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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: brewcity77 on April 06, 2023, 11:45:22 AM

Poll
Question: If there is no more roster movement, would you prefer a transfer with a high ceiling or high floor?
Option 1: High Ceiling votes: 34
Option 2: High Floor votes: 72
Title: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 06, 2023, 11:45:22 AM
We currently have one open roster spot and are pursuing transfers in the portal. If you could pick your ideal transfer, which would you prefer?

  • High Ceiling: A freshman or sophomore that is unproven at this level but has time to develop and grow behind the current roster. Similar to O-Max Prosper when he joined Marquette.
  • High Floor: A proven high-major grad transfer who might not develop into a star, but can provide known value for a short time. Similar to SHU transfer Tyrese Samuel.
The high-ceiling guy obviously gives you the potential for the most long-term bang for the buck, but he could be blocked by others on the roster and may not add as much to 2023-24. The high-floor guy won't be here as long, but would provide stability to the roster immediately. So which would you prefer?
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 06, 2023, 11:51:17 AM
Depends if all starters are back or not. If someone like O-Max turns pro, then I want the highest floor player to maximize next season's championship aspirations.

If all of the starters are back, then I favor a longterm prospect.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 06, 2023, 11:53:40 AM
We have a one year window for a very special season. Get a high floor rebounder. #312 in defensive rebounding ain't going to get it done in a crapshoot game or this tough schedule. It's holding the defense back from being great. It's a hole in the roster so go for it.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: lake on April 06, 2023, 11:57:40 AM
I have a feeling that Omax goes pro so high floor. Someone that can bang around down low for 15-20 min/game scooping boards
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: MUfan12 on April 06, 2023, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 06, 2023, 11:53:40 AM
We have a one year window for a very special season. Get a high floor rebounder. #312 in defensive rebounding ain't going to get it done in a crapshoot game or this tough schedule. It's holding the defense back from being great. It's a hole in the roster so go for it.

Dis right here.

Ben and Al are high ceiling guys. Go get the dude that's gonna get us to the third weekend.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Don_Kojis on April 06, 2023, 12:35:29 PM
High Floor for sure.  We have success are have a good roster right now.  We need that banger  that can protect the rim and score and rebound.  Kind of like UConn situation.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Tha Hound on April 06, 2023, 01:41:06 PM
If we're bringing everyone back this is our best opportunity for a title run in a very long time. You don't get many of these chances. Go for the high floor guy and hope he contributes when it matters most.

We have plenty of underclassmen on the roster already that fit the "high ceiling" mold.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: bilsu on April 06, 2023, 01:54:25 PM
I see no reason to take a transfer, who cannot significantly play right away.

Bring back Wrightsel if you want to fill the spot.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: wadesworld on April 06, 2023, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: bilsu on April 06, 2023, 01:54:25 PM
I see no reason to take a transfer, who cannot significantly play right away.

Bring back Wrightsel if you want to fill the spot.

You could easily get a freshman transfer that won't play right away but will play in 2 years.  Even someone who is not eligible to play immediately.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 06, 2023, 04:18:10 PM
Need RJax v2
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on April 06, 2023, 06:54:11 PM
Sign me up for Tyrese Samuel
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 06, 2023, 11:01:51 PM
Sign me up for RJax v2.0
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 08, 2023, 04:59:19 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 06, 2023, 11:53:40 AM
We have a one year window for a very special season. Get a high floor rebounder. #312 in defensive rebounding ain't going to get it done in a crapshoot game or this tough schedule. It's holding the defense back from being great. It's a hole in the roster so go for it.

I suggested the same thing and was asked who do you bench? Yeah, lets go for it.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 08, 2023, 04:59:19 AM
I suggested the same thing and was asked who do you bench? Yeah, lets go for it.

You don't necessarily have to bench anyone.  It would be a matter of minute redistribution and matchups.  Adding a big isn't a bad thing or problem
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: lawdog77 on April 08, 2023, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
You don't necessarily have to bench anyone.  It would be a matter of minute redistribution and matchups.  Adding a big isn't a bad thing or problem
He has to fit in the offense Shaka runs. Shaka is not going to bring in a guy that clogs up the middle. That would stop our guards from getting to the rim. Unless someone else leaves, I don't really think Shaka is too concerned about brining in someone from the portal.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 10:17:19 AM
Quote from: lawdog77 on April 08, 2023, 10:13:31 AM
He has to fit in the offense Shaka runs. Shaka is not going to bring in a guy that clogs up the middle. That would stop our guards from getting to the rim. Unless someone else leaves, I don't really think Shaka is too concerned about brining in someone from the portal.

This is true, too.  It's all a fluid situation.  Shaka isn't bringing in a guy that doesn't fit what they do just because he's a big.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 08, 2023, 11:05:29 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 10:17:19 AM
This is true, too.  It's all a fluid situation.  Shaka isn't bringing in a guy that doesn't fit what they do just because he's a big.

Aircraft carries no matta
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 08, 2023, 11:05:29 AM
Aircraft carries no matta

Maybe you never heard that Al McGuire quote, pal
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2023, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
You don't necessarily have to bench anyone.  It would be a matter of minute redistribution and matchups.  Adding a big isn't a bad thing or problem

It's not a bad thing.  But if we do,  someone is getting benched. Shaka isn't using more than a 10 man rotation.  9 more likely
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: MU82 on April 08, 2023, 12:02:56 PM
Can't Shaka just make a trade? He could fill a need or two and maybe also help Marquette's salary-cap situation.
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 08, 2023, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2023, 11:17:26 AM
It's not a bad thing.  But if we do,  someone is getting benched. Shaka isn't using more than a 10 man rotation.  9 more likely

Bench whoever has their head inserted into their rectal areas
Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 08, 2023, 03:34:13 PM
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2023, 11:17:26 AM
It's not a bad thing.  But if we do,  someone is getting benched. Shaka isn't using more than a 10 man rotation.  9 more likely

How do you know? He only had 11 players in '22 and 10 in '23 that could actually play.

Title: Re: Transfer: High Ceiling or High Floor?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2023, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 08, 2023, 03:34:13 PM
How do you know? He only had 11 players in '22 and 10 in '23 that could actually play.

Because when he had 11 in 22 he only played a 10 man rotation and when he had 10 in 23 he only played a 9 man rotation. Also because I'm not sure a single high major coach uses an 11+ man rotation
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