Here's a 25 year old question. Who was the future NBA player who wanted to go to Marquette when Mike Deane was the coach and Deane said no? My memory is the player's family had a MU connection and the father reached out to Deane and Deane said the player wasn't good enough. Player goes on to be bad ass college player and go to NBA.
I want to say Wally Szerbiak or Chris Mihm? Anyone else remember this?
Pretty sure it was Wally
It was Wally. Deane took John Polonowski instead. Oops.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on June 14, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
It was Wally. Deane took John Polonowski instead. Oops.
All good in the end. Wally cashes in the NBA and we get rid of Deane sooner rather than later.
Quote from: avid1010 on June 14, 2021, 07:49:59 AM
All good in the end. Wally cashes in the NBA and we get rid of Deane sooner rather than later.
It definitely worked out in the long run. Crean, Wade, Big East...lots of dominoes fell into place.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on June 14, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
It was Wally. Deane took John Polonowski instead. Oops.
Side note: Polo is a great dude.
Anyone remember the detail about how Deane said no? I think the dad called Deane and Deane laughed him off? Deane was probably nursing a wicked hangover from being at Hegarty's until 2 am so his judgment was cloudy.
I was talking to a Miami Ohio alumn the other day and telling him the story and I was pretty sure it was Wally and he didn't believe me. So wanted to nail down the details.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on June 14, 2021, 07:05:59 AM
I want to say Wally Szerbiak or Chris Mihm? Anyone else remember this?
Chris Mihm's dad played tennis at Marquette. I conflated stories. Forgive me, I'm getting old. I'm even old enough to have been a Marquette Warrior!
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on June 14, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
It was Wally. Deane took John Polonowski instead. Oops.
Yeah, if true a huge oooooops.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on June 14, 2021, 08:04:29 AM
It definitely worked out in the long run. Crean, Wade, Big East...lots of dominoes fell into place.
You forgot a couple of dominoes after big east....Buzz, Buzz gone, Wojo, lack of success, loss of Hausrs and dumping of Wojo-Dukiet.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on June 14, 2021, 08:55:20 AM
Side note: Polo is a great dude.
Anyone remember the detail about how Deane said no? I think the dad called Deane and Deane laughed him off? Deane was probably nursing a wicked hangover from being at Hegarty's until 2 am so his judgment was cloudy.
I was talking to a Miami Ohio alumn the other day and telling him the story and I was pretty sure it was Wally and he didn't believe me. So wanted to nail down the details.
it wasn't that he "laughed" him off. Deane was higher on Polo based on Polo's HS stats (20 and 10) and Deane having recruited Polo's brother. Polo was a good dude and was in the PT school. A great representative of MU.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on June 14, 2021, 08:57:03 AM
Chris Mihm's dad played tennis at Marquette. I conflated stories. Forgive me, I'm getting old. I'm even old enough to have been a Marquette Warrior!
Mihm's grandparents also lived in Milwaukee. Deane didn't follow up on him. We got Greg Clausen instead.
Didn't Polonowski quit the team his senior year to just party? I remember seeing Polo at every party.
Side note, read in Gasaway's book that Raymonds was one of the 15 coaches that got an in person with Patrick Ewing. Never had heard that before.
Quote from: San Diego Warrior on June 14, 2021, 12:02:27 PM
Didn't Polonowski quit the team his senior year to just party? I remember seeing Polo at every party.
I don't know about that, he started 7 games and got 11 mpg as a senior (that says a lot about the team Deane left TC). I do remember him at Big Shots most of the times I went in 1997-98.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/john-polonowski-1.html
Cant validate this but I was told by a reporter that Deane offered Polo without even scouting him. He called the local reporter and asked his impression.
Quote from: Knight Commission on June 14, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
Cant validate this but I was told by a reporter that Deane offered Polo without even scouting him.
No one will doubt this.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on June 14, 2021, 08:55:20 AM
Side note: Polo is a great dude. 5-6
When I was a kid, there was a program through the Athletic Department for kids of season ticket holders where you got a gift package of some sort, but also, got matched with a student athlete pen pal. My first year I got a track athlete who was a really nice guy. Next year was a soccer player I was excited about but he only replied once in a short note which was a bummer.
I figured the basketball team was exempt due to all their other demands. Well, my last year, I got matched with a sophomore Polo. Not exactly Aaron Hutchins or Wardle, but I was amped either way. Sent an excited letter. Didn't hear anything for probably 5-6 weeks. Figured it was a lost cause. Then one day I got a letter, hand written in messy cursive, covering both sides fully of a piece of paper. It was great. I remember specifically him talking about his family and calling his brother a "dirty hippie of sorts". We exchanged probably 2-3 more letters throughout the season. Pretty awesome.
Quote from: JWags85 on June 14, 2021, 02:00:31 PM
When I was a kid, there was a program through the Athletic Department for kids of season ticket holders where you got a gift package of some sort, but also, got matched with a student athlete pen pal. My first year I got a track athlete who was a really nice guy. Next year was a soccer player I was excited about but he only replied once in a short note which was a bummer.
I figured the basketball team was exempt due to all their other demands. Well, my last year, I got matched with a sophomore Polo. Not exactly Aaron Hutchins or Wardle, but I was amped either way. Sent an excited letter. Didn't hear anything for probably 5-6 weeks. Figured it was a lost cause. Then one day I got a letter, hand written in messy cursive, covering both sides fully of a piece of paper. It was great. I remember specifically him talking about his family and calling his brother a "dirty hippie of sorts". We exchanged probably 2-3 more letters throughout the season. Pretty awesome.
I love this. It didn't cost the player anything but a very little bit of time, and he made a fan for life and created significant goodwill for the program. I mean, you're an old dude now and you're STILL calling it "pretty awesome"! Outreach like this is so valuable. I wish Marquette would still do it.
Quote from: MU82 on June 14, 2021, 02:58:05 PM
I love this. It didn't cost the player anything but a very little bit of time, and he made a fan for life and created significant goodwill for the program. I mean, you're an old dude now and you're STILL calling it "pretty awesome"! Outreach like this is so valuable. I wish Marquette would still do it.
I don't know. We've had seasons go off the rails after players have written letters.
Quote from: JWags85 on June 14, 2021, 02:00:31 PM
When I was a kid, there was a program through the Athletic Department for kids of season ticket holders where you got a gift package of some sort, but also, got matched with a student athlete pen pal. My first year I got a track athlete who was a really nice guy. Next year was a soccer player I was excited about but he only replied once in a short note which was a bummer.
I figured the basketball team was exempt due to all their other demands. Well, my last year, I got matched with a sophomore Polo. Not exactly Aaron Hutchins or Wardle, but I was amped either way. Sent an excited letter. Didn't hear anything for probably 5-6 weeks. Figured it was a lost cause. Then one day I got a letter, hand written in messy cursive, covering both sides fully of a piece of paper. It was great. I remember specifically him talking about his family and calling his brother a "dirty hippie of sorts". We exchanged probably 2-3 more letters throughout the season. Pretty awesome.
that's funny! I know his brother was a benchwarmer for Michigan State then somehow played pro in Ireland.
Polo was definitely a character. Wore 70's style glasses he got at a second-hand store (would be stylish today) and rode a little kid's bike around campus. He's a well regarded PT in Alaska now:
https://www.unitedpt.com/meet-the-staff
Quote from: MUDPT on June 14, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
Side note, read in Gasaway's book that Raymonds was one of the 15 coaches that got an in person with Patrick Ewing. Never had heard that before.
We also were runners-up to Kentucky for Sam Bowie. Who is now best known for being picked ahead of MJ.....but was a great college player before injuries took him down.
Quote from: JWags85 on June 14, 2021, 02:00:31 PM
When I was a kid, there was a program through the Athletic Department for kids of season ticket holders where you got a gift package of some sort, but also, got matched with a student athlete pen pal. My first year I got a track athlete who was a really nice guy. Next year was a soccer player I was excited about but he only replied once in a short note which was a bummer.
I figured the basketball team was exempt due to all their other demands. Well, my last year, I got matched with a sophomore Polo. Not exactly Aaron Hutchins or Wardle, but I was amped either way. Sent an excited letter. Didn't hear anything for probably 5-6 weeks. Figured it was a lost cause. Then one day I got a letter, hand written in messy cursive, covering both sides fully of a piece of paper. It was great. I remember specifically him talking about his family and calling his brother a "dirty hippie of sorts". We exchanged probably 2-3 more letters throughout the season. Pretty awesome.
And here I started this thread looking for a random bit of trivia and we come away with this gem that literally made me smile when reading. Thanks for this. It is pretty awesome.
Quote from: MU82 on June 14, 2021, 02:58:05 PM
I love this. It didn't cost the player anything but a very little bit of time, and he made a fan for life and created significant goodwill for the program. I mean, you're an old dude now and you're STILL calling it "pretty awesome"! Outreach like this is so valuable. I wish Marquette would still do it.
Totally agree. It's incredible. And now with email, it could be even easier and just as impactful. I was already obsessed with the program as a kid, but it made it even more human and personal.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on June 14, 2021, 04:03:02 PM
And here I started this thread looking for a random bit of trivia and we come away with this gem that literally made me smile when reading. Thanks for this. It is pretty awesome.
Absolutely. I'd not thought of it in awhile, it was fun to remember.
The women's team has done some of this. My daughter (10) has participated.
Quote from: MUDPT on June 14, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
Side note, read in Gasaway's book that Raymonds was one of the 15 coaches that got an in person with Patrick Ewing. Never had heard that before.
Woah that would've been crazy different
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 14, 2021, 03:27:34 PM
I don't know. We've had seasons go off the rails after players have written letters.
Almost made me do a spit-take!
Quote from: San Diego Warrior on June 14, 2021, 12:02:27 PM
Didn't Polonowski quit the team his senior year to just party? I remember seeing Polo at every party.
I think you are thinking of Jarrod Lovette. He had a rough senior season.
https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/jarrod-lovette-finds-peace-by-turning-life-over-to-god/article_8d81f93d-8d30-5200-844c-1e1d33e4d416.html
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 14, 2021, 03:27:34 PM
I don't know. We've had seasons go off the rails after players have written letters.
This post is not getting the attention it deserves.
Quote from: BallBoy on June 15, 2021, 12:54:47 AM
I think you are thinking of Jarrod Lovette. He had a rough senior season.
https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/jarrod-lovette-finds-peace-by-turning-life-over-to-god/article_8d81f93d-8d30-5200-844c-1e1d33e4d416.html
yeah, Lovette definitely didn't quit to "party." I'm glad to read he's working every day to overcome his struggles and seems to have been successful in doing so.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 15, 2021, 12:14:51 PM
yeah, Lovette definitely didn't quit to "party." I'm glad to read he's working every day to overcome his struggles and seems to have been successful in doing so.
He may not have quit to party but he spent alot of time at Murph's, the optics were not very good.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on June 14, 2021, 08:04:29 AM
It definitely worked out in the long run. Crean, Wade, Big East...lots of dominoes fell into place.
Quote from: willie warrior on June 14, 2021, 09:19:12 AM
You forgot a couple of dominoes after big east....Buzz, Buzz gone, Wojo, lack of success, loss of Hausrs and dumping of Wojo-Dukiet.
He was talking about things that you fail to recognize happening, i.e., good stuff.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 15, 2021, 12:14:51 PM
yeah, Lovette definitely didn't quit to "party." I'm glad to read he's working every day to overcome his struggles and seems to have been successful in doing so.
He didn't quit to party but sometimes what people perceive as "partying" is really a way to hide other things. He had a very challenging senior year.
Also seeing how Polo played all four years and played in the last regular season game of his senior season it doesn't sound like he quit the team.