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Title: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: NotAnAlum on December 13, 2022, 10:50:21 AM
Creighton lost to AZ state making it 5 in a row.  Kind of thought it would be better for MU's chances if they had won.  Creighton is a good team with a lot of tradition and they are going to be desperate for a win this Friday.  That said their confidence could be pretty low and if we get off to a good start their desperation could lead to playing too tight and pressing.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU82 on December 13, 2022, 10:51:35 AM
Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 13, 2022, 10:55:32 AM
Its bad in the sense that a supposed Top BE team dropped 4 straight non con games to further hurt the conference and potential wins you get against them.

Does not matter as far as our game with them Friday.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 10:55:57 AM
Kick them while they’re down.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Jay Bee on December 13, 2022, 10:58:36 AM
Creighton lost to AZ state making it 4 in a row.  Kind of thought it would be better for MU's chances if they had won.  Creighton is a good team with a lot of tradition and they are going to be desperate for a win this Friday.  That said their confidence could be pretty low and if we get off to a good start their desperation could lead to playing too tight and pressing.  Thoughts?

If by 4 you mean 5
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 13, 2022, 10:59:13 AM
More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!

Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 13, 2022, 11:08:15 AM
More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!

If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: lawdog77 on December 13, 2022, 11:09:22 AM
If by 4 you mean 5
We need to kick their butts Thursday
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 13, 2022, 11:15:01 AM
We need to kick their butts Thursday

Good idea, that should make the game easier on Friday :)
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 13, 2022, 11:15:46 AM
If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

I agree that they are talented enough to be a 6 or 7 seed, I'm just not sold on the results being that high.  Regardless of how the conference is in terms of quality, winning 12 of 20 games is still going to be difficult.  I wouldn't be any more shocked to see them go 8-12 as I would 12-8.

Their talent tells me they can be better than 10-10, but results don't always follow talent.  Starting 0-3 in league play like last year just won't cut it.  Gotta get out of the gates hot and we have a tough schedule to open up.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 13, 2022, 11:16:12 AM
We need to kick their butts Thursday

Would that be a Flagrant 2?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2022, 11:21:36 AM
As long as we can sore more points than them......
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: cheebs09 on December 13, 2022, 11:25:15 AM
Based on our losing streaks with Wojo, I would say it’s not necessarily easy to break them.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: jfp61 on December 13, 2022, 11:27:00 AM
Creighton lost to AZ state making it 4 in a row.  Kind of thought it would be better for MU's chances if they had won.  Creighton is a good team with a lot of tradition and they are going to be desperate for a win this Friday.  That said their confidence could be pretty low and if we get off to a good start their desperation could lead to playing too tight and pressing.  Thoughts?

Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 13, 2022, 11:27:15 AM
If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

Also look at it this way.

To go 13-7, Marquette would have to sweep 3 teams in league play...that is also assuming they beat the other 7 teams at least once (including UConn). That is a really tall task.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: mubb3434 on December 13, 2022, 11:27:31 AM
If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

11-9 and 1 BET win will be a tournament team with a win vs. Baylor and no bad non-conf losses. If you think the Big East is bad, take a look at the ACC or Pac 12.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: tower912 on December 13, 2022, 11:27:53 AM
Good idea, that should make the game easier on Friday :)
That is how MU can go 6-0 in the next 5 games.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 13, 2022, 11:34:14 AM
They've been struggling. The team goal is to impose the tempo/pressure early. If the team can do that to Creighton it might take them out of the game early.

Hopefully the team can do it and have another sort of Baylor game.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: lawdog77 on December 13, 2022, 11:39:15 AM
Good idea, that should make the game easier on Friday :)
I think I am trying too hard to keep the joke from the Notre Dame game running.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 13, 2022, 11:58:51 AM
I think I am trying too hard to keep the joke from the Notre Dame game running.

Bummer.  I thought it might be a joke, but apparently I'm not keeping up with posts enough.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: lawdog77 on December 13, 2022, 12:06:08 PM
Bummer.  I thought it might be a joke, but apparently I'm not keeping up with posts enough.
I think we need to dock your pay.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 13, 2022, 12:19:00 PM
11-9 and 1 BET win will be a tournament team with a win vs. Baylor and no bad non-conf losses. If you think the Big East is bad, take a look at the ACC or Pac 12.

But depending on how we win or lose those 22 games (conf + BET),  we might be a 10-11 seed.  Sure we could blow out the 11 wins, and barely lose the 9 losses then we will be a lock.  But it tends to equal out over the course of the season.

This team is better than that.  I really think a 6-7 seed is where we should be.  13-7.  Let's do this.

Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Jay Bee on December 13, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.

Are we certain there best player will be playing in they’re next game after being out to or know?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 12:51:24 PM
By and large your losses (who you lost to and number of losses) have mattered far less than big wins. The Baylor win will go a long way. Would like to beat UCONN at least once. Otherwise our opportunities are teams with a ceiling of roughly a 5 seed like Xavier or Creighton if they were to turn it around.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: BM1090 on December 13, 2022, 12:53:09 PM
Also look at it this way.

To go 13-7, Marquette would have to sweep 3 teams in league play...that is also assuming they beat the other 7 teams at least once (including UConn). That is a really tall task.

I prefer to look at it as going 8-2 at home and 5-5 on the road. I think we go 8-2 at home. We did last year and the Big East is worse.

Can we get five road wins? I think so. Kenpom has us favored in 14 of our 20 league matchups. T Rank is even kinder, favoring us in 16 of 20 games.

13-7 is attainable. Based on what we know right now, I’d be somewhat disappointed if we don’t get to 12-8 or better.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 13, 2022, 01:29:50 PM
Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.

I forgot the committee has the "this win looked worse on the boards" metric.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 13, 2022, 02:20:05 PM
Are we certain there best player will be playing in they’re next game after being out to or know?

their vs. they're
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 13, 2022, 02:20:43 PM
More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!
Nat King COLE
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoFastAndWin on December 13, 2022, 04:00:46 PM
We’re going to get Creighton’s best shot, that much is almost certain.

And that’s what we need to continue to get better.

I hope we catch every Big East team at their best.

Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 04:09:46 PM
We’re going to get Creighton’s best shot, that much is almost certain.

And that’s what we need to continue to get better.

I hope we catch every Big East team at their best.

Why would we get anything less than anyone’s best?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoFastAndWin on December 13, 2022, 05:26:04 PM
Why would we get anything less than anyone’s best?

So you’re saying college kids aren’t subject to trends and things like urgency?

Kids never come out uninspired after a big win or like a fire has been lit under them after a losing streak?

I get that you have to play devil’s advocate; after all, this is Scoop. However, ask a Vegas line maker if everything is analytics and it all happens in a vacuum.

Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 05:56:59 PM
So you’re saying college kids aren’t subject to trends and things like urgency?

Kids never come out uninspired after a big win or like a fire has been lit under them after a losing streak?

I get that you have to play devil’s advocate; after all, this is Scoop. However, ask a Vegas line maker if everything is analytics and it all happens in a vacuum.

I’m not sure what “college kids aren’t subject to trends” even means.

But yes, I think Vegas is actually making their lines based on the results of a team’s play and not some imagined desperation a team will feel. Otherwise Georgetown would be huge favorites in every Big East game until they win one. I mean, they’ve lost like 21 straight Big East games. With that amount of desperation how have they not blown the doors off of their next opponent every game?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoFastAndWin on December 13, 2022, 06:07:43 PM
I’m not sure what “college kids aren’t subject to trends” even means.

But yes, I think Vegas is actually making their lines based on the results of a team’s play and not some imagined desperation a team will feel. Otherwise Georgetown would be huge favorites in every Big East game until they win one. I mean, they’ve lost like 21 straight Big East games. With that amount of desperation how have they not blown the doors off of their next opponent every game?

Oy vey this place is insufferable.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Goose on December 13, 2022, 06:49:34 PM
GoFast

Welcome back, not much changes
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: chicagowarrior on December 13, 2022, 06:55:06 PM
Win at home
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 13, 2022, 07:17:37 PM
For every "they won because they lost x games in a row and were desperate for a win" there seems to be an equal numbers of "they lost because they lost x games in  a row and are completely lost right now". I think college athletes can be influenced by recent performances but I don't think there's anyway to accurately predict if the recent performance is going to have a positive, negative, or neutral impact.

What I will say is that Creighton's defense doesn't work without Kalkbrenner. If he's out or significantly limited, Marquette should win by a significant amount. If he's back, this will be a tough matchup because he is a Kolek killer.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU82 on December 13, 2022, 09:38:30 PM
It's the conference opener for both teams. If a coach can't get his players psyched up for that game no matter how many in a row they've won or lost, he should be fired.

Creighton was gonna be pumped for this game no matter what. As Marquette would have been.

We need to play well to win because of the talent Creighton puts on the floor, not because Creighton is on a 4-game 5-game losing streak.

Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Jay Bee on December 13, 2022, 09:51:18 PM
It's the conference opener for both teams. If a coach can't get his players psyched up for that game no matter how many in a row they've won or lost, he should be fired.

Creighton was gonna be pumped for this game no matter what. As Marquette would have been.

We need to play well to win because of the talent Creighton puts on the floor, not because Creighton is on a 4-game losing streak.

4 is the new 5
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: NotAnAlum on December 13, 2022, 09:57:42 PM
Are we certain there best player will be playing in they’re next game after being out to or know?
Their message board seems pretty sure it's mono and it might be mid Jan before he can play.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 10:13:27 PM
Can you have a 5 game losing streak without having a 4 game losing streak?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Jay Bee on December 13, 2022, 10:14:25 PM
Jop should’ve been given a flagrant 3 tbh
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: real chili 83 on December 13, 2022, 11:37:07 PM
I still think we need to score more points.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Newsdreams on December 14, 2022, 07:11:00 AM
I still think we need to score more points.
Why?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: swoopem on December 14, 2022, 07:14:28 AM
Their message board seems pretty sure it's mono and it might be mid Jan before he can play.

I’m no doctor but isn’t mono contagious? He’s been on the bench the last few games. I’d think if it were mono they’d have him at home resting
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU82 on December 14, 2022, 08:08:25 AM
4 is the new 5
Fixed. Management regrets the error.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 14, 2022, 08:47:34 AM
I’m no doctor but isn’t mono contagious? He’s been on the bench the last few games. I’d think if it were mono they’d have him at home resting

It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: PJDunn on December 14, 2022, 08:54:43 AM
Those are distinct possibilities on the plantation. especially expectoration.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Daniel on December 14, 2022, 09:18:05 AM
It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.

Yes usually not airborne, but I would not want to be near him if he sneezes.   That could spread it through droplets.  I was surprised he was with the team.   Rest is the key to getting over it and I think it takes a while.   
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 14, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.

Has anyone watched Blue Mountain State when the whole team gets Cyphalis? "What, are they all banging each other?" "Happened before in 95..."
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 14, 2022, 10:44:43 AM
Has anyone watched Blue Mountain State when the whole team gets Cyphalis? "What, are they all banging each other?" "Happened before in 95..."

I miss Blue Mountain State
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: PointWarrior on December 14, 2022, 10:59:34 AM
but what if it's a "trap" game, playing against a team you already beat 2 times, on their Senior night, but your team may have  "tired legs" despite all being under 22, the freshman are hitting their second wall, in an arena with a poor shooting background, and on national TV.


Why would we get anything less than anyone’s best?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 14, 2022, 11:04:47 AM
but what if it's "trap" game, playing against a team you already beat 2 times, on their Senior night, but your team may have  "tired legs" despite all being under 22, the freshman are hitting their second wall, in an arenas with a poor shooting background, and on national TV.

And wearing the championship blue or the grey jerseys.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Dickthedribbler on December 14, 2022, 12:57:43 PM
but what if it's a "trap" game, playing against a team you already beat 2 times, on their Senior night, but your team may have  "tired legs" despite all being under 22, the freshman are hitting their second wall, in an arena with a poor shooting background, and on national TV.

So, how is everything on the other Board???
( "tired legs" was always my favorite, BTW).
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Scoop Snoop on December 14, 2022, 02:19:45 PM
Yes usually not airborne, but I would not want to be near him if he sneezes.   That could spread it through droplets.  I was surprised he was with the team.   Rest is the key to getting over it and I think it takes a while.

I contracted it a few months ago and yes, it can take a while to overcome. It is viral -"Barr Epstein virus" -and took me out at my knees. It can come back once in a while to knock you down, so an extended period of getting plenty of rest is usually needed.

 With all of the above, a disclaimer: I have no medical training. This is just my personal take and a summary of what I have read.

Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: brewcity77 on December 14, 2022, 05:46:55 PM
Why?

Because if we don't score any more points this year, we won't win any more games.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Newsdreams on December 14, 2022, 07:22:15 PM
Because if we don't score any more points this year, we won't win any more games.
Good point
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Dickthedribbler on December 14, 2022, 09:45:19 PM
Creighton has to play on Christmas afternoon ( hosting DePaul ).

As a season ticketholder, I kind of  hope the Big East schedulers ( or the TV Network) never makes us do that. Just a personal opinion.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 15, 2022, 02:03:42 PM
-3.5 current line
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 15, 2022, 02:05:25 PM
Definitely not great.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 15, 2022, 06:55:52 PM
our style of play is gonna whup them up good.  give em the 3.5 plus cuz we gonna win by 10-12 and that's with the walk-ons getting to work up a little sweat.  shaka got the boys frothing at the mouth
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: lessthannick11 on December 15, 2022, 07:06:01 PM
How are ticket sales looking tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 15, 2022, 07:14:47 PM
How are ticket sales looking tomorrow night?

Can't be too great, tickets for $10 available on StubHub.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MuggsyB on December 16, 2022, 06:59:47 AM
Do we know if Kalky is playing? 
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: zcg2013 on December 16, 2022, 08:48:44 AM
Was listening to a Big East podcast and the guy who is from Creighton said Kalk has been sick since Maui and likely out until next week.

That being said, I assume he tries to play to help break this slump.

Do we know if Kalky is playing?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: tower912 on December 16, 2022, 09:05:37 AM
If he plays, his stamina isn't going to be there.   I doubt he can play 30 productive. minutes.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MuggsyB on December 16, 2022, 09:42:02 AM
We will be underdogs in one home game the rest of the season.  I fully expect us to be in attack mode from here on out and ready to roll for the entire BEast schedule. 
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 09:47:13 AM
Just saw on Twitter that we have only won 1 of our last 8 against Creighton?  Is that true?

I thought we had a huge winning streak against them prior to the 3 losses last year.  I guess the COVID season is easy to forget.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Jay Bee on December 16, 2022, 10:14:44 AM
Just saw on Twitter that we have only won 1 of our last 8 against Creighton?  Is that true?

I thought we had a huge winning streak against them prior to the 3 losses last year.  I guess the COVID season is easy to forget.

Since the magical win several years back, they are on a 7-1 roll

#pray
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Daniel on December 16, 2022, 10:17:54 AM
Was listening to a Big East podcast and the guy who is from Creighton said Kalk has been sick since Maui and likely out until next week.

That being said, I assume he tries to play to help break this slump.
Mono knocks the hell out of you.  You want and need to sleep a lot.   And it takes a good month or more depending on circumstances.   You can feel fatigued for weeks after you are over it.    That’s a tough one for an athlete to bounce back quickly from.   And certainly would not be 1OO% if he plays.   
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 16, 2022, 10:32:45 AM
Mono knocks the hell out of you.  You want and need to sleep a lot.   And it takes a good month or more depending on circumstances.   You can feel fatigued for weeks after you are over it.    That’s a tough one for an athlete to bounce back quickly from.   And certainly would not be 1OO% if he plays.

I had Spring Semester my Junior year at Marquette.  What a miserable way to go through a semester. 
Go to class.  Sleep.  Try to study do homework.  Sleep.  Try to study do homework.  Sleep.
Repeat.
1 month knocked out. 
Then 1 month finally with improvement.
Then 1 month with quick to fatigue.

Not much sympathy from professors from what I recall either..
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 16, 2022, 10:38:24 AM
Since the magical win several years back, they are on a 7-1 roll

#pray

9 games to judge
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU82 on December 16, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
We're long overdue. MU big tonight!

We Are Marquette!
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 11:14:27 AM
We're long overdue. MU big tonight!

We Are Marquette!

True!

I hope Kalkbrenner plays.  With Creighton on a 5 game losing streak, nothing good comes from playing them with him out.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Goose on December 16, 2022, 11:17:15 AM
Dr. B pointed out how important the ND was and he was correct. The game tonight is a big opportunity to set the tone for the BE schedule. This is a game they need to win to build mojo for the rest of the season. It is time to get over the hump and stay over the hump. A win tonight would be a nice step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 11:18:53 AM
I'm mostly curious to see OMax matchup tonight.  Is it Kaluma or Scheierman?  Kaluma may be tougher for Stevie or Kam to guard, but Scheierman has the ability to take control of a game quicker with his 3's if he's hitting (which I expect).

I like Kam getting a shot at Scheierman with Stevie on Nembhard and OMax on Kaluma.

Excited for this one!  Depth is heavily in our favor.  Wear 'em out!
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 16, 2022, 11:19:12 AM
I hope Kalkbrenner plays.  With Creighton on a 5 game losing streak, nothing good comes from playing them with him out.

What about an easier win? Cause that's a good that would come from playing them without Kalkbrenner.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Goose on December 16, 2022, 11:19:59 AM
I don't care who plays for Creighton, just get the win!
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 11:21:05 AM
What about an easier win? Cause that's a good that would come from playing them without Kalkbrenner.

Maybe. If he was fully healthy and conditioned I'd agree, but idk right now.  Probably still true but who knows...
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 16, 2022, 11:22:11 AM
I'm mostly curious to see OMax matchup tonight.  Is it Kaluma or Scheierman?  Kaluma may be tougher for Stevie or Kam to guard, but Scheierman has the ability to take control of a game quicker with his 3's if he's hitting (which I expect).

I like Kam getting a shot at Scheierman with Stevie on Nembhard and OMax on Kaluma.

Excited for this one!  Depth us heavily in our favor.  Wear 'em out!

He'll be matched up with Kaluma when Kaluma and King are in. He'll be matched up on BS when King is out and Kaluma is playing the 5. Matching up only matters so much when you switch as often as our defense does.

The nice thing if Kalky is out is that Kaluma at the 5 would create mismatches for most teams. Oso is fully capable of guarding Kaluma.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2022, 11:22:52 AM
Just saw on Twitter that we have only won 1 of our last 8 against Creighton?  Is that true?

I thought we had a huge winning streak against them prior to the 3 losses last year.  I guess the COVID season is easy to forget.

Sadly, there isn’t a way to verify that
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: tower912 on December 16, 2022, 11:24:27 AM
I missed you.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: JakeBarnes on December 16, 2022, 11:25:00 AM
What about an easier win? Cause that's a good that would come from playing them without Kalkbrenner.

And also less risk of someone on our team contracting mono. Which I'd prefer even more.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: wadesworld on December 16, 2022, 11:25:35 AM
True!

I hope Kalkbrenner plays.  With Creighton on a 5 game losing streak, nothing good comes from playing them with him out.

Nobody will care or remember if Kalkbrenner plays tonight come March.  I wouldn't hope he gets hurt to miss our game, but if he's going to be out I'm not going to complain about it.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on December 16, 2022, 11:29:40 AM
I missed you.
I agree with this analysis
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 16, 2022, 11:31:16 AM
True!

I hope Kalkbrenner plays.  With Creighton on a 5 game losing streak, nothing good comes from playing them with him out.

What are you talking about.

A good that comes from it is a better chance to win. Which is what we need.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2022, 11:38:26 AM
What are you talking about.

A good that comes from it is a better chance to win. Which is what we need.

The long game is to be played, imo.  Lose this game to give Creighton a quality road win without Kalk and also a false sense of security when Marquette goes to Omaha and we spring the surprise on them.  Boom.  Qualitier win
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Tha Hound on December 16, 2022, 11:48:27 AM
I hope Kalk doesn’t play so we have a better chance of winning. Because I’m a fan of Marquette. And I want Marquette to win games and ultimately make the tournament and win some games there
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 12:00:58 PM
I hope Kalk doesn’t play so we have a better chance of winning. Because I’m a fan of Marquette. And I want Marquette to win games and ultimately make the tournament and win some games there

Oso had his best game of the year last year in Milwaukee against Creighton.  He will be an even bigger problem for Kalkbrenner this year as a distributor, especially if Kam, Kolek, Joplin etc. are knocking down 3's.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: muwarrior69 on December 16, 2022, 12:06:24 PM
I hope Kalk doesn’t play so we have a better chance of winning. Because I’m a fan of Marquette. And I want Marquette to win games and ultimately make the tournament and win some games there

Well let's go all the way; I hope they forfeit because I want Marquette to win games anyway they can and ultimately make the tournament and win some games there.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Jay Bee on December 16, 2022, 12:16:01 PM
Oso had his best game of the year last year in Milwaukee against Creighton.  He will be an even bigger problem for Kalkbrenner this year as a distributor, especially if Kam, Kolek, Joplin etc. are knocking down 3's.

Oso’s last game Vs Creighton — 14 minutes, zero points, 2 boards, 0 ast/blk/StL, 2 to’s
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: BM1090 on December 16, 2022, 12:17:01 PM
Just saw on Twitter that we have only won 1 of our last 8 against Creighton?  Is that true?

I thought we had a huge winning streak against them prior to the 3 losses last year.  I guess the COVID season is easy to forget.

We’re 1-7 in our last 8, but 7-7 in our last 14.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU82 on December 16, 2022, 12:18:35 PM
Nobody will care or remember if Kalkbrenner plays tonight come March.  I wouldn't hope he gets hurt to miss our game, but if he's going to be out I'm not going to complain about it.

This, obviously.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2022, 12:20:23 PM
On December 16th, 1940, Creighton beat Marquette 57–12.  Within a year, Pearl Harbor was bombed.  Makes you think
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 16, 2022, 12:20:46 PM
Oso’s last game Vs Creighton — 14 minutes, zero points, 2 boards, 0 ast/blk/StL, 2 to’s

yeah, but this is oso 2 point O
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Tha Hound on December 16, 2022, 12:31:27 PM
Oso’s last game Vs Creighton — 14 minutes, zero points, 2 boards, 0 ast/blk/StL, 2 to’s

Such a perfect encapsulation of this place hahaha
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: lawdog77 on December 16, 2022, 12:41:31 PM
And also less risk of someone on our team contracting mono. Which I'd prefer even more.
Good point. Is there a quick test we can force him to take if we seem him near the building.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 12:51:14 PM
We’re 1-7 in our last 8, but 7-7 in our last 14.

Haha! Crazy.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 16, 2022, 12:58:14 PM
I hope Kalk doesn’t play so we have a better chance of winning. Because I’m a fan of Marquette. And I want Marquette to win games and ultimately make the tournament and win some games there
I'm hoping none of their players play. It would be a bold strategy, and I'd like to see how it would work out for them.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 01:58:45 PM
I hope Kalk doesn’t play so we have a better chance of winning. Because I’m a fan of Marquette. And I want Marquette to win games and ultimately make the tournament and win some games there

Street clothes at shootaround
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MU82 on December 16, 2022, 02:01:08 PM
Street clothes at shootaround

Sounds like you've analyzed all the data and are going with Georgia Tech by 3.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 02:09:26 PM
Sounds like you've analyzed all the data and are going with Georgia Tech by 3.

Still obsessing over that?  Interesting to know!
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MuggsyB on December 16, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
I don't care who plays for Creighton, just get the win!

Goose,

We need to punish them in the paint whether Kalky is there or not.  This is a game where the mentality should be score at will and destroy their will.  They can't guard and are streaky from the perimeter.  Win in the paint, win at the FT line, take high percentage shots, value the rock, and usurp G1 on the BEast schedule. 
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Goose on December 16, 2022, 03:14:30 PM
Muggsy

Imo, this is a very big game for the boys. We need to get out of the gate quickly in the BE. I’ll take any win, but expecting a very solid performance.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: BM1090 on December 16, 2022, 03:17:48 PM
I really like our team this year compared to the rest of the conference. We're obviously not going to win every game, but the only games I'd confidently bet against MU are the two vs. UCONN and @ Xavier.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 03:30:31 PM
I really like our team this year compared to the rest of the conference. We're obviously not going to win every game, but the only games I'd confidently bet against MU are the two vs. UCONN and @ Xavier.

What games are you confidently betting for them the rest of the way?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MuggsyB on December 16, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
Muggsy

Imo, this is a very big game for the boys. We need to get out of the gate quickly in the BE. I’ll take any win, but expecting a very solid performance.

Perhaps a few more touches for Mr. Ighodaro this evening?
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Goose on December 16, 2022, 03:42:17 PM
Muggsy

I hope they continue to get to the basket. If they continue to get a ton of open looks they should roll.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: MuggsyB on December 16, 2022, 03:45:55 PM
Muggsy

I hope they continue to get to the basket. If they continue to get a ton of open looks they should roll.

We're on the same page Goose.  Although you're probably a little less anxious about things.  Vitally important to get the W. 
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: DoctorV on December 16, 2022, 05:35:18 PM
We don’t know yet, but assuming Kalkbrenner doesn’t play I really hope Shaka has drawn up much of the same gameplan as in recent games- get into the paint early and often and send Creighton reeling.

I’d especially like to see Oso get to work on the dribble in and around the paint against their freshman big, who is bigger/thicker than Kbrenn but surely much less nimble.
Make that kid wish he didn’t have to guard such a skilled athletic big, and he will get flustered and foul.
Then good luck to them with whoever is behind him in the rotation.

Let’s goooo
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 16, 2022, 06:03:40 PM
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1603893559094034433?t=fx2GyagBGJT6mgujazsHgg&s=19

Fanta just about lost it when Shaka mentioned that when they faced off against a recent McDonalds All American, he told Kam that he's a BurgerKing All American and BurgerKing can be better.  What a quote.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 16, 2022, 09:27:01 PM
COLE
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on December 16, 2022, 09:29:17 PM
Walkons really destroying our NET.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2022, 09:30:19 PM
Walkons really destroying our NET.

Shameful.  This is why free throws matter
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on December 16, 2022, 09:32:15 PM
Shameful.  This is why free throws matter

Should be a NET bonus for scoring 69 points, though.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2022, 09:32:33 PM
Should be a NET bonus for scoring 69 points, though.

It was pretty nice
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 16, 2022, 09:38:58 PM
Should be a NET bonus for scoring 69 points, though.
Excellent point
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Newsdreams on December 16, 2022, 09:42:27 PM
Should be a NET bonus for scoring 69 points, though.
Feels good
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: pbiflyer on December 16, 2022, 10:53:37 PM
I’m going to go with good.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: The Thing on December 17, 2022, 07:18:50 AM
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1603893559094034433?t=fx2GyagBGJT6mgujazsHgg&s=19

Fanta just about lost it when Shaka mentioned that when they faced off against a recent McDonalds All American, he told Kam that he's a BurgerKing All American and BurgerKing can be better.  What a quote.

I’ve never really heard Fanta before. He is really good and seems extremely knowledgeable about Big East basketball. Nice interview with Shaka.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 17, 2022, 05:30:46 PM
He has been FANTAstic for BE the last couple few years.  Has worked his ass off for 5+ years delivering content and promoting his brand.  Love his enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: pbiflyer on December 17, 2022, 06:37:16 PM
Love 5he post game presser  look.  ;D
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Miss Katie’s on December 18, 2022, 07:33:13 AM
He has been FANTAstic for BE the last couple few years.  Has worked his ass off for 5+ years delivering content and promoting his brand.  Love his enthusiasm.

+1

He’s extremely knowledgeable with a genuine enthusiasm.  Always a great listen. 
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 18, 2022, 08:05:17 AM
He has been FANTAstic for BE the last couple few years.  Has worked his ass off for 5+ years delivering content and promoting his brand.  Love his enthusiasm.

FAN boi
Title: Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
Post by: Newsdreams on December 18, 2022, 08:32:45 AM
FAN boi
We do know there is man bro love involved