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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Elonsmusk on February 15, 2023, 10:46:24 PM
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Seems like we always have fun nail-biter games with Creighton. I expect another one. Perhaps tilting in our favor: We get a full week off. Creighton and their 6 man rotation had double OT last night in Providence, and they play at St John's Saturday. No idea if they stayed out East after last night's game, but regardless that's a pretty tough stretch to then come back and play Tuesday night in Omaha.
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Seems like we always have fun nail-biter games with Creighton. I expect another one. Perhaps tilting in our favor: We get a full week off. Creighton and their 6 man rotation had double OT last night in Providence, and they play at St John's Saturday. No idea if they stayed out East after last night's game, but regardless that's a pretty tough stretch to then come back and play Tuesday night in Omaha.
I expect MU to play loose and with tremendous confidence on 2-21. We sort of stole one tonight. I fully expect us to be ready to go and have multiple guys dropping buckets all over the floor.
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Depending on how SJU game goes.
Kam and Scheirmann could have quite the shoot off.
Because between tonight and last night............woof both are due.
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One thing I’ll say about Wojo — without looking up what his actual record was against them — he seemed to kind of own Creighton, especially in their house. His squads just matched up well against theirs.
Creighton is not deep and won’t be well rested, but I’m expecting a game similar to tonight, unfortunately. Frustrating, never quite getting over the hump but always close with lots of lead changes, and *hopefully* an MU victory.
We’re going to get everyone’s best game from here on out.
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Our offense always shows up in Omaha. Something about the backdrop must be great because we always sling it there. Hopefully that is true again next Tuesday.
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On the roadmap for a conference championship is win at home, steal one on the road and don’t lose against the bottom. MU protected the house against the Top 7 (especially hard in the Top 4) and they have chance to be the first to steal one on the road as a Top 4 against a Top 4.
the Creighton game determines if they win the title alone or they share it.
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One thing I’ll say about Wojo — without looking up what his actual record was against them — he seemed to kind of own Creighton, especially in their house. His squads just matched up well against theirs.
Creighton is not deep and won’t be well rested, but I’m expecting a game similar to tonight, unfortunately. Frustrating, never quite getting over the hump but always close with lots of lead changes, and *hopefully* an MU victory.
We’re going to get everyone’s best game from here on out.
Agree, especially with the last sentence. MU is talented enough to keep grinding out wins despite their youth and inexperience and I think they get it done Tuesday. Getting everyone’s best will pay big dividends down the road, this year and next. The offense will eventually break through after getting used to the way similarly talented (or even more talented) teams play us. This will hopefully lead to a mentally tough team who can get it done when it matter most, in the tournament.
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I thought Kalkbrenner looked out of sorts against Providence. He had a very physical battle with Sanogo the game before. In that game the refs were not calling fouls and Sanogo was repeatedly banging into Kalkbrenner. Early in the Providence game Kalkbrenner got called for a touch foul and he never really seemed in the game after that.
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That first 12 minutes will give MU some valuable film for next week. They allowed Nunge to affect the way they played far too much. Can't let Kalkbrenner do the same thing.
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I will be there proudly wearing my MU gear! Just hoping we get an even whistle.
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Seems like we always have fun nail-biter games with Creighton. I expect another one. Perhaps tilting in our favor: We get a full week off. Creighton and their 6 man rotation had double OT last night in Providence, and they play at St John's Saturday. No idea if they stayed out East after last night's game, but regardless that's a pretty tough stretch to then come back and play Tuesday night in Omaha.
Unless NCAA rules have changed they have to go back to their campus
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Unless NCAA rules have changed they have to go back to their campus
NCAA 😂😂
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Only way we beat Creighton on their floor is push tempo entire game. Run the kegs off of Kalkenberger. Kolek and Mitchell and rest of team must run, run, run. Including Joplin during his minutes.
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Only way we beat Creighton on their floor is push tempo entire game. Run the kegs off of Kalkenberger. Kolek and Mitchell and rest of team must run, run, run. Including Joplin during his minutes.
Completely agree - McDermott failed to develop his bench this year, so hopefully Shaka uses some full court pressure to wear them down.
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Im happy that we get 6 days of rest before the next game. Just have to hope that a slow start doesn't happen because of it. Winning this game doesn't just help us with the cementing of 1st place but it also looks up a tiebreaker that will be used for conference seeding that no other team can have, in the event they slip up in the final 3 games. The tiebreaker will more than likely come down who beat each team behind them in the standings at a better win percentage. They would all be tired except for Creighton.
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When Creighton hosted Xavier and Xavier had Hunter in the game, Creighton put Kalk on Hunter and had him completely ignore Hunter. He just played a one man zone about 4 feet in front of the rim. I'm worried Crieghton will do that to Oso. Xavier was doing that early in the game and it really clogs up any cuts to the rim and bogs down this offense. I'd like to see Oso attack the rim and get into Kalk's body to take away his shot blocking and/or draw fouls. I'd also like to see Oso do a handoff to Kam at the top of the key if Kalk is ignoring him, and really hit Kam's defender on the screen after the handoff. Should give Jones some open looks, and if their defense gets into rotation then you can attack going downhill.
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We got swept...0-3 last year against Creighton...
No better time than now to get that immediate revenge. Go take it!
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When Creighton hosted Xavier and Xavier had Hunter in the game, Creighton put Kalk on Hunter and had him completely ignore Hunter. He just played a one man zone about 4 feet in front of the rim. I'm worried Crieghton will do that to Oso. Xavier was doing that early in the game and it really clogs up any cuts to the rim and bogs down this offense. I'd like to see Oso attack the rim and get into Kalk's body to take away his shot blocking and/or draw fouls. I'd also like to see Oso do a handoff to Kam at the top of the key if Kalk is ignoring him, and really hit Kam's defender on the screen after the handoff. Should give Jones some open looks, and if their defense gets into rotation then you can attack going downhill.
I would keep Oso close to the rim if Creighton takes that approach. If Kam or TK penetrate, Kalk will naturally rotate to block the shot. A quick dump off to Oso for the dunk. If we bring Oso out for a pick and Kalk doesn't follow then I would get the ball to Kam bring Oso out for the pick and then let Kam have an uncontested three ball. Same for Jop but at the top of the key.
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6 days off will help. As opposed to last night, I hope MU uses their depth to wear Creighton down.
All 5 starters played 30+ last night.
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Only way we beat Creighton on their floor is push tempo entire game. Run the kegs off of Kalkenberger. Kolek and Mitchell and rest of team must run, run, run. Including Joplin during his minutes.
Has he put on some beer weight recently?
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3 of our 4 best players haven't played near their top level the last few weeks. I think having the weekend off, and time to analyze and prepare, could be exactly what they need moving forward.
My personal take is that all of them have pressed a little bit knowing what is at stake and being a top 11 team. I'd like to see less iso ball and better decisions in open space depending on how they are being defended.
We're a very streaky 3pt shooting team but a dangerous 2pt shooting team. There's really no reason to take early 3's off the dribble with 25 secs on the shot clock. I believe when TyKo gets additional help as a creator, we are at our best. OMax, Jop, and Kam don't necessarily need to make the dime but instead move the ball when help comes. Ighodaro is a tremendous passer, but his hesitancy at the 15 foot range in open space has been problematic the past few games. I would be more forceful going to the rim, or take that 8 footer with confidence.
I think the pressure will be off in Omaha and I expect our guys to be ready.
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It is still a conference road game against a ranked team.
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Muggsy
Our top guys have struggled a bit and there is a ton of pressure on them. They are team oriented group, but a number of them are playing to get a very big raise next season. Difference this season, those guys are still playing in the team concept.
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Us, X, CU, and PC are all undefeated at home in conference play. Further, we have yet to win a game against a tournament team outside the Forum. Hoping we can change both of those.
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You're coaching MU on Tuesday.....what's your overall strategy and plan of attack? How do we get Kam in particular going?
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You're coaching MU on Tuesday.....what's your overall strategy and plan of attack? How do we get Kam in particular going?
Bench Kam and start Keeyan
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Bench Kam and start Keeyan
You have your moments but you're not Oscar Wilde. Also, witty people don't attempt to be witty every second of the day. It just flows naturally from their pen or mouth. It's time to wake up and get serious.
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Make 3 poiners. Have Kam running the pick and roll with Oso. They're going to drop Kalk defensively.
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Listen to people on the internet and not my coaching staff.
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Make 3 poiners. Have Kam running the pick and roll with Oso. They're going to drop Kalk defensively.
I think he's do to break out but I'd like to see him pick his spots in the paint to score or drop some dimes.
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You have your moments but you're not Oscar Wilde. Also, witty people don't attempt to be witty every second of the day. It just flows naturally from their pen or mouth. It's time to wake up and get serious.
He is unwakeable
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Two things going in Kam's favor: (i) a week for resting up; (ii) a chance to get some shots and see it go through the hoop during practice.
I think the former is the most important at this point. He seems a little dinged still. As to "getting Kam going" it's really just a matter of getting him shots. I'd like to see a bit more violence on the offensive end from Oso as opposed to the last game--make some quick drives, backdowns, or pass once receiving the ball rather than standing and waiting with his back to the hoop like in the X game. I think those can open things up for Kam on the 3 pt line (think that 3 he hit against UConn towards the end).
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You have your moments but you're not Oscar Wilde. Also, witty people don't attempt to be witty every second of the day. It just flows naturally from their pen or mouth. It's time to wake up and get serious.
Get serious about what? A college basketball game?
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He is unwakeable
You’re the one who said bench Kam because his head was somewhere and now you disagree?
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Two things going in Kam's favor: (i) a week for resting up; (ii) a chance to get some shots and see it go through the hoop during practice.
I think the former is the most important at this point. He seems a little dinged still. As to "getting Kam going" it's really just a matter of getting him shots. I'd like to see a bit more violence on the offensive end from Oso as opposed to the last game--make some quick drives, backdowns, or pass once receiving the ball rather than standing and waiting with his back to the hoop like in the X game. I think those can open things up for Kam on the 3 pt line (think that 3 he hit against UConn towards the end).
I thoroughly agree with you Jake. I'd really like Oso to be far more nasty and aggressive.
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He is unwakeable
I thought he was woke?
Gotta hit some 3's...tee it high and let it fly. Push tempo. Have fun and be the more agressive team. I think Shaka will feel more comfortable using his bench in this game?
We shoot 28% from 3...like the last time we played them...I don't like our chances.
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Not worried one bit. This game is going to be fun and Marquette can play with a nothing to lose mindset.
Don't think they're not motivated though. This team is big on individual game themes. They've used payback for Xavier and Providence and although they beat Creighton in December, they were swept in 3 games against them last year. We owe them another!
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Change everything MU has been doing and panic.
Pure iso ball.
Slow tempo.
Mindlessly jack 3's and pull ups from 18.
Channel Wisconsin or DePaul.
21-6. Conference road game against a ranked team. Both teams know what the other is going to do. Weather the energy storm from their crowd. Hope to hit open 3's. As opposed to Wednesday, use the bench to wear them down.
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Change everything MU has been doing and panic.
Pure iso ball.
Slow tempo.
Mindlessly jack 3's and pull ups from 18.
Channel Wisconsin or DePaul.
21-6. Conference road game against a ranked team. Both teams know what the other is going to do. Weather the energy storm from their crowd. Hope to hit open 3's. As opposed to Wednesday, use the bench to wear them down.
We need to get the 3-Ball on track. What's with the recent stagnation and hesitation Tower?
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Creighton is listed as his secondary option for cutting down the nets in Houston by John fanta.
https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/college-basketball-futures-bets-to-make-now-to-win-march-madness
They are good but I don’t think they are that good. 6 man rotation seems like a big weakness.
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There aren't instant answers. Let the kids grow.
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Creighton is listed as his secondary option for cutting down the nets in Houston by John fanta.
https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/college-basketball-futures-bets-to-make-now-to-win-march-madness
They are good but I don’t think they are that good. 6 man rotation seems like a big weakness.
Correct me if I am wrong, but that is not who he thinks will win, but which bets are the best value.
Edit: or maybe it is. Of course he states lets dive into 4 teams, and he talks about 3, with blurbs about 3 others.
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There aren't instant answers. Let the kids grow.
Just have Oso start shooting 3's.
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You’re the one who said bench Kam because his head was somewhere and now you disagree?
If you knew how to read, it was for the Xavier game in which he was crapping all over the floor. When a player is playing that poorly, he needs to sit and observe.
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Two former studs from Omaha Creighton Prep that played for MU.
Kerry Trotter a Nebraska HS all timer, and a fine player at MU. And who can forget that sidekick Italian Stallion, Vic Lazeretti?
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Two former studs from Omaha Creighton Prep that played for MU.
Kerry Trotter a Nebraska HS all timer, and a fine player at MU. And who can forget that sidekick Italian Stallion, Vic Lazeretti?
Last I heard, Vic Lazzaretti was a lawyer with Von Briesen, I think in St. Louis.
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If you knew how to read, it was for the Xavier game in which he was crapping all over the floor. When a player is playing that poorly, he needs to sit and observe.
The coach didn’t think so and Marquette won.
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I think we will need more from the freshmen than we got against Xavier. The only basket I remember from any of them was the goaltending on Gold. Ross is the only one who played at all in the second half, even when Kolek had 4 fouls.
Now, maybe Shaka figured his team doesn't play for 6 days so he could wring out the starters. OK
I want more against Creighton.
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I think we will need more from the freshmen than we got against Xavier. The only basket I remember from any of them was the goaltending on Gold. Ross is the only one who played at all in the second half, even when Kolek had 4 fouls.
Now, maybe Shaka figured his team doesn't play for 6 days so he could wring out the starters. OK
I want more against Creighton.
I hope Ben Gold brings it in Omaha. Similar to UConn with Clingan, he’s got skills that make him a match up problem for Kalkbrenner.
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When Creighton hosted Xavier and Xavier had Hunter in the game, Creighton put Kalk on Hunter and had him completely ignore Hunter. He just played a one man zone about 4 feet in front of the rim. I'm worried Crieghton will do that to Oso. Xavier was doing that early in the game and it really clogs up any cuts to the rim and bogs down this offense. I'd like to see Oso attack the rim and get into Kalk's body to take away his shot blocking and/or draw fouls. I'd also like to see Oso do a handoff to Kam at the top of the key if Kalk is ignoring him, and really hit Kam's defender on the screen after the handoff. Should give Jones some open looks, and if their defense gets into rotation then you can attack going downhill.
Yes. Nunge just sat in the lane begging Oso to shoot. He got that 10’-12’ floater going but it seemed a bit uncomfortable for him. If Oso can hit that little floater a bit further out it opens yet more for him. And as Oso goes, so do we.
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Get serious about what? A college basketball game?
Look, your incessant tomfoolery is about to cost Marquette a seed line.
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I think we will need more from the freshmen than we got against Xavier. The only basket I remember from any of them was the goaltending on Gold. Ross is the only one who played at all in the second half, even when Kolek had 4 fouls.
Now, maybe Shaka figured his team doesn't play for 6 days so he could wring out the starters. OK
I want more against Creighton.
I was ok going with the starters as much as possible with the week off before Creighton. It was incredibly important to hold serve at home.
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Look, your incessant tomfoolery is about to cost Marquette a seed line.
Thank god we won the secret scrimmage before the season started, bumped us up a line!
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How to we get UOF (ultimate offensive flow) in the h-c when teams sag on Ighodaro? What I'm looking for is less ball stopping and overdribbling and moving the rock when help comes. I don't have a problem with taking some floaters and a few walk-in trifectas.
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Look, your incessant tomfoolery is about to cost Marquette a seed line.
Especially after the Loyola scrimmage
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How to we get UOF (ultimate offensive flow) in the h-c when teams sag on Ighodaro? What I'm looking for is less ball stopping and overdribbling and moving the rock when help comes. I don't have a problem with taking some floaters and a few walk-in trifectas.
Flow Q=AxV. Increase area and/or velocity and you increase flow, simple flow rate.
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Flow Q=AxV. Increase area and/or velocity and you increase flow, simple flow rate.
I agree with this analysis
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I have to say I’m not in love with the Oso shotput that seems to clank off the back iron all too often. He really needs to work on a more traditional floater from 3-6 feet out.
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if it was discussed somewhere in here, i apologize, but why wasn't chase ross used more in the xavier game? 7 minutes, 0 for 1, 1 rebound, 1 steal
"conduct detrimental to the team"? injury? spoke up in class without raising his hand? gave shaka a wet willy?
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Was wondering the same, especially with a rather sub-par Sean outing.
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None of the freshmen played more than token minutes against X. All of the starters played 30+. Shaka hasn't said why.
I assume that he knew he had 6 days off before the next game and felt that playing the starters max minutes was the best way to win.
I hope for more contributions from the bench against Creighton.
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Flow Q=AxV. Increase area and/or velocity and you increase flow, simple flow rate.
The Mecca piss stream rate?
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Stevie just had such a great game on both ends and that's usually the place Chase plays.
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The Mecca piss stream rate?
That would involve unknown prostate variant, would make it empirical.
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The coach didn’t think so and Marquette won.
Yes, they overcame Kams miserable play in that game, something you still fail to grasp.
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Yes, they overcame Kams miserable play in that game, something you still fail to grasp.
What’s there to grasp? That he played bad? You can’t seem to grasp the coach played him 31 minutes. The same coach who has Marquette in first place in the Big East and poised for a protected seed. The coach must know less than you. He clearly should have sat Kam
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What’s there to grasp? That he played bad? You can’t seem to grasp the coach played him 31 minutes. The same coach who has Marquette in first place in the Big East and poised for a protected seed. The coach must know less than you. He clearly should have sat Kam
Shakalaka suxs
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What’s there to grasp? That he played bad? You can’t seem to grasp the coach played him 31 minutes. The same coach who has Marquette in first place in the Big East and poised for a protected seed. The coach must know less than you. He clearly should have sat Kam
Your arrogant smugness just oozes through your warped brain.
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Your arrogant smugness just oozes through your warped brain.
Lol you need a double patty today.
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Your arrogant smugness just oozes through your warped brain.
Uh. You’re the one saying you know more about who to play than the coach. That’s pretty smug.
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Chase played timid and that was not a game for the timid.
I think Gold could have played a bit more, and certainly would have with Freemantle heathy.
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Your arrogant smugness just oozes through your warped brain.
What you’re saying is, I’m right
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Let's take the case that CU beats St. John's tonight and MU on Tuesday. That leaves 3 remaining games for both CU and MU. Using Kenpom probabilities MU has a 63% and CU a 51% chance of winning their respective remaining 3 games.
In other words even if CU wins the next 2 games MU still has a slight 12% advantage.
As a side note CU has a 45% chance of beating both St. John's tonight and MU on Tuesday. When multiplying 45% times 51% CU only has a 23% chance of winning all five of their remaining games. If CU wins tonight CU only has a 32% of winning their remain 4 games while MU has a 63% to win their remaining three games. Advantage MU.
CU needs to loose 1 game, period.
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Let's take the case that CU beats St. John's tonight and MU on Tuesday. That leaves 3 remaining games for both CU and MU. Using Kenpom probabilities MU has a 63% and CU a 51% chance of winning their respective remaining 3 games.
In other words even if CU wins the next 2 games MU still has a slight 12% advantage.
As a side note CU has a 45% chance of beating both St. John's tonight and MU on Tuesday. When multiplying 45% times 51% CU only has a 23% chance of winning all five of their remaining games. If CU wins tonight CU only has a 32% of winning their remain 4 games while MU has a 63% to win their remaining three games. Advantage MU.
CU needs to loose 1 game, period.
Sure, and hopefully it’s tonight.
Don’t sleep on Providence though.
As I’ve said a few times people are underestimating them yet again.
They don’t lose at home and have a lot of home games.
Hopefully they lose at UConn on Wednesday but nothing is a given.
Then on March 1 either them or X will lose, but the one that doesn’t is still in play, and I’d take Providence because they are at home.
Ideal scenario is Providence loses at UConn and beats X at home, but we will see.
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Let's take the case that CU beats St. John's tonight and MU on Tuesday. That leaves 3 remaining games for both CU and MU. Using Kenpom probabilities MU has a 63% and CU a 51% chance of winning their respective remaining 3 games.
In other words even if CU wins the next 2 games MU still has a slight 12% advantage.
As a side note CU has a 45% chance of beating both St. John's tonight and MU on Tuesday. When multiplying 45% times 51% CU only has a 23% chance of winning all five of their remaining games. If CU wins tonight CU only has a 32% of winning their remain 4 games while MU has a 63% to win their remaining three games. Advantage MU.
CU needs to loose 1 game, period.
Although KenPom and others can throw out all sorts of stats to support their percentages, they are ultimately just educated guesses. I think we can say that having won tonight, Creighton's chances of beating both SJU and MU just went up significantly. According to ESPN, their chances of winning Tuesday are 70%. After that, Creighton plays next Saturday against Villanova and then finishes against Georgetown and at DePaul. Playing at Villanova might present a challenge, though probably not much more than playing today at St. John's. The other two should not, even if they are playing DePaul on Senior Day. Marquette has to play @Butler and home against DePaul and SJU. Butler did just beat Xavier and we have to play them on Senior Night, but honestly, looking at the two schedules, it looks to me like pretty much a wash.
So to me it looks like a probable tie for the Big East title unless something unexpected happens. Of course that can happen, but thus far this season, it has not happened much. Providence does have to play two of the better teams, but plays them both at home where they have not lost this year. They also Seton Hall who might be making a last gasp attempt for a Dance bid, but again, at home. Xavier and Providence play each other, which should effectively knock one of them out of the running.
But it still ends up looking like a tie between Marquette and Creighton. Since Creighton was the pre-season pick to win it and Marquette was picked 9th, that as a great result.
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Ideal scenario is Providence loses at UConn and beats X at home, but we will see.
I think we will see exactly that!
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Watching Creighton against SJU did not make me more optimistic about Tuesday. That is too bad because the lack of a signature road win is the weakness in MU's resume'.
I think Kalkbrenner sags off Oso and clogs the lane. I think the Omaha crowd is going to be raucous. I think Creighton is going to be very efficient in offense.
For MU to win, hit 3's. If Gold can hit two or three and force Kalkbrenner out of the lane for 10-12 minutes, that would be helpful.
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Watching Creighton against SJU did not make me more optimistic about Tuesday. That is too bad because the lack of a signature road win is the weakness in MU's resume'.
I think Kalkbrenner sags off Oso and clogs the lane. I think the Omaha crowd is going to be raucous. I think Creighton is going to be very efficient in offense.
For MU to win, hit 3's. If Gold can hit two or three and force Kalkbrenner out of the lane for 10-12 minutes, that would be helpful.
We'll need to play our best game of the season, which certainly can happen. But gotta play better all-around ball than we have the last few games -- including hitting more open 3s than Creighton does.
Definitely winnable, but it will be really tough ... as it should be when you face an excellent team on the road.
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Watching Creighton against SJU did not make me more optimistic about Tuesday. That is too bad because the lack of a signature road win is the weakness in MU's resume'.
I think Kalkbrenner sags off Oso and clogs the lane. I think the Omaha crowd is going to be raucous. I think Creighton is going to be very efficient in offense.
For MU to win, hit 3's. If Gold can hit two or three and force Kalkbrenner out of the lane for 10-12 minutes, that would be helpful.
I think we win in Omaha Tuesday night. I expect MU to benefit from a week off, and Creighton having had a 2 game swing to the East Coast in 4 days. Schiereman looks like he's gassed. I expect we will see a bit more of Sean, Chase, and Gold than we did against X. Sean will get into Nembhard for 12-15 minutes. We will push the pace, Kam and O-Max bounce back from their subpar performances against X, and we win by 7.
This team controls its own destiny. Their ranking of 14 in the Bracket Reveal can provide a bit more fuel to the F'em theme. Win at Creighton and we have a very good chance of winning the Big East title and getting the Number 1 seed for Big East tournament.
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I think we win in Omaha Tuesday night. I expect MU to benefit from a week off, and Creighton having had a 2 game swing to the East Coast in 4 days. Schiereman looks like he's gassed. I expect we will see a bit more of Sean, Chase, and Gold than we did against X. Sean will get into Nembhard for 12-15 minutes. We will push the pace, Kam and O-Max bounce back from their subpar performances against X, and we win by 7.
This team controls its own destiny. Their ranking of 14 in the Bracket Reveal can provide a bit more fuel to the F'em theme. Win at Creighton and we have a very good chance of winning the Big East title and getting the Number 1 seed for Big East tournament.
I agree on all points.
I expect a good performance on Tuesday, and a win.
I think Shaka tries to run them out of the gym.
The shots have to fall, and thats been an issue of late, but hopefully we push the pace and drive early and often and don’t settle for 3s, unless they are the drive and kick out variety.
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We have a good shot at winning if we can out score them.
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I agree on all points.
I expect a good performance on Tuesday, and a win.
I think Shaka tries to run them out of the gym.
The shots have to fall, and thats been an issue of late, but hopefully we push the pace and drive early and often and don’t settle for 3s, unless they are the drive and kick out variety.
I agree Dr V and Elon. Run them out of the gym and hit some drive and kick wide open threes at a good clip and we can win this game. I know Kalk was out last time but we man handled their guards defensively and we can and will do it again with the title on the line. Go MU!!
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We have a good shot at winning if we can out score them.
I agree with this assessment. ;D
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Watching Creighton against SJU did not make me more optimistic about Tuesday. That is too bad because the lack of a signature road win is the weakness in MU's resume'.
I think Kalkbrenner sags off Oso and clogs the lane. I think the Omaha crowd is going to be raucous. I think Creighton is going to be very efficient in offense.
For MU to win, hit 3's. If Gold can hit two or three and force Kalkbrenner out of the lane for 10-12 minutes, that would be helpful.
Yes
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We have a good shot at winning if we can out score them.
Always spot on
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One thing it will depend on is how the game will be called. We can speed this team up and wear them down but if they call every touch foul that will definitely be in Creighton’s favor.
Let’s hope the refs let the players decide the championship and don’t have a quick whistle.
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One thing it will depend on is how the game will be called. We can speed this team up and wear them down but if they call every touch foul that will definitely be in Creighton’s favor.
Let’s hope the refs let the players decide the championship and don’t have a quick whistle.
Having been to several Creighton games, I can assure you they get very favorable whistles from the refs.
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I think we win in Omaha Tuesday night. I expect MU to benefit from a week off, and Creighton having had a 2 game swing to the East Coast in 4 days. Schiereman looks like he's gassed. I expect we will see a bit more of Sean, Chase, and Gold than we did against X. Sean will get into Nembhard for 12-15 minutes. We will push the pace, Kam and O-Max bounce back from their subpar performances against X, and we win by 7.
This team controls its own destiny. Their ranking of 14 in the Bracket Reveal can provide a bit more fuel to the F'em theme. Win at Creighton and we have a very good chance of winning the Big East title and getting the Number 1 seed for Big East tournament.
I agree with this analysis
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Flow Q=AxV. Increase area and/or velocity and you increase flow, simple flow rate.
I agree with this analysis
Nerds.
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Nerds.
Proud FFP nerd
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I think we win in Omaha Tuesday night. I expect MU to benefit from a week off, and Creighton having had a 2 game swing to the East Coast in 4 days. Schiereman looks like he's gassed. I expect we will see a bit more of Sean, Chase, and Gold than we did against X. Sean will get into Nembhard for 12-15 minutes. We will push the pace, Kam and O-Max bounce back from their subpar performances against X, and we win by 7.
Absolutely, it could happen just like this. I like it!
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Ugh, hello 2 seed in BET
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Kalkbrenner looked really gassed at the end of last night's game. Even the announcers were commenting on it.
Wearing him out early on Tuesday would be really helpful.
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Kalkbrenner looked really gassed at the end of last night's game. Even the announcers were commenting on it.
Wearing him out early on Tuesday would be really helpful.
Did we ever get confirmation on what his “illness” was? Maybe still affecting him?
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Did we ever get confirmation on what his “illness” was? Maybe still affecting him?
Pretty sure it was mono.
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Pretty sure it was mono.
Yes
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Kalkbrenner looked really gassed at the end of last night's game. Even the announcers were commenting on it.
Wearing him out early on Tuesday would be really helpful.
Did we ever get confirmation on what his “illness” was? Maybe still affecting him?
Coach McDermott playing Kalk heavy minutes 37, 45 , 36, 37,37 the last 5 games
Averaging 32.2 for the year
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Pretty sure it was mono.
NOT saying this is the case, but having had mono in the past year, I am very conscious of this possibility:
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mononucleosis-can-it-recur/
Far more likely (my opinion) he is simply tired from playing so much.
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We have a good shot at winning if we can out score them.
and this is why i like to hang out with you chili...you related to john madden?
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Afraid of another Uconn type game.
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Afraid of another Uconn type game.
I don’t think it’s possible based on how our guards locked theirs down last time. The whole time I was wondering how Alexander Nembhard and Kaluma were not even a factor. I don’t think Kalkbrener’s absence was a factor in that. Hopefully Stevie, Sean, Chase, Kam and Tyler are ready to do the same.
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I don’t think it’s possible based on how our guards locked theirs down last time. The whole time I was wondering how Alexander Nembhard and Kaluma were not even a factor. I don’t think Kalkbrener’s absence was a factor in that. Hopefully Stevie, Sean, Chase, Kam and Tyler are ready to do the same.
Schierman will be the key - he’s been in a pretty good shooting slump of late - if that continues, I like our chances even more.
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I truly believe that if Marquette wins this game they will shoot up to a 2 seed. If road wins are truly the biggest resume builder this will be the piece we are missing.
I have a hard time believing that the big east winner at 25-6 (17-3) would not get a 2 seed.
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I truly believe that if Marquette wins this game they will shoot up to a 2 seed. If road wins are truly the biggest resume builder this will be the piece we are missing.
I have a hard time believing that the big east winner at 25-6 (17-3) would not get a 2 seed.
You have to play this game for everyone else too though:
Baylor could finish 24-7 (13-5) in a much tougher conference
Texas could finish 25-6 (14-4) in a much tougher conference (both can't happen since they play each other)
UCLA could finish 27-4 (18-2) and win the Pac 12
Arizona could finish 27-4 (16-4) and win the PAC 12 (obviously both can't happen since they play each other)
Tennessee could finish 24-7 (13-5) and come in 2nd in the SEC
Virginia could finish 25-4 (17-3) and win the ACC
That's just the 2 and 3 seeds who are clearly above Marquette at this point. When all is said and done, there will be more than 8 teams who seem deserving a top 2 seed. Marquette needs to win out the regular season (and possibly win the BET) AND get some help just to be in that conversation.
I think a 3 is in the realm of possibility. First step is getting that W tomorrow
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You have to play this game for everyone else too though:
Baylor could finish 24-7 (13-5) in a much tougher conference
Texas could finish 25-6 (14-4) in a much tougher conference (both can't happen since they play each other)
UCLA could finish 27-4 (18-2) and win the Pac 12
Arizona could finish 27-4 (16-4) and win the PAC 12 (obviously both can't happen since they play each other)
Tennessee could finish 24-7 (13-5) and come in 2nd in the SEC
Virginia could finish 25-4 (17-3) and win the ACC
That's just the 2 and 3 seeds who are clearly above Marquette at this point. When all is said and done, there will be more than 8 teams who seem deserving a top 2 seed. Marquette needs to win out the regular season (and possibly win the BET) AND get some help just to be in that conversation.
I think a 3 is in the realm of possibility. First step is getting that W tomorrow
Brother Knower of Ball:
If they run the table and are double Big East champions, what's the likelihood we are a two seed.
Asking for a friend. 8-)
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Creighton a 5.5 point favorite tomorrow.
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Brother Knower of Ball:
If they run the table and are double Big East champions, what's the likelihood we are a two seed.
Asking for a friend. 8-)
I think it would depend on who they beat. I don’t know that we’d see a huge bump. Also, I’m not sure if the Final is taken that much into consideration.
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Creighton a 5.5 point favorite tomorrow.
Same as Marquette was over Xavier, wasn't it? If we have the go-ahead possession in the closing 20 or so seconds, don't leave them the 6+seconds that Xavier gave us!
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Same as Marquette was over Xavier, wasn't it? If we have the go-ahead possession in the closing 20 or so seconds, don't leave them the 6+seconds that Xavier gave us!
Marquette may have been up to a 7 point favorite on Xavier.
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Marquette may have been up to a 7 point favorite on Xavier.
OK. But if we have the go-ahead possession in the closing 20 or so seconds .... :D
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My heart and my brain are conflicted. My heart says MU gets the road win their resume needs. By brain says take Creighton and give the points.
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My heart and my brain are conflicted. My heart says MU gets the road win their resume needs. By brain says take Creighton and give the points.
Nobody has ever said follow your brain, but I have heard some people say follow your heart.
Use your head and follow your heart IMO.
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Same as Marquette was over Xavier, wasn't it? If we have the go-ahead possession in the closing 20 or so seconds, don't leave them the 6+seconds that Xavier gave us!
If you're down by 1, as X was, you need to score. You can't worry too much about how much time you leave. You can't pass up a good shot just to milk the clock.
I would hope we'd do the same if we're down 1 needing to score. I'd just hope we'd play better defense after we score to take the lead.
Now, if it's tied, you definitely want the last shot if possible and don't want to give the other team an opportunity.
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Creighton -5...always a tricky number...I think MU shoots well from 3 and wins this one...but I'm not putting any $ on it.
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If you're down by 1, as X was, you need to score. You can't worry too much about how much time you leave. You can't pass up a good shot just to milk the clock.
I would hope we'd do the same if we're down 1 needing to score. I'd just hope we'd play better defense after we score to take the lead.
Now, if it's tied, you definitely want the last shot if possible and don't want to give the other team an opportunity.
Totally agree. You don’t pass up a lay up down one with 7 seconds left. Period.
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Creighton a 5.5 point favorite tomorrow.
Billy Packer was right
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My heart and my brain are conflicted. My heart says MU gets the road win their resume needs. By brain says take Creighton and give the points.
Hate to say it but take Creighton money line. Don’t think this game will be close if we lose. Very tough place to play and they will be fired up. Most hostile building this team will see.
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My heart and my brain are conflicted. My heart says MU gets the road win their resume needs. By brain says take Creighton and give the points.
I think this is a tough spot for a team with a thin bench. Creighton's starters have all played at least 70 minutes in the past week between the Providence 2OT game and the St. John's game that was tougher than expected. They flew from Omaha to Providence to Omaha to New York to Omaha. Those are some of the longest trips in the Big East. And their players have had a short turnaround (3 days) to our break (6 days).
None of that guarantees anything, but I would lean Marquette and the points. The only game Marquette lost by more than 5 was at UConn when the Huskies had inexplicably fortunate shooting. We may not get the win, but I think fresher legs and a deeper bench keeps us inside the number.
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Completely agree - McDermott failed to develop his bench this year, so hopefully Shaka uses some full court pressure to wear them down.
Agree. Since they aren't deep - only six players - we should press and pierce. We can wear them down. Get them in foul trouble and win with our agressiveness. Marquette will win.
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I think this is a tough spot for a team with a thin bench. Creighton's starters have all played at least 70 minutes in the past week between the Providence 2OT game and the St. John's game that was tougher than expected. They flew from Omaha to Providence to Omaha to New York to Omaha. Those are some of the longest trips in the Big East. And their players have had a short turnaround (3 days) to our break (6 days).
None of that guarantees anything, but I would lean Marquette and the points. The only game Marquette lost by more than 5 was at UConn when the Huskies had inexplicably fortunate shooting. We may not get the win, but I think fresher legs and a deeper bench keeps us inside the number.
I agree with your analysis. I am definitely taking MU +5.5, may even take them on the Moneyline too. I think we are going to win.
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Afraid of another Uconn type game.
Anyone who knows ball knew UConn was ready for us and we weren’t going to get out of there with a W.
Tomorrow night will be different.
CU has looked slow their last few games.
It could go either way, of course, but CU doesn’t nearly scare me like @ UCONN did.
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Anyone who knows ball knew UConn was ready for us and we weren’t going to get out of there with a W.
Tomorrow night will be different.
CU has looked slow their last few games.
It could go either way, of course, but CU doesn’t nearly scare me like @ UCONN did.
Can’t tell if this is a bit
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None of the freshmen played more than token minutes against X. All of the starters played 30+. Shaka hasn't said why.
I assume that he knew he had 6 days off before the next game and felt that playing the starters max minutes was the best way to win.
I hope for more contributions from the bench against Creighton.
I thought this was odd, because it seemed like Mitchell and Kolek were the only starters playing decent.
Oso eventually woke up and Prosper did not show up until the last five minutes.
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I don’t feel great about this one.
That said, always bet on Shaka as an underdog.
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It's GameDay!!! How's everybody doing?? Will we drop the hammer? Play with power and authority? I'm just going to say this: Our best beats Creighton's best. I fully believe we're the better team and have more weapons. I don't care that we're playing in Omaha, the mindset should be this is our game from the tip. We absolutely have the right guys to get the W. I expect a much looser team on the road and for us to get our perimeter J's on track. We can usurp this conference title TONIGHT. Let's Freaking Go!!!!
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It's GameDay!!! How's everybody doing?? Will we drop the hammer? Play with power and authority? I'm just going to say this: Our best beats Creighton's best. I fully believe we're the better team and have more weapons. I don't care that we're playing in Omaha, the mindset should be this is our game from the tip. We absolutely have the right guys to get the W. I expect a much looser team on the road and for us to get our perimeter J's on track. We can usurp this conference title TONIGHT. Let's Freaking Go!!!!
I’m doing good today
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It's GameDay!!! How's everybody doing?? Will we drop the hammer? Play with power and authority? I'm just going to say this: Our best beats Creighton's best. I fully believe we're the better team and have more weapons. I don't care that we're playing in Omaha, the mindset should be this is our game from the tip. We absolutely have the right guys to get the W. I expect a much looser team on the road and for us to get our perimeter J's on track. We can usurp this conference title TONIGHT. Let's Freaking Go!!!!
I hope MU's players can match your energy. Please share your greenies with them!
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I’m doing good today
Doing "good"? WTF?
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I hope MU's players can match your energy. Please share your greenies with them!
I drink coffee but don't do drugs.
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GM
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Hoping the game is played.
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Hoping the game is played.
Is this a weather-related comment? If so, and if Marquette's team is already in Omaha, I'd be very surprised if the game isn't played.
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Yes, it is weather related.
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Omaha's weather looks fine today and tonight.
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Play ball.
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I drink coffee but don't do drugs.
Umm....
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17724925/
I love coffee, but caffeine in its pure form is a bad ass drug. Fortunately, the minute amount in a few cups of coffee can be handled, but your statement implying that caffeine is not really a drug is simply false.
OK, on to the game. I have no idea why, but I think we win this one.
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Doing "good"? WTF?
Yes, I’m doing good. Thanks for asking.
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Umm....
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17724925/
I love coffee, but caffeine in its pure form is a bad ass drug. Fortunately, the minute amount in a few cups of coffee can be handled, but your statement implying that caffeine is not really a drug is simply false.
OK, on to the game. I have no idea why, but I think we win this one.
Coffee seems to be good and bad for you depending on the year. I have too much but it's not egregious.
We absolutely have the pieces to beat that team in Omaha.
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Feels like a schedule L but hoping we say f*ck ‘em
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I’m doing good today
Doing good also and working. Did some caffeine this morning.
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I don't ask for a lot. I'd just like to see Nova upset Xavier in the early game tonight; then Marquette take care of business against Creighton; and then UConn knock off Providence tomorrow night. A two-game lead heading into the final three-game stretch would be really nice.
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I don't ask for a lot. I'd just like to see Nova upset Xavier in the early game tonight; then Marquette take care of business against Creighton; and then UConn knock off Providence tomorrow night. A two-game lead heading into the final three-game stretch would be really nice.
FIFY
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Doing good also and working. Did some caffeine this morning.
Ripped a few hits this morning
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Ripped a few hits this morning
A few hits of the bong or crack pipe.
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A few hits of the bong or crack pipe.
(https://media.tenor.com/odyVsZbC-OYAAAAC/why-not-both-why-not.gif)
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A few hits of the bong or crack pipe.
I'll stick with the "world's most widely used drug" in my mugs of strong coffee.
In about 11 hours or so, hopefully we will be celebrating our big W. Then screw coffee. Time for alcohol!
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Knowing whats on the line tonight, is this the biggest Marquette game over the last 10 years?
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Knowing whats on the line tonight, is this the biggest Marquette game over the last 10 years?
We played in an Elite 8 game less than 10 years ago - so no.
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Knowing whats on the line tonight, is this the biggest Marquette game over the last 10 years?
I'd say every single game that could've clinched the BE title that we pissed away was bigger in the moment back in 18/19
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I had little confidence going into the UConn game and unfortunately UConn proved my lack of confidence to be correct. I am bordering on very confident for tonight's game. I think they bust out of the gate on offense tonight and get the job done in fancy fashion.
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I'd say every single game that could've clinched the BE title that we pissed away was bigger in the moment back in 18/19
Did you have to remind us? ;D
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I had little confidence going into the UConn game and unfortunately UConn proved by lack of confidence to be correct. I am bordering on very confident for tonight's game. I think they bust out of the gate on offense tonight and get the job done in fancy fashion.
I'm with you Goose. What do we do with Kalky?
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I had little confidence going into the UConn game and unfortunately UConn proved by lack of confidence to be correct. I am bordering on very confident for tonight's game. I think they bust out of the gate on offense tonight and get the job done in fancy fashion.
I feel the same, Goose. Reading the Gameday article from the Omaha paper, Creighton players are talking just like UConn players did about having circled this game on the calendar. UConn was beyond due for a breakout game after their severe slump. Creighton, otoh, has been nothing but ascendant since the game in Milwaukee and getting Kalkbrenner back. This game feels different. It’s almost like Creighton feels like our home W wasn’t legit. Let’s remove the asterisk tonight!
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GAME DAY BABY! How much fun is this playing meaningful basketball again in February. I think Marquette is deeper and has better talent. Playing at Creighton with thie rabid fans is a task but I think Shaka has the skills to to coach the team through this. GO MARQUETTE!
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Muggsy
He is going his points and rebounds and I am fine with that. I do not want to see them double teaming him too much and leaving the three wide open. I think we win this game with a big offensive outburst tonight.
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Muggsy
He is going his points and rebounds and I am fine with that. I do not want to see them double teaming him too much and leaving the three wide open. I think we win this game with a big offensive outburst tonight.
Sounds strategy. Nembhard can go off at times. I expect Kam to break out tonight and OMax to be amped and ready.
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In Round 1, King and Columa were 12-12 from the 2 point sector (mostly paint). Both teams shot poorly from three as that was both the focus of each defense. Creighton's guards turned it over a ton. Guard play wins this game.
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Love the confidence boys!!
I’m taking CU -5. Sadly.
I get the tired legs theory, the travel for CU. But I think our O has been figured out.
Hope I’m wrong. I’m placing this bet as a hopeful reverse jinx.
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Muggsy
He is going his points and rebounds and I am fine with that. I do not want to see them double teaming him too much and leaving the three wide open. I think we win this game with a big offensive outburst tonight.
Kalkbrenner looked tired at the end of the St. John's. With our depth I hope we can run these guys ragged.
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Love the confidence boys!!
I’m taking CU -5. Sadly.
I get the tired legs theory, the travel for CU. But I think our O has been figured out.
Hope I’m wrong. I’m placing this bet as a hopeful reverse jinx.
If you win the bet, then you should split the money among those of us who said Marquette would win. just think of it as your penance for your sin.
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If you win the bet, then you should split the money among those of us who said Marquette would win. just think of it as your penance for your sin.
Honestly… not a bad idea.
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Kalkbrenner looked tired at the end of the St. John's. With our depth I hope we can run these guys ragged.
Coach didn't seem too confident trying to use that depth against Xavier.
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Ripped a few hits this morning
Cool, we got to get together before an MU game and totally do hits.
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Coach didn't seem too confident trying to use that depth against Xavier.
I think Shaka realized the importance of holding serve at home, so he rode the starters as much as possible, even if some of them struggled. I’m expecting the team to be more relaxed tonite and play much better, and for Shaka to utilize the bench much more.
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I think Shaka realized the importance of holding serve at home, so he rode the starters as much as possible, even if some of them struggled. I’m expecting the team to be more relaxed tonite and play much better, and for Shaka to utilize the bench much more.
Especially with the next game 6 days away.
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MU has a chance to make a statement today to win the Big East and make the "Fuxc 'Em Prophecy" ring true. Winning away from home against Top 50 Pomeroy teams is no easy matter: MU has only done this once in the past two seasons (Nova, last season).
But, it's our time. The young team will be jazzed and the shots will fall.
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Cool, we got to get together before an MU game and totally do hits.
It helps me focus on focusing
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Pre-gaming at Harrah’s in Council Bluffs. Winning money and drinking free beer! 4 hours till game time…can’t wait for a MU victory.
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Hope you’re right. I was pretty sure that we’d lose at Hartford, and Im not feeling confident about Omaha.
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Kolek under 13.5 points.
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Team just took buses across the street to the arena
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Team just took buses across the street to the arena
denverMU:
Glad you were able to make it to the game and giving us updates .
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My gambling site had 97% of Moneyline Action on Creighton and 76% of the action on Creighton to cover 6. I took MU on the Moneyline, and took them +5.5 when I bet. Also took Kam Jones to score over 12.5 at -105 and Stevie Mitchell to get more than 3 rebounds at +115.
I feel we match up with CU much better than UConn. CU doesn't pound the offensive glass very well, and their 3 pt defense is middle of the pack in D-1 (though much better than ours - didn't realize we were quite so bad defending the 3 ranking 256th)
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My gambling site had 97% of Moneyline Action on Creighton and 76% of the action on Creighton to cover 6. I took MU on the Moneyline, and took them +5.5 when I bet. Also took Kam Jones to score over 12.5 at -105 and Stevie Mitchell to get more than 3 rebounds at +115.
5 for 5 on tonights game for a big payday. Icing on the cake for tonight's massive win!
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I don't ask for a lot. I'd just like to see Nova upset Xavier in the early game tonight; then Marquette take care of business against Creighton; and then UConn knock off Providence tomorrow night. A two-game lead heading into the final three-game stretch would be really nice.
I don't ask for a lot. I'd just like to see UCONN beat Providence at home when they're a seven-point favorite. It's not like I'm even asking for an upset.