F*ck 'Em
Enjoy the ride.
That is all.
Ditto.
The journey is fun with this team. Keep taking care of each stop on the journey, and the destination will take care of itself.
This has been an awesome season, and this team is incredibly fun to cheer for.
I'm loving it. I know it's a bit of an ask, but would love if we could just win the next 3 so I can have the potential to celebrate in Indy.
(sorry for creating all the trap games with my looking ahead)
I want first place so Kolek can say I told you f' n so! MFr's!
Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 11, 2023, 04:43:55 PM
I'm loving it. I know it's a bit of an ask, but would love if we could just win the next 3 so I can have the potential to celebrate in Indy.
(sorry for creating all the trap games with my looking ahead)
Hadn't even thought of that, JB. Definitely would be cool to be at the game we clinch.
We really needed UConn to win today.
Quote from: bilsu on February 11, 2023, 06:24:21 PM
We really needed UConn to win today.
It would have been nice, but we do control our own destiny.
Quote from: bilsu on February 11, 2023, 06:24:21 PM
We really needed UConn to win today.
Would have been nice but excited to see the team in this position. Meaningful late season basketball is fun
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 11, 2023, 03:03:13 PM
F*ck 'Em
Enjoy the ride.
That is all.
I agree with this analysis
Quote from: bilsu on February 11, 2023, 06:24:21 PM
We really needed UConn to win today.
Actually, we didn't.
And we'll have needed it even less after The Provi beats Creighton on Tuesday and we thrash X on Wednesday.
I know it's difficult, but can't you at least
try to enjoy this fun, successful season?
Quote from: MU82 on February 11, 2023, 06:36:48 PM
Actually, we didn't.
And we'll have needed it even less after The Provi beats Creighton on Tuesday and we thrash X on Wednesday.
I know it's difficult, but can't you at least try to enjoy this fun, successful season?
At some point, I'd think the Moser stans would look up and realize Marquette is 100x better off than Oklahoma, and that our program is in a much better place both short and long term with Shaka than Moser's program is.
Morter Poser? What was his record in a low major conference other than catching lightning in a bottle twice?
ATM ranked 10th and atop the Big East. What would have thought that when this season began?!
Quote from: Daniel on February 11, 2023, 07:06:10 PM
ATM ranked 10th and atop the Big East. What would have thought that when this season began?!
Let's pump the brakes until dry February is over.
I did think it was funny on the broadcast when they stated this was our best big east start since 18/19. 🤦♂️
We saw Smart make some adjustments today. When GT threw the ball into the post Marquette surrounded the player and it worked. I realize we're not talking about the same kind of players UConn has inside (How did they lose today- I have to watch that game later) but MU didn't play one on one in the post defense. Pressure. And rebounds were more available after the misses. On the offensive end I saw more of an effort to rebound as well and not run back for what a stop in transition? Hey, the entire team played well. Jones is back with the 3. Oso is efficient and he pushed his chest into a few guys coming into the lane today. Kolek is outstanding. Stand up. Take a bow Tyler. OMax has only been here for a year but people expect so much because he in 6'11 and athletic. It's difficult say how to coach him. Be more aggressive? Fit in like you have and play team ball and play better than you have recently. OMax had a good game today. Don't get me wrong- he will learn how to move more fluidly and not fall down every time he flies to the rim. The young guys got some experience. Bring on Xavier!!! I can't wait. Cheers
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2023, 07:01:14 PM
At some point, I'd think the Moser stans would look up and realize Marquette is 100x better off than Oklahoma, and that our program is in a much better place both short and long term with Shaka than Moser's program is.
You'd effen think so, wouldn't you?
BTW, the great Porter Moser lost by 100 again today. Okla is now 12-13 on the season. Can you imagine what these anti-Shaka mopes would be saying if we had a losing record in mid- February?
I wanted Porter Moser and Brian Wardle to play noon ball to determine who was going to get the MU job.
Guess I have to settle for Shaka.
Beat Xavier.
Don't get swept by them.
ND sucks
Awesome season and looking forward to what I think will be a strong finish.
Love that we're in control of our own destiny, though Creighton essentially is as well. If both MU and CU win their next two, there's a good chance 2/21 decides the #1 seed in the BET.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2023, 07:01:14 PM
At some point, I'd think the Moser stans would look up and realize Marquette is 100x better off than Oklahoma, and that our program is in a much better place both short and long term with Shaka than Moser's program is.
that's only if they can pull their head out of Porter's ass long enough to see the records...
There are folks out here still upset that Shaka got the job over Moser?
I have to admit that I initially thought Moser would be the better hire based on what he had done at Loyola, but I was ok with hiring Shaka too. I sure am glad it was Shaka.
Quote from: Goose on February 12, 2023, 11:12:11 AM
There are folks out here still upset that Shaka got the job over Moser?
Looked back through to see what I said about the candidates initially and here was my list:
1. Beilein
2. Shaka
3. Moser
I did hedge and say Moser may be the better fit long term after they made the S16. Was surprised to see that post of mine because I don't ever remembering feeling that way. I always thought he'd be in over his head at the P6 level. I said Shaka would have us competing for an NCAA berth in year one.
In hindsight, Beilein was a short term option, but I was getting very desperate for any type of quick success as Wojo had completely bottomed out at that point and it felt like the ceiling just kept getting lower and lower each year. At Beilein's age, I just thought there would be more emphasis on winning right away.
I was
1. Gates
2. TJO
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Moser
Much happier we got Shaka.
Related to Marquette being and staying in first place: putting my "Wednesday night against a ranked team" record on the line and coming up for the Xavier game now. Lots of tix available. If you don't have tix, get you some and make the place loud on Wednesday.
I didn't trust MU's administration.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 12, 2023, 12:18:33 PM
Looked back through to see what I said about the candidates initially and here was my list:
1. Beilein
2. Shaka
3. Moser
I did hedge and say Moser may be the better fit long term after they made the S16. Was surprised to see that post of mine because I don't ever remembering feeling that way. I always thought he'd be in over his head at the P6 level. I said Shaka would have us competing for an NCAA berth in year one.
In hindsight, Beilein was a short term option, but I was getting very desperate for any type of quick success as Wojo had completely bottomed out at that point and it felt like the ceiling just kept getting lower and lower each year. At Beilein's age, I just thought there would be more emphasis on winning right away.
I looked back too. The only post I saw where I formally ranked them I had Moser at 1a and Gates at 1b. My recollection is that I was back and forth between them. I honestly didn't think Shaka was a real possibility initially and didn't have him in the mix (although, admittedly, I had a couple posts that were critical of Shaka). As soon as MU hired Shaka, I was enthusiastically on board.
I'm happy Shaka is our coach. I really hope that his years in Texas will help him realize that the grass isn't always greener in the P5 and he'll stick around. Marquette's commitment to MBB is right up there with anyone, and I really believe that there is nothing that anyone else can provide Shaka that MU can't provide. I hope he's here for the long haul.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 12, 2023, 12:51:50 PM
I looked back too. The only post I saw where I formally ranked them I had Moser at 1a and Gates at 1b. My recollection is that I was back and forth between them. I honestly didn't think Shaka was a real possibility initially and didn't have him in the mix (although, admittedly, I had a couple posts that were critical of Shaka). As soon as MU hired Shaka, I was enthusiastically on board.
I'm happy Shaka is our coach. I really hope that his years in Texas will help him realize that the grass isn't always greener in the P5 and he'll stick around. Marquette's commitment to MBB is right up there with anyone, and I really believe that there is nothing that anyone else can provide Shaka that MU can't provide. I hope he's here for the long haul.
Shaka is a great coach, knows who he wants to recruit and how he wants to play. All great. He's been to a medium size university, a huge university, and now Marquette, And, I think that he has had this much success his second year - regardless of how he ret goes - is really a good thing for his mindset. He can do it at Marquette. So hoping he stays a long time too! Go Marquette!
My list was:
1). Dwyane Wade
2). Shaka
3). Moser
4). (Yikes)
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2023, 07:03:53 PM
Morter Poser? What was his record in a low major conference other than catching lightning in a bottle twice?
Definitely happy with Shaka, but catching lighting in a bottle twice is a pretty good feat.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 12, 2023, 01:58:28 PM
Definitely happy with Shaka, but catching lighting in a bottle twice is a pretty good feat.
Some people suggested Brian Wardle 😂😂
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 12, 2023, 02:00:06 PM
Some people suggested Brian Wardle 😂😂
In defense of those people, I think they were hoping he would have better success with more resources and not move on to a higher job if he was successful.
I think we achieved hiring a coach, that's not looking to move on if he's successful with Shaka.
I thought Wardle because I thought the administration would end up with him by default. I was wrong about the administration.
Mmmmm. I am soaking in the delicious au jus of first place in February!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 12, 2023, 02:00:06 PM
Some people suggested Brian Wardle 😂😂
DuaneWade wanted his childhood buddy, Porter House Moser. 6000 word opus.
Quote from: connie on February 12, 2023, 02:53:13 PM
Mmmmm. I am soaking in the delicious au jus of first place in February!
In before the fade
My list before Shaka made himself known was:
1. Craig Smith
2. Dennis Gates
3. Beilein
After Shaka made himself known Beilein was bumped off and Gates was slotted down to #3. Glad MU didn't go with Smith, though he seems to be building something at Utah.
Quote from: Goose on February 12, 2023, 11:12:11 AM
There are folks out here still upset that Shaka got the job over Moser?
bilsu was strongly pro-Moser and anti-Shaka. Two years later, Shaka is about to go to his second NCAA tournament while Moser misses again, and Moser took over a much healthier program than Smart did. Marquette, Arizona (Tommy Lloyd), and Iowa State (TJO) are the clear winners of the 2021 coaching carousel.
Goose nailed it when he said that Shaka will be the best hire Marquette ever made.
He just seems to be the perfect guy for this era. He plays a style of ball that would seem to be appealing to recruits and he is so genuine personality-wise.
He's the perfect age to have a long run at MU. He had the best resume of any coach they've ever hired. He's already had his P5 experience so I think he knows a place like Marquette is a much better place to be.
Brew
I am getting very old because I do not remember an anti Shaka talk during the hiring process or after the hire. Granted, my excitement level was pretty high and probably assumed everyone was equally excited.
Quote from: Goose on February 13, 2023, 12:45:54 AM
Brew
I am getting very old because I do not remember an anti Shaka talk during the hiring process or after the hire. Granted, my excitement level was pretty high and probably assumed everyone was equally excited.
Maybe not anti-Shaka talk, but there was a lot of feelings about why we would fire Wojo just to hire a guy who hasn't won a tourney game in the same amount of time.
I think there were some legitimate concerns about his time at Texas. I think it's obvious he is the right guy for the job.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 13, 2023, 07:39:49 AM
Maybe not anti-Shaka talk, but there was a lot of feelings about why we would fire Wojo just to hire a guy who hasn't won a tourney game in the same amount of time.
I think there were some legitimate concerns about his time at Texas. I think it's obvious he is the right guy for the job.
That's exactly where I was. I had an immediate reaction after that ridiculous NCAA tournament loss to Abilene Christian -- why would we hire a guy whose record at Texas (including zero NCAAT wins) almost mirrored Wojo's record at Marquette, not to mention a guy who already had turned us down once?
But the second MU actually hired Shaka, I was all in on him. One, because it quickly became apparent that it was a great fit, and two because it's exhausting being a pessimist.
I like to think that if we make a run in March it will bring the remaining Shaka doubters on board, but it's probably naive to think that way. Some Scoopers hate admitting they were wrong, even when they are proven wrong repeatedly, and some are only happy when they have something to be unhappy about.
Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2023, 07:50:53 AM
That's exactly where I was. I had an immediate reaction after that ridiculous NCAA tournament loss to Abilene Christian -- why would we hire a guy whose record at Texas (including zero NCAAT wins) almost mirrored Wojo's record at Marquette, not to mention a guy who already had turned us down once?
But the second MU actually hired Shaka, I was all in on him. One, because it quickly became apparent that it was a great fit, and two because it's exhausting being a pessimist.
I like to think that if we make a run in March it will bring the remaining Shaka doubters on board, but it's probably naive to think that way. Some Scoopers hate admitting they were wrong, even when they are proven wrong repeatedly, and some are only happy when they have something to be unhappy about.
I believe some ball knowers wanted Porter Moser over Shaka
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 13, 2023, 08:01:26 AM
I believe some ball knowers wanted Porter Moser over Shaka
Quite a few did. Like you, I favored Gates. I was never in the Moser camp because he had too many years in which his teams were really, really, really bad ... but if Moser had been hired, I'd have supported him, just as I've supported all our coaches.
I favored Gates over Moser until Shaka became an option. Then I signed up to be hurt again like 2014 and couldn't have been happier when we got our guy. But I understand why in the moment others may have favored different candidates.
What I don't understand is anyone two years later still thinking Moser, who walked into a better situation and isn't winning, is still the right pick over Smart, who's on the verge of a second NCAA bid, could win the Big East & BECOY, and is at worst a top-5 national COY candidate.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 13, 2023, 08:20:37 AM
I favored Gates over Moser until Shaka became an option. Then I signed up to be hurt again like 2014 and couldn't have been happier when we got our guy. But I understand why in the moment others may have favored different candidates.
What I don't understand is anyone two years later still thinking Moser, who walked into a better situation and isn't winning, is still the right pick over Smart, who's on the verge of a second NCAA bid, could win the Big East & BECOY, and is at worst a top-5 national COY candidate.
Remember that one of these posters is Nolongerwarriors, who is either simply a troll and/or is hung up on the BLM thing.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 13, 2023, 08:26:18 AM
Remember that one of these posters is Nolongerwarriors, who is either simply a troll and/or is hung up on the BLM thing.
It's actual Marquette fans, like bilsu, that baffle me in this regard.
Why are we debating/discussing this issue again?
Coach Shaka is our head coach. Our team has been in the NCAA tournament (assuming we're in this year) ever since he became our coach.
We're on an upward trajectory and competing for the Big East title in a year where we were projected to be in ninth place.
Here's the reality: We have a great coach who has shown a capability to do things our prior coach could not. Is he the greatest Marquette hire ever? When he surpasses Al McGuire, I'll agree to that! Until then, enjoy the ride and forget about anyone else!
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 13, 2023, 08:37:09 AM
Why are we debating/discussing this issue again?
Coach Shaka is our head coach. Our team has been in the NCAA tournament (assuming we're in this year) ever since he became our coach.
We're on an upward trajectory and competing for the Big East title in a year where we were projected to be in ninth place.
Here's the reality: We have a great coach who has shown a capability to do things our prior coach could not. Is he the greatest Marquette hire ever? When he surpasses Al McGuire, I'll agree to that! Until then, enjoy the ride and forget about anyone else!
agreed, Brother Dgies. In fact, I'm embarrassed we're celebrating a 1/2 game first place lead on February 13. I know we've had our share of below expectations seasons, but had MU fallen that low? 5 big games ahead.
I love looking over to the left side of MU Scoop and seeing our squad on top of the league standings .
In addition the only team in the league with 20 wins so far.
What an awesome place to be .
F ' Em🤓
Quote from: Herman Cain on February 13, 2023, 09:12:04 AM
I love looking over to the left side of MU Scoop and seeing our squad on top of the league standings .
In addition the only team in the league with 20 wins so far.
What an awesome place to be .
F ' Em🤓
How dare you celebrate this. You should be embarrassed!
- some scoopers apparently
Quote from: TwoWords on February 12, 2023, 01:56:41 PM
My list was:
1). Dwyane Wade
2). Shaka
3). Moser
4). (Yikes)
Never hire a D Wade. He is an MU legend and once you sign him, you can't fire him without alienating him and/or half the fan base. Look at Ewing at Georgetown.
Get someone with coaching experience and enough distance from the program that you can fire him if you need to.
Quote from: Viper on February 13, 2023, 09:01:00 AM
agreed, Brother Dgies. In fact, I'm embarrassed we're celebrating a 1/2 game first place lead on February 13. I know we've had our share of below expectations seasons, but had MU fallen that low? 5 big games ahead.
Who is "celebrating"?
I'm happy about the direction of the program under Shaka, and I've enjoyed watching these hard-working athletes play at a high level and in an entertaining, effective way. I'm glad the program is getting some deserved national attention and glad that, on Feb. 13, the talk is about how high our seed will be rather than us being on the bubble.
But we're all well aware the season isn't over. Even if we win the Big East title, I won't really "celebrate" until we make some noise in the NCAA tournament.
I'm an enjoy-the-journey kind of guy, and I don't think it's the least bit "embarrassing" that I enjoy each victory, each step in what we all hope will be Marquette's return to national prominence. I thoroughly enjoy every moonshot 3 by Kam, every incredible pass by Kolek, every outstanding play by Oso, etc. If you can't be happy about the way things are going -- if you're "embarrassed" that your fellow fans like the direction Shaka is taking this program and that we enjoy watching this team play -- that's on you.
Quote from: Coleman on February 13, 2023, 09:14:02 AM
Never hire a D Wade. He is an MU legend and once you sign him, you can't fire him without alienating him and/or half the fan base. Look at Ewing at Georgetown.
Get someone with coaching experience and enough distance from the program that you can fire him if you need to.
Ok outside Ewing, and Mullin, and Clyde Drexler name one time that's gone wrong
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2023, 09:23:53 AM
Ok outside Ewing, and Mullin, and Clyde Drexler name one time that's gone wrong
Jerry Stackhouse and Juwan Howard are a couple more.
Sometimes it works out. But I hate that it boxes the program in and makes it really difficult to fire a guy who is a legend. Get someone with no prior playing connection to the program (a current Assistant Coach is OK). You have to be able to end it quickly if things go south.
Quote from: Coleman on February 13, 2023, 09:30:57 AM
Jerry Stackhouse and Juwan Howard are a couple more.
Sometimes it works out. But I hate that it boxes the program in and makes it really difficult to fire a guy who is a legend. Get someone with no prior playing connection to the program (a current Assistant Coach is OK). You have to be able to end it quickly if things go south.
Ok i was just being facetious before but it seems ludicrous to include Howard on there. Guys been there for four years and has a B1G championship w/ elite 8, and sweet 16. This year he's not been good but to throw him in with the others seems odd.
Quote from: Coleman on February 13, 2023, 09:14:02 AM
Never hire a D Wade. He is an MU legend and once you sign him, you can't fire him without alienating him and/or half the fan base. Look at Ewing at Georgetown.
Get someone with coaching experience and enough distance from the program that you can fire him if you need to.
I think it is a two-edge sword. Coach retention due to program loyalty versus easy termination if necessary.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2023, 09:34:08 AM
Ok i was just being facetious before but it seems ludicrous to include Howard on there. Guys been there for four years and has a B1G championship w/ elite 8, and sweet 16. This year he's not been good but to throw him in with the others seems odd.
Fair. You're right. He doesn't belong in that group.
Quote from: Coleman on February 13, 2023, 09:51:06 AM
Fair. You're right. He doesn't belong in that group.
He's had legit NBA interest, too.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2023, 09:34:08 AM
Ok i was just being facetious before but it seems ludicrous to include Howard on there. Guys been there for four years and has a B1G championship w/ elite 8, and sweet 16. This year he's not been good but to throw him in with the others seems odd.
I'm skeptical on Howard. He has done well with a lot of players left over from Beilein. They were fine year one, made a nice run mostly with Beilein guys leading the way to an Elite 8, but that S16 masked a very shaky season. This year with his own guys leading the way they are just trying to get on the bubble. They have significantly underperformed expectations each of the past two years, coinciding with the roster really being his.
Quote from: Coleman on February 13, 2023, 09:14:02 AM
Never hire a D Wade. He is an MU legend and once you sign him, you can't fire him without alienating him and/or half the fan base. Look at Ewing at Georgetown.
Get someone with coaching experience and enough distance from the program that you can fire him if you need to.
I'm often surprised by the number of people who seem to believe elite basketball skills equate to elite coaching skills. They are
very different skill sets. There are some cases where one person has both skill sets -- but I think that is the exception and not the rule. By far. I think a lot of truly elite athletes have a hard time working with people who can't perform at that level.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 13, 2023, 10:04:50 AM
I'm skeptical on Howard. He has done well with a lot of players left over from Beilein. They were fine year one, made a nice run mostly with Beilein guys leading the way to an Elite 8, but that S16 masked a very shaky season. This year with his own guys leading the way they are just trying to get on the bubble. They have significantly underperformed expectations each of the past two years, coinciding with the roster really being his.
For sure, but as of this point in time it's definitely not fair to say he's on that list.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 13, 2023, 10:04:50 AM
I'm skeptical on Howard. He has done well with a lot of players left over from Beilein. They were fine year one, made a nice run mostly with Beilein guys leading the way to an Elite 8, but that S16 masked a very shaky season. This year with his own guys leading the way they are just trying to get on the bubble. They have significantly underperformed expectations each of the past two years, coinciding with the roster really being his.
Llewlyn going down in December has hurt the team a lot. I agree it's not his best season though and I am not sure if his guys are going to cut it in the long run.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 13, 2023, 10:04:50 AM
I'm skeptical on Howard. He has done well with a lot of players left over from Beilein. They were fine year one, made a nice run mostly with Beilein guys leading the way to an Elite 8, but that S16 masked a very shaky season. This year with his own guys leading the way they are just trying to get on the bubble. They have significantly underperformed expectations each of the past two years, coinciding with the roster really being his.
Roster construction the last two years has been bad and that's on him
here's the thing about hoping shaka is in this(MU) for the long haul- wasn't there some off the record comments by TC essentially stating that he wishes he would have stayed at marquette or how good he had it there? well, the grass is only greener where it get's the water
shaka appears to have the demeanor to get along with most everyone, yet remain focused on his goals. there doesn't seem to be much about shaka that could make any university powers that be nervous.
shaka's character is solid. after observing him for the past year+ one should get a decent feel for what makes a him tick. he's a what you see is what you get kind of guy. you can tell by how the people around him respond to him. has anyone seen him really lose it...i mean lose it like kevin o'neil lose it?? there were a few times when i wished he would have, but he's a man who's been through some real growing pains over his career already. he's walked through the threshold.
what is that you may ask? it's growth through adversity. it's humility during down times. it's a constant self assessment to always do better or correct what failed. it's a consistency in delivery until either something didn't work within ones assessment or a better alternative is realized. either way, they are always accomplished within his sphere of what is right and good; shaka sees all this selflessly. marquette, i hope, realizes we got a *once in a generation nugget who will remain loyal to us unless the power(s) that be cannot see eye to eye with him...the problem there will be solely in the hands of that idiot who fails to see what we have
* side note-al mcguire was also a once in a generation nugget, but his story remains a GREAT separate chapter most of us are all too familiar with. let's allow shaka to continue to write his own chapter
Great post! You covered a lot of ground.
I see Shaka and Marquette as the perfect marriage of a coach and a school.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 13, 2023, 09:13:06 AM
How dare you celebrate this. You should be embarrassed!
- some scoopers apparently
nickel, that wasn't worth a dime🤣
Shaka Smart is also only 45. He probably has no idea what his future holds.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 13, 2023, 12:31:30 PM
Shaka Smart is also only 45. He probably has no idea what his future holds.
Multiple NC titles at MU, duh!
Kolek 'em.
Shaka is a breath of fresh air - focused, determined, he has his way of do8ng things that he believes in and he has brought excitement back and national attention back to Marquette basketball.
Yes, Crean said something like, he never had the kind of administration support anywhere else like he had at Marquette - and he said, you think it will be same elsewhere but it wasn't.
So, hopefully Shaka, who has been to VCU and has seen the side of teams in the Texas bracket, sees Marquette as a perfect fit - a basketball school in a basketball conference, with tremendous admin support, facilities, etc. and stays a long long time. Why not? It could happen. Tons of schools will be after him without doubt.
Goo Marquette!
Not a word in the Chicago Trib.
F**k 'em
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 26, 2023, 09:19:47 AM
Not a word in the Chicago Trib.
F**k 'em
Maybe they took a cue from the Washington Post and decided covering a poorly performing home team simply is not worth the time.
F*ck 'Em!
Darned right Muggsy
God forbid ESPN write about it at all on their website.
Big East is dead to them
Quote from: marqfan22 on February 28, 2023, 09:22:55 PM
God forbid ESPN write about it at all on their website.
Big East is dead to them
Meh.
F**k 'em.