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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on February 26, 2022, 02:12:10 PM
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1. Butler played offense like MU when MU is playing well. Moving the ball, cutting to open spots when the defense reacts.
2. Rebounding was not improved during the week off. It did improve in the second half.
3. Greg gets knocked down a lot without getting any calls.
4. Mitchell played his butt off on defense. May have been the only one. Shaka rewarded effort with minutes.
5. Interior defense was abysmal for 28 minutes. Kur in particular. Made worse by the inability to contain the dribble.
6. Defense found itself late. Stevie and Oso.
7. Thank goodness Lewis finally got frustrated enough to attack the rim.
8. Go 4 guard, give up a rebound on a free throw. Bullet dodged.
9. MU kept fighting and found a way to win ugly. The only really important word there is 'win. '
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Said it in the game thread.
Days away from March. Wins a win.
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At this moment all I give a sh*t about is that we won and I can truly enjoy the rest of my Saturday.
Also, anyone who questions what Steve Mitchell can bring should pipe down.
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At this moment all I give a sh*t about is that we won and I can truly enjoy the rest of my Saturday.
Also, anyone who questions what Steve Mitchell can bring should pipe down.
Exactly. Enjoy the rest of the Saturday everyone. Much needed win.
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Huge win and all that matters is the final score. I think we can reestablish momentum to close the reg season. Shot poorly but still found a way today.
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I just want Oso to gain twenty pounds.
Win is a win.
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At this moment all I give a sh*t about is that we won and I can truly enjoy the rest of my Saturday.
Also, anyone who questions what Steve Mitchell can bring should pipe down.
Agreed. He turned the tide and got the crowd into it.
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A win now is a BIG win. Go Marquette!
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MU gave up 24 points in a hurry. 32 over the last 3/4 of the game. A switch got flipped on defense.
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I just want Oso to gain twenty pounds.
Win is a win.
Offseason is obviously big for everyone but if he can put on 15 lbs of muscle before next season that will make a big difference. Hopefully his frame can accommodate that.
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MU gave up 24 points in a hurry. 32 over the last 3/4 of the game. A switch got flipped on defense.
It was brutal the first 8 minutes. Kur was terrible and the rest of the guys looked like they were stuck in cement. Made shots helped them set the defense
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Projected 8/9 for the tournament. I hope not. I'd rather be a 10/11 than 8/9.
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I'd rather be a 6/7. Maybe a 6 is unlikely at this point but a 7 is well within reach.
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Projected 8/9 for the tournament. I hope not. I'd rather be a 10/11 than 8/9.
6 or 7 is right there for us which is a solid spot. 8/9 is never ideal, true.
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Kur has been brutal for awhile now - what’s up?
It was brutal the first 8 minutes. Kur was terrible and the rest of the guys looked like they were stuck in cement. Made shots helped them set the defense
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Win is a win and it’s a big one.
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Kur was a back up center at Oklahoma. He is limited offensively. Teams are running sets to bring him away and make him defend in space. When they aren't doing that, he is guarding players who out weigh him by 25-40 lbs.
In a funk.
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6 or 7 is right there for us which is a solid spot. 8/9 is never ideal, true.
They kept showing Decourcey’s seeding but Bracket Matrix has us as the best 7th seed before the win today. If MU wins their final two games they be a solid 6 and possibly a 5. Need to take care of business.
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3. Greg gets knocked falls down a lot without getting any calls.
Fixed. Never seen anyone sprawled on the court as often as Greg.
Loved seeing Stevie get extra minutes and knock down a couple of shots. If there is a stat of deflections per 40, he has to be the leader.
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Stevie may have turned the tide with his defensive effort but Oso was huge down the stretch. Very happy for him.
Meanwhile, need better defensive effort from Greg. IMHO, his offense does not make up for his defense
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Kur has been brutal for awhile now - what’s up?
One trick pony. A good trick but avoidable
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And his offense has been pretty subpar lately
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Stevie may have turned the tide with his defensive effort but Oso was huge down the stretch. Very happy for him.
Meanwhile, need better defensive effort from Greg. IMHO, his offense does not make up for his defense
He's way to straight up guarding off the bounce and gets pushed around
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He gets to the line when the offense bogs down though. Better than really anyone else on this team.
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Joplin had some nice minutes. With about 12 to go, I wanted him in the game instead of Lewis. Lewis started attacking. Never mind.
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+1 on Joplin. It feels like his play has improved a lot lately with pretty limited opportunity.
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+1 on Joplin. It feels like his play has improved a lot lately with pretty limited opportunity.
Jop is going to be a beast offensively. Let's hope the rest of his game comes around.
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Offseason is obviously big for everyone but if he can put on 15 lbs of muscle before next season that will make a big difference. Hopefully his frame can accommodate that.
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Oso for sure needs some more muscle, but MU really plays 4 on 5 as both centers have zero outside shot which means they can never do pick and pop, only can dunk. The offense will be much better if he could recruit somebody in the middle that can at least show some offense
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Oso for sure needs some more muscle, but MU really plays 4 on 5 as both centers have zero outside shot which means they can never do pick and pop, only can dunk. The offense will be much better if he could recruit somebody in the middle that can at least show some offense
No doubt about it.
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Oso for sure needs some more muscle, but MU really plays 4 on 5 as both centers have zero outside shot which means they can never do pick and pop, only can dunk. The offense will be much better if he could recruit somebody in the middle that can at least show some offense
Oso is a good free throw shooter. I think he has the ability with more practice and comfort.
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Oso for sure needs some more muscle, but MU really plays 4 on 5 as both centers have zero outside shot which means they can never do pick and pop, only can dunk. The offense will be much better if he could recruit somebody in the middle that can at least show some offense
I don't know which Oso you're watching, but the kid can do way more than dunk. He's got some of the best handles on the team (especially for a big) and when he drives he flashes NBA potential. If he learns to shoot the 3 or even 15 footers he will be very tough to stop.
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Oso is a good free throw shooter. I think he has the ability with more practice and comfort.
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Yes, surprising he does not even try it, I was told he has zero shot, surprised he recruit in this era that can not shot a three!
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Butler has been playing well. Came out with a good plan and MU adjusted. Nice to see.
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I don't know which Oso you're watching, but the kid can do way more than dunk. He's got some of the best handles on the team (especially for a big) and when he drives he flashes NBA potential. If he learns to shoot the 3 or even 15 footers he will be very tough to stop.
I watch a center that is quick but only shows flashes, once today that he made. Does not rebound and is as soft as they come. Never gets a rebound and powers it up, built like a wing.
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could not capitalize on the 16 turnovers...UGGGGG
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Happy the team won in front of a packed house on National Marquette Day.
Nice to see the youngsters contributing at key moments.
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I watch a center that is quick but only shows flashes, once today that he made. Does not rebound and is as soft as they come. Never gets a rebound and powers it up, built like a wing.
He also has a ton of potential and room to grow. He played a total of, what, 38 minutes all of last season?
Yeah, his hands and him getting pushed around underneath can be frustrating. He's also going to make contributions this year and has an offseason to really get stronger and better.
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Stevie and Joplin will both be very good 4 year players. The kind of players programs are built on.
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I see a guy who in 2 years and 25 lbs of muscle is going to be an absolute among post players. Ball handling, passing, seeing the floor. A jump shot and look out. He is getting pushed around right now, but he kept fighting and had some absolutely crucial defensive plays down the stretch.
If MU faces Gonzaga, I see one of the two guys I think can actually make Holmgren work.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401373606
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7 footers that can shoot the three well enough that you actually want them to shoot the three are players that go to Kentucky and Duke, not Marquette. I’m good with our 7 footers knowing their roll. Sure guys like Golden, Nunje, and Freemantle are able to make a 3 pointer, and heck, maybe even get hot for a full game and that makes the difference in a game. But as an opposing fan, I consider a possession that ends with those guys shooting jumpers as a win.
Watson and Sonogo have zero ability to shoot a jump shot. Are we saying Providence and UCONN are playing 4 on 5 when those guys are on the court? Because that’s a hard disagree from me.
Totally good with Shaka recruiting bigs who can run the floor, block shots, and dunk the ball. Jaxson Hayes, Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, and Jericho Simms were okay with those roles, too.
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7 footers that can shoot the three well enough that you actually want them to shoot the three are players that go to Kentucky and Duke, not Marquette. I’m good with our 7 footers knowing their roll. Sure guys like Golden, Nunje, and Freemantle are able to make a 3 pointer, and heck, maybe even get hot for a full game and that makes the difference in a game. But as an opposing fan, I consider a possession that ends with those guys shooting jumpers as a win.
Watson and Sonogo have zero ability to shoot a jump shot. Are we saying Providence and UCONN are playing 4 on 5 when those guys are on the court? Because that’s a hard disagree from me.
Totally good with Shaka recruiting bigs who can run the floor, block shots, and dunk the ball. Jaxson Hayes, Mo Bamba, Jarrett Allen, and Jericho Simms were okay with those roles, too.
Also, POY front runner Tschiebwe can't shoot for sh it. Guy just dominates down low and eats glass.
Oso needs to get stronger 100%. But a jump shot is not nearly as necessary, could help. But not needed.
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Crowd (not including students) was glued to their seats until the last 8 minutes. A couple people tried to stand near me and had to sit down because no one joined them. Thought we'd get more energy on NMD. Students were excellent
Sean Jones in the house and got a shout out from Mike Jacabowski. He looked like he was having a great time. Real short but really thick
Got the chance to be at an event where Nevada Smith took questions from some fans. Warned us that the rebounding was a personnel issue and would not be fixed this year but that they should be doing better than they have been.
Defense was really good for the last 28 minutes. Nice to see that trend reverse.
Was disappointed that we didn't attack more. Butler is excellent at defending the three and terrible at protecting the paint. How are Elliott and Joplin getting to the bucket but not Lewis, Kolek, or Kam?
Nze completely stymied Justin until the end. Punked him for some boards too. Glad he woke up at the end. For those saying he's not ready to go pro... he probably helped his draft status more than hurt it today. Scouts don't care if you have a bad shooting game or get beat a few times on d. They care about potential. What Lewis showed them in the last 8 minutes likely caught their attention.
Finally and most importantly #DLTD
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Crowd (not including students) was glued to their seats until the last 8 minutes. A couple people tried to stand near me and had to sit down because no one joined them. Thought we'd get more energy on NMD. Students were excellent
Sean Jones in the house and got a shout out from Mike Jacabowski. He looked like he was having a great time. Real short but really thick
Got the chance to be at an event where Nevada Smith took questions from some fans. Warned us that the rebounding was a personnel issue and would not be fixed this year but that they should be doing better than they have been.
Defense was really good for the last 28 minutes. Nice to see that trend reverse.
Was disappointed that we didn't attack more. Butler is excellent at defending the three and terrible at protecting the paint. How are Elliott and Joplin getting to the bucket but not Lewis, Kolek, or Kam?
Nze completely stymied Justin until the end. Punked him for some boards too. Glad he woke up at the end. For those saying he's not ready to go pro... he probably helped his draft status more than hurt it today. Scouts don't care if you have a bad shooting game or get beat a few times on d. They care about potential. What Lewis showed them in the last 8 minutes likely caught their attention.
Finally and most importantly #DLTD
Said it all game. The fact that Greg, probably the worst dribble and move guy on the team is the only one consistently attacking Butler in two games is mind blowing. We have a lot of other guys that could really have their way against them. And we had Butler picking up fouls away from the hoop all game that most teams havnet been getting called for against us. Had a chance to really get points by attacking.
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Crowd (not including students) was glued to their seats until the last 8 minutes. A couple people tried to stand near me and had to sit down because no one joined them. Thought we'd get more energy on NMD. Students were excellent
Sean Jones in the house and got a shout out from Mike Jacabowski. He looked like he was having a great time. Real short but really thick
Got the chance to be at an event where Nevada Smith took questions from some fans. Warned us that the rebounding was a personnel issue and would not be fixed this year but that they should be doing better than they have been.
Defense was really good for the last 28 minutes. Nice to see that trend reverse.
Was disappointed that we didn't attack more. Butler is excellent at defending the three and terrible at protecting the paint. How are Elliott and Joplin getting to the bucket but not Lewis, Kolek, or Kam?
Nze completely stymied Justin until the end. Punked him for some boards too. Glad he woke up at the end. For those saying he's not ready to go pro... he probably helped his draft status more than hurt it today. Scouts don't care if you have a bad shooting game or get beat a few times on d. They care about potential. What Lewis showed them in the last 8 minutes likely caught their attention.
Finally and most importantly #DLTD
Scouting report. Teams want to run Greg and Joplin off the line. Teams want Morsell and Lewis to roam around the perimeter. Easier to drive when you can attack a hard closeout than it is to drive when the defense is laying off your jumper.
Also, I’m of the opinion that Lewis won’t prove a ton more by staying in college. But I don’t think this was a game NBA scouts will have been impressed by. The jump shot is going to make or break him. That’s the skill that will make him an NBA level player. He has the size and athleticism.
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Anyone know who they guy with the sweet jacket and even sweeter hair was sitting coutside who got a lot of tv time? That was a nice look!
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Is that the jump around guy?
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Is that the jump around guy?
Nope.
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Also, POY front runner Tschiebwe can't shoot for sh it. Guy just dominates down low and eats glass.
Oso needs to get stronger 100%. But a jump shot is not nearly as necessary, could help. But not needed.
When your as skinny as Oso, he will never be able to eat glass. He adds 15 pounds you may not even see a difference. But since he has no low post game, he a 15 footer would be nice
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I just want Oso to gain twenty pounds.
Win is a win.
He should talk to Butch Lee.
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Got the chance to be at an event where Nevada Smith took questions from some fans. Warned us that the rebounding was a personnel issue and would not be fixed this year but that they should be doing better than they have been.
We don't have a single player on the roster that goes and gets the ball consistently. I don't know if they will have the personnel next year either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZGnwBpUNg
Shaka post game.
DM post game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTmCX7jIbo
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I don't know which Oso you're watching, but the kid can do way more than dunk. He's got some of the best handles on the team (especially for a big) and when he drives he flashes NBA potential. If he learns to shoot the 3 or even 15 footers he will be very tough to stop.
"Best handles in the game"? Cmon man. He muffed at least two bunny passes to him that ended as toys. Amazing what people say after watching a game.
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We don't have a single player on the roster that goes and gets the ball consistently. I don't know if they will have the personnel next year either.
We do have one guy that can get the ball--Lewis. But MU is terrible at rebounding.
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Joyful Mazos Burgers Willie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZGnwBpUNg
Shaka post game.
DM post game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTmCX7jIbo
Says that Kam is best frosh he's been around, thinks Stevie was SOTG, again points and thanks previews staff for recruiting two great players. Woj to Shaka assistant?
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Wojo did recruit kids of good character. Couldn't recruit any athletic wings or switchables. Pedestrian game coach. But he did recruit kids of good character
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Kam would have put up big numbers and had been giving much more free reign in the Wojo system this year. He’s a baller and glad he stayed on board.
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Just goes to show Marquette needs to play all out to beat a conference foe.
Depaul in Chicago will not be easy. Seems like they have been able to get a win each season from us the last number of years.
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Great D the last thirty minutes of the game and again different guys stepping up. Time to start getting sharper and get back to midseason form. It is a long season and very hard to play at the Jan level for two plus months. The last few games were not even B grade performances, and that happens. It is now time to start dialing in on rotations and getting back in form.
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Crowd (not including students) was glued to their seats until the last 8 minutes. A couple people tried to stand near me and had to sit down because no one joined them. Thought we'd get more energy on NMD. Students were excellent
Sean Jones in the house and got a shout out from Mike Jacabowski. He looked like he was having a great time. Real short but really thick
Got the chance to be at an event where Nevada Smith took questions from some fans. Warned us that the rebounding was a personnel issue and would not be fixed this year but that they should be doing better than they have been.
Defense was really good for the last 28 minutes. Nice to see that trend reverse.
Was disappointed that we didn't attack more. Butler is excellent at defending the three and terrible at protecting the paint. How are Elliott and Joplin getting to the bucket but not Lewis, Kolek, or Kam?
Nze completely stymied Justin until the end. Punked him for some boards too. Glad he woke up at the end. For those saying he's not ready to go pro... he probably helped his draft status more than hurt it today. Scouts don't care if you have a bad shooting game or get beat a few times on d. They care about potential. What Lewis showed them in the last 8 minutes likely caught their attention.
Finally and most importantly #DLTD
Brother TAMU, you saying student section didn't suck? Scoop blasphemy!!!!
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Anyone know who they guy with the sweet jacket and even sweeter hair was sitting coutside who got a lot of tv time? That was a nice look!
Dennis Klumb?
https://www.marquette.edu/alumni/awards-2018/recipients/klumb.php
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Dennis Klumb?
https://www.marquette.edu/alumni/awards-2018/recipients/klumb.php
Absolutely loved his story about sneaking into the arena with the band when he and his friend could not afford tickets to a big game.
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Dennis Klumb?
https://www.marquette.edu/alumni/awards-2018/recipients/klumb.php
"Arby Construction"...I like the guy already. I wonder if they were responsible for the architecture of the Beef N' Cheddar.
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The Klumb family are very smart business folks. Sold their company again recently and hopefully continue to support the program in a big way.
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Joplin had some nice minutes. With about 12 to go, I wanted him in the game instead of Lewis. Lewis started attacking. Never mind.
Same. Partly because Lewis looked really slow on defense
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Two keys to the game IMHO:
First half - switching to the press. Not only did it force a couple of quick Butler TOs, it woke up our guys out of their funk.
Second half - Stevie's play. His bucket, 3, D and hustle turned a deficit into a lead we never lost and really got the crowd going.
Also ...
Once again, Shaka was willing to bury a starter on the bench. Kuath was having a miserable game anyway, and then he had a miserable start to the second half. I'm guessing there was considerable talk during the week about staying well clear of the line when inbounding, and when Kuath committed that violation, that was the last straw for Shaka.
Kam got the start over O-Max but didn't really take advantage of the promotion.
Elliott is struggling with his shot, something all good shooters experience. I'm glad he's at least been aggressive going to the hoop and drawing fouls. Still, it's hard to play him when he's missing 3s. Only 14 minutes. Stevie's play had something to do with that.
Was nice to see Lewis hang in there despite his poor start and then carry us down the stretch. It's why Shaka sticks with him, and why he is showing up in mock drafts. Justin is our one and only stud, and he can take over a game at any time.
Kudos to Oso for really holding down the middle during the key part of the game.
It was our first time going to the NMD game ... it won't be our last. Had a great time getting together with friends we don't see often enough Friday night, and then got to celebrate an important win by our heroes.
We're visiting our son, DIL and grand-twins in Chicago now ... just taught the 2 1/2-year-olds how to say, "We Are Marquette!"
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1. Butler played offense like MU when MU is playing well. Moving the ball, cutting to open spots when the defense reacts.
2. Rebounding was not improved during the week off. It did improve in the second half.
3. Greg gets knocked down a lot without getting any calls.
4. Mitchell played his butt off on defense. May have been the only one. Shaka rewarded effort with minutes.
5. Interior defense was abysmal for 28 minutes. Kur in particular. Made worse by the inability to contain the dribble.
6. Defense found itself late. Stevie and Oso.
7. Thank goodness Lewis finally got frustrated enough to attack the rim.
8. Go 4 guard, give up a rebound on a free throw. Bullet dodged.
9. MU kept fighting and found a way to win ugly. The only really important word there is 'win. '
On your number 3 I would say that Greg falls to the floor a lot. The number of times he is knocked down is some subset of that.
I think the fact that he does go to the floor a lot makes it less likely that fouls will be called when he does.
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I agree. He falls a lot. I probably think he gets hit more than others do. C'est la vie.
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I agree. He falls a lot. I probably think he gets hit more than others do. C'est la vie.
I think he’s gotten a couple flop warnings the last few years.
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Greg’s become about the best on the team at drawing shooting fouls, which is a bit of a surprise.
Wade hit the floor more.
I am NOT saying G-Elliott = D-Wade!