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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MarquetteFan94 on February 28, 2023, 09:56:05 AM
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Not a lot of talk about tonight's game it seems.
Has the makings of a trap game although I'm confident Shaka will have them ready. Butler managed to slow us down at home and kept it close; we're 2-7 at Hinkle the last 9 years. Let's get off to a strong/fast start and put it away early.
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I'm 0-3 at Hinkle all-time when I attend the game...Your welcome for deciding not to go this year ;D
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Not a lot of talk about tonight's game it seems.
Has the makings of a trap game although I'm confident Shaka will have them ready. Butler managed to slow us down at home and kept it close; we're 2-7 at Hinkle the last 9 years. Let's get off to a strong/fast start and put it away early.
Butler at Hinkle can get really weird. Even explaining that Bates went bonkers in their upset of Xavier (a crucial factor of course), how was it possible that they lost to Georgetown?
Having been challenged for a while in the game at Fiserv, I believe, was good for MU. No "Hinkle Magic" tonight, please and thank you.
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I'm 0-3 at Hinkle all-time when I attend the game...Your welcome for deciding not to go this year ;D
*you’re
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As long as the guy doesn't change his mind and decides to go to the game aftercall, I'm good with your. He's a jinx.
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I'm 0-3 at Hinkle all-time when I attend the game...Your welcome for deciding not to go this year ;D
Time to take a tinkle on Hinkle
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Not a lot of talk about tonight's game it seems.
Has the makings of a trap game although I'm confident Shaka will have them ready. Butler managed to slow us down at home and kept it close; we're 2-7 at Hinkle the last 9 years. Let's get off to a strong/fast start and put it away early.
Oh god the trap game talk is back. And this could be the worst one yet.
How is this a trap game?? Between DePaul and SJU??
Sole big east title on the line?!?! And this is a trap for us??
We could lose, always possible. But this is nonsense lol. Actually the fact that we something so worthwhile to play for(along with seeding) is what has me less worried about a "trap" or a game where the team is checked out.
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Butler at Hinkle can get really weird. Even explaining that Bates went bonkers in their upset of Xavier (a crucial factor of course), how was it possible that they lost to Georgetown?
Having been challenged for a while in the game at Fiserv, I believe, was good for MU. No "Hinkle Magic" tonight, please and thank you.
Bates didn’t play against Georgetown so that may partially explain it. We’ll see if he plays tonight. Regardless, expecting a bit of a dog fight tonight. Obviously major targets on our back.
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Matta knows when you have clearly inferior talent, you slow it way down. Expect a rock fight, a game of attrition.
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MU did not cut the nets down after the DePaul game for a reason. They are focused on much bigger goals. I'm not worried.
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Matta knows when you have clearly inferior talent, you slow it way down. Expect a rock fight, a game of attrition.
60-52 in Milwaukee. I would expect more of the same.
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Matta knows when you have clearly inferior talent, you slow it way down. Expect a rock fight, a game of attrition.
Side note, Matta looked like he had a tough time moving in Milwaukee. I wonder how he has been holding up this year.
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I'm definitely nervous about today, probably because of how much is riding on this game in terms of seeding.
Logically, it doesn't make sense. We're clearly the better team and should win. I think I'm uneasy because it's such an important game and we haven't had that clunker yet against a bad team. Of course, it doesn't mean we will have one and what has happened in past years has no relevance, especially to this team.
I know the team will be focused but road games, especially this time of the year, make me uneasy. Hopefully we can take control early.
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I'm 0-3 at Hinkle all-time when I attend the game...Your welcome for deciding not to go this year ;D
I'm 0-2 at Hinkle. How many do you have to lose to officially be a curse?
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I'm 0-2 at Hinkle. How many do you have to lose to officially be a curse?
Let's not take any chances. You stay home too, OK?
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While we're "due" for a loss against a team we're clearly better than, we're also "due" for a complete 40 minute games. We've won a lot of games recently, but a lot of them have been one great half and one less than good half.
Side note: I think I remember MU being mentioned with Manny Bates, and hoping we would go after him. He'd look REAL nice on this roster.
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While we're "due" for a loss against a team we're clearly better than, we're also "due" for a complete 40 minute games. We've won a lot of games recently, but a lot of them have been one great half and one less than good half.
Side note: I think I remember MU being mentioned with Manny Bates, and hoping we would go after him. He'd look REAL nice on this roster.
He was one of the 3-4 guys that Shaka was inferring when that article came out about his aversion to NIL and paying big money for non MU guys.
When the Pack deal came public. Bates was one of the 4 we cut loose.
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Logically, it doesn't make sense. We're clearly the better team and should win. I think I'm uneasy because it's such an important game and we haven't had that clunker yet against a bad team. Of course, it doesn't mean we will have one and what has happened in past years has no relevance, especially to this team.
Cosign. Needless to say, Butler is evil and must be destroyed.
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Oh god the trap game talk is back. And this could be the worst one yet.
How is this a trap game?? Between DePaul and SJU??
Sole big east title on the line?!?! And this is a trap for us??
We could lose, always possible. But this is nonsense lol. Actually the fact that we something so worthwhile to play for(along with seeding) is what has me less worried about a "trap" or a game where the team is checked out.
Take it easy. Do you understand what "trap game" means? You've never heard of team looking ahead or coming out flat (esp on the road) against a clearly inferior opponent in a place where they've had very limited historical success? They'll be fired up for an upset as they're in spoiler mode in addition to it being Senior night for them, 5 Seniors on the team.
Trap game.
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Take it easy. Do you understand what "trap game" means? You've never heard of team looking ahead or coming out flat (esp on the road) against a clearly inferior opponent in a place where they've had very limited historical success? They'll be fired up for an upset as they're in spoiler mode in addition to it being Senior night for them, 5 Seniors on the team.
Trap game.
I think I already established that the issue was your lack of understanding.
And the overall overuse of the term.
I'll help you out. Winning tonight. SJU on Saturday is MUCH MORE of a trap game. If we are going to be forced to toss the nonsensical term around.
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Matta promised master Bates the top bunk in his dorm room & that sealed the deal.
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Maybe the second half v DePaul will be a good motivator and antidote to human nature for MU.
My apologies for another msg, but if you live in Indy or know people around there who may want to go to the game, I am still looking to sell two tickets on the first level, preferably to MU fans. Will be very reasonable. Tix are $60 face value. Thanks.
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Maybe the second half v DePaul will be a good motivator and antidote to human nature for MU.
My apologies for another msg, but if you live in Indy or know people around there who may want to go to the game, I am still looking to sell two tickets on the first level, preferably to MU fans. Will be very reasonable. Tix are $60 face value. Thanks.
Please verify their record at Hinkle before selling.
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I think I already established that the issue was your lack of understanding.
And the overall overuse of the term.
I'll help you out. Winning tonight. SJU on Saturday is MUCH MORE of a trap game. If we are going to be forced to toss the nonsensical term around.
You seem like a fun guy. What you've established is that you actually don't understand the importance of tonight's game (or the term).
At this stage of the season with NCAA seeding at stake (and the main priority), a loss tonight and SJU on Saturday has us playing to avoid a 4 seed while prob needing to win at least one in the BET to get back to a 3.
Tonight = trap game.
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You seem like a fun guy. What you've established is that you actually don't understand the importance of tonight's game (or the term).
At this stage of the season with NCAA seeding at stake (and the main priority), a loss tonight and SJU on Saturday has us playing to avoid a 4 seed while prob needing to win at least one in the BET to get back to a 3.
Tonight = trap game.
You just proved my point. You agree how important tonight is.
That isnt a trap game haha. Unbelievable.
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I guess I view a trap game as us overlooking the opponent. I don’t think that will be the case. Based on what is at stake, I think the team will be focused. Also, the closer than expected NMD game should have our team’s attention.
I’m more worried we come out tight due to everything at stake (outright title, ranking, seed). That and of course being Senior Night has me terrified.
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You just proved my point. You agree how important tonight is.
That isnt a trap game haha. Unbelievable.
You realize that a game being important and potentially a trap aren't mutually exclusive, right?
No, you don't, clearly. Unbelievable.
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I'm definitely nervous about today, probably because of how much is riding on this game in terms of seeding.
Logically, it doesn't make sense. We're clearly the better team and should win. I think I'm uneasy because it's such an important game and we haven't had that clunker yet against a bad team. Of course, it doesn't mean we will have one and what has happened in past years has no relevance, especially to this team.
I know the team will be focused but road games, especially this time of the year, make me uneasy. Hopefully we can take control early.
Our clunker against a bad team was UW at home. That win is the only reason Bucky is anywhere near the bubble. I don’t see an L tonight. Butler just isn’t good.
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You realize that a game being important and potentially a trap aren't mutually exclusive, right?
No, you don't, clearly. Unbelievable.
Its not a goddamn trap if the team isn't looking past the opponent you blockhead.
Your logic you are exhibiting means we have currently played like 90% trap games this year
It was a stupid comment, own it. Move on.
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I mentioned in the DePaul game thread that I felt like O-Max turned a corner in that game. It seemed to me like he had a lot more confidence and control than he had in a while. There was a look in his eyes that had been missing. I think O-Max is going to have a great game tonight and will be in the mix for SOTG.
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I think the term “trap game” is often misused.
I always think of it as a game sandwiched in between two games with more obvious importance.
For example, in football when Michigan plays Penn State, then Indiana, then Ohio State, the Indiana game is a trap game because it comes between one big game and before another. The team might have a letdown from the one game and/or be looking ahead to the next one and be “trapped” if they don’t get focused on it.
I see this as a game in which MU should not have trouble being focused. They have a chance to clinch an outright conference title and enhance their NCAA tournament seed. They’re also playing a team that played them tough a few weeks ago, and was able to beat Xavier, so they shouldn’t be overlooking the Bulldogs.
I see this game as a good dress rehearsal for a first round NCAA game. Butler with a home court and Senior Night advantage should be comparable to the type of team MU would face as a 14 seed in the NCAA. They should win, but if they don’t play well they won’t win.
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I'm 0-2 at Hinkle. How many do you have to lose to officially be a curse?
I broke my state of Indiana curse at Notre Dame this year...
I am 0-3 at Hinkle, 0-1 at IU, 0-1 at Mackey, and 1-0 at Notre Dame...
I am 5-1 at Holiday tournaments however and 2-0 at NCAA tournament games. See you in Columbus!
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Its not a goddamn trap if the team isn't looking past the opponent you blockhead.
Your logic you are exhibiting means we have currently played like 90% trap games this year
It was a stupid comment, own it. Move on.
You're a miserable dude, huh?
You've clearly never played a sport or coached, stay in your lane, grumpy.
Any game with an inferior opponent on the road with a lot at stake immediately afterward is a trap game. Period. It's more than overlooking your opponent; it's about the potential of losing even if prepared, the tendency of young players to get caught up in the hype and play tight, one less day to prepare than usual. Losing tonight likely detracts from getting the seed we'd like (you know, kind of like getting stuck in a trap prevents you from getting where you'd like to go). If you win, you avoid the trap. This isn't difficult.
Our last 3 losses were on the road following home wins with 3, 3 and 2 days to prepare respectively. They've had 2 days to prepare this one.
Tonight = Potential Trap game, which is what I said from the beginning.
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You're a miserable dude, huh?
You've clearly never played a sport or coached, stay in your lane, grumpy.
Any game with an inferior opponent on the road with a lot at stake immediately afterward is a trap game. Period. It's more than overlooking your opponent; it's about the potential of losing even if prepared, the tendency of young players to get caught up in the hype and play tight, one less day to prepare than usual. Losing tonight likely detracts from getting the seed we'd like (you know, kind of like getting stuck in a trap prevents you from getting where you'd like to go). If you win, you avoid the trap. This isn't difficult.
Our last 3 losses were on the road following home wins with 3, 3 and 2 days to prepare respectively. They've had 2 days to prepare this one.
Tonight = Potential Trap game, which is what I said from the beginning.
I think there is a difference between a trap game and a game where the schedule creates some difficulties. I don't think a game where the team is playing for an outright title can be a trap game.
Perhaps I'm nitpicking.
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I think there is a difference between a trap game and a game where the schedule creates some difficulties. I don't think a game where the team is playing for an outright title can be a trap game.
Perhaps I'm nitpicking.
No you are not nitpicking. You are absolutely correct and explained it well. Not sure why MarquetteFan94 can't figure this out and admit he is wrong and instead is responding like an angry child trying to convince everyone that he knows better than anyone what a trap game is. This is not a trap game at all; it is as you said, a game where the schedule creates some difficulties. A trap game is completely different as several people have logically explained.
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I think there is a difference between a trap game and a game where the schedule creates some difficulties. I don't think a game where the team is playing for an outright title can be a trap game.
Perhaps I'm nitpicking.
several posters in this thread have been, you not as much
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I’m going, last time I was there my high school girl’s team lost their state championship, a long time ago. Blame me, if we lose.
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Last time I went to Hinkle (3/5/16) I took the kids to The Dancing Donut.
We lost the game, but the donuts were excellent.
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No you are not nitpicking. You are absolutely correct and explained it well. Not sure why MarquetteFan94 can't figure this out and admit he is wrong and instead is responding like an angry child trying to convince everyone that he knows better than anyone what a trap game is. This is not a trap game at all; it is as you said, a game where the schedule creates some difficulties. A trap game is completely different as several people have logically explained.
But have you played or coached basketball?
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To call tonight a trap game is implying that the game against the Johnnies is of great importance. Tonight isn't a trap game.
Also, the two folks slap-fighting are acting like dorks whether or not you're the one that's right.
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Its not a goddamn trap if the team isn't looking past the opponent you blockhead.
Your logic you are exhibiting means we have currently played like 90% trap games this year
It was a stupid comment, own it. Move on.
I think this is a “trap” post for the OP - making a stupid post while looking ahead to their next hopefully not stupid post.
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Its not a goddamn trap if the team isn't looking past the opponent you blockhead.
Your logic you are exhibiting means we have currently played like 90% trap games this year
It was a stupid comment, own it. Move on.
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“I don’t believe in looking past anybody – I wouldn’t look past the Little Sisters of the Poor after they stayed up all night.”
— Al McGuire
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But have you played or coached basketball?
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :)
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No you are not nitpicking. You are absolutely correct and explained it well. Not sure why MarquetteFan94 can't figure this out and admit he is wrong and instead is responding like an angry child trying to convince everyone that he knows better than anyone what a trap game is. This is not a trap game at all; it is as you said, a game where the schedule creates some difficulties. A trap game is completely different as several people have logically explained.
I've explained myself well enough and plenty outside the herd would agree. It's cute how you guys cozy up and rally around each other though.
Let's just f-ing beat Butler.
Tonight = trap game.
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I think this is a “trap” post for the OP - making a stupid post while looking ahead to their next hopefully not stupid post.
I hope the next post is even worse than this dump
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Goose should step in.
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Timing's gotta be right.
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I've explained myself well enough and plenty outside the herd would agree. It's cute how you guys cozy up and rally around each other though.
Let's just f-ing beat Butler.
Tonight = trap game.
Definitely not a trap game. :D
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Master Bates in, Ali & Mulloy out
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I felt trapped following this thread
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Master Bates in, Ali & Mulloy out
That should be good for Marquette betting action
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Hope so. With a subpar overall record, a NET of 123 and missing a starter, Butler should not win this game.
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Let's not take any chances. You stay home too, OK?
Done. And it worked
You're welcome
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Goose should step in.
Winner
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“I don’t believe in looking past anybody – I wouldn’t look past the Little Sisters of the Poor after they stayed up all night.”
— Al McGuire
This, it is up to coaching staff to not let it become a "trap" game.
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Done. And it worked
You're welcome
Way to take one for the team! Thanks!