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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BLWarrior91 on January 09, 2023, 11:53:33 AM

Title: BEast!
Post by: BLWarrior91 on January 09, 2023, 11:53:33 AM
With MU cracking the AP Tp 25, the Big East has four ranked teams.  The vastly overrated Big 10, has two.  Yet this was supposedly a "down year" for the Big East. 
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on January 09, 2023, 12:01:41 PM
Can confirm, 4 ranked teams this week in a supposedly down year for the BE. To think, if Jose Perez is still on this team. WATCH OUT! MUBB would be crazy good.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: The Sultan on January 09, 2023, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: BobWildLoyalist on January 09, 2023, 12:01:41 PM
To think, if Jose Perez is still on this team. WATCH OUT! MUBB would be crazy good.

I can't even fathom Jose Perez on this team.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: Jockey on January 09, 2023, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 09, 2023, 11:53:33 AM
With MU cracking the AP Tp 25, the Big East has four ranked teams.  The vastly overrated Big 10, has two.  Yet this was supposedly a "down year" for the Big East.

Big East had a slow start that was very predictable. Lotsa young players throughout the league that would need a little time. Especially on the top 6 teams.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 09, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 09, 2023, 11:53:33 AM
With MU cracking the AP Tp 25, the Big East has four ranked teams.  The vastly overrated Big 10, has two.  Yet this was supposedly a "down year" for the Big East.

To be fair, it was definitely a down non-con season for the Big east.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: MUfan12 on January 09, 2023, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 09, 2023, 12:38:14 PM
I can't even fathom Jose Perez on this team.

I can. He'd be the one in the backcourt trying to catch his breath.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: tower912 on January 09, 2023, 12:48:58 PM
Poor guy caught COVID and still had to be the first big (6'5) off the bench due to injuries.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: The Sultan on January 09, 2023, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 09, 2023, 12:48:58 PM
Poor guy caught COVID and still had to be the first big (6'5) off the bench due to injuries.

I know. But I don't think there was anything about his game that Shaka would be interested in. It's not like he made any effort to keep him right?
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: tower912 on January 09, 2023, 12:52:57 PM
I agree that he would not fit Shaka's style.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: MU82 on January 09, 2023, 12:58:05 PM
I like to think our fellow Scooper was being non-tealy on purpose.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on January 09, 2023, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 09, 2023, 12:58:05 PM
I like to think our fellow Scooper was being non-tealy on purpose.
Can confirm  :P
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 09, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
It's still a down year for the Big East. There are 4 good teams at the top but but the bottom 5 are bad and the bottom 2 are extremely bad. The middle 2 are probably good but have had too many injuries. This is letting the top teams rack up wins which means better rankings.

Here's our record vs. other high majors
B12: 7-8
B10: 3-9
SEC: 4-4
ACC: 5-4
P12: 2-3

We're also 1-5 against the WCC
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: ChuckyChip on January 09, 2023, 02:28:59 PM
Current Kenpom conference ratings:

1. Big 12
2. Big Ten
3. Southeastern
4. Big East
5. Pac 12
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: Jockey on January 09, 2023, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on January 09, 2023, 02:13:15 PM
It's still a down year for the Big East. There are 4 good teams at the top but but the bottom 5 are bad and the bottom 2 are extremely bad. The middle 2 are probably good but have had too many injuries. This is letting the top teams rack up wins which means better rankings.

Here's our record vs. other high majors
B12: 7-8
B10: 3-9
SEC: 4-4
ACC: 5-4
P12: 2-3

We're also 1-5 against the WCC

This goes back to my earlier comment about young players in the BE needing to get their footing. Those were all early season games.

We'll see what happens come tourney time.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 09, 2023, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: Jockey on January 09, 2023, 03:57:37 PM
This goes back to my earlier comment about young players in the BE needing to get their footing. Those were all early season games.

We'll see what happens come tourney time.

I get that. But that's what down seasons are, bad non-conference seasons. You build your conference's cache in the non-conference and then you divide that cache in conference season.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: MU82 on January 09, 2023, 05:28:39 PM
Yep. Just a year ago, didn't the league have an outstanding non-con season, which led to lots of national praise?
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: brewcity77 on January 09, 2023, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 09, 2023, 05:28:39 PM
Yep. Just a year ago, didn't the league have an outstanding non-con season, which led to lots of national praise?

Yes, and that's why we got 6 single-digit seeds. And had Xavier not shat the bed, going 2-8 from February 5th on (with 4 losses to non-tourney teams) it would've been 7 bids. Even if Xavier goes say 4-6 in that stretch they would've certainly earned a bid.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: #UnleashSean on January 09, 2023, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 09, 2023, 11:53:33 AM
With MU cracking the AP Tp 25, the Big East has four ranked teams.  The vastly overrated Big 10, has two.  Yet this was supposedly a "down year" for the Big East.

And one of those ranked teams isn't even going to the dance if the season finished today according to NET and kenpom.
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: Carl on January 09, 2023, 10:00:35 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 09, 2023, 08:38:28 PM
And one of those ranked teams isn't even going to the dance if the season finished today according to NET and kenpom.

Providence is the 4th highest ranked BE team on Kenpom at #30. Not sure what you're talking about
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 09, 2023, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Carl on January 09, 2023, 10:00:35 PM
Providence is the 4th highest ranked BE team on Kenpom at #30. Not sure what you're talking about

I think he's talking about Wisconsin
Title: Re: BEast!
Post by: BLWarrior91 on January 09, 2023, 11:08:18 PM
Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 09, 2023, 08:38:28 PM
And one of those ranked teams isn't even going to the dance if the season finished today according to NET and kenpom.

Bucky?
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