I might just bet Providence here because winning some cash would be a nice consolation prize in the event MU lose. My gut feels we may lose tomorrow, yet looking at Providence roster (even if Reeves is back), we just seem much more versatile offensively..and our defense travels.
What are other bettors thinking?
I'm in Reno for the weekend. I lost 500 today before I got half of it back. So, I'm still a loser. But I had fun. Who am I to give advice? Hmmmm. Never mind. But still, I suggest you put your money on the Niners instead. Never, ever bet against your team. Even if you win, you'll regret it. And it won't make you any friends, so if you do it, don't admit it. Just sayin'
I'm thinking I shouldn't have bet Tsitsipas over Medvedev at the Aussie open since the Greek was 2-6 all time versus the Russian.
As for tomorrow, I'm thinking I probably shouldn't touch it with regards to the spread.
I sort of like the under if I were to bet- currently at 138,5.
Per KenPom Providence is 56 defensively and MU is 22. Providence plays VERY slow at 286, that's substantially slower than Wisconsin this season.
Although MU plays very fast, Providence doesn't turn it over much and I don't think Marquette presses a ton so I can see a slower tempo.
Neither team has a top 50 offense.
It's a game that has been changed to a new day, very early in the morning, with a lot of distractions due to change in schedule and the storm.
Also, likely an extra day of film which means a smart coach- which both are very very smart (pun intended)- can spend some extra time scouting/game planning which I think favors better defense.
Final score will likely now be 92-88.
I'll head over to betrivers to make it official
picks and parleys, docspicks and winners and whiners all take marquette. oddsshark computer model has MU winning
Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on January 29, 2022, 09:50:02 PM
picks and parleys, docspicks and winners and whiners all take marquette. oddsshark computer model has MU winning
Who's Doc and do his picks hold a lick of value?
Is he an ALM surgeon?
I'd take MU and the money line...better odds.
Big game. Could be the winner of the Big East regular season at stake. Our warriors come to play tomorrow and win. I'm betting on our guys.
I understand why people would shy away from this however.
Quote from: oilcan on January 29, 2022, 09:45:12 PM
I'm in Reno for the weekend. I lost 500 today before I got half of it back. So, I'm still a loser.
And you are also down $250 ;D
I would never ever put myself in a position to cheer for the team playing Marquette. Ever.
You would hope that Justin misses a last second shot to win the game to make a few bucks?? unnatural carnal knowledge that. Go MU!
So naturally, I said "Let's get the hell out of here." But my friend said, "Hey, the drinks are free and and think that girl over by the roulette wheel is looking at me." So do I cash out and call for valet parking? NO. You stick with your friend. Regardless of his situation.
Oh, bye the way, Marquette will beat the spread tomorrow. They will also win the game. Or I'll buy you lunch at Katie's.
Elon
I am sticking with MU both points and money line. Going a tad lighter, but sticking with my Warriors.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 29, 2022, 09:49:34 PM
I'm thinking I shouldn't have bet Tsitsipas over Medvedev at the Aussie open since the Greek was 2-6 all time versus the Russian.
As for tomorrow, I'm thinking I probably shouldn't touch it with regards to the spread.
I sort of like the under if I were to bet- currently at 138,5.
Per KenPom Providence is 56 defensively and MU is 22. Providence plays VERY slow at 286, that's substantially slower than Wisconsin this season.
Although MU plays very fast, Providence doesn't turn it over much and I don't think Marquette presses a ton so I can see a slower tempo.
Neither team has a top 50 offense.
It's a game that has been changed to a new day, very early in the morning, with a lot of distractions due to change in schedule and the storm.
Also, likely an extra day of film which means a smart coach- which both are very very smart (pun intended)- can spend some extra time scouting/game planning which I think favors better defense.
Final score will likely now be 92-88.
I'll head over to betrivers to make it official
Without looking at Ken Pom...i would bet that his total is within a point or two of the books.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 30, 2022, 07:20:27 AM
Without looking at Ken Pom...i would bet that his total is within a point or two of the books.
KenPom has The Dence 70 MUBB 68
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 29, 2022, 11:04:45 PM
I would never ever put myself in a position to cheer for the team playing Marquette. Ever.
You would hope that Justin misses a last second shot to win the game to make a few bucks?? unnatural carnal knowledge that. Go MU!
Eh. I've bet against MU plenty of times, but I have a few cappers I get picks from, and it's more like investing in the market than anything else. I losely check it daily, and I'm pretty confident that over time on sports betting I'll hit about 54-56%. It never effects who I root for. I've never trusted my own plays for pregame bets...but I do turn a slight profit, and have a ton of fun, live betting basketball.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2022, 07:24:01 AM
KenPom has The Dence 70 MUBB 68
Yeah...there are guys who still make some $ on ken pom vs the books. It's 99% first half totals and in really low level conferences. Covid has made those plays much more difficult.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 29, 2022, 09:53:06 PM
Who's Doc and do his picks hold a lick of value?
Is he an ALM surgeon?
docspicks and all the others are online sports betting services. many of them will give you a free abbreviated summary of many games as a marketing device to get one to subscribe to their more in depth analyses of games. i use many of them as a cumulative adjunct to place some bets. as for your snark, i'm sure he is for ALL lives as ALL people should be
rocket
Is that Doc from the Madison area? If yes, he is a great guy.
I have MU +2.5 and the ML.
If you are new to betting...Follow @70percentclub on twitter...he audits twitter cappers and follows profitable cappers that are proven over time. It's a good place to start.
Quote from: Goose on January 30, 2022, 08:02:32 AM
rocket
Is that Doc from the Madison area? If yes, he is a great guy.
not sure where they are based out of, but they have a whole team of guys you can either subscribe separately or provide different points of view. some have their sub-specialties. there is a service out of madison however that i have subscribed to on and off called ASA(american sports analysts) run by mike merlet and lee someone. i have spoken with mike a number of times and he is a great guy. these services can be pretty good or ??? they have their good days and their bad days like most, but the amount of info they use is crazy. within ASA, there are a number of guys they also use and provide separate services that one may specialize or do better in than another
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2022, 07:24:01 AM
KenPom has The Dence 70 MUBB 68
I know you're just passing along information, Unk, so please don't take this as shootin' the messenger. But ...
What did kenpom have as the scores of the Providence game, both Seton Hall games, the Nova game and the home X game?
Methinks kenpom has had a lot of trouble figuring out our Marquette Warrior Eagles, and I'll take yet another before-tipoff defeat as a sign we're gonna win, maybe in a rout.
Thank goodness we actually play the games!!
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: MU82 on January 30, 2022, 08:47:49 AM
I know you're just passing along information, Unk, so please don't take this as shootin' the messenger. But ...
What did kenpom have as the scores of the Providence game, both Seton Hall games, the Nova game and the home X game?
Methinks kenpom has had a lot of trouble figuring out our Marquette Warrior Eagles, and I'll take yet another before-tipoff defeat as a sign we're gonna win, maybe in a rout.
Thank goodness we actually play the games!!
We Are Marquette!
We know exactly how accurate Ken Pom is...the answer is not all that accurate...but more accurate than anyone else in the world.
Quote from: MU82 on January 30, 2022, 08:47:49 AM
I know you're just passing along information, Unk, so please don't take this as shootin' the messenger. But ...
What did kenpom have as the scores of the Providence game, both Seton Hall games, the Nova game and the home X game?
Methinks kenpom has had a lot of trouble figuring out our Marquette Warrior Eagles, and I'll take yet another before-tipoff defeat as a sign we're gonna win, maybe in a rout.
Thank goodness we actually play the games!!
We Are Marquette!
He's not predicting anything. That's what the numbers are predicting and that's pretty much a toss-up number on his site.
He has Marquette figured out pretty well, too. They've risen steadily over the last month and his numbers have matched up with what our eyes show us.
It's a conference road game against a projected tourney team. I'd say it's spot-on as a prediction goes.
But that's why they play the games. I'd bet the other way on this one and take the Quette
kenpom may be very similar to odds shark as they are mainly a numbers thing. right now they list MU as winning 73.6-68.8. so if you are a numbers guy only, MU will win, cover the spread and the total will go over. you make the call. what it doesn't take into consideration are some of the nuance things like oh...intra team turmoil, one player sleeping with anothers main squeeze or oversleeping, waking up with a king size hangover er sumpin ;)
Reeves to come off the bench. If he's healthy he definitely changes spacing of PC. Interested to see if it matters or changes our defensive strategy
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2022, 09:16:01 AM
He's not predicting anything. That's what the numbers are predicting and that's pretty much a toss-up number on his site.
He has Marquette figured out pretty well, too. They've risen steadily over the last month and his numbers have matched up with what our eyes show us.
It's a conference road game against a projected tourney team. I'd say it's spot-on as a prediction goes.
But that's why they play the games. I'd bet the other way on this one and take the Quette
Thanks for the explainer.
I guess I get my hackles up a bit when folks go into a game (or season) looking at kenpom or torvik and act like those services are gospel. Not saying that's you.
I wouldn't bet on this one (or any of them really), but I'm looking forward to beating the not just the spread again, and not just the kenpom numbers again, but also the opponent again. The Marqu's gonna whup The Provi!
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 29, 2022, 11:04:45 PM
I would never ever put myself in a position to cheer for the team playing Marquette. Ever.
You would hope that Justin misses a last second shot to win the game to make a few bucks?? unnatural carnal knowledge that. Go MU!
No..I'd 100% be rooting for Justin to hit the last second shot, and for us to win...as I don't care about losing a few bucks on a bet! However, if we lose, as I'd mentioned it's a consolation prize. I'll be bummed if we lose, but if I win $50..well...it's not as bad as losing and winning nothing.
That aside, I'm going with MU now +2.5 for just a $50 wager. I've won a lot on MU the last 6 games, just feels as though at some point we'll have a bit of a clunker.
Quote from: MU82 on January 30, 2022, 11:06:07 AM
Thanks for the explainer.
I guess I get my hackles up a bit when folks go into a game (or season) looking at kenpom or torvik and act like those services are gospel. Not saying that's you.
I wouldn't bet on this one (or any of them really), but I'm looking forward to beating the not just the spread again, and not just the kenpom numbers again, but also the opponent again. The Marqu's gonna whup The Provi!
I think most people that use those sites understand they're not gospel but are a pretty good indicator about a team. The game matchups that are as close as this one are basically saying it's a tossup.
Wow..to escape with a win on Providence intentionally missing FTs and cover at 2.5. Takes the sting off a little.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 30, 2022, 01:40:22 PM
Wow..to escape with a win on Providence intentionally missing FTs and cover at 2.5. Takes the sting off a little.
No it doesn't.
Elon
I was 2x more on the game than money line and feel I should donate the winnings to charity.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2022, 11:08:36 AM
I think most people that use those sites understand they're not gospel but are a pretty good indicator about a team. The game matchups that are as close as this one are basically saying it's a tossup.
For the first time in awhile in a Marquette game, they were right today. Unfortunately.
Quote from: MU82 on January 30, 2022, 02:57:16 PM
For the first time in awhile in a Marquette game, they were right today. Unfortunately.
The Marq' had their chances today. Tough loss but good battle. Learn, live and get ready for Nova
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2022, 03:04:52 PM
The Marq' had their chances today. Tough loss but good battle. Learn, live and get ready for Nova
Yessir, Unk. I'm ready!
Quote from: BLM on January 30, 2022, 01:53:07 PM
No it doesn't.
Guess you didn't take MU +2.5
Sorry.
The under was the right play
Quote from: DoctorV on January 30, 2022, 11:12:09 PM
The under was the right play
Yep..you were right on about that one..nice call.