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Title: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 11:03:14 AM
Just got MU +13.5 on Sportsbook.ag.  What are others thoughts on this game/line?  I like MU +13.5, but didn't go too heavy on the wager.  Just $100.  Did also throw $25 on MU on the Moneyline +670 which would = $167 win.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: dgies9156 on January 19, 2022, 11:15:09 AM
Somebody didn't get the message after Quad 1 wins against Seton Hall and Providence!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Goose on January 19, 2022, 11:18:52 AM
Elon

I am in on both as well.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: brewcity77 on January 19, 2022, 11:23:01 AM
Villanova is 42-1 in Big East games at the Finn since 2013-14. It's the toughest conference road game in the country, bar none. Further, they are really good at defending pick and roll, which is main focal point of our offense, so it's not just tough from a venue perspective but also from a matchup perspective. Their weakness is offensive rebounding and dealing with athletic scoring guards, neither of which are strengths of ours. Basically what we do well, they know how to stop, and what you need to do to beat them isn't what we do well.

If you want a reason for optimism, in the past two years (on the calendar) the two toughest road conference venues are Kansas at Phog Allen and Villanova at the Finn. The two teams are a combined 32-1 in home games. That 1 loss? Shaka Smart and Texas won at Kansas last year.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: NCMUFan on January 19, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Hoping for a non-UCLA, St. Bonnies, Wiscy type game and more like the other 15 games.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 19, 2022, 11:49:15 AM
I’m also in for $50 but stupidly didn’t wait and bet last night at -12.5. 
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: NCMUFan on January 19, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
The only game that MU would not have made Score Point Differential +13.5 points is the St. Bonnies game.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MDMU04 on January 19, 2022, 12:38:05 PM
This feels like a game that Nova covers.  The Pavilion is a house of horrors.

For reference, the point spread on last year's game in Philly was Villanova -11.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 12:42:10 PM
This feels like a game that Nova covers.  The Pavilion is a house of horrors.

For reference, the point spread on last year's game in Philly was Villanova -11.

Comparing a Shaka coached team to a Wojo coached team renders last year's result immaterial.  Could MU lose by more than 13?  Sure.  Will they lose by 32 tonight like last year's team?  I'd be shocked...and highly disappointed.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MDMU04 on January 19, 2022, 12:55:27 PM
Comparing a Shaka coached team to a Wojo coached team renders last year's result immaterial.  Could MU lose by more than 13?  Sure.  Will they lose by 32 tonight like last year's team?  I'd be shocked...and highly disappointed.

I would take an MU team coached by Shaka over an MU team coached by Wojo 100 times out of 100. 

This team - with an objectively better in-game coach - is a bigger underdog in this game than last year's team by 3 points.

I think Nova wins by 15-20 points.  I would absolutely LOVE to be wrong.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: BM1090 on January 19, 2022, 12:56:13 PM
Staying away. Nova is the exact team that gives MU trouble. Hoping to be wrong.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 19, 2022, 01:13:53 PM
The points intrigue me.  I can see us being within 10 points with 4 minutes to go.  However once you get late in the game with fouling and risking taking defense that can balloon to 15 easy.

Just does not feel like a lock at +13.5.  If you reverse that line based on a home game it would be +5.5.  I think I would take Marquette and the 5.5 points at home.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: #UnleashSean on January 19, 2022, 01:19:22 PM
I want to bet that spread big time. I don't think Marquette loses by double digits. But on the other hand Wojo has me scared that Marquette always falls flat when they are on the cusp of being relative again.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: IL Warrior on January 19, 2022, 01:33:49 PM
13.5 may seem like a huge number, but consider the outcomes of Villanova's home games this season:

11/9 vs Mount St. Mary's (-25.5)
W 91-51 (W by 40: ATS W)

11/16 vs Howard (-29.5)
W 100-81 (W by 19: ATS L)

12/4 vs Saint Joseph's (-22)
W 81-52 (W by 29: ATS W)

12/21 vs Xavier (-5.5)
W 71-58 (W by 13: ATS W)

1/5 vs Creighton (-10.5)
W 75-41 (W by 34: ATS W)

1/16 vs Butler (-15)
W 82-42 (W by 40: ATS W)

6-0 overall, 5-1 ATS, 29pt average margin of victory, covering the spread by an average of 11. Villanova has been unstoppable at home. Xavier has been the only team to lose by less than 19 at Villanova this year, and even they lost by 13.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2022, 01:38:47 PM
This is not a dis of Marquette.   It is an acknowledgment that Villanova is really good at home.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: 79Warrior on January 19, 2022, 02:28:50 PM
Just got MU +13.5 on Sportsbook.ag.  What are others thoughts on this game/line?  I like MU +13.5, but didn't go too heavy on the wager.  Just $100.  Did also throw $25 on MU on the Moneyline +670 which would = $167 win.

Moneyline is the bet. Nice payday.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: TheREALwrk on January 19, 2022, 02:39:56 PM
Got MU +14.

Let's win!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 04:27:48 PM
13.5 may seem like a huge number, but consider the outcomes of Villanova's home games this season:

11/9 vs Mount St. Mary's (-25.5)
W 91-51 (W by 40: ATS W)

11/16 vs Howard (-29.5)
W 100-81 (W by 19: ATS L)

12/4 vs Saint Joseph's (-22)
W 81-52 (W by 29: ATS W)

12/21 vs Xavier (-5.5)
W 71-58 (W by 13: ATS W)

1/5 vs Creighton (-10.5)
W 75-41 (W by 34: ATS W)

1/16 vs Butler (-15)
W 82-42 (W by 40: ATS W)

6-0 overall, 5-1 ATS, 29pt average margin of victory, covering the spread by an average of 11. Villanova has been unstoppable at home. Xavier has been the only team to lose by less than 19 at Villanova this year, and even they lost by 13.

This is some good (and concerning) info as it relates to my ber on MU. Pomroy adjusts for everything and we still are -12 in his projection. I’m still banking on the more recent trend of MU and our team jelling more as they continue to learn how to play together.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: DienerTime34 on January 19, 2022, 04:35:11 PM
Good luck to the bettors tonight. My prediction is MU battles their ass off for 35 minutes in what is mostly a 7-8 point deficit, then the wheels come off at the end & Nova covers.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2022, 04:37:23 PM
This line is more about how dominant Nova has been the last 6 games.  4 double-digit wins and a sweep of Xavier.

I don’t see it as insulting to Marquette as the game is in Philly.  It’s an opportunity for Marquette to make a big statement.  Do so, and you won’t see a line like that again this year
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2022, 05:18:17 PM
This line is more about how dominant Nova has been the last 6 games.  4 double-digit wins and a sweep of Xavier.

I don’t see it as insulting to Marquette as the game is in Philly.  It’s an opportunity for Marquette to make a big statement.  Do so, and you won’t see a line like that again this year
Good points. I see a 20 pt. loss but still excited about Shaka. A win is a real game changer.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MU82 on January 19, 2022, 05:21:07 PM
Obviously, I'm not objective when it comes to Marquette ... but that's a ton of freakin' points against a pretty darn good team that seems to have figured out a few things.

I don't look at it as an insult at all. I look at it as an opportunity!

Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: BM1090 on January 19, 2022, 05:44:35 PM
No expectations for tonight. Keep it within 20 so it doesn’t hurt the metrics too much. If they play a close one I’d be thrilled. Or if they somehow pull off an upset…punch that dance card.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 19, 2022, 05:58:24 PM
Shaka's got the boys amped. Kicking Nova's asses tonight.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: We R Final Four on January 19, 2022, 05:58:55 PM
What’s the O/U on Gillespie drawing a charge on a JLew in the block? 0.5? I’d take that over.
I’d take Nova as a team Over 2.5 charges drawn…..if there were such a bet.
Strongly dislike that style of play.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 09:09:22 PM
Goose - We cleaned up on this one!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Goose on January 19, 2022, 09:10:46 PM
Elon

A very nice bonus tonight. I’ll make sure to spend some of the money at FF on Sunday.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: BM1090 on January 19, 2022, 09:11:40 PM
Well I’ll be damned.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MU82 on January 19, 2022, 09:17:13 PM
Good job, Ners, Goose and anybody else who bet on our guys. Opportunity!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MDMU04 on January 19, 2022, 09:18:29 PM
So damn happy to be wrong!!!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Herman Cain on January 19, 2022, 09:22:33 PM
Just got MU +13.5 on Sportsbook.ag.  What are others thoughts on this game/line?  I like MU +13.5, but didn't go too heavy on the wager.  Just $100.  Did also throw $25 on MU on the Moneyline +670 which would = $167 win.
You won both bets and the team won, doesn't get any better than that.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: We R Final Four on January 19, 2022, 09:27:59 PM
Good job, Ners, Goose and anybody else who bet on our guys. Opportunity!
MU +7 at half
+14
ML
MU at half and final
Boom!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 19, 2022, 09:29:41 PM
MU +7 at half
+14
ML
MU at half and final
Boom!

To be more specific,  that's Boom-SHAKA-laka!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 19, 2022, 09:33:16 PM
Vegas is poorer tonight
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 19, 2022, 09:35:58 PM
Making some money off MU this year.  Hope the books keep underestimating us!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 19, 2022, 09:36:42 PM
Vegas is poorer tonight

Since most casual sports bettors overwhelmingly bet favorites Las Vegas LOVES MU tonight!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 09:49:43 PM
MU +7 at half
+14
ML
MU at half and final
Boom!

Did you bet all those?  Congrats if so!   That's awesome.

Good job, Ners, Goose and anybody else who bet on our guys. Opportunity!

Thanks 82.  Did you wager as your comments pregame were bullish/optimistic..
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: We R Final Four on January 19, 2022, 10:02:37 PM
Yes sir.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 19, 2022, 10:03:35 PM
Congrats on the extra cash fellas!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MU82 on January 19, 2022, 10:06:16 PM
Thanks 82.  Did you wager as your comments pregame were bullish/optimistic..

I get too damn nervous watching these games as it is. I'd be a wreck if I had money on 'em. I'm not the biggest wagerer, anyway ... except on the crazy stock market.

Great call by you, Goose and WRFF. Thrilled to see y'all cash in!

And no, I wasn't shocked by this outcome. I thought we'd be, like 6-7 point underdogs. When I saw 12.5 ... then 13.5 ... then 14 ... I was like, "Aw hell no!"
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Goose on January 19, 2022, 10:08:26 PM
82

The Warriors are looking pretty good.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 10:08:44 PM
Yes sir.

That's awesome!  Was the +1000 on the first half ML?
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 10:11:11 PM
I get too damn nervous watching these games as it is. I'd be a wreck if I had money on 'em. I'm not the biggest wagerer, anyway ... except on the crazy stock market.

Great call by you, Goose and WRFF. Thrilled to see y'all cash in!

And no, I wasn't shocked by this outcome. I thought we'd be, like 6-7 point underdogs. When I saw 12.5 ... then 13.5 ... then 14 ... I was like, "Aw hell no!"

LOL...I dropped more F'bombs during this game than I recall in a long time during an MU game..not so much from the gambling perspective but from caring so much about us stealing a win at Nova.  In some ways it was
"easier" being an MU fan once I'd grown apathetic. 
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 19, 2022, 10:11:14 PM
EZ money.

Almost as easy as Iowa +1 back in 2015
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: We R Final Four on January 19, 2022, 10:12:00 PM
That was Mu win half/MU win final.
Not a lot of $ but a good value as DD says.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: DegenerateDish on January 19, 2022, 10:24:07 PM
Great job guys, hope everyone made a ton of $!

I got kidney stones at lunch time today, just back from ER, the win and you guys cashing tickets has made me feel better!
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: MU82 on January 19, 2022, 10:54:38 PM
Last April, one of my poker buddies went to New Jersey and came back with a bunch of gifts: $5 tickets for bets he placed. One for the guy who went to Michigan State, one for the UNC guy, one for the App State guy, and so on. Obviously, I got the Marquette betting slip.

I have that ticket sitting on my bookshelf with my Jimmy Butler bobblehead, the photo of me and my wife at the NCAAT win over Miami, and various other MU nick-nacks.

If we win the title, I get $1,505! (We were 300-to-1 dogs.)

The guy who bought the ticket just sent me an email saying: "Congrats to Marquette with a victory over @Villanova tonight!!!!! If you cash that ticket, you better be takin' us all out for a big-time party!"

I responded: "What do you mean, 'If'?!?!?!"
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 19, 2022, 11:04:19 PM
Last April, one of my poker buddies went to New Jersey and came back with a bunch of gifts: $5 tickets for bets he placed. One for the guy who went to Michigan State, one for the UNC guy, one for the App State guy, and so on. Obviously, I got the Marquette betting slip.

I have that ticket sitting on my bookshelf with my Jimmy Butler bobblehead, the photo of me and my wife at the NCAAT win over Miami, and various other MU nick-nacks.

If we win the title, I get $1,505! (We were 300-to-1 dogs.)

The guy who bought the ticket just sent me an email saying: "Congrats to Marquette with a victory over @Villanova tonight!!!!! If you cash that ticket, you better be takin' us all out for a big-time party!"

I responded: "What do you mean, 'If'?!?!?!"

Thanks for the reminder..I just took the flier on MU to win the title for 200:1.  A random $39 wager.  My site will offer a bettor the ability to "cash out" on a futures bet if it starts to appear a possibility.  So..IF MU could advance to the Elite 8, the site likely would offer me 30:1 odds to cash out of it.
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 24, 2022, 11:19:58 AM
Thanks for the reminder..I just took the flier on MU to win the title for 200:1.  A random $39 wager.  My site will offer a bettor the ability to "cash out" on a futures bet if it starts to appear a possibility.  So..IF MU could advance to the Elite 8, the site likely would offer me 30:1 odds to cash out of it.

FYI - MU has gone from 200 to 1 to win the Natty on January 19 to now 80 to 1 at my online gambling site Sportbook.ag
Title: Re: MU +13.5 vs Nova
Post by: We R Final Four on January 24, 2022, 12:48:28 PM
FYI - MU has gone from 200 to 1 to win the Natty on January 19 to now 80 to 1 at my online gambling site Sportbook.ag
I threw a little bit on the natty at 180:1 a few weeks back.