Full disclosure, I'm a Bucky hater.
So what do we want to happen tonight? Possibilities
Purdue knocks off Bucky and hurts their tourney chances, and maybe it knocks them out.
Bucky knocks off #5 Purdue setting up the possibility that MU moves up at least one more spot.
Or, screw it, an asteroid hits the kohl hole tonight, and we're done with both!
1-0 uw-Madison victory
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 02, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
Full disclosure, I'm a Bucky hater.
So what do we want to happen tonight? Possibilities
Purdue knocks off Bucky and hurts their tourney chances, and maybe it knocks them out.
Bucky knocks off #5 Purdue setting up the possibility that MU moves up at least one more spot.
Or, screw it, an asteroid hits the kohl hole tonight, and we're done with both!
A loss to Purdue doesn't knock them out
A Purdue loss does minimal to help Marquette
Obsessing over Bucky after the season Marquette had is weird at best, pathetic at worst
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2023, 11:23:28 AM
A loss to Purdue doesn't knock them out
A Purdue loss does minimal to help Marquette
Obsessing over Bucky after the season Marquette had is weird at best, pathetic at worst
And doing so on the Hangin' at the Al board is a reason for a permaban.
I'm rooting for every team above us or on par with us to lose. If nothing else I want to be able to irrationally gripe about a three seed. And irrationally gripe I will!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2023, 11:23:28 AM
A loss to Purdue doesn't knock them out
A Purdue loss does minimal to help Marquette
Obsessing over Bucky after the season Marquette had is weird at best, pathetic at worst
Thanks for taking the time to scold the OP. Lord's work.
Superbar. At best. Really just in the general college hoops thread.
This is a tough one Heisenberg but I'm rooting for Purdue. I suppose it is similar to the decision you made to poison Brock with Lily of the Valley?
My first choice would be the asteroid. But given that it's somewhat of a long shot, I'll take Purdue in a rout, instead.
This topic makes us look pretty weak. Just post it in the NCAA thread if you want to discuss the game that has minimal impact on MU. It's not a big game to us. Badgers are fighting to avoid finishing in the bottom 4 of their conference.
For seeding, it may help us if Bucky wins, but probably not.
For your soul, it may help if Bucky loses and the chant of 'NIT, NIT' plays in your head as you drift off to sleep each night.
Which is more important? It's a personal decision - There's no wrong answer.
Would be if Becky had to play MN n their 2 games after Purdue.
*in. ;)
Very simple.
I always root against the Badgers.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 02, 2023, 11:27:44 AM
This topic makes us look pretty weak. Just post it in the NCAA thread if you want to discuss the game that has minimal impact on MU. It's not a big game to us. Badgers are fighting to avoid finishing in the bottom 4 of their conference.
You want weak? A Madison sportstalk station recorded a "Marquette sucks" podcast.
https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19
(https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19)
Don't care
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 11:26:53 AM
This is a tough one Heisenberg but I'm rooting for Purdue. I suppose it is similar to the decision you made to poison Brock with Lily of the Valley?
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Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 02, 2023, 12:35:00 PM
You want weak? A Madison sportstalk station recorded a "Marquette sucks" podcast.
https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19
(https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19)
II get so upset thinking about the varmits. How could they beat us this year?. How can they ever beat us? We always have better talent. The BE is far superior yo the Big 10. Gard is a terrible coach. An even worse recruiter. How could they have won their conference 2 out of the last 3 years? How could they get into more NCAA tournament games recently than Marquette?
It's troubling and mindblowing.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 02, 2023, 01:01:08 PM
II get so upset thinking about the varmits. How could they beat us this year?. How can they ever beat us? We always have better talent. The BE is far superior yo the Big 10. Gard is a terrible coach. An even worse recruiter. How could they have won their conference 2 out of the last 3 years? How could they get into more NCAA tournament games recently than Marquette?
It's troubling and mindblowing.
All that is is in the rearview mirror, my friend. This bus is headed Uptown.
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Wisconsin wins, probably in. If they lose, they're probably done. Feels about as close as you can get to a regular season play-in game.
Boiler up!! More importantly... let's take the Johnnies to the woodshed. A nice butt kicking in the fiserv would be divine.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 02, 2023, 12:35:00 PM
You want weak? A Madison sportstalk station recorded a "Marquette sucks" podcast.
https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19
(https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19)
That crap has been going on for years. At the same time Becky fans like HCSmooth tell us that no UW fan considers us on their level, or MU even crosses their mind - except for one day per year. They act like we are irrelevant to them. Clearly we are in their head, and have been since 1977.
In spite of Wojo, I will always be thankful for Duke in 2015.
BTFU!!!!!
Kind of thinking there is a divide on this topic that correlates to two things 1)the thread about how old you are 2) where you live.
I'm old, and I live in Wisconsin. I hate the Badgers. For two reasons that align with the above 1) i grew up when they were completely irrelevant and now they think their s#!t doesn't stink and 2) for the last 20 years due to sheer numbers in the state, they have dominated the sports media.
So, I LOVE to gloat and I don't have a problem at all if anyone thinks it's "little brotherish."
I hope they lose by 20 tonight.
Quote from: romey on March 02, 2023, 05:06:12 PM
Kind of thinking there is a divide on this topic that correlates to two things 1)the thread about how old you are 2) where you live.
I'm old, and I live in Wisconsin. I hate the Badgers. For two reasons that align with the above 1) i grew up when they were completely irrelevant and now they think their s#!t doesn't stink and 2) for the last 20 years due to sheer numbers in the state, they have dominated the sports media.
So, I LOVE to gloat and I don't have a problem at all if anyone thinks it's "little brotherish."
I hope they lose by 20 tonight.
Got to agree with this.
I'm old enough to remember the early 1980s when Wisconsin athletics was a joke. They were nearly last every year in football (thankful Northwestern often went 0-11). Camp Randall was half full for games, and often the crowd was not watching the game.
In basketball, Bucky went from 1947 to 1994 without a single NCAA appearance.
This shaped my opinion of them as a laughingstock, and it has been hard to shake.
History says they are a second-rate athletic school that lucked out with Bo Ryan and Barry Alvarez. Now that they are both gone, a good year is 5th, and an average year is 9th.
Midwest version of Rutgers
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 02, 2023, 05:22:26 PM
Got to agree with this.
I'm old enough to remember the early 1980s when Wisconsin athletics was a joke. They were nearly last every year in football (thankful Northwestern often went 0-11). Camp Randall was half full for games, and often the crowd was not watching the game.
In basketball, Bucky went from 1947 to 1994 without a single NCAA appearance.
This shaped my opinion of them as a laughingstock, and it has been hard to shake.
History says they are a second-rate athletic school that lucked out with Bo Ryan and Barry Alvarez. Now that they are both gone, a good year is 5th, and an average year is 9th.
Midwest version of Rutgers
Gard has finished below 5th twice. He's been top 2 more than lower than 5th.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 02, 2023, 05:55:49 PM
Gard has finished below 5th twice. He's been top 2 more than lower than 5th.
Don't bring facts to a knife fight
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 02, 2023, 05:22:26 PM
Got to agree with this.
I'm old enough to remember the early 1980s when Wisconsin athletics was a joke. They were nearly last every year in football (thankful Northwestern often went 0-11). Camp Randall was half full for games, and often the crowd was not watching the game.
In basketball, Bucky went from 1947 to 1994 without a single NCAA appearance.
This shaped my opinion of them as a laughingstock, and it has been hard to shake.
History says they are a second-rate athletic school that lucked out with Bo Ryan and Barry Alvarez. Now that they are both gone, a good year is 5th, and an average year is 9th.
Midwest version of Rutgers
Both you and Romey nailed it 100%.
But unlike you guys, I would have been meaner.
Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 02, 2023, 12:35:00 PM
You want weak? A Madison sportstalk station recorded a "Marquette sucks" podcast.
https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19
(https://twitter.com/ZoneMadison/status/1631330843632214018?t=JwuZZp3EuegTOclzNG96sQ&s=19)
Little brother energy there
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 02, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
Full disclosure, I'm a Bucky hater.
So what do we want to happen tonight? Possibilities
Purdue knocks off Bucky and hurts their tourney chances, and maybe it knocks them out.
Bucky knocks off #5 Purdue setting up the possibility that MU moves up at least one more spot.
Or, screw it, an asteroid hits the kohl hole tonight, and we're done with both!
Better Dead, than RED.
Smoke 'em!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2023, 11:23:28 AM
A loss to Purdue doesn't knock them out
A Purdue loss does minimal to help Marquette
Obsessing over Bucky after the season Marquette had is weird at best, pathetic at worst
chill out, bro...and embrace some Vadger hate!
F-ing Purdue thinks they deserve a #1 seed??
They look more like Butler tonight.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 02, 2023, 09:52:44 PM
F-ing Purdue thinks they deserve a #1 seed??
They look more like Butler tonight.
They look absolutely awful dtd.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 09:54:57 PM
They look absolutely awful dtd.
Would love them in our bracket.
I remember saying a few weeks ago when they were rated number one that they were one of the weakest number one rated teams ever.
They might be adding to the record for watching court stormings.
Not sure fouling up 3 with 9 seconds left is the best plan.
Quote from: wisblue on March 02, 2023, 10:07:34 PM
Not sure fouling up 3 with 9 seconds left is the best plan.
Teams are doing it a lot lately ive been seeing.
Wisco is 1 and 1 and Purdue is double bonus. PUrude banking on winning the free throw battle and having 0 chance to lose
Add Klesmit to the list of players who have absolutely no idea that 4.4 seconds is actually an eternity.
Another Louie for the Vadgers!!
Would be pretty ridiculous if the badgers get an at large at this point. They belong in the NIT.
NIT and don't be surprised if they lose to Minny. :)
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2023, 10:12:03 PM
Add Klesmit to the list of players who have absolutely no idea that 4.4 seconds is actually an eternity.
Not if you don't pass the rock or move like Klesmit. :)
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2023, 10:12:03 PM
Add Klesmit to the list of players who have absolutely no idea that 4.4 seconds is actually an eternity.
Yep, that was pathetic.
Also, poor usage of time-outs by Gard down the stretch IMHO.
I think it probably could have helped Marquette a little if Purdue had lost, but there is absolutely know way I can root for Madison. So I'm glad they were cryin' at the end.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 02, 2023, 10:13:05 PM
Would be pretty ridiculous if the badgers get an at large at this point. They belong in the NIT.
Sub 500 conference record should be a one-way ticket to NIT, best case scenario.
The Boilers put themselves in position to be the latest victims of a buzzer beater.
Anybody reminding Rob Reischel of his prediction that UW wins tonight and advances further than MU in the NCAA Tourney? Maybe wishing him continued luck in his coverage of WIAA girl's basketball? Should post the video of Badger players waving goodbye after they beat MU, because they can wave their season goodbye.
I think the 4th 1 seed is up in the air. I get the analytics and Q-1 wins but Purdue has not looked good for a full month. If UCLA wins out I think they get it.
16-13, 8-11 isn't Tournament worthy.
Quad win be damned...that ain't good enough. NIT
They aren't eliminated yet, but they needed to get this one to feel any comfort at all.
If the number 1's in small conferences lose,they get automatics to NIT,Becky better hope they don't lose,or they will be sitting home.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 02, 2023, 10:39:49 PM
They aren't eliminated yet, but they needed to get this one to feel any comfort at all.
You mean they're in if they beat Minnesota,? Uh.....no.
I would say they need three more wins minimum.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 10:42:32 PM
You mean they're in if they beat Minnesota,? Uh.....no.
No, but they can win a game or two in B10 tourney and get in with the Minny win.
The minny win keeps them from being eliminated(sans BTT win)
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 10:42:32 PM
You mean they're in if they beat Minnesota,? Uh.....no.
I would say they need three more wins minimum.
I don't think they are in if they beat Minnesota, but it keeps them alive.
Will be very interesting if they beat Minnesota this weekend and then again in the Big Ten Tournament then lose their second round game. 18-14 might be enough to get them into Dayton.
If they lose either of the games to Minnesota, they are done.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2023, 10:43:44 PM
No, but they can win a game or two in B10 tourney and get in with the Minny win.
The minny win keeps them from being eliminated(sans BTT win)
I suppose. I could easily see Minny punking them though. :)
Quote from: BM1090 on March 02, 2023, 10:48:14 PM
I don't think they are in if they beat Minnesota, but it keeps them alive.
Will be very interesting if they beat Minnesota this weekend and then again in the Big Ten Tournament then lose their second round game. 18-14 might be enough to get them into Dayton.
If they lose either of the games to Minnesota, they are done.
Brew would have a better idea of the bubble teams that can put them to sleep.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 10:48:23 PM
I suppose. I could easily see Minny punking them though. :)
Badgers gain nothing from winning the game against Minnesota. It would only be the final nail in the coffin for an at large.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 02, 2023, 10:43:44 PM
No, but they can win a game or two in B10 tourney and get in with the Minny win.
The minny win keeps them from being eliminated(sans BTT win)
I think they automatically finish in the bottom 4 meaning they'll be 1 of 4 teams playing on day 1.
They probably have to play Minnesota back to back.
16-13 ( 8-11) and tied for 11th place in the B10. Going into the Purdue game a NET of 75 and a current KenPom of 67.
What the he!! about that mess screams NCAA deserving. And equally how does beating one of the worst P5 teams in the country ( Minnesota) once, or even twice, improve that situation??.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on March 02, 2023, 10:57:50 PM
16-13 ( 8-11) and tied for 11th place in the B10. Going into the Purdue game a NET of 75 and a current KenPom of 67.
What the he!! about that mess screams NCAA deserving. And equally how does beating one of the worst P5 teams in the country ( Minnesota) once, or even twice, improve that situation??.
It doesn't dtd but a loss to Minny could introduce them to darkness with no hope whatsoever of making the dance. :)
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 11:04:10 PM
It doesn't dtd but a loss to Minny could introduce them to darkness with no hope whatsoever of making the dance. :)
I agree. But the Gophers are putrid, in spite of beating Rutgers tonight, so I don't hold out a lot of hope for a Minnesota win ( although it will be their Senior Night and the "Barn" reportedly has a bad shooting background and add to that maybe some tired Badger legs and an upset could be in the cards )
I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).
I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in. A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 02, 2023, 11:52:56 PM
I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).
I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in. A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!
Literally no one is saying that beating St. John's tomorrow and then either them or Butler next Thursday will get us a 2 seed. The only way a 2 is even in play is winning the BET.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 02, 2023, 11:52:56 PM
I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).
I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in. A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!
TAMU,
If memory serves this is a Rodent team that was lucky to beat Minny in Madison. So, essentially that win had to "help" them correct? Had they lost (and they absolutely should have) they would be a 15-14 team and closer to 100 in the NET? They wouldn't even be mentioned as a potential bubble team. In their dismal existence beating Minnry meant something and as you said moving spots at their position in the S-Curve matters.
Now, as far as MU passing teams to the 2 line after wins over Butler and DePaul? I would say no. That said by beating them we stay in a position which still give us the opportunity to pass these teams so the wins are vitally important. Lastly, I'm not sold that Baylor or Kansas St. are 2 seed locks. I do believe the committee will consider the medieval beat-down we showcased on Baylor which resulted in their worst loss in many, many, years. What I'm saying is a 2 seed is in play for MU. If we win out I'm quite confident we will get it .
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 02, 2023, 05:55:49 PM
Gard has finished below 5th twice. He's been top 2 more than lower than 5th.
And at 8-11, Bucky is tied for 11th this year.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 03, 2023, 06:01:25 AM
Literally no one is saying that beating St. John's tomorrow and then either them or Butler next Thursday will get us a 2 seed. The only way a 2 is even in play is winning the BET.
Maybe you aren't saying that but there are those who literally believe we are already a 2 seed (or at least believe that we have passed teams like Rexas, Baylor, and Arizona) and others who have said we only need to win 1 or 2 more to lock up a 2 seed.
Who is saying all of these things. I guess I missed it.
Correct. Which has nothing to do with beating DePaul, Butler, and St. John's and everything to do with beating Xavier and addressing our one weakness (no high quality wins outside of FISERV) since the reveal was put together, as well as not taking any losses while teams above us have. Avoid the bad losses and a loss to UCONN/Creighton doesn't hurt us.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 02, 2023, 11:04:10 PM
It doesn't dtd but a loss to Minny could introduce them to darkness with no hope whatsoever of making the dance. :)
Rooting for Dawson to drop 50 on Bucky!
I wonder if Essigan will transfer? He has a pretty high ceiling imo. If I were him I'd bolt and get on a team that plays faster and in the open floor. And I'm not just saying this because I hate Wisky.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 03, 2023, 07:30:50 AM
I wonder if Essigan will transfer? He has a pretty high ceiling imo. If I were him I'd bolt and get on a team that plays faster and in the open floor. And I'm not just saying this because I hate Wisky.
He can't guard
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 03, 2023, 07:30:50 AM
I wonder if Essigan will transfer? He has a pretty high ceiling imo. If I were him I'd bolt and get on a team that plays faster and in the open floor. And I'm not just saying this because I hate Wisky.
That roster just needs a major upgrade in talent. Their rotation players include 2 preferred walkons, a UWGB transfer, and a player who was only recruited at that level because of his brother. That's just not going to get it done, which is why they are at the bottom of the big ten.
I'd be surprised if Essegian transfers but I think Hepburn leaves.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2023, 07:32:54 AM
He can't guard
True but he's potentially a very good scorer.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 03, 2023, 06:01:25 AM
Literally no one is saying that beating St. John's tomorrow and then either them or Butler next Thursday will get us a 2 seed. The only way a 2 is even in play is winning the BET.
A week ago there were people saying if we win out the regular season, we may get a 2 seed even if we lose in the BET semis.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 03, 2023, 07:40:46 AM
That roster just needs a major upgrade in talent. Their rotation players include 2 preferred walkons, a UWGB transfer, and a player who was only recruited at that level because of his brother. That's just not going to get it done, which is why they are at the bottom of the big ten.
I'd be surprised if Essegian transfers but I think Hepburn leaves.
I actually like their three guards much better than I like their bigs.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2023, 07:32:54 AM
He can't guard
He's waiting on Wojo's landing spot, hey?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 03, 2023, 07:46:50 AM
I actually like their three guards much better than I like their bigs.
I think Hepburn comes back to either Creighton or Nebraska.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 03, 2023, 07:50:53 AM
I think Hepburn comes back to either Creighton or Nebraska.
Agreed. I posted a while ago I think Creighton would be a good fit. They could use another guard. Let it fly...
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 03, 2023, 06:17:21 AM
And at 8-11, Bucky is tied for 11th this year.
Shocking state of the bubble that record is even remotely considered for making the tourney.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 03, 2023, 07:50:53 AM
I think Hepburn comes back to either Creighton or Nebraska.
a friend with a few contacts at UW athletics said the same (Creighton)
Let's go bid thieves *clap,clap*clap,clap,clap* ;D
Quote from: Viper on March 03, 2023, 08:05:03 AM
a friend with a few contacts at UW athletics said the same (Creighton)
Having seen some of Heburn's high school games, I could never figure out why he picked Bucky.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 03, 2023, 08:33:37 AM
Having seen some of Heburn's high school games, I could never figure out why he picked Bucky.
I could see some addition by subtraction with Hepburn leaving. Their end of game strategy looked like when Markus was here. However, Hepburn is not Markus except for one game at Fiserv.
Quote from: PointWarrior link=topic=64407.msg1526607#msg1526607 date=
Shocking state of the bubble that record is even remotely considered for making the tourney.
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Not that shocking--closer to home just last year Xavier was considered by many to be a bubble team at 8-11 prior to losing to Butler in the BET.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 03, 2023, 08:33:37 AM
Having seen some of Heburn's high school games, I could never figure out why he picked Bucky.
He's not good
Why do we give a rat's behind about a rodent in red that's not worthy to live anywhere near our shadow.
Let it go folks. The more attention you pay to that red roadkill, the less energy you have for our team!
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 03, 2023, 07:40:46 AM
That roster just needs a major upgrade in talent. Their rotation players include 2 preferred walkons, a UWGB transfer, and a player who was only recruited at that level because of his brother. That's just not going to get it done, which is why they are at the bottom of the big ten.
I'd be surprised if Essegian transfers but I think Hepburn leaves.
And according to their board, they're looking at adding more mid-major talent. One kid from St. Thomas and possibly a second from Wofford. Both Wisconsin natives.
Hepburn might transfer but that might also be addition by subtraction or net neutral. His late game hero ball antics has earned him the nickname Chucky Heartburn from frustrated fans.
I noticed Gard had Klesmit running the point down the stretch last night. Keeping the ball out of Hepburn's hands. Might be some friction between Gard and Hepburn, but Gard is pretty much forced to play him because the bench stinks.
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 03, 2023, 09:01:16 AM
Why do we give a rat's behind about a rodent in red that's not worthy to live anywhere near our shadow.
Because schadenfreude is fun!
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 03, 2023, 08:27:38 AM
Let's go bid thieves *clap,clap*clap,clap,clap* ;D
This. Rooting for bid thieves so Madison gets left out sure is a lot more fun than rooting against bid thieves so Marquette doesn't get left out!
I could see Essegian transferring to a faster paced team.
Quote from: MU82 on March 03, 2023, 09:51:29 AM
Because schadenfreude is fun!
This. Rooting for bid thieves so Madison gets left out sure is a lot more fun than rooting against bid thieves so Marquette doesn't get left out!
Very true. I creeped on over to buckyville this morning and they have the dreaded "daily bubble watch" thread going which I don't miss seeing here.
I feel like we say "I think this Badger is going to transfer" every year.
And then they don't.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 03, 2023, 09:55:59 AM
I feel like we say "I think this Badger is going to transfer" every year.
And then they don't.
Probably cuz no one else wants them.
I think there would be a long list of suitors for Hepburn or Essegian. Last year people were talking like Wahl was going to transfer - there would be a long list for him as well.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 03, 2023, 10:13:02 AM
I think there would be a long list of suitors for Hepburn or Essegian. Last year people were talking like Wahl was going to transfer - there would be a long list for him as well.
Hepburn yes, Essegian maybe, Wahl doubtful as he's not that good.
LOL, last year Wahl was Honorable Mention All Big Ten. You don't think schools would have been interested in him as a transfer?
Gimme a break.
And I would take Essegian over Hepburn in a heartbeat.
Man, you all care a lot about UW-Madison basketball. I struggle to watch more than 5 minutes of a lot of Big 10 games, and Wisconsin/Virginia-style bball is the culprit.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 03, 2023, 07:59:16 AM
Shocking state of the bubble that record is even remotely considered for making the tourney.
It's not that shocking. I think many just overestimate what it takes to be the last team into the tournament most seasons. Bucky has a unique resume in that their metrics largely suck but they have 6 Q1 wins, 5 of them away from the Kohl hole. Usually you'd expect a team like that to be nowhere near the bubble but they've been garbage at home, have a losing record against Q2/Q3, and have only won two games against high majors by more than 5 points (12 at home vs. Iowa and 10 vs. Stanford at Miller Park which is unfairly counted as a neutral court game).
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 03, 2023, 10:37:47 AM
Man, you all care a lot about UW-Madison basketball. I struggle to watch more than 5 minutes of a lot of Big 10 games, and Wisconsin/Virginia-style bball is the culprit.
Outside of the Marquette game, I think I have watched a grand total of 10 minutes of Wisconsin basketball this year.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 03, 2023, 10:46:39 AM
Outside of the Marquette game, I think I have watched a grand total of 10 minutes of Wisconsin basketball this year.
Then your memory is a lot better than mine. I'd have a hard time naming someone on their team. Interesting!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2023, 07:32:54 AM
He can't guard
I actually am also wondering if Chucky Hepburn transfers. Maybe it's just his personality but his body language has not been great this second half of the season. He does not appear to be happy at all
Essegian looks like he's frustrated and bored to death watching the offensive flow cancers that are named Crowl and Wahl. Even their names are boring. I wouldn't be surprised if all of their guards transfer. Everyone has a breaking point. :)
I've been focusing exclusively on the teams in the 2-5 seed range and comparing them to Marquette, but I think I might take a closer look at the teams around the last 4 in and first four out spots to see how they compare.
With Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan all in that neighborhood, the last day of B10 play on Sunday and the conference tournament could decide how those teams line up.
Michigan missed a golden opportunity yesterday when they scored the last 7 points of the game in the last 2 minutes to push Illinois into OT. Then they returned the favor by letting the Illini score the last 7 points of the OT to force a second OT, where a last second 3 that would have forced another OT let Illinois escape with the win.
Another quad 1 road win for Michigan might have lifted UM over the Badgers. They will get another chance to add to their resume at Indiana on Sunday, but it is looking like too little too late for the Blue. given the parity in the conference, they can't be counted out as a bid stealing conference tournament winner. They have beaten or lost close to just about everyone in the conference, so there's always a chance.
For anyone that watched, I thought Painter's strategy to foul up 3 was pretty poor. The first time was with 9 seconds left. That really extends the game and puts the pressure on for you to hit free throws.
UW had a look to win it at the end, but was more of a prayer. I kind of thought the sweet spot was between 2-5 seconds to foul. By doing it at 9, you are helping UW extend the game and bring losing into the equation.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 03, 2023, 12:28:13 PM
For anyone that watched, I thought Painter's strategy to foul up 3 was pretty poor. The first time was with 9 seconds left. That really extends the game and puts the pressure on for you to hit free throws.
UW had a look to win it at the end, but was more of a prayer. I kind of thought the sweet spot was between 2-5 seconds to foul. By doing it at 9, you are helping UW extend the game and bring losing into the equation.
Yes Cheebs and you're being too kind to Painter. The "strategy" was abysmal. Especially in light of where they fouled on the floor as well as the time left. In both situations Wisconsin was nowhere near in a position to square up and get a good look at a three.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 03, 2023, 12:28:13 PM
For anyone that watched, I thought Painter's strategy to foul up 3 was pretty poor. The first time was with 9 seconds left. That really extends the game and puts the pressure on for you to hit free throws.
UW had a look to win it at the end, but was more of a prayer. I kind of thought the sweet spot was between 2-5 seconds to foul. By doing it at 9, you are helping UW extend the game and bring losing into the equation.
Had the same thought. I know the strategy was to hope Wisconsin missed a FT, especially with three 1-and-1 opportunities, but Wisconsin made all of their FT and it was Purdue who missed.
Nearly cost Purdue, but it worked out for them.
If you want some hilarity, check out Evan Flood and Potrykus carrying water for Gard. How many other programs have local media carry water for them like Wisconsin
I sort of want to see Gard fired for the 180 from Flood
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 02, 2023, 11:52:56 PM
I'm amused that many of the same people who are pointing out that beating Minnesota doesn't help Wisconsin move up (which is true but it's a lot easier to move near the back of the s curve) are also insisting that MU beating the likes of DePaul, Butler, and St John's is going to move them to a 2 seed (where it's a lot harder to move on the s curve).
I think if the tourney started today with no bid thieves, the Badgers would get in as the literal last team in. A single bid thief and their bubble would be popped. There will be bid thieves. Badger fans need to start praying now!
This same thing happens every year. All of these bracket projections prior to conf tournaments don't account for bid stealers. If your team is 'Last 4 In' NOW, be prepared to be disappointed on Selection Sunday.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 03, 2023, 02:13:53 PM
If you want some hilarity, check out Evan Flood and Potrykus carrying water for Gard. How many other programs have local media carry water for them like Wisconsin
I sort of want to see Gard fired for the 180 from Flood
They probably flush for him