such a douche that you have to cheer for Zuck
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Imagine a person being such a douche that you have to cheer for Zuck
SMOD 2023 is still the 3rd option.
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Imagine a person being such a douche that you have to cheer for Zuck
I can imagine that. I voted for Biden, after all.
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If he’s suing that means he sees it as a legitimate threat
(https://images2.imgbox.com/2b/5a/cwwYLWSR_o.png) (https://imgbox.com/cwwYLWSR)
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That letter is a comically empty threat.
Vintage lawyer-placating-crazy-client stuff.
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That letter is a comically empty threat.
Vintage lawyer-placating-crazy-client stuff.
You knew Pudding Fingers presidential bid was doomed when he launched on Twitter with Elon
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I love that Elon is complaining zuck hired the guys Elon fired because he didn't need that many people. ;D
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You knew Pudding Fingers Scott Walker Part II's presidential bid was doomed when he launched on Twitter with Elon
FIFY
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FIFY
kinda feels like Walker outperformed Florida Man, tbh.
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I love that Elon is complaining zuck hired the guys Elon fired because he didn't need that many people. ;D
And he fired them in the most antagonistic way possible. Smart.
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Threads feels like an early access steam game that's still in alpha. Wonder why they rushed it out instead of waiting until it was more polished?
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$$$$$
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$$$$$
How? Data mining can't be that much if the users aren't actually using it.
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Threads feels like an early access steam game that's still in alpha. Wonder why they rushed it out instead of waiting until it was more polished?
Opportunity was ripe with the Twitter meltdown last weekend. People have been looking for an alternative for a long time.
I was skeptical and still am, but less and less each moment. A LOT of people I know from Twitter have jumped and have been active. All the other alternatives didn’t see the average person jump and be this active.
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Have they made a chronological timeline available yet?
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Have they made a chronological timeline available yet?
No, and I don’t think it’s happening soon
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In today's NYT DealBook newsletter:
Why Threads poses an antitrust conundrum
The rivalry between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk went into overdrive this week after Meta rolled out Threads, a Twitter rival that on its first day became the most rapidly downloaded app ever.
In an era of tighter antitrust scrutiny of Big Tech in the United States, in Europe and elsewhere, what questions does Meta’s effort to extend its social media reach raise about the industry’s ability to expand into new areas — even when players build new services themselves, rather than buy a smaller foe?
Size matters, but it’s just one factor. Threads “sets two antitrust instincts against each other,” Tim Wu, an architect of the Biden administration’s antitrust policy and now a professor at Columbia Law School, told DealBook.
Challenging Twitter’s dominance is positive. “Generally, we’d like the big companies to be taking each other on, not just sitting in their little bubbles raking in the cash,” Wu said. By contrast, Meta already dominates the social media landscape through Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp. Expanding that empire and enabling it to accumulate more data, he said, “is hard to be that cheerful about.”
Regulators will want to know how Meta is gaining market share: by offering a better product, or by using the advantages of scale to unfairly crush Twitter? Threads is integrated into Instagram, giving it potential access to roughly two billion monthly active users. Another sticky issue: Users have to delete their Instagram account to cancel their Threads account. (It’s unclear how the Federal Trade Commission, which has vowed to crack down on firms that make opting out of a service too onerous, might view this arrangement.)
Data concerns loom large. Threads isn’t available in the European Union, where privacy watchdogs have long been concerned with how Meta handles users’ information. On Tuesday, the bloc’s top court backed an antitrust investigation of Meta over data privacy violations, concluding that data is a decisive factor in establishing market power.
Being big doesn’t run afoul of antitrust law. Organic growth is not a problem, Nancy Rose, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a former economist in the Justice Department’s antitrust division, told DealBook. She is “sympathetic” to the notion that it would be better for a new player, rather than a tech giant, to challenge Twitter but believes Meta is “a credible competitor.” The company has a “jump start,” Rose said, but smaller alternatives like Mastodon have had trouble taking off precisely because they don’t.
“The key is network effects,” said Doug Melamed, a Stanford Law School professor and former antitrust official at the Justice Department. The utility of Meta’s products to consumers increases as more users sign up. Leveraging them to enhance the quality of Threads would not in and of itself violate antitrust laws, Melamed said.
“There’s a narrative out there that anything a tech company does is bad,” said Daniel Francis, who teaches law at New York University and is a former deputy director of the F.T.C.’s Bureau of Competition. He argues that consumer unhappiness with changes to Twitter drove people to find an alternative. “The Threads example shows that big tech companies can also be valuable entrants, bringing new competitive pressure,” Francis said.
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https://www.visualcapitalist.com/meet-the-competing-apps-battling-for-twitters-market-share/
(https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Twitter-Rivals_03.png)
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While Threads has surpassed 100 million users in a matter of days -- by far the fastest to 100 million of any app in history, according to WSJ, and nearly two months faster than ChatGPT reached that level -- Twitter's traffic is decreasing, according to Cloudflare's CEO.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/9/23788906/twitters-traffic-is-taking-a-dive-according-to-cloudflares-ceo?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230710&instance_id=97138&nl=dealbook®i_id=108420427&segment_id=138814&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
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Let’s face it. This is not a reaction to Twitter - it is all about Musk.
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Elon seems to be holding up well.
https://tinyurl.com/ynpshazt
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Elon seems to be holding up well.
https://tinyurl.com/ynpshazt
Either he's welly and truly cracking up, or he forgot to log into one of his burners.
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The Taliban remains firmly Team Elon.
https://www.newsweek.com/taliban-leader-praises-twitter-anas-haqqani-1812050
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I think Zuck overplayed his hand. Elon or not, the toxicity I enjoy on Twitter wasn't cultivated overnight
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Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I’d much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?
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Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I’d much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?
That’s how bad it is. Really amazing Musk let it happen. They’ll teach classes on it
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Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I’d much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?
Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.
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Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.
(https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa-1.jpg)
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Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I’d much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?
And that’s just shows how much people despise Elon. The dude can’t stay out of his own way.
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Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.
Wow, you think there are that many progressives?
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Screw musk and his toxic stupid app! I’d much rather go to threads where the apps creator only influenced a presidential election, sold users information and then would own Facebook, instagram and theoretically a newer more popular twitter. Controlling the news anyone?
Like Putin and Prigozhin, there is no good guy.
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Wow, you think there are that many progressives?
81 million of em. 🙄
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You say progressive. I say rational lovers of democracy.
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You say progressive. I say rational lovers of democracy.
Rational people don't spend a lot of time on social media.
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The number of views for Tucker Carlson's new show on Twitter has dropped by 86% since its launch
https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-on-twitter-views-drop-86-percent-since-launch-2023-7?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230711&instance_id=97225&nl=dealbook®i_id=108420427&segment_id=138985&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Earlier this year, Tucker Carlson went from Fox News' most popular primetime host to a fired ex-employee.
He at first seemed to recover quickly.
The famous conservative television personality launched a new show, Tucker on Twitter, which debuted in June with what appeared to be strong ratings. His first show garnered more than 26 million "video views," a Twitter metric that counts a view as anyone who watches a video for more than 2 seconds.
It's not the most reliable metric for the popularity of a show since many people might just be scrolling past it. But whatever the faults of the metric, it has declined significantly over the course of his last eight shows. His most recent show, for instance, only got 3.8 million video views.
That's an 86% drop.
Carlson's video views on Twitter — which are no longer publicly available due to a policy change at Twitter — were first reported by Matt Binder, a reporter with digital news site Mashable, who told Insider he accessed them by using an old version of the Twitter app for Android.
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Rational people don't spend a lot of time on social media.
I dont know that this is true. You may have a point about people that get into 'comment' fighting or think the comment section represents the real world. But social media is full of normal people.
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Running to Zuckerberg to own Musk, very progressive.
This just shows how much dislike there is for the 'product enhancements' on twitter. If the product remained good/consistent, people would gripe but ultimately wouldn't change their behavior/actions.
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Let’s face it. This is not a reaction to Twitter - it is all about Musk.
I don't think this is the case at all. The problem is that the main "tweeters" are frustrated because their comments have become less manageable now that prioritization is given to blue checks, which are oftentimes just spammers. On top of it, they lost their blue checks, which was a sign they were actually who they said they were.
I will stay on Twitter as long as the ones I care to follow stay there. When they migrate over to Threads or another platform, I will follow.
Of course Twitter had problems before Musk got there. But he has literally made the platform worse. That's why people are leaving.
This just shows how much dislike there is for the 'product enhancements' on twitter. If the product remained good/consistent, people would gripe but ultimately wouldn't change their behavior/actions.
Correct.
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The number of views for Tucker Carlson's new show on Twitter has dropped by 86% since its launch
https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-on-twitter-views-drop-86-percent-since-launch-2023-7?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230711&instance_id=97225&nl=dealbook®i_id=108420427&segment_id=138985&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
Earlier this year, Tucker Carlson went from Fox News' most popular primetime host to a fired ex-employee.
He at first seemed to recover quickly.
The famous conservative television personality launched a new show, Tucker on Twitter, which debuted in June with what appeared to be strong ratings. His first show garnered more than 26 million "video views," a Twitter metric that counts a view as anyone who watches a video for more than 2 seconds.
It's not the most reliable metric for the popularity of a show since many people might just be scrolling past it. But whatever the faults of the metric, it has declined significantly over the course of his last eight shows. His most recent show, for instance, only got 3.8 million video views.
That's an 86% drop.
Carlson's video views on Twitter — which are no longer publicly available due to a policy change at Twitter — were first reported by Matt Binder, a reporter with digital news site Mashable, who told Insider he accessed them by using an old version of the Twitter app for Android.
Yeesh.
I assume heisy will be along soon to dispute this
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I dont know that this is true. You may have a point about people that get into 'comment' fighting or think the comment section represents the real world. But social media is full of normal people.
Agreed 1000%. I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter. Especially when traveling or other down time. But I can't remember the last time I posted. Hell, I havent retweeted in years. But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment. There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.
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Agreed 1000%. I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter. Especially when traveling or other down time. But I can't remember the last time I posted. Hell, I havent retweeted in years. But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment. There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.
You are assuming you are rational :D
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Agreed 1000%. I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter. Especially when traveling or other down time. But I can't remember the last time I posted. Hell, I havent retweeted in years. But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment. There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.
The key to a positive Twitter experience is to never, ever wade into the replies.
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Agreed 1000%. I often spend 1-2 hours a day on Twitter. Especially when traveling or other down time. But I can't remember the last time I posted. Hell, I havent retweeted in years. But I find it an immensely valuable tool for news, information, and entertainment. There are far more like me than the delusional fools who have hundreds of replies a day or whose entire identity is arguing or trolling about politics or sports on there.
So why spend so much time on an app that caters to these people? Not really challenging you, but I really don't get it. I hear so often from friends about the drivel on twitter and facebook, yet they spend so much time there. Uhhhh????
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So why spend so much time on an app that caters to these people? Not really challenging you, but I really don't get it. I hear so often from friends about the drivel on twitter and facebook, yet they spend so much time there. Uhhhh????
Because like Pakuni said, they hang out in the replies. If you don't dive into the replies you don't come across them. I remember getting really burnt out and annoyed by Twitter BS about a year ago. I stayed off the app for a few days, didn't go down any reply rabbit holes, and my experience was infinitely better. Replies are like comment sections of articles or news sites. They are ALWAYS a cesspool. But they are very easy to avoid. Rex Chapman might spend 94% of his waking hours replying to stuff on Twitter. But if you don't follow him and don't dive into replies of controversial or viral posts, you don't see him.
90% of the time people complaining about stuff they see on FB is postings by their own friends, families, or associates. Twitter is different in its span and content that you can quite easily curate your own experience.
Even the "For You" section of Twitter, which has conjured up much annoyance and complaints. You will see random accounts popping up, but if you don't read them or dive into the replies, they stop appearing shortly.
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Earlier, I said I had no opinion about threads. If it gains traction, I will switch.
I have a threads account, and I do not see that traction. It is just another version of Instagram with fewer features, no web-based site (meaning not available on Windows Computers), and it is also not available in the EU.
So, I agree with this story in yesterday's NYT. It does offer anything worthwhile, at least not yet. You have to wonder how long users will be patient with it.
Some have said it might do the opposite of what Zuck wants. It lights a fire under Twitter to heal itself faster than it would have,
Good read
July 11
Why the Early Success of Threads May Crash Into Reality
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/technology/threads-zuckerberg-meta-google-plus.html
Mark Zuckerberg has used Meta’s might to push Threads to a fast start — but that may only work up to a point.
What comes next is much harder. Mr. Zuckerberg needs people to be able to find friends and influencers on Threads in the serendipitous and sometimes weird ways that Twitter managed to accomplish. He needs to make sure Threads isn’t filled with spam and grifters. He needs people to be patient about app updates that are in the works.
In short, he needs users to find Threads compelling enough to keep coming back.
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Earlier, I said I had no opinion about threads. If it gains traction, I will switch.
I have a threads account, and I do not see that traction. It is just another version of Instagram with fewer features, no web-based site (meaning not available on Windows Computers), and it is also not available in the EU.
So, I agree with this story in yesterday's NYT. It does offer anything worthwhile, at least not yet. You have to wonder how long users will be patient with it.
Some have said it might do the opposite of what Zuck wants. It lights a fire under Twitter to heal itself faster than it would have,
Good read
July 11
Why the Early Success of Threads May Crash Into Reality
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/technology/threads-zuckerberg-meta-google-plus.html
Mark Zuckerberg has used Meta’s might to push Threads to a fast start — but that may only work up to a point.
What comes next is much harder. Mr. Zuckerberg needs people to be able to find friends and influencers on Threads in the serendipitous and sometimes weird ways that Twitter managed to accomplish. He needs to make sure Threads isn’t filled with spam and grifters. He needs people to be patient about app updates that are in the works.
In short, he needs users to find Threads compelling enough to keep coming back.
We agree - that all could happen. Absolutely.
Of course, the exact opposite could happen, too. Threads could become more user-friendly, it could continue to grow exponentially, and Twitter, already a mega-loser for its owner, could end up being worth as much as a jelly donut.
Or it could be something in between those extremes. Because, you know, we don't know.
Which is why some of us don't make declarative statements like: "All hail the soon-to-be billionaire king-maker" Tucker, because his first Twitter lie-fest had a gajillion views (but 86% fewer than that now, only a month later).
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Which is why some of us don't make declarative statements like: "All hail the soon-to-be billionaire king-maker" Tucker, because his first Twitter lie-fest had a gajillion views (but 86% fewer than that now, only a month later).
His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.
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His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.
interviewing Andrew Tate was a good way to corner the incel audience.
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His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.
Do we need to explain again why Twitter "views" don't mean "viewers"?
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Do we need to explain again why Twitter "views" don't mean "viewers"?
Based on all of his history here? Yes.
And will probably have to do so a couple additional times too.
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Do we need to explain again why Twitter "views" don't mean "viewers"?
Before I brought it up a lot of the people were getting woodys that his views were down, including Viagra82.
So, explain it to them like they are a five-year old or Golden Retriver.
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His latest show dropped yesterday, which is less than 16 hours old, already has 500% more views than his previous show.
How many kings has he made yet with his new "views"? Again, you're the one who has claimed to know how this will all turn out.
And I do like that the guy who whines about name-calling comes up with an extremely clever one about a johnson. Because of course.
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Before I brought it up a lot of the people were getting woodys that his views were down, including Viagra82.
So, explain it to them like they are a five-year old or Golden Retriver.
🤣🤣🤣
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interviewing Andrew Tate was a good way to corner the incel audience.
Interviewing a rapist and human trafficker is a bad thing?
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How many kings has he made yet with his new "views"? Again, you're the one who has claimed to know how this will all turn out.
And I do like that the guy who whines about name-calling comes up with an extremely clever one about a johnson. Because of course.
And of course, Ziggy found said "joke" funny.
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And of course, Ziggy found said "joke" funny.
You must be miserable. Enjoy a joke.
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You must be miserable. Enjoy a joke.
I do. But a prerequisite is that they are actually funny and/or clever.
I rank dick jokes just slightly higher than pig emojis on that scale, but both are pretty low.
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Interviewing a rapist and human trafficker is a bad thing?
Not if you're Tucker Carlson and understand that your primary audience reveres a rapist.
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Not if you're Tucker Carlson and understand that your primary audience reveres a rapist.
I have joked to my wife that the only way desantis gets back in the race is to assault a woman live on Facebook.
You are correct - for some odd reason this appeals to one side.
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I have joked to my wife that the only way desantis gets back in the race is to assault a woman live on Facebook.
You are correct - for some odd reason this appeals to one side.
Sounds like it should be an Episode of Black Mirror
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Not if you're Tucker Carlson and understand that your primary audience reveres a rapist.
don't think his primary audience "revered" billy bob too much, eyn'a?
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I do. But a prerequisite is that they are actually funny and/or clever.
I rank dick jokes just slightly higher than pig emojis on that scale, but both are pretty low.
Isn't a viagra joke more sex leaning than dick? If anything, calling an older gentleman viagra implies he's getting it in at a high volume which at any age should be applauded. Wouldn't you agree?
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don't think his primary audience "revered" billy bob too much, eyn'a?
But is does revere 45 who is a rapist and admitted as much
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Wall Street Journal: Tesla investigating Musk for possible misuse of company funds.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-glass-house-for-elon-musk-sparks-internal-tesla-probe-9a121db5?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230712&instance_id=97321&nl=dealbook®i_id=108420427&segment_id=139084&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa
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Some of you should sign up for twitter blue. Looks like you can make a decent amount of coin by tweeting all day.
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THREADS DAILY USERS DOWN 20% FROM SATURDAY AND USER TIME SPENT DOWN 50%: CNBC
The problem with threads is ...
* They don't have a web-based app (meaning you cannot use it on a PC)
* Not available in the EU
* Cannot sort or search your news feed. Meaning you get the threads randomly
Meta knows this and says they will eventually fix all these issues. But to roll it now in its current state makes it a worse experience than Twitter.
So, not surprised everyone ran to it, saw it was not good and left.
The question is ... will everyone return when it gets better? Or did they have their chance, and they blew it?
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Yeah, I think a lot of people went over there and created accounts, poked around for a bit, and went back to Twitter both because of the reasons you stated, and because people are resistant to change in general.
Unless a significant number of people permanently migrate over to it, it will become Meta's version of Google+.
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THREADS DAILY USERS DOWN 20% FROM SATURDAY AND USER TIME SPENT DOWN 50%: CNBC
The problem with threads is ...
* They don't have a web-based app (meaning you cannot use it on a PC)
* Not available in the EU
* Cannot sort or search your news feed. Meaning you get the threads randomly
Meta knows this and says they will eventually fix all these issues. But to roll it now in its current state makes it a worse experience than Twitter.
So, not surprised everyone ran to it, saw it was not good and left.
The question is ... will everyone return when it gets better? Or did they have their chance, and they blew it?
They screwed the pooch. It's like when video games release an unfinished buggy mess of a game with the plan on patching it over time. It kills the player base and it will never recover. I don't think that strategy = $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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THREADS DAILY USERS DOWN 20% FROM SATURDAY AND USER TIME SPENT DOWN 50%: CNBC
The problem with threads is ...
* They don't have a web-based app (meaning you cannot use it on a PC)
* Not available in the EU
* Cannot sort or search your news feed. Meaning you get the threads randomly
Meta knows this and says they will eventually fix all these issues. But to roll it now in its current state makes it a worse experience than Twitter.
So, not surprised everyone ran to it, saw it was not good and left.
The question is ... will everyone return when it gets better? Or did they have their chance, and they blew it?
IMO, the migration to Threads en masse will depend entirely on Twitter. If Musk makes positive changes most people will stay on Twitter. If he continues to trip over his own dick and Threads improves people will move to Threads.
From what I've read and heard Threads doesn't really want to become Twitter. They're not interested in the political and societal discourse. So personally, I don't see a reason for anyone to be on Threads unless Twitter falls apart or Threads changes course and UX.
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IMO, the migration to Threads en masse will depend entirely on Twitter. If Musk makes positive changes most people will stay on Twitter. If he continues to trip over his own dick and Threads improves people will move to Threads.
Well...
Musk Shares Revenue with Far-Right Influencers
https://politicalwire.com/2023/07/13/musk-shares-revenue-with-far-right-influencers/
“On Thursday Twitter announced that it would begin sharing ad revenue with content creators on its platform for the first time. But the offer won’t apply to all creators,” the Washington Post reports.
“The first beneficiaries appear to be string of high profile far right influencers who tweeted before the announcement how much they’ve earned as part of the program.”
Self-proclaimed misogynist Andrew Tate says he was paid $20,000 under Elon Musk's content-creator plan
https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-tate-elon-musk-twitter-paid-content-creator-plan-2023-7
Paying a rapist and human trafficker is certainly on brand for Musk
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They screwed the pooch. It's like when video games release an unfinished buggy mess of a game with the plan on patching it over time. It kills the player base and it will never recover. I don't think that strategy = $$$$$$$$$$$$$
The reason that everyone (outside of Nintendo) follows this strategy is because it's literally money.
Get your early adopters on board, roll out features to all of them now that they've agreed to receive your marketing comms, lure content creators, then the rest follow. Tried and true.
Like Hards said: Social media follows the ~90/10 rule. Only 10% of people are compelling content creators. Way less than 10%, honestly. You win them over you win social media.
Collapse of social media platforms goes slow then fast. Threads may not be it, but there's blood in the water around Twitter.
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The reason that everyone (outside of Nintendo) follows this strategy is because it's literally money.
Get your early adopters on board, roll out features to all of them now that they've agreed to receive your marketing comms, lure content creators, then the rest follow. Tried and true.
Like Hards said: Social media follows the ~90/10 rule. Only 10% of people are compelling content creators. Way less than 10%, honestly. You win them over you win social media.
Collapse of social media platforms goes slow then fast. Threads may not be it, but there's blood in the water around Twitter.
100% Also, never complete the game because there is no financial incentive to do it. Unless the game has DLC that is planning on being sold the company has already sold most of the copies it will ever sell since there is a finite market.
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Well...
Musk Shares Revenue with Far-Right Influencers
https://politicalwire.com/2023/07/13/musk-shares-revenue-with-far-right-influencers/
“On Thursday Twitter announced that it would begin sharing ad revenue with content creators on its platform for the first time. But the offer won’t apply to all creators,” the Washington Post reports.
“The first beneficiaries appear to be string of high profile far right influencers who tweeted before the announcement how much they’ve earned as part of the program.”
Self-proclaimed misogynist Andrew Tate says he was paid $20,000 under Elon Musk's content-creator plan
https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-tate-elon-musk-twitter-paid-content-creator-plan-2023-7
Paying a rapist and human trafficker is certainly on brand for Musk
Using a Taylor Lorenz article is hilarious.
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Interviewing a rapist and human trafficker is a bad thing?
When was Bill Clinton interviewed?
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When was Bill Clinton interviewed?
He and Trump went back to back
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https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-twitters-cash-flow-still-negative-ad-revenue-drops-2023-07-15/
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Good thing Twitter exists to continuously correct the Washington Post.
They have some serious trust and safety issues.
You think Threads will fill this role?
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In one week -
Taylor Lorenz and her "far right" claim of twitter ad revenue.
Then the journalist who had no idea about Tracy Chapman.
Now Jennifer Rubin basing an entire column off the false and corrected claim of Florida population.
What is happening at the Washington Post these days?
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Similar Web reports that Threads enragement continues to collapse.
https://www.similarweb.com/blog/insights/social-media-news/threads-week/
* On its best day, July 7, Threads had more than 49 million daily active users on Android, worldwide, according to Similarweb estimates. That’s about 45% of the usage of Twitter, which had more than 109 million active Android users that day.
* By Friday, July 14, Threads was down to 23.6 million active users, or about 22% of Twitter’s audience.
* Usage in the US, which saw the most activity, peaked at about 21 minutes of engagement with the app on July 7. By July 14, that was down to a little over 6 minutes.
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Again this is not surprising as, in its current form, threads sucks! You cannot search, sort by your followers, or use a PC (which is a problem for content creators), and it is not available in the EU.
If threads wants to be the Twitter replacement, they have to fix all of this and more before 11:30 today, or everyone is going to lose interest in it and leave for good.
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Agree that Threads needs to fix stuff or fade into Bolivian.
Meanwhile, all kinds of people suing or threatening to sue Musk for misuse of TSLA funds, including to prop up the money-bleeding social-media company he didn't even want.
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Agree that Threads needs to fix stuff or fade into Bolivian.
Meanwhile, all kinds of people suing or threatening to sue Musk for misuse of TSLA funds, including to prop up the money-bleeding social-media company he didn't even want.
TSLA is up 136% this year.
TSLA market capitalization = $923 billion.
Toyota, Porsche, BYD, BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen, Ford, Ferrari, Honda COMBINED = $898 billion
Only left-wing sycophants more interested in "getting" Musk than making money are complaining.
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TSLA is up 136% this year.
TSLA market capitulation = $923 billion.
Toyota, Porsche, BYD, BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen, Ford, Ferrari, Honda COMBINED = $898 billion
Only left-wing syncopates more interested in "getting" Musk than making money are complaining.
What's a syncopate? The most recent lawsuit is by Tesla shareholders. A bunch of syncopates for sure. https://www.reuters.com/legal/tesla-directors-settle-lawsuit-over-compensation-735-mln-2023-07-17/
Also, it's market capitalization. "Capitulation" is when investors throw in the towel on investments they're convinced are losers. As you did with AAPL about 1,000% ago.
FWIW, I'm a TSLA shareholder. I like high-quality, blue-chip companies. I'm not involved in the lawsuit, though I see the point some of my fellow shareholders are making.
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What's a syncopate? The most recent lawsuit is by Tesla shareholders. A bunch of syncopates for sure. https://www.reuters.com/legal/tesla-directors-settle-lawsuit-over-compensation-735-mln-2023-07-17/
Also, it's market capitalization. "Capitulation" is when investors throw in the towel on investments they're convinced are losers. As you did with AAPL about 1,000% ago.
FWIW, I'm a TSLA shareholder. I like high-quality, blue-chip companies. I'm not involved in the lawsuit, though I see the point some of my fellow shareholders are making.
Thanks for correcting my spell-checker. Found something you’re good at.
The lawsuit that was settled this week was filed in 2020 and alleges actions that TSLA did as far back as 2017.
You wrote:
Meanwhile, all kinds of people suing or threatening to sue Musk for misuse of TSLA funds, including to prop up the money-bleeding social-media company he didn't even want.
This has nothing to do with Twitter.
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TSLA is up 136% this year.
TSLA market capitalization = $923 billion.
Toyota, Porsche, BYD, BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen, Ford, Ferrari, Honda COMBINED = $898 billion
Only left-wing sycophants more interested in "getting" Musk than making money are complaining.
All that really tells you is that people don't see Tesla as a car company. Because they're not. They're a battery and tech company.
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Thanks for correcting my spell-checker. Found something you’re good at.
The lawsuit that was settled this week was filed in 2020 and alleges actions that TSLA did as far back as 2017.
You wrote:
This has nothing to do with Twitter.
Hahahaha. Germans? Forget it he's rolling.
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Mea culpa. The most recent two lawsuits involving Musk and Twitter is over Elon's alleged lies to those he laid off ...
https://www.reuters.com/legal/twitter-again-sued-over-severance-pay-bias-during-layoffs-2023-07-18/
So many lawsuits, we need a scorecard!
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Threads is doomed!
July 21, 2023
Threads User Engagement Continues to Drop, Adding Urgency for New Features
https://www.wsj.com/articles/threads-user-engagement-continues-to-drop-adding-urgency-for-new-features-8ed2f384
Data show user engagement has fallen 70% as executives focus on options such as a chronological feed
For a second week in a row, the number of daily active users declined on Threads, falling to 13 million, down about 70% from a July 7 peak, according to estimates from market intelligence firm Sensor Tower.
The average time users spend on the iOS and Android apps has also decreased to four minutes from 19 minutes. The average time spent for Android users in the U.S. dropped to five minutes from a peak of 21 minutes on launch day, according to SimilarWeb, a digital data and analytics company.
Twitter’s daily active users remain steady at about 200 million, and average time spent is at 30 minutes a day, according to Sensor Tower estimates.
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Very bullish on Threads now
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Very bullish on Threads now
Meta is doomed.
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Threads is doomed!
July 21, 2023
Threads User Engagement Continues to Drop, Adding Urgency for New Features
https://www.wsj.com/articles/threads-user-engagement-continues-to-drop-adding-urgency-for-new-features-8ed2f384
Data show user engagement has fallen 70% as executives focus on options such as a chronological feed
For a second week in a row, the number of daily active users declined on Threads, falling to 13 million, down about 70% from a July 7 peak, according to estimates from market intelligence firm Sensor Tower.
The average time users spend on the iOS and Android apps has also decreased to four minutes from 19 minutes. The average time spent for Android users in the U.S. dropped to five minutes from a peak of 21 minutes on launch day, according to SimilarWeb, a digital data and analytics company.
Twitter’s daily active users remain steady at about 200 million, and average time spent is at 30 minutes a day, according to Sensor Tower estimates.
Not surprisingly. Zuck took a shot and released an unfinished and untested product. Crash and burn.
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Not surprisingly. Zuck took a shot and released an unfinished and untested product. Crash and burn.
Agree. I was agnostic about threads ... if everyone wanted to move that way, fine by me.
But they released something that was not ready for prime time. So everyone is leaving in droves. When it is ready for prime time in a few months, can they entice them to return? Is this ever happened before? (a new tech bombed on opening and then rose from its ashes to dominate?)
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That's why I'm more bullish on Blue Sky. Keep it small while you get all the key users/content creators you need, then open to the public when all the bumps are ironed out.
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Sounds like Elon is rebranding Twitter as X.
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Sounds like Elon is rebranding Twitter as X.
That’ll fix it
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Who doesn't like X-rated tweets?
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Sounds like Elon is rebranding Twitter as X.
Genius. The smartest thing to do when you have one of the most recognizable logos on the face of the earth is to ditch it for something no one will recognize. That will save Twitter. ;D
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The next guy that tells me this guy is a genius .... well ....
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Genius. The smartest thing to do when you have one of the most recognizable logos on the face of the earth is to ditch it for something no one will recognize. That will save Twitter. ;D
The next guy that tells me this guy is a genius .... well ....
Did you think the Google guys were also as wrong for rebranding as Alphabet?
How about Facebook for rebranding as Meta?
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Did you think the Google guys were also as wrong for rebranding as Alphabet?
How about Facebook for rebranding as Meta?
Google and Facebook didn't rebrand, they reorganized their corporations. Facebook is still called facebook, and Google the same. Their URLs are still the same. Their logos are still the same.
Google is one of Alphabet's many products/companies. Facebook is one Meta's many products/companies.
Musk said he's getting rid of the bird and changing the name of twitter. It sounds like he's rebranding Twitter, not renaming the holding company.
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Will there be levels? Basic X, and a premium triple X?
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Did you think the Google guys were also as wrong for rebranding as Alphabet?
How about Facebook for rebranding as Meta?
When you go to Google, it's Google. When you go to Facebook, it's Facebook. They weren't stupid enough to change the names of their sacred cows.
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Will there be levels? Basic X, and a premium triple X?
Will X have an X rated section?
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https://www.businessinsider.com/history-behind-elon-musk-x-brand-that-may-replace-twitter-2023-7
The guy is nothing if not persistent
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Will X have an X rated section?
Did you see the porn site xvideos was trending yesterday after the announcement of the name change X?
LOL
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Did you see the porn site xvideos was trending yesterday after the announcement of the name change X?
LOL
Xvideos is a top 10 in the world. Xvideos v Twitter should be an equal-footing legal battle.
These Twitter own-goals are pretty funny.
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Maybe Musk knew about the porn site and just wanted to cash in on what he thinks will be an advertising windfall. Always thinking, that Elon.
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Did you see the porn site xvideos was trending yesterday after the announcement of the name change X?
LOL
Probably evangelicals checking to see if porn would be easier to get their hands on
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Will X have an X rated section?
What do you think triple x means, you nonce
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It’s like Elon saw Threads struggling and decided to help them out with this.
The logo is probably not legal to use. Also, he doesn’t even own the @X handle.
https://twitter.com/GrahamTheDev/status/1683380923058798593?s=20
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Betcha threads traffic goes up again once there is a forced update to the twitter app.
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It’s like Elon saw Threads struggling and decided to help them out with this.
The logo is probably not legal to use. Also, he doesn’t even own the @X handle.
https://twitter.com/GrahamTheDev/status/1683380923058798593?s=20
Actually if you read down in that topic, people respond with a really compelling case showing how the X logo is fine even if it was slightly modified from a copy-writted font.
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Actually if you read down in that topic, people respond with a really compelling case showing how the X logo is fine even if it was slightly modified from a copy-writted font.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. May have jumped the gun there.
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This one cracked me up a little:
(https://video-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/361576362_10223451538940683_3795904185238703940_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=gxZQAIBPyTEAX8ugMsu&_nc_ht=video-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AfAa9mGtGakqumZ-xGjLiwa03zHRLrGxnRZBQojiDbSTIQ&oe=64C451CE)
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Lovely plumage.
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https://twitter.com/gaetaamy/status/1683488378942021638?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
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In 2018 Musical.ly app was extremely popular. It had more than 100 million daily active users.
It rebranded itself as TikTok
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/2/17644260/musically-rebrand-tiktok-bytedance-douyin
Was this also a mistake?
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In 2018 Musical.ly app was extremely popular. It had more than 100 million daily active users.
It rebranded itself as TikTok
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/2/17644260/musically-rebrand-tiktok-bytedance-douyin
Was this also a mistake?
No, but that's because the product evolved from a karaoke app to a larger social media one. The previous name didn't make much sense.
I can't really think of an equivalent where the company that is synonomous with a product is going to completely rebrand. But whatever...it's his company and can do whatever he wants. If it flops, its only costing himself money.
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No, but that's because the product evolved from a karaoke app to a larger social media one. The previous name didn't make much sense.
I can't really think of an equivalent where the company that is synonomous with a product is going to completely rebrand. But whatever...it's his company and can do whatever he wants. If it flops, its only costing himself money.
He’s ok losing money because he believes in free speech
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No, but that's because the product evolved from a karaoke app to a larger social media one. The previous name didn't make much sense.
I can't really think of an equivalent where the company that is synonomous with a product is going to completely rebrand. But whatever...it's his company and can do whatever he wants. If it flops, its only costing himself money.
But that is behind the change to X. He is trying to make it the "everything app" from videos and images (going right back at Instagram after Threads), news, to making it a way to transfer money ... bank.
To be clear, not saying this will be successful, saying this is what he is trying to do. So, the rebrand is for the same reason that Musical.ly rebranded to TikTok.
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But that is behind the change to X. He is trying to make it the "everything app" from pictures and images (going right back at Instagram after Threads), news, to making it a way to transfer money ... bank.
To be clear, not saying this will be successful, saying this is what he is trying to do. So, the rebrand is for the same reason that Musical.ly rebranded to TikTok.
And because every choice he’s made at Twitter has been wrong
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But that is behind the change to X. He is trying to make it the "everything app" from pictures and images (going right back at Instagram after Threads), news, to making it a way to transfer money ... bank.
To be clear, not saying this will be successful, saying this is what he is trying to do. So, the rebrand is for the same reason that Musical.ly rebranded to TikTok.
I guess time will tell.
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And because every choice he’s made at Twitter has been wrong
even the non-choices ... had he not changed the name that would have been wrong too.
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I can't really think of an equivalent where the company that is synonymous with a product is going to completely rebrand.
Stellantis is the only one I can think of, and it's not quite the same. Oh, and then there's the Warriors.
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Anyway you cut it, Elon’s tenure as head of X has been a colossal failure. As soon as another app similar is available, X is doomed
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Anyway you cut it, Elon’s tenure as head of X has been a colossal failure. As soon as another app similar is available, X is doomed
So threads is now doomed?
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So threads is now doomed?
Could be, but we definitely know X is doomed. Except for the fanboys. They’ll stay. They remind me of the Trump Cult. Eerily similar
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Could be, but we definitely know X is doomed. Except for the fanboys. They’ll stay. They remind me of the Trump Cult. Eerily similar
Truth Social is doomed
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Truth Social is doomed
No, the cult followers will remain
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When I'm ready for to buy an EV, looking forward to buying a teXla.
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When I'm ready for to buy an EV, looking forward to buying a teXla.
When you become rich enough to buy a ticket on a rocket, SpaceX is set to go.
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When you become rich enough to buy a ticket on a rocket, SpaceX is set to go.
Those will blow up and hopefully take some billionaires out
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Those will blow up and hopefully take some billionaires out
SpaceX is doomed
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What Musk has planned for Twitter... Now X. And why he believed a rebrand made sense.
Don't know if he can achieve this, but he truly is trying to make the “everything app.”
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https://twitter.com/zaimirii/status/1683177215318433792?s=46&t=uSnZlSLOtzvp-jqg6eHG4Q
Ad revenue for content creators
A dating platform
An ecommerce platform
Integration with food ordering apps
New focus on audio and video content
A UPI-like payment and banking system
Smart TV app
Financial Institution
"If done right, X would become half of the global financial system."
The vision is to create the most efficient database for the thing that is money.
Goals:
• Least amount of fraud
• Everything real time
• Seamless integration
The bookmarking feature is underwhelming and is receiving updates:
• Bookmark straight from timeline
• Search feature for bookmarks
• Weekly email with saved bookmarks
Twitter will show shadowbans directly on user's profiles.
It will include:
• The active shadowban
• The reason for the ban
• Potentially a solution
Updates have been made to videos on the platform.
The maximum video length is 10 hours.
Picture-in-picture video watching is enabled.
Livestreaming video has a high priority and will be implemented soon. (taking on Youtube)
Easy scam reporting
The current reporting system is very long and cluttered.
It will be made easier to report accounts.
Abuse will be heavily punished.
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What Musk has planned for Twitter... Now X. And why he believed a rebrand made sense.
Don't know if he can achieve this, but he truly is trying to make the “everything app.”
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https://twitter.com/zaimirii/status/1683177215318433792?s=46&t=uSnZlSLOtzvp-jqg6eHG4Q
Ad revenue for content creators
A dating platform
An ecommerce platform
Integration with food ordering apps
New focus on audio and video content
A UPI-like payment and banking system
Smart TV app
Financial Institution
"If done right, X would become half of the global financial system."
The vision is to create the most efficient database for the thing that is money.
Goals:
• Least amount of fraud
• Everything real time
• Seamless integration
The bookmarking feature is underwhelming and is receiving updates:
• Bookmark straight from timeline
• Search feature for bookmarks
• Weekly email with saved bookmarks
Twitter will show shadowbans directly on user's profiles.
It will include:
• The active shadowban
• The reason for the ban
• Potentially a solution
Updates have been made to videos on the platform.
The maximum video length is 10 hours.
Picture-in-picture video watching is enabled.
Livestreaming video has a high priority and will be implemented soon. (taking on Youtube)
Easy scam reporting
The current reporting system is very long and cluttered.
It will be made easier to report accounts.
Abuse will be heavily punished.
No requirements or commitments to freedom of speech?
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What Musk has planned for Twitter... Now X. And why he believed a rebrand made sense.
Don't know if he can achieve this, but he truly is trying to make the “everything app.”
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https://twitter.com/zaimirii/status/1683177215318433792?s=46&t=uSnZlSLOtzvp-jqg6eHG4Q
Ad revenue for content creators
A dating platform
An ecommerce platform
Integration with food ordering apps
New focus on audio and video content
A UPI-like payment and banking system
Smart TV app
Financial Institution
"If done right, X would become half of the global financial system."
The vision is to create the most efficient database for the thing that is money.
Goals:
• Least amount of fraud
• Everything real time
• Seamless integration
The bookmarking feature is underwhelming and is receiving updates:
• Bookmark straight from timeline
• Search feature for bookmarks
• Weekly email with saved bookmarks
Twitter will show shadowbans directly on user's profiles.
It will include:
• The active shadowban
• The reason for the ban
• Potentially a solution
Updates have been made to videos on the platform.
The maximum video length is 10 hours.
Picture-in-picture video watching is enabled.
Livestreaming video has a high priority and will be implemented soon. (taking on Youtube)
Easy scam reporting
The current reporting system is very long and cluttered.
It will be made easier to report accounts.
Abuse will be heavily punished.
This sounds like it will either take 10-20 years to implement well, in which case how society works will have fundamentally changed and all the above may be moot, or he will rush to implement a crappy iteration that will have everyone jumping ship for better alternatives.
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I have to say, it's gotta be tough being an Elon fanboy at this point. Dude is managing Twitter like Sideshow Bob at a rake factory, and they're still trying to justify why he's smart and will ultimately triumph. At some point, you just have to step back, look at all this, and think "WTF is he thinking?"
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I have to say, it's gotta be tough being an Elon fanboy at this point. Dude is managing Twitter like Sideshow Bob at a rake factory, and they're still trying to justify why he's smart and will ultimately triumph. At some point, you just have to step back, look at all this, and think "WTF is he thinking?"
Elon Fanboys are Doomed
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This sounds like it will either take 10-20 years to implement well, in which case how society works will have fundamentally changed and all the above may be moot, or he will rush to implement a crappy iteration that will have everyone jumping ship for better alternatives.
This what musk does. He is a great marketer and promoter. But frequently, his predictions and promises go unfulfilled or significantly delayed. Classic examples, from Tesla alone, include roadster 2, cybertruck and full self driving/robotaxis. But it gains him hype, headlines, support and investment
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This what musk does. He is a great marketer and promoter. But frequently, his predictions and promises go unfulfilled or significantly delayed. Classic examples, from Tesla alone, include roadster 2, cybertruck and full self driving/robotaxis. But it gains him hype, headlines, support and investment
Hyperloop
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Man, when Sesame Street is dunking on you....
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Man, when Sesame Street is dunking on you....
Sesame Street is woke. Defund PBS.
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Sesame Street is woke. Defund PBS.
Nothing new, Sesame Street has been woke for more than 50 years.
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Nothing new, Sesame Street has been woke for more than 50 years.
Except for Roosevelt Franklin
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Zuckerberg during the META earnings call:
"We saw unprecedented growth out the gate and more importantly, we're seeing more people coming back daily than I had expected. And now we're focused on retention and improving the basics. And then after that, we'll focus on growing the community to the scale that we think is going to be possible. Only after that we're going to focus on monetization.
"We've run this playbook many times before with Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp Stories, Reels and more. And this is as good of a start as it as we can hope for."
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Zuckerberg during the META earnings call:
"We saw unprecedented growth out the gate and more importantly, we're seeing more people coming back daily than I had expected. And now we're focused on retention and improving the basics. And then after that, we'll focus on growing the community to the scale that we think is going to be possible. Only after that we're going to focus on monetization.
"We've run this playbook many times before with Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp Stories, Reels and more. And this is as good of a start as it as we can hope for."
Unhinged
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FWIW ... META beat expectations for both earnings and revenue, and the stock went up 6.8% after hours.
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Zuck told the staff yesterday that over half the 100+ million threads signed ups have flat-out stopped using it.
That would include me. As I detailed in the posts above, the app is not ready for primetime.
Zuck is looking for “hooks” to get them back. Start with this … how about the app stop being a steaming pile of crap.
To be clear, I’m not saying threads will never be good. It probably will someday. But the massive hype got everyone to run to it now, only to discover that it is just not good. So Zuck wasted a huge opportunity. Can he get everyone back?
Can anyone name another app or technology that bombed on its initial launch and then rose from the ashes to become something significant? Right now, I can't.
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Meta plans retention 'hooks' for Threads as more than half of users leave app
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/meta-plans-retention-hooks-threads-more-than-half-users-leave-app-2023-07-28/
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Yes, as many have said, Threads made a big splash but wasn't an attractive enough platform to keep its users. I signed up, spent about 10 minutes on it, and haven't been back since. We'll see if they improve it enough to make it a viable competitor to TwiX. Not sure anybody here has said different.
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Meanwhile, as everyone is waiting for the impending death of Twitter/X, pretty much the opposite is happening.
@elonmusk 12:26 PM · Jul 28, 2023
𝕏 monthly users reach new high in 2023
elonmusk 1h
Also, this is after removal of a vast number of bots
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2I_J2sWsAE1mO-?format=jpg&name=large)
Also this
World of Statistics @stats_feed
Twitter / X monthly active users:
2022: 368 million
2023: 541 million
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Bloomberg’s Matt Levine on Twitter/X/Musk:
Musk didn’t want Twitter for its employees (whom he fired) or its code (which he trashes regularly) or its brand (which he abandoned) or its most dedicated users (whom he is working to drive away); he just wanted an entirely different Twitter-like service. Surely he could have built that for less than $44 billion? Mark Zuckerberg did!
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Meanwhile, as everyone is waiting for the impending death of Twitter/X, pretty much the opposite is happening.
@elonmusk 12:26 PM · Jul 28, 2023
𝕏 monthly users reach new high in 2023
elonmusk 1h
Also, this is after removal of a vast number of bots
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2I_J2sWsAE1mO-?format=jpg&name=large)
Also this
World of Statistics @stats_feed
Twitter / X monthly active users:
2022: 368 million
2023: 541 million
Removal of bots???
😂😂😂😂
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Meanwhile, as everyone is waiting for the impending death of Twitter/X, pretty much the opposite is happening.
@elonmusk 12:26 PM · Jul 28, 2023
𝕏 monthly users reach new high in 2023
elonmusk 1h
Also, this is after removal of a vast number of bots
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2I_J2sWsAE1mO-?format=jpg&name=large)
Also this
World of Statistics @stats_feed
Twitter / X monthly active users:
2022: 368 million
2023: 541 million
Surely he isn't exaggerating or fabricating numbers to inflate value.
He'd never do such a thing. Never, I say!
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Twitter stopped reporting MAUs in 2019 because it was a vanity stat that was consistently incorrect. I'm not surprised it's getting trotted back out.
The most obvious thing showing that MAUs continues to be incorrect is the steep dropoff in engagement on people's posts. It can't be both high MAUs and low engagement, right?
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July 29, 2023
Elon Musk’s Unmatched Power in the Stars
The tech billionaire has become the dominant power in satellite internet technology. The ways he is wielding that influence are raising global alarms.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/28/business/starlink.html
Mr. Musk, who leads SpaceX, Tesla and Twitter, has become the most dominant player in space as he has steadily amassed power over the strategically significant field of satellite internet. Yet faced with little regulation and oversight, his erratic and personality-driven style has increasingly worried militaries and political leaders around the world, with the tech billionaire sometimes wielding his authority in unpredictable ways.
Since 2019, Mr. Musk has sent SpaceX rockets into space nearly every week that deliver dozens of sofa-size satellites into orbit. The satellites communicate with terminals on Earth, so they can beam high-speed internet to nearly every corner of the planet. Today, more than 4,500 Starlink satellites are in the skies, accounting for more than 50 percent of all active satellites. They have already started changing the complexion of the night sky, even before accounting for Mr. Musk’s plans to have as many as 42,000 satellites in orbit in the coming years.
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Here's hoping he's not a super-villain.
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Here's hoping he's not a super-villain.
I thought that question was settled as yes many pages ago.
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I thought that question was settled as yes many pages ago.
By you, perhaps. I certainly never said it.
The guy is a multibillionaire ultra-egotist with a short temper. He already has extraordinary power and access to science that is fantastic but could also be dangerous. And he has the ear of powerful leaders of numerous nations, some of whom might not have America's best interests in mind.
I don't think he's a super-villain but, again, here's hoping he isn't.
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By you, perhaps. I certainly never said it.
The guy is a multibillionaire ultra-egotist with a short temper. He already has extraordinary power and access to science that is fantastic but could also be dangerous. And he has the ear of powerful leaders of numerous nations, some of whom might not have America's best interests in mind.
I don't think he's a super-villain but, again, here's hoping he isn't.
But at least he grabs billions and billions of our tax dollars. Shouldn’t the US government have a say in what he does with our money?
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If only running a social media platform was as easy as building a rocket.
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Twitter app officially had the forced update. Personally heading to thread’s permanently.
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And right on cue, Threads implemented a following tab today.
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Musk is suing a nonprofit group that tracks hate speech online, accusing the Center for Countering Digital Hate of trying to silence freedom of expression at X.
The group’s research found that the company had taken no action against many user accounts that were reported for hateful speech.
https://www.ft.com/content/96a06e9a-5fc8-4a28-ae10-5aed0138bfa2
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Musk is suing a nonprofit group that tracks hate speech online, accusing the Center for Countering Digital Hate of trying to silence freedom of expression at X.
The group’s research found that the company had taken no action against many user accounts that were reported for hateful speech.
https://www.ft.com/content/96a06e9a-5fc8-4a28-ae10-5aed0138bfa2
I may or may not agree with you.
As soon as you can (A) clearly tell me what is "hateful speech" and (B) tell me who should decide what is " hateful speech".
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I may or may not agree with you.
As soon as you can (A) clearly tell me what is "hateful speech" and (B) tell me who should decide what is " hateful speech".
It isn't me you'd be agreeing or disagreeing with. I just relayed the article for those who might be interested.
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I may or may not agree with you.
As soon as you can (A) clearly tell me what is "hateful speech" and (B) tell me who should decide what is " hateful speech".
Go on Twitter. The rise in anti-semitism has risen significantly since Elon took over. He reinstated avowed white nationalists as well. It isn’t stunning at all it has increased.
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Go on Twitter. The rise in anti-semitism has risen significantly since Elon took over. He reinstated avowed white nationalists as well. It isn’t stunning at all it has increased.
Just because you follow white supplements doesn't mean the rest of us do.
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Just because you follow white supplements doesn't mean the rest of us do.
Ziggy only follows male performance enhancing supplements.
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Ziggy only follows male performance enhancing supplements.
Your wife says that you should try some too, a'nal?
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Your wife says that you should try some too, a'nal?
"Too."
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"Too."
All the cool kids are doing it
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All the cool kids are doing it
And also Ziggy.
Source: Ziggy.
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"Too."
Yes, I have a prescription to Cialas for when I need it. The mental health and BP meds that I take can affect the big unit, so my doc prescribed them to me.
What is this, 2002, when ED jokes were funny?
"Party of tolerance." 🙄
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Can't tell if doing a bit or not.
Ah, well, when in doubt, pig emojis.
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Can't tell if doing a bit or not.
Ah, well, when in doubt, pig emojis.
Not a bit. Pakuni is being an ass (per usual) and I called him on it.
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Not a bit. Pakuni is being an ass (per usual) and I called him on it.
Ha.
99% of your Scoop game is personnel personal insults and clown/pig emjojis.
Put on your big boy pants and don't cry when you catch return fire.
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Ha.
99% of your Scoop game is personnel insults and clown/pig emjojis.
Put on your big boy pants and don't cry like a child when you catch return fire.
*Personal
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*Personal
My bad.
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My bad.
🐷🐽🐷🐖
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Ha.
99% of your Scoop game is personnel personal insults and clown/pig emjojis.
Put on your big boy pants and don't cry when you catch return fire.
Your wife said don't be mean.
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nm
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Probably a bad idea to to revive this thread, but I have a question as a non-twitter user....is it irreparably broken?
As a cubs fan, the best updates on rain delays used to come from twitter. Now I can google "Chicago Cubs" and see that they have a recent twitter post about the current rain delay and updates, but if I click the link go to the Cubs twitter page, it just gives me a bunch of random posts from 2016-2022. I can't see the most recent (especially about the rain delay)
https://twitter.com/Cubs
Is this just a side-effect of not being registered on twitter, or does it show this way for everyone? Regardless, dumb.
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Probably a bad idea to to revive this thread, but I have a question as a non-twitter user....is it irreparably broken?
As a cubs fan, the best updates on rain delays used to come from twitter. Now I can google "Chicago Cubs" and see that they have a recent twitter post about the current rain delay and updates, but if I click the link go to the Cubs twitter page, it just gives me a bunch of random posts from 2016-2022. I can't see the most recent (especially about the rain delay)
https://twitter.com/Cubs
Is this just a side-effect of not being registered on twitter, or does it show this way for everyone? Regardless, dumb.
The former. It updates normally if logged in
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Probably a bad idea to to revive this thread, but I have a question as a non-twitter user....is it irreparably broken?
As a cubs fan, the best updates on rain delays used to come from twitter. Now I can google "Chicago Cubs" and see that they have a recent twitter post about the current rain delay and updates, but if I click the link go to the Cubs twitter page, it just gives me a bunch of random posts from 2016-2022. I can't see the most recent (especially about the rain delay)
https://twitter.com/Cubs
Is this just a side-effect of not being registered on twitter, or does it show this way for everyone? Regardless, dumb.
Woulda thought the internet correct guy tm would be able to figure out twitter.
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Woulda thought the internet correct guy tm would be able to figure out twitter.
Nope. Never have, never will. But it's not working like it has before.
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Threads launched on July 5. It has now lost 85% of its users
August 20
https://www.wsj.com/tech/metas-threads-app-to-launch-web-version-as-rivalry-with-x-enters-new-stage-706e8241
Time spent on the Threads app is down about 85% more than a month after its launch, according to new data from SimilarWeb, a digital data and analytics firm. At its peak, Threads had nearly 50 million daily active users worldwide a few days after launching. That number has since dropped to less than 10 million, the firm said Sunday.
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Yep...it's going the way of Google+.
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Yep...it's going the way of Google+.
And maybe the way of Twitter...I mean X. Musk conceded today that it may fail after another round of major failures with Twitter.
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Probably a bad idea to to revive this thread, but I have a question as a non-twitter user....is it irreparably broken?
As a cubs fan, the best updates on rain delays used to come from twitter. Now I can google "Chicago Cubs" and see that they have a recent twitter post about the current rain delay and updates, but if I click the link go to the Cubs twitter page, it just gives me a bunch of random posts from 2016-2022. I can't see the most recent (especially about the rain delay)
https://twitter.com/Cubs
Is this just a side-effect of not being registered on twitter, or does it show this way for everyone? Regardless, dumb.
Depends on how precisely you want to define this term.
On one hand, if you have an account you still are able to follow accounts and view their posts in a chronological order on the Following tab (interspersed with some of the most insane advertisements and promoted scam posts you've ever seen). So, not really broken.
On the other hand, many of the accounts that were worth following have left for one Elon-created reason or another, so the value of participating is somewhat less than it was before. With each sort of flailing decision Elon makes regarding the user experience he seems to cull another set of users from the platform. To my eye, none of what he's done has attracted anyone to the site (with, uh, one group's notable exception that you can figure out without me specifically identifying). There's also the incredible way that he's managed to sail the ship into rock after rock, (employment lawsuits--so many employment lawsuits, losing engineers who went to competitors, destroying 100% of the brand equity that he purchased in changing the name to 'X,' and so on, and so on) that not only is there's a real sense that whatever made Twitter *Twitter* is gone and never coming back but also there's a real chance it just... stops one day.
To that extent, it certainly feels irreparably broken.
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if you have an account you still are able to follow accounts and view their posts in a chronological order
So...I'm reading that as "Yes, it's broken for those without accounts".
I agree, I only used twitter for a couple very specific things in life - and now it's not worth my time for that anymore.
edit: Also, threads web interface is now active. https://www.threads.net/@cubs
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I don't have Facebook or Instagram, can't see much content on those without an account either.
Are those "broken"?
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I don't have Facebook or Instagram, can't see much content on those without an account either.
Are those "broken"?
Well if you used to rely on them to access information but no longer can, then for you I would say the answer is "yes."
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I don't have Facebook or Instagram, can't see much content on those without an account either.
Are those "broken"?
I don't have those either, but I can go here https://www.facebook.com/MarquetteMensBB/ and see what was posted in the past few hours. Same here for most recent posts https://www.threads.net/@marquette.basketball
That doesn't work here https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB - top post is from 2021
Twitter is broken for me. You seem to want to make that political, but it doesn't work the way it used to, and is useless for my purposes now. Hence, broken.
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I don't have those either, but I can go here https://www.facebook.com/MarquetteMensBB/ and see what was posted in the past few hours. Same here for most recent posts https://www.threads.net/@marquette.basketball
That doesn't work here https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB - top post is from 2021
Twitter is broken for me. You seem to want to make that political, but it doesn't work the way it used to, and is useless for my purposes now. Hence, broken.
min.
Political? I just said that I can't see fb and ig content without an account.
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Political? I just said that I can't see fb and ig content without an account.
Really? My FB link doesn't work for you? Try an incognito tab.
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Really? My FB link doesn't work for you? Try an incognito tab.
What's political about my post? Weirdo.
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What's political about my post? Weirdo.
You know what you were saying.
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You know what you were saying.
Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.
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I didn't see anything political behind Zigs post lol
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Everything written or said by anyone is political. So long as the playing field is even, it shouldn't be an issue. After all, this is 'merica, aina?
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After all, this is 'merica, aina?
sir, this is MUScoop.
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sir, this is MUScoop.
Political. 🙄
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Everything written or said by anyone is political. So long as the playing field is even, it shouldn't be an issue. After all, this is 'merica, aina?
in other words, some are just more "equal" than others, eyn'a?
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And some are perpetual victims
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And some are perpetual victims
🐷🐷
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🐷🐷
While others are unable to provide anything at all
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While others are unable to provide anything at all
No picture? Disappointed.
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Threads website is now live: https://www.threads.net/
Also, I found a Twitter to Threads follows finder:
https://fedifinder.glitch.me/
Wasn't an amazing app, but found a dozen Thread people to follow.
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Found an even better Twitter to Threads follower utility.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/threads-sync/jjpemkijfelmdhanbfiloljaokgddahi
You install it on your browser .. it goes to Twitter and scrapes out your follow list. Then it goes to Threads and tries each Twitter handle .. if it finds a match, it clicks the "follow" button.
Took about 8 minutes for it to cycle through mine, although it'd take more if you have tons of Twitter follows.
Half my Twitters did not have Threads accounts .. or didn't match. But it helped a ton.
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Paid political advertising. That is one way to generate revenue.
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Obama's crack fueled gay sex?
Tucker continues to crush it
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Obama's crack fueled gay sex?
Tucker continues to crush it
What about the New York Times?
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Obama's crack fueled gay sex?
Tucker continues to crush it
Dude is a genius at delivering the content keeps his fans, aka roqqet and heisy, riled up and coming back for more.
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What about the New York Times?
Been failing for almost a decade. Any day now they'll finally be all the way failed.
Or so I'm told.
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Been failing for almost a decade. Any day now they'll finally be all the way failed.
Or so I'm told.
That’s what they get for not reporting about Obama’s crack-fueled sexual escapades.
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That’s what they get for not reporting about Obama’s crack-fueled sexual escapades.
We've all been there
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I think we can stay non-political here, (but probably not), but this seems VERY dangerous
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4194233-ukraine-blasts-musk-over-starlink-order-russia-praises-his-balls/
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What are you talking about, perfectly normal to make a significant geopolitical decision based on the tweets of a guy who lives in Malaysia and crap posts about US politics all day.
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I think we can stay non-political here, (but probably not), but this seems VERY dangerous
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4194233-ukraine-blasts-musk-over-starlink-order-russia-praises-his-balls/
hen Musk tells us who he is (as he has done numerous times), believe him.
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What are you talking about, perfectly normal to make a significant geopolitical decision based on the tweets of a guy who lives in Malaysia and crap posts about US politics all day.
In this case its Musk and Ukraine, but this is going to continue to happen with different players. We have private companies whose technological reach and resources is greater than many countries, so those countries are going to necessarily be reliant on the whims of those companies to prosecute war.
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I think we can stay non-political here, (but probably not), but this seems VERY dangerous
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4194233-ukraine-blasts-musk-over-starlink-order-russia-praises-his-balls/
I saw an opinion today that this is a gateway to technology platforms being held accountable for what happens on their technology. I mean, Elon Musk said it.
Why shouldn't Facebook, Google, Reddit, and every ISP (including Starlink) be policing content and activity happening on their platform/network?
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I saw an opinion today that this is a gateway to technology platforms being held accountable for what happens on their technology. I mean, Elon Musk said it.
Why shouldn't Facebook, Google, Reddit, and every ISP (including Starlink) be policing content and activity happening on their platform/network?
Why don't the phone companies police the activity on their lines/networks?
Explain why free speech applies to words from a voice, not words on a screen?
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Why don't the phone companies police the activity on their lines/networks?
Explain why free speech applies to words from a voice, not words on a screen?
Also not free speech ;)
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts
Even $1 a year is too much.
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts
Even $1 a year is too much.
I get why he’d do it but think he underestimates where the bot farms are originating
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts
Even $1 a year is too much.
I wouldn't pay $1 to continue using any social media. Except for MUScoop, well worth the money.
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0% chance I pay for twitter. Tbh, it'd probably be good for me if he implemented this and gave me the nudge I need to turn that thing off.
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0% chance I pay for twitter. Tbh, it'd probably be good for me if he implemented this and gave me the nudge I need to turn that thing off.
Same. I’m on Bluesky now. Key follows for news are on there, local and national, at least for me.
It’s like early twitter before the bots took over. Only drawback is the limited invites to people from Twitter you’d like on Bluesky as well
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Same for me. Side note to anyone here, I've got 5 invite codes if anyone needs one.
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Just sent ya a PM.
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I now have 4 invite codes.
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Why Bluesky and not Threads? Curious for anyone who has tried both.
I was able to port over ~50 Twitter follows to Threads. No lack of content. I assume Bluesky doesn't have that many folks, right?
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Why Bluesky and not Threads? Curious for anyone who has tried both.
I was able to port over ~50 Twitter follows to Threads. No lack of content. I assume Bluesky doesn't have that many folks, right?
Correct, not many people at Bluesky. Threads requires an Instagram page, that could be part of why not Threads vs. Bluesky.
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Why Bluesky and not Threads? Curious for anyone who has tried both.
I was able to port over ~50 Twitter follows to Threads. No lack of content. I assume Bluesky doesn't have that many folks, right?
Don't have an instant gram and don't use bookface.
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how long are we going to see "posted on X, formerly known as twitter"??
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how long are we going to see "posted on X, formerly known as twitter"??
At the rate things are going, probably not much longer.
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At the rate things are going, probably not much longer.
(https://media.tenor.com/Va9M6DvKygYAAAAC/ba-dum-tsss-drum.gif)
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At this point it seems reasonable to ask, is Musk intentionally trying to destroy Xitter?
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At this point it seems reasonable to ask, is Musk intentionally trying to destroy Xitter?
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/was-elon-musks-strategy-twitter-rcna118490
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https://wheresyoured.at/p/elon-musk-innovator
"It’s impossible to dismiss this as the mere result of Musk’s incompetence and hubris — though both undoubtedly played a part. Musk is a man that is avowedly antagonistic to the truth, and to the legacy media institutions that — although flawed — have historically served an important role by providing accurate information during moments of crisis. That is why, just two weeks ago, he removed the ability for people to report tweets on the basis of political misinformation. And why, in a since-deleted tweet published during the most frenetic hours of violence, he decided to promote two “citizen journalists” as reliable sources of information — with one an unapologetic cheerleader for Assad and Putin, and a track record of casually slinging antisemitic epithets at online sparring partners.
Twitter is, ultimately, a markedly worse place because of Musk. While the last three days demonstrated its newfound deficiencies on a macro level, this decline has been evident for months, and likely explains why an in-depth analysis of X/Twitter by Media Matters found that the top 100 advertisers have reduced their spend on the platform by 90% in the last 12 weeks compared to the 12 weeks before Musk took over. Even considering the rocky economy and shaky ad industry spending, Twitter’s advertisers have all but fled the platform, with the company earning 42% less revenue along with a 28% contraction of individual monthly advertisers from before Musk took over.
X CEO Linda Yaccarino was telling the truth that 90% of these advertisers had returned, but left out a few brutal truths, like HBO (who spent $28.3 million on ads in the 12 weeks before Musk took over) reducing their spend to $23,500 over twelve weeks, or the fact that Visa, who Yaccarino specifically called out on stage, had spent ten dollars in the last 12 weeks, compared to the $77,500 it had spent before."
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Solid chance Twitter gets banned in the EU over this recent spate of misinformation
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Solid chance Twitter gets banned in the EU over this recent spate of misinformation
Twitter is doomed
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From NYT DealBook:
Since taking over X, the social network once known as Twitter, Elon Musk has pledged to impose as few restraints on speech as possible.
But the Israel-Gaza war has driven a flood of misinformation and violent images and videos on the platform, testing the company’s commitment to those principles in the face of criticism from advertisers and hate-speech watchdogs. The stakes are growing for Musk after the European Commission’s top digital regulator warned him to clean up the platform or face steep consequences.
The site “has become a war zone with no ethics,” Achiya Schatz, director of FakeReporter, an Israeli organization that monitors disinformation and hate speech, told The Times. X has faced complaints about misleading posts — including photos and videos taken out of context — and violent imagery, much of it seeded by Hamas. Experts say that combating such content has become much harder since X, under Musk’s ownership, has gutted safety and moderation teams.
This material is appearing on other platforms as well, including WhatsApp and TikTok — to the point that child protection groups are urging parents in Israel to remove social media apps from their kids’ phones. But online advocates called out X, as well as the messaging platform Telegram, for not doing as much as other social networks to remove such content.
X has said it’s committed to policing its platform. Over the weekend, the company said that it was removing newly created Hamas-affiliated accounts, as well as monitoring for hateful or violent content. Still, it added that users also bore responsibility for avoiding disturbing material, including by tweaking their settings.
A top European official has warned Musk about the spread of such content. Thierry Breton, a European Union commissioner, gave the X owner 24 hours to respond to allegations that the platform was disseminating illegal content and disinformation.
Musk pushed back, saying that X’s approach was transparent, and he challenged Breton to list the violations. It is “up to you to demonstrate that you walk the talk,” Breton shot back.
Penalties for failure to comply could be severe. Content moderation is a core part of the Digital Services Act, an E.U. law that requires major tech platforms to monitor for and remove those kinds of posts, as well as outline their protocols for doing so. Rule-breakers face a fine of up to six percent of global revenue, or even temporary suspension of their service in the E.U.
And advertisers, already wary of the increasingly chaotic state of X, may find more reason to pull back, threatening a much-needed revenue stream. “I would say it’s never been a more damaging place for brands to show up,” one ad industry executive told The Financial Times.
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Eloon continues to tell the world who he is:
"Earlier this week, multi-hyphenate billionaire Elon Musk endorsed a tweet suggesting Black students at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) have lower IQs and shouldn't become pilots.
"It will take an airplane crashing and killing hundreds of people for them to change this crazy policy of DIE," he tweeted, intentionally mixing up the letters of the acronym for "diversity, equity, and inclusion."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/civil-rights-groups-horrified-at-elon-musk-s-racist-outburst-against-black-people/ar-AA1mSZ6Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5b703cdf7dc4425598b52a43cf39ef9b&ei=26
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They should have replaced the word ‘horrified’ in the title with ‘not surprised’.
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He has a lot of the personality traits that incels do. Super weird guy.
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White guy raised amid privilege in Apartheid-era South Africa has problematic views on the intelligence of black people?
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White guy raised amid privilege in Apartheid-era South Africa has problematic views on the intelligence of black people?
Interestingly his father, despite being a creep and douche, was a member of a progressive anti-Apartheid party when he was involved in local politics. Obviously more goes into it but it’s not as direct as the “he was a wealthy white in SA, of course he hates black people” I’ve seen posited more than a few times
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Interestingly his father, despite being a creep and douche, was a member of a progressive anti-Apartheid party when he was involved in local politics. Obviously more goes into it but it’s not as direct as the “he was a wealthy white in SA, of course he hates black people” I’ve seen posited more than a few times
He might just be regular old dips*** racist, not stemming from childhood originating in apartheid racist.
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I know nothing about Musk's father, but someone can be anti-apartheid and still be racist. Just like people in the United States were anti-slavery but still didn't want their daughter marrying a black man.
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but it’s not as direct as the “he was a wealthy white in SA, of course he hates black people” I’ve seen posited more than a few times
I didn't write anything about Musk hating anyone.
I think growing up on the privileged side of an Apartheid state, it would be nearly impossible not to be influenced by the doctorine behind it, whether you embrace the actual practice or not.
There were plenty of abolitionists who believed Blacks inferior. There's an entire country in Africa that exists because of it.