I'm gonna go with G-1..... but maybe Scoopers think Goodfellas or another option? I have never understood why some people think Carlo shouldn't have been whacked? I vehemently disagree. :)
Goodfellas. No contest.
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 18, 2021, 08:36:03 PM
Goodfellas. No contest.
What brings you to this conclusion? The Lufthansa Heist scenes or when Pesci got mad at Billy Batts?
The Godfather is way better than Goodfellas. And I love Goodfellas. It's just that The Godfather is a top five movie of all time.
1. Godfather 1
2. The Departed
3. Goodfellas
That's it
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 18, 2021, 08:51:42 PM
The Godfather is way better than Goodfellas. And I love Goodfellas. It's just that The Godfather is a top five movie of all time.
I'm with you FBM. And I assume you are a Clemenza fan and had no issues with him overseeing/whacking Paulie and Carlo? We also can't forget "Enzo the Baker". He played a key role with regards to Sollozzo and McCluskey. :)
I mean look at this scene. The lighting. The sounds. It's damn near perfect.
https://youtu.be/VBl_gvTBO9g
Brando in this scene...
https://youtu.be/KxM1nreZdYc
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 18, 2021, 09:04:53 PM
I mean look at this scene. The lighting. The sounds. It's damn near perfect.
https://youtu.be/VBl_gvTBO9g
Brando in this scene...
https://youtu.be/KxM1nreZdYc
Two tremendous scenes! Virgil Sollozzo did not anticipate the ultimate result of Michael taking a leak.
The departed? Easy.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 08:47:38 PM
What brings you to this conclusion? The Lufthansa Heist scenes or when Pesci got mad at Billy Batts?
Morrry getting an ice pick rammed into his eardrum when he thinks he's "goin ta da dinah" is the essence of Goodfellas.
Casino
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 18, 2021, 09:37:10 PM
Morrry getting an ice pick rammed into his eardrum when he thinks he's "goin ta da dinah" is the essence of Goodfellas.
Fair point. And his wigs were able to handle hurricane winds. But I'm still gonna disagree with you DTD.
In my background (Irish) there's a saying that there are two kinds of Irish-----lace curtain Irish and shanty Irish. And the connotations are just as you'd think they are.
I always viewed Godfather as kind of the "lace curtain" story of the Mob, whereas Goodfellas was the more blue collar version------closer to the street, rawer. More violence.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 18, 2021, 08:51:42 PM
The Godfather is way better than Goodfellas. And I love Goodfellas. It's just that The Godfather is a top five movie of all time.
The Godfather isn't even the best Godfather movie.
1. Goodfellas
2. Godfather 2
3. Godfather
4. Miller's Crossing
5 (tie) Casino
Untouchables
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 18, 2021, 09:54:55 PM
In my background (Irish) there's a saying that there are two kinds of Irish-----lace curtain Irish and shanty Irish. And the connotations are just as you'd think they are.
I always viewed Godfather as kind of the "lace curtain" story of the Mob, whereas Goodfellas was the more blue collar version------closer to the street, rawer. More violence.
I think that's fair but these are two separate and distinct stories. We all know you have a little Pesci in you when you get upset. :)
I would definitely put A Bronx Tale in my top 5.
Before I forget, I'm going to give an honorable mention to Donnie Brasco.
By the end, I was actually sympathizing with Pacino
Maybe not the best, but I liked Donnie Brasco.
Edit: Yes, DTD
Would The Usual Suspects be considered a mob flick? I'll defer to the experts.
Oh...did we forget about Reservoir Dogs?
Quote from: Pakuni on August 18, 2021, 10:21:08 PM
The Godfather isn't even the best Godfather movie.
1. Goodfellas
2. Godfather 2
3. Godfather
4. Miller's Crossing
5 (tie) Casino
Untouchables
I actually don't like Godfather 2 much.
Best Mob film?
I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 18, 2021, 10:21:08 PM
The Godfather isn't even the best Godfather movie.
1. Goodfellas
2. Godfather 2
3. Godfather
4. Miller's Crossing
5 (tie) Casino
Untouchables
Was waiting for someone to say this. Its aged remarkably well and its got a couple incredible performances from heavy hitters. Love that movie. The scene in the train station with Costner, Andy Garcia, and the baby carriage is all time.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 10:55:25 PM
Would The Usual Suspects be considered a mob flick? I'll defer to the experts.
I'd say no. Crime/organized crime, sure. But not a mob film.
The Departed.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 10:57:12 PM
Oh...did we forget about Reservoir Dogs?
Like The Usual Suspects, I'd call this a crime movie, but not a mob movie.
Casino if we're counting that as a mob movie. That last scene where Pesci's voice over cuts off as he gets beat was brutal, but an incredible scene.
Surprised by the love for The Departed--good movie that is nowhere near the level of the others.
1. Godfather
2. Goodfellas
3. Godfather 2
Quote from: drewm88 on August 19, 2021, 02:04:21 PM
Surprised by the love for The Departed--good movie that is nowhere near the level of the others.
1. Godfather
2. Goodfellas
3. Godfather 2
The Departed is one of my least favorite Scorsese movies. I though the Irishaman was far superior
1. Godfather 2
2. Goodfellas
3. Untouchables
4. Godfather
5. Boyz in the Hood
6. Casino
7. A Bronx Tale
8. The Departed
9. Scarface
10. Once Upon a Time in America
Road to Perdition
Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 19, 2021, 02:17:50 PM
The Departed is one of my least favorite Scorsese movies. I though the Irishaman was far superior
Maybe if the Irishman was half as long. I was underwhelmed but I think that was largely related to how much it dragged on. The casting was also a miss. It's not the 80s or 90s anymore. Those guys were far too old to be believable
Quote from: JWags85 on August 19, 2021, 06:42:53 PM
Maybe if the Irishman was half as long. I was underwhelmed but I think that was largely related to how much it dragged on. The casting was also a miss. It's not the 80s or 90s anymore. Those guys were far too old to be believable
I don't disagree with the last part. It was definitely a last waltz feel to it.
I think what Scorsese was going for was using Deniro's character as a rebuke to those who glorify the gangsters of his previous films. He was sad and alone in the end with these far-fetched stories and a pathetic figure desperate for attention. Dudes love Goodfellas and it's a great film but I think the point is often missed. Death amd prison are always around the corner and in the end, you stand alone, often without your family and friends
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 19, 2021, 03:49:48 PM
Road to Perdition
Hard no for me on RTP. Some decent performances, especially Daniel Craig, but way too contrived imo. I thought it fizzled after showing decent potential early in the film.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 19, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
Like The Usual Suspects, I'd call this a crime movie, but not a mob movie.
Mob movies - or just movies with mob-centric plots?
On the Waterfront
The Sting
Some Like it Hot
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 18, 2021, 10:55:25 PM
Would The Usual Suspects be considered a mob flick? I'll defer to the experts.
Crime or heist movie, not a mob flick. If it were, it would be my #1, but it's not.
For me it's Goodfellas. I really liked the Godfather movies when I was young, but the pacing is just too slow for me now. That's more an indictment of the era they were made. There's just not much from the 1970s I have the patience for anymore.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 20, 2021, 05:51:24 PM
Crime or heist movie, not a mob flick. If it were, it would be my #1, but it's not.
For me it's Goodfellas. I really liked the Godfather movies when I was young, but the pacing is just too slow for me now. That's more an indictment of the era they were made. There's just not much from the 1970s I have the patience for anymore.
I completely disagree. There's not a scene in G1 that isn't outstanding. The length of a film has nothing to do with its pacing. I think you are disrespecting Clemenza and to a degree Vito Corleone. :)
Quote from: Retire0 on August 19, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
1. Godfather 2
2. Goodfellas
3. Untouchables
4. Godfather
5. Boyz in the Hood
6. Casino
7. A Bronx Tale
8. The Departed
9. Scarface
10. Once Upon a Time in America
Shouts on the call for Boyz in the Hood, the term "mob" can evolve, and this certainly a great one.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 20, 2021, 05:51:24 PM
Crime or heist movie, not a mob flick. If it were, it would be my #1, but it's not.
For me it's Goodfellas. I really liked the Godfather movies when I was young, but the pacing is just too slow for me now. That's more an indictment of the era they were made. There's just not much from the 1970s I have the patience for anymore.
Not to knock your opinion, which is totally fine, but many in the critic/cinephile world consider the 70s the Golden Age of American film.
Quote from: Pakuni on August 20, 2021, 07:06:58 PM
Not to knock your opinion, which is totally fine, but many in the critic/cinephile world consider the 70s the Golden Age of American film.
I know. I just can't get there. Maybe it's because I'm not as patient as I once was, but I think the medium has been significantly improved on since then. Not just technologically but also from a storytelling perspective. It amazes me when I watch many movies from that time at how dull they are. They just don't hold my attention. I guess welcome to the 20s for me.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 21, 2021, 06:50:52 AM
I know. I just can't get there. Maybe it's because I'm not as patient as I once was, but I think the medium has been significantly improved on since then. Not just technologically but also from a storytelling perspective. It amazes me when I watch many movies from that time at how dull they are. They just don't hold my attention. I guess welcome to the 20s for me.
Technologically things have gotten better but stories haven't. There are very few great films nowadays and not a lot of creativity. The best stuff is on TV.
Quote from: MuggsyB on August 21, 2021, 08:14:39 AM
Technologically things have gotten better but stories haven't. There are very few great films nowadays and not a lot of creativity. The best stuff is on TV.
I agree with this. Movie storytelling is pretty poor nowadays. The visuals are far superior but sometimes less green screen and more cinematography goes a long way
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 21, 2021, 06:50:52 AM
I know. I just can't get there. Maybe it's because I'm not as patient as I once was, but I think the medium has been significantly improved on since then. Not just technologically but also from a storytelling perspective. It amazes me when I watch many movies from that time at how dull they are. They just don't hold my attention. I guess welcome to the 20s for me.
At least back then, 90 percent of the movies weren't based on comic book characters.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 21, 2021, 12:53:11 PM
At least back then, 90 percent of the movies weren't based on comic book characters.
Speaking of, I'd add Road to Perdition and A History of Violence as recent mob movies that were good. Both Mortenson and Hanks gave an excellent alternative on what is typically an Italian genre.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 21, 2021, 06:14:12 PM
Speaking of, I'd add Road to Perdition and A History of Violence as recent mob movies that were good. Both Mortenson and Hanks gave an excellent alternative on what is typically an Italian genre.
Speaking of Viggo, Eastern Promises just missed my top 5.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 21, 2021, 06:50:52 AM
I know. I just can't get there. Maybe it's because I'm not as patient as I once was, but I think the medium has been significantly improved on since then. Not just technologically but also from a storytelling perspective. It amazes me when I watch many movies from that time at how dull they are. They just don't hold my attention. I guess welcome to the 20s for me.
So I just re-watched the Godfather on a flight this weekend. Had been meaning to and this thread reminded me.
Obviously its an incredible story, there is incredible acting and performances, but for a legendary movie by a legendary director...when viewed currently, parts of it are HORRIBLE. When Sonny beats up Carlo in the street, there are 2-3 different punches that are blatant whiffs, you can see blank space clear as day.
The classic Moe Greene shot? The blood is awful and he gently lays his head down like he's taking a nap.
There are a bunch of other weird quirky sound things and almost every gunshot/reaction is terrible.
Its still an enjoyable movie, the story is timeless and gripping, but there are at least 5 "crime" movies made a year that are better and more enjoyable to watch from a cinematography, effects, and polish standpoint.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 23, 2021, 10:47:21 AM
Its still an enjoyable movie, the story is timeless and gripping, but there are at least 5 "crime" movies made a year that are better and more enjoyable to watch from a cinematography, effects, and polish standpoint.
co mają z tym wspólnego Polacy?
Quote from: JWags85 on August 23, 2021, 10:47:21 AM
Its still an enjoyable movie, the story is timeless and gripping, but there are at least 5 "crime" movies made a year that are better and more enjoyable to watch from a cinematography, effects, and polish standpoint.
I also watched The Godfather again fairly recently -- first time in decades -- and I agree.
But of course, the same can be said of lots and lots of movies from years gone by. I mean, the special effects in Star Wars suck when using what we see in any decent sci-fi flick now. The big fight in Rocky? Ugh. Etc, etc, etc.
I do know what you're saying, though. For a movie considered one of the greatest films ever made, the "action" leaves a lot to be desired.
Quote from: MU82 on August 23, 2021, 01:10:43 PM
I also watched The Godfather again fairly recently -- first time in decades -- and I agree.
But of course, the same can be said of lots and lots of movies from years gone by. I mean, the special effects in Star Wars suck when using what we see in any decent sci-fi flick now. The big fight in Rocky? Ugh. Etc, etc, etc.
I do know what you're saying, though. For a movie considered one of the greatest films ever made, the "action" leaves a lot to be desired.
I recently watched Wizard of Oz with my niece and nephew. Talk about your lame special effects....
Quote from: warriorchick on August 23, 2021, 03:20:20 PM
I recently watched Wizard of Oz with my niece and nephew. Talk about your lame special effects....
Need mushrooms and DSOTM, tbf.
Quote from: lawdog77 on August 23, 2021, 01:01:47 PM
co mają z tym wspólnego Polacy?
One of my favorite social media gags was sharing a picture of an item in my wife's nail care basket. I pointed out how the "Polish remover" was a clear attempt to get rid of me. ;D