Would have looked good in Shakas system. Forgot the story on why Wojo dragged his feet on the offer?
Quote from: mhendrick on March 18, 2022, 08:56:39 PM
Would have looked good in Shakas system. Forgot the story on why Wojo dragged his feet on the offer?
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More like Hunter dragged his feet
Dude hitting bombs to win the game
Enormous shot. He should have been in a MU uni.
Good for him
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:13:19 PM
Enormous shot. He should have been in a MU uni.
Why?
There's a teacher from Racine St Catherine's (Hunter's school) who knew him and said more than once that MU was his "dream school". Then we got Stevie Mitchell and Iowa St got him. What might have been...
He is great. I like him a lot. He is playing awesome. 7-11 from three tonight.
He shoots 24.8% from three. Let slow our role here.
Wojo wanted mitchell.
Again, Hunter was offered BEFORE Mitchell.
Mitchell later committed to MU, Hunter the very next day, committed to ISU.
Hunter had every opportunity to commit to MU, but did not for reasons unknown to anybody. The Dream School story has been told on this board many times.
Quite the game for the young guy. Had more threes in one game then Mitchell had all year.
What if Marquette signed Teddy Allen?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 18, 2022, 09:16:55 PM
There's a teacher from Racine St Catherine's (Hunter's school) who knew him and said more than once that MU was his "dream school". Then we got Stevie Mitchell and Iowa St got him. What might have been...
They gave him a chance to sign before Mitchell accepted, oh well, maybe better then Kolek. Saw him in High School, I would have not left the gym until he came to my school, loved his quickness!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 18, 2022, 09:16:55 PM
There's a teacher from Racine St Catherine's (Hunter's school) who knew him and said more than once that MU was his "dream school". Then we got Stevie Mitchell and Iowa St got him. What might have been...
Revisionist history is fun!
Hunter was offered by MU two days after he got the ISU offer. And the idea that Mitchell cost us Hunter has been debunked here repeatedly.
Anyway great for Hunter but this game was a bit of an outlier.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:17:33 PM
Because he was 20 miles from our campus.
Lol. So? He was offered and didn't come.
NM
Quote from: Clarissa on March 18, 2022, 09:21:25 PM
Lol. So? He was offered and didn't come.
We should have gone all out. Very upsetting. The kid has game Fluffy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:23:02 PM
We should have gone all out. Very upsetting. The kid has game Fluffy.
I was on his recruiting visit. He told everyone he wanted to go to Iowa State
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:23:02 PM
We should have gone all out. Very upsetting. The kid has game Fluffy.
Sure he does. But the idea that local recruits are ours to lose is false.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2022, 09:24:15 PM
I was on his recruiting visit. He told everyone he wanted to go to Iowa State
Fine. But whatever happened to the art of persuasion?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2022, 09:24:15 PM
I was on his recruiting visit. He told everyone he wanted to go to Iowa State
Herman, is that you?
Jalen Johnson and Patrick Baldwin Jr were even closer to campus than Hunter. Should have got them too. What happened to persuasion?
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2022, 09:29:38 PM
Jalen Johnson and Patrick Baldwin Jr were even closer to campus than Hunter. Should have got them too. What happened to persuasion?
Exactly.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:27:25 PM
Fine. But whatever happened to the art of persuasion?
Didn't matter. He was already gone. His body language was bad
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2022, 09:30:31 PM
Didn't matter. He was already gone. His body language was bad
He kept looking at his phone during the game.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2022, 09:29:38 PM
Jalen Johnson and Patrick Baldwin Jr were even closer to campus than Hunter. Should have got them too. What happened to persuasion?
Devils advocate - neither of those guys every remotely considered us.
Quote from: Clarissa on March 18, 2022, 09:25:28 PM
Sure he does. But the idea that local recruits are ours to lose is false.
They should be ours to lose. Perhaps we need to increase our tenacity and marketing locally?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:34:12 PM
They should be ours to lose. Perhaps we need to increase our tenacity and marketing locally?
Why should they be "ours" to lose?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:34:12 PM
They should be ours to lose. Perhaps we need to increase our tenacity and marketing locally?
Hot take:
While I would have loved Hunter at MU, most local recruits end up being more of a headache than they're worth.
I believe Shaka will try harder to get local kids in the future
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:34:12 PM
They should be ours to lose. Perhaps we need to increase our tenacity and marketing locally?
Wojo had poor relationships with the two top aau programs in the area. Local recruiting should improve. We're already heavy on Milan Mo just outside the city. Very good high major player.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 18, 2022, 09:39:45 PM
Hot take:
While I would have loved Hunter at MU, most local recruits end up being more of a headache than they're worth.
Who ?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 18, 2022, 09:39:02 PM
Why should they be "ours" to lose?
We need to increase our influence locally when it comes to tier one talent if available.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 18, 2022, 09:41:36 PM
We need to increase our influence locally when it comes to tier one talent if available.
Sure
Quote from: JWags85 on March 18, 2022, 09:29:38 PM
Jalen Johnson and Patrick Baldwin Jr were even closer to campus than Hunter. Should have got them too. What happened to persuasion?
Did either say repeatedly that MU was their dream school?
Marketing needs to be better! Stores in the area don't even sell Marquette merchandise. It's all badger crap
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 18, 2022, 09:44:58 PM
Did either say repeatedly that MU was their dream school?
Yes. T. Hunter is much different recruit than these other guys.
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 18, 2022, 09:44:58 PM
Did either say repeatedly that MU was their dream school?
I guess it wasn't though.
Quote from: mhendrick on March 18, 2022, 09:46:53 PM
Marketing needs to be better! Stores in the area don't even sell Marquette merchandise. It's all badger crap
might be a licensing hang-up. But, if the Golden Eagle is on it, hard pass.
Badger crap. Agreed.
Quote from: panda on March 18, 2022, 09:40:10 PM
Wojo had poor relationships with the two top aau programs in the area. Local recruiting should improve. We're already heavy on Milan Mo just outside the city. Very good high major player.
Watched his game today. Very fundamentally sound. Incredible footwork in the post, great coordination, boxed out, and a nice passer.
Did most of his work in the post but looked fluid handling the ball. Clean shooting stroke but didn't attempt many perimeter shots today. Hit a great fadeaway in the lane, which isn't a surprise after seeing his highlight vids. He's also got a one legged Dirk style fadeaway in his repertoire, but at 10-15 feet instead of 20 feet like Dirk.
Long arms, slight build, not a high flyer but a functional athlete. Physically a bit like Chet Holmgren, but not as tall or long.
An interesting prospect. Wish I could see him matchup with bigger and more athletic players to get a better idea of his college projection.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 18, 2022, 09:16:55 PM
There's a teacher from Racine St Catherine's (Hunter's school) who knew him and said more than once that MU was his "dream school". Then we got Stevie Mitchell and Iowa St got him. What might have been...
I never should have publicly related that story. Y'all won't let it go. It was early in his recruitment. I don't think he even mentioned Iowa State reaching out.
You must have missed the other story I told about his friends laughing at me for saying "I wish he would have picked Marquette" at the end of senior year. Something changed. I never had the chance to ask Tyrese what.
That said, I had a big smile watching him dominate last night. He's a good kid who has been through a ton. He deserves all the praise he's getting.
And for y'all to stop whining about missing out. Blame Wojo.
That's right. Woj crapped da bed plenty and the diarrhea never ran down his legs more and into his shoes than with missin' on Hunter and Davis, hey?
This is the only Hunter I care about:
https://www.youtube.com/v/H9bYoclgxzk
Here I thought dis thread was gonna get inta a reel meaty political pissin' match. How silly, aina?
Quote from: Clarissa on March 18, 2022, 09:20:25 PM
Anyway great for Hunter but this game was a bit of an outlier.
I believe he was Big12 Freshman of the yea, also I heard he may test the NBA waters.
I should have been more clear, the way he shot the ball was a bit of an outlier.
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 19, 2022, 08:29:12 AM
I believe he was Big12 Freshman of the yea, also I heard he may test the NBA waters.
He is a six foot guard that shoots 68% from the FT line, and 28% from three even after going 7-11 in a game.
Testing the waters for him is going to last all of 3 hours.
Quote from: jfp61 on March 19, 2022, 09:59:44 AM
He is a six foot guard that shoots 68% from the FT line, and 28% from three even after going 7-11 in a game.
Testing the waters for him is going to last all of 3 hours.
Kolek had a better offensive rating than Hunter this year. Both turned it over too much but had good assist rates.
If Hunter commits as a Wojo recruit and sticks around and puts up the numbers he did this year, I can think of a few people who would say "clear the decks" and let him go.
Hunter looked poised and composed under the bright lights of the NCAA tournament last night. Something this MU team could have used.
Quote from: jfp61 on March 19, 2022, 09:59:44 AM
He is a six foot guard that shoots 68% from the FT line, and 28% from three even after going 7-11 in a game.
Testing the waters for him is going to last all of 3 hours.
Probably longer than Lewis, doe. I think Lewis is gone regardless. Seemed completely disinterested this season, even when he could have been the alpha dog, hey?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2022, 10:07:58 AM
Kolek had a better offensive rating than Hunter this year. Both turned it over too much but had good assist rates.
If Hunter commits as a Wojo recruit and sticks around and puts up the numbers he did this year, I can think of a few people who would say "clear the decks" and let him go.
Pretty funny that Kolek and Hunter had the exact same number of 3 point FG makes/attempts. Both finished 36-128. Kolek had a better assist rate. Hunter better 2pt FG%
The Kolek hate from some MU fans is pretty ignorant. He has some holes in his game, primarily the inability to finish around the rim. I think he actually shot a 6 foot floater in the UNC game that was one of the few he attempted all season. I 100% believe Kolek can improve his 3 point shooting, and all off season his drill work needs to be working on 6-8' teardrop floaters. He consistently can get into the lane and get that shot.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 19, 2022, 11:04:57 AM
Pretty funny that Kolek and Hunter had the exact same number of 3 point FG makes/attempts. Both finished 36-128. Kolek had a better assist rate. Hunter better 2pt FG%
The Kolek hate from some MU fans is pretty ignorant. He has some holes in his game, primarily the inability to finish around the rim. I think he actually shot a 6 foot floater in the UNC game that was one of the few he attempted all season. I 100% believe Kolek can improve his 3 point shooting, and all off season his drill work needs to be working on 6-8' teardrop floaters. He consistently can get into the lane and get that shot.
Sports fans are a slave to the moment and completely throw out the body of work. Do I think Hunter has a higher ceiling? Yes, but it's revisionist history to think Marquette is a different team with him on it.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2022, 11:08:26 AM
Sports fans are a slave to the moment and completely throw out the body of work. Do I think Hunter has a higher ceiling? Yes, but it's revisionist history to think Marquette is a different team with him on it.
Agree with all the above.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2022, 11:08:26 AM
Sports fans are a slave to the moment and completely throw out the body of work. Do I think Hunter has a higher ceiling? Yes, but it's revisionist history to think Marquette is a different team with him on it.
Yep yep.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 19, 2022, 11:04:57 AM
Pretty funny that Kolek and Hunter had the exact same number of 3 point FG makes/attempts. Both finished 36-128. Kolek had a better assist rate. Hunter better 2pt FG%
The Kolek hate from some MU fans is pretty ignorant. He has some holes in his game, primarily the inability to finish around the rim. I think he actually shot a 6 foot floater in the UNC game that was one of the few he attempted all season. I 100% believe Kolek can improve his 3 point shooting, and all off season his drill work needs to be working on 6-8' teardrop floaters. He consistently can get into the lane and get that shot.
It's not "hate" to point out he turned the ball over too much and didn't provide enough of a scoring threat. That's just stating facts.
The question is "can he improve?"
Quote from: Clarissa on March 19, 2022, 11:18:06 AM
It's not "hate" to point out he turned the ball over too much and didn't provide enough of a scoring threat. That's just stating facts.
The question is "can he improve?"
Reading some of the comments here you'd think Kolek was Derrick Wilson. It's been referenced we were playing 3 on 5 many times? Huh?
Would I like to see fewer turnovers and better shooting from Kolek? Of course. Do I think he can improve in both areas? Yes. Was it just his first year playing exclusively as a PG at high major university as a sophomore? Yes.
Sidenote: I can live with a higher turnover rate when the player is in constant attack mode. The pressure players like Kolek and Hunter put on a defense is substantial. End of the day Kolek made everyone on the floor with him a better player/have better opportunities to score. There is A LOT to build on there.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 10:48:52 AM
Probably longer than Lewis, doe. I think Lewis is gone regardless. Seemed completely disinterested this season, even when he could have been the alpha dog, hey?
The First Team All Big East that averaged 17 and 8 a game "seemed completely disinterested this season?" Lol. If so, he should probably be the first overall pick in the Draft with the thought that NBA teams could get him to play "interested."
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2022, 12:33:29 PM
The First Team All Big East that averaged 17 and 8 a game "seemed completely disinterested this season?" Lol. If so, he should probably be the first overall pick in the Draft with the thought that NBA teams could get him to play "interested."
Yup. The meat bros takes on Lewis, are, well, hot.
Ahah, da same dude who couldn't sho up four da biggest game of his life. Yeah, da Association iz just waitin' on 'im, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 04:36:51 PM
Ahah, da same dude who couldn't sho up four da biggest game of his life. Yeah, da Association iz just waitin' on 'im, aina?
How'd Kevon Looney perform in the NCAA Tournament?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 08:18:56 AM
Here I thought dis thread was gonna get inta a reel meaty political pissin' match. How silly, aina?
Biden owes me gas money
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 10:48:52 AM
I think Lewis is gone regardless. Seemed completely disinterested this season, even when he could have been the alpha dog, hey?
Your uninformed attack on Lewis -- who was the main reason MU had any success at all under Shaka this season -- is your Hangin' In The Al version of "Trade Giannis' azz."
Congrats on coming up with an even more ridiculous and clueless basketball take!
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2022, 05:28:17 PM
Your uninformed attack on Lewis -- who was the main reason MU had any success at all under Shaka this season -- is your Hangin' In The Al version of "Trade Giannis' azz."
Congrats on coming up with an even more ridiculous and clueless basketball take!
Lewis isn't disinterested. He simply doesn't have a real excitable personality. He's got a pretty low key demeanor. That's ok.
primarily the inability to finish around the rim?
He actually has go to the rim to be able to finish around the rim. Usually dribbles towards the basket, sees someone over 6 feet guarding him and he looks to pass or dribbles away towards the baseline.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2022, 04:53:47 PM
How'd Kevon Looney perform in the NCAA Tournament?
Hold on Fo, I'll text 'im and report back, hey?
Quote from: Clarissa on March 19, 2022, 11:18:06 AM
It's not "hate" to point out he turned the ball over too much and didn't provide enough of a scoring threat. That's just stating facts.
The question is "can he improve?"
Needs to spend the summer doing individuals with Travis. Lots of questions about Stevie's growth, incoming freshmen, and the transfer portal as well.
So yo, #5 averaged 8.3 pts and 9.6 rebs in 3 NCAAT games in 2015, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 06:37:09 PM
So yo, #5 averaged 8.3 pts and 9.6 rebs in 3 NCAAT games in 2015, hey?
So the dude averaged single digits on the biggest stage of his life and the Warriors spent a first round pick on him?! Sheesh, talk about an incompetent organization...
C'mon man, I'm certain you know this, but just to refresh your memory, Looney was the 11th rated player and a McD AA at 6'9.5 inches tall coming out of Hamilton HS. Had offers from all the big boys. Final 6 schools were Duke, MSU, Tennessee, Florida, UW, and UCLA. Chose the Bruins partially because Steve Alford told him, "I'll get you to the NBA" and was smart enough to arrange a face to face meeting with Kevon's favorite player, Kobe.
He played the entire college season injured. Tore a hip labrum in September prior to the season lifting weights. In spite of that, Kevon averaged a double/double and was named 2nd team All-Pac 12. Went on 18 pre-draft workouts and was projected to be a lottery selection until the torn labrum was discovered in pre-draft physicals. Fell to Golden State, who by the way, never worked him out prior to the draft figuring he would not be available at #30. When shaking Adam Silver's hand after being selected, Silver jokingly asked Kevon, "what took you so long to get here?"
Looney is an unrestricted free agent after this season, has 2 rings, and earned approximately $23.5 million during his career.
Let me know if you want to further compare #5 vs #10, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 07:26:48 PM
C'mon man, I'm certain you know this, but just to refresh your memory, Looney was the 11th rated player and a McD AA at 6'9.5 inches tall coming out of Hamilton HS. Had offers from all the big boys. Final 6 schools were Duke, MSU, Tennessee, Florida, UW, and UCLA. Choose the Bruins partially because Steve Alford told him, "I'll get you to the NBA" and was smart enough to arrange a face to face meeting with Kevon's favorite player, Kobe.
He played the entire college season injured. Tore a hip labrum in September prior to the season lifting weights. In spite of that, Kevon averaged a double/double and was named 2nd team All-Pac 12. Went on 18 pre-draft workouts and was projected to be a lottery selection until the torn labrum was discovered in pre-draft physicals. Fell to Golden State, who by the way, never worked him out prior to the draft figuring he would not be available at #30. When shaking Adam Silver's hand after being selected, Silver jokingly asked Kevon, "what took you so long to get here?"
Looney is an unrestricted free agent after this season, has 2 rings, and earned approximately $23.5 million during his career.
Let me know if you want to further compare #5 vs #10, hey?
You're the one smart enough to be predicting #10's professional future based on a single NCAA Tournament game.
Congrats to Looney on his Second Team All Pac 12. #10 was First Team in a better conference.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 07:26:48 PM
C'mon man, I'm certain you know this, but just to refresh your memory, Looney was the 11th rated player and a McD AA at 6'9.5 inches tall coming out of Hamilton HS. Had offers from all the big boys. Final 6 schools were Duke, MSU, Tennessee, Florida, UW, and UCLA. Choose the Bruins partially because Steve Alford told him, "I'll get you to the NBA" and was smart enough to arrange a face to face meeting with Kevon's favorite player, Kobe.
He played the entire college season injured. Tore a hip labrum in September prior to the season lifting weights. In spite of that, Kevon averaged a double/double and was named 2nd team All-Pac 12. Went on 18 pre-draft workouts and was projected to be a lottery selection until the torn labrum was discovered in pre-draft physicals. Fell to Golden State, who by the way, never worked him out prior to the draft figuring he would not be available at #30. When shaking Adam Silver's hand after being selected, Silver jokingly asked Kevon, "what took you so long to get here?"
Looney is an unrestricted free agent after this season, has 2 rings, and earned approximately $23.5 million during his career.
Let me know if you want to further compare #5 vs #10, hey?
How are his teeth?
In the biggest game (to that point) of Dwayne Wade's Marquette career, he sucked. 5 TOs and 4/11 shooting vs Holy Cross. Had to be bailed out by Diener, or else there never woulda been a triple-double vs Kentucky.
What a failure, nu?
Nads, that team had 4 NBA players on it. This year's team had bupkis which has been my feeling all season. We need a major upgrade in talent and I have no doubt Shaka will deliver that talent, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 07:40:54 PM
Nads, that team had 4 NBA players on it. This year's team had bupkis which has been my feeling all season. We need a major upgrade in talent and I have no doubt Shaka will deliver that talent, aina?
We agree on all that.
Where we disagree is your claim that a first-team All-Big East player who made it possible for Shaka to have any success at all this season "seemed completely disinterested" all year.
An absurd take and an unnecessary attack on a college kid who worked his ass off to entertain ungrateful mopes like you, nu?
He's a grown ass man who wasn't entertaining mopes like me, thank you very much.
He is well compensated and should be honing his craft in an effort to earn a kazillion
dollars in the working world. aka da NBA or Never Broke Again, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2022, 07:20:35 AM
He's a grown ass man who wasn't entertaining mopes like me, thank you very much.
He is well compensated and should be honing his craft in an effort to a kazillion
dollars in the working world. aka da NBA or Never Broke Again, hey?
Based on everything written about Justin Lewis this year by those closest to the team, I have little doubt he was honing his craft and working hard.
He was voted most improved player of the year in the conference.
But sure, sweater vests probably know more about that stuff than the people covering it and the coaches in the league
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2022, 07:20:35 AM
He's a grown ass man who wasn't entertaining mopes like me, thank you very much.
He is well compensated and should be honing his craft in an effort to earn a kazillion
dollars in the working world. aka da NBA or Never Broke Again, hey?
I guess the bottom line is that you think Shaka is an idiot and/or a poor motivator.
Because why would a good coach keep giving 35 mpg to a player who "seemed completely disinterested" all season? Why would a good motivator let a player get away with being "completely disinterested" all season? And here I thought you supported Shaka. My bad.
You might want to be a grown ass man yourself and stop ripping on 20-year-olds when you don't know what the hell you're talking about, Mr. Trade Giannis' Azz.
FTR Justin is still only 19.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 11:40:16 AM
FTR Justin is still only 19.
Thanks for the correction. Makes it a little more pathetic that some would rip on a hard-working teenager who was personally responsible for numerous Marquette wins this season and whom Shaka obviously considered the best player on the team.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2022, 12:33:29 PM
The First Team All Big East that averaged 17 and 8 a game "seemed completely disinterested this season?" Lol. If so, he should probably be the first overall pick in the Draft with the thought that NBA teams could get him to play "interested."
Shush now, "doc" Dribble is a proven evaluator of basketball talent.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 11:40:16 AM
FTR Justin is still only 19.
He will be 20 in 3 weeks.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 21, 2022, 12:22:27 PM
He will be 20 in 3 weeks.
Right, so he's still 19, and has been all season.
Great but did you know Markus Howard was 17?
Find someone who loves you the way doc loves Kevin Looney.
Kevon, bro, hey?
Quote from: Clarissa on March 18, 2022, 09:21:25 PM
Lol. So? He was offered and didn't come.
Lets keep playing the what if game. What if we got rj davis?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2022, 07:26:48 PM
C'mon man, I'm certain you know this, but just to refresh your memory, Looney was the 11th rated player and a McD AA at 6'9.5 inches tall coming out of Hamilton HS. Had offers from all the big boys. Final 6 schools were Duke, MSU, Tennessee, Florida, UW, and UCLA. Chose the Bruins partially because Steve Alford told him, "I'll get you to the NBA" and was smart enough to arrange a face to face meeting with Kevon's favorite player, Kobe.
He played the entire college season injured. Tore a hip labrum in September prior to the season lifting weights. In spite of that, Kevon averaged a double/double and was named 2nd team All-Pac 12. Went on 18 pre-draft workouts and was projected to be a lottery selection until the torn labrum was discovered in pre-draft physicals. Fell to Golden State, who by the way, never worked him out prior to the draft figuring he would not be available at #30. When shaking Adam Silver's hand after being selected, Silver jokingly asked Kevon, "what took you so long to get here?"
Looney is an unrestricted free agent after this season, has 2 rings, and earned approximately $23.5 million during his career.
Let me know if you want to further compare #5 vs #10, hey?
Triggered loser....