reopening his recruitment
https://twitter.com/J0nasAid00/status/1376689558822260739?s=19 (https://twitter.com/J0nasAid00/status/1376689558822260739?s=19)
Well that sucks.
Aidieu Aidoo.
Aidios, hey?
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/rivals-roundtable-rankings-remembering-2021-cycle-commit-fits
Shame, he is about to make even a bigger jump in the rankings.
Didn't Scoop intelligentsia already say it was so?
Hope Shaka has Walker Kessler's number.
It sucks but was to be expected. Hopefully he still considers MU moving forward. Either way, we are in dire need of help all over the court next year, including the 5
Bummer. Hope Shaka can convince him otherwise.
This one hurts but in Shaka I trust
sucks to lose him, big time potential.
if we're truly gonna pick up the pressure like shaka wants, i think dawson and justin will cover most of the center minutes anyways. we need more athletic wings, not bigs.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 29, 2021, 07:28:01 PM
Hope Shaka has Walker Kessler's number.
Gonzaga sounds like the early favorite for him. Michigan was also squarely in the mix at one time.
Probably opens a path for David Jopin
MU has 1 guard that's going to be a junior......Carton, who's turnover prone. We need perimeter help more than anything right now
Next one up
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2021, 07:31:12 PM
Gonzaga sounds like the early favorite for him. Michigan was also squarely in the mix at one time.
Probably opens a path for David Jopin
Joplin is not a big, he is more of a 3/4.
Best of luck to this young man, he knows what is best for him and he needs to pursue that path.
Some very fortunate person now gets to play for Marquette.
Well, that was Gaineys guy. Looks like he didn't get it done. Time to let him go too now and clean house.
Aidoo committed to MU after the November signing period. Those kind of commitments are always subject to re-trading. This is because the kid has another 5 months to think about it. In the meantime, the other coaches keep calling and texting until the ink is dry on the NLI.
I think this solves a problem of having too much talent at 4/5. Osa is a potential star also and this opens up playing time for him.
A little more muscle Osa can be a glue guy that can do so many things well but does not need to be the focal point of the offense either.
Quote from: duanewade on March 29, 2021, 07:50:42 PM
I think this solves a problem of having too much talent at 4/5. Osa is a potential star also and this opens up playing time for him.
A little more muscle Osa can be a glue guy that can do so many things well but does not need to be the focal point of the offense either.
Yeah wtf would we do with a top 60 big?
Quote from: duanewade on March 29, 2021, 07:50:42 PM
I think this solves a problem of having too much talent at 4/5. Osa is a potential star also and this opens up playing time for him.
A little more muscle Osa can be a glue guy that can do so many things well but does not need to be the focal point of the offense either.
This is some very wishful thinking
Kind of interesting given Shaka's recent history getting talented big men to the NBA
I hope Aidon't recommits and once again becomes Aidoo
It happens. Good luck, young man.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 29, 2021, 07:38:25 PM
Well, that was Gaineys guy. Looks like he didn't get it done. Time to let him go too now and clean house.
Agreed. Thank you for everything you did.
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Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2021, 07:31:12 PM
Gonzaga sounds like the early favorite for him. Michigan was also squarely in the mix at one time.
Probably opens a path for David Jopin
He can go to Gonzaga and compete with Chet Holmgren and possibly Drew Timme for minutes.
He can go to Michigan and compete with Hunter Dickinson and Moussa Diabate for minutes.
Or he can come to MU, slide right into a starting role and play for a guy who's put three bigs in the NBA draft's first round the past five years.
Wishful thinking, I'm sure, but that's the pitch. Georgia apparently is a favorite for him as well.
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 29, 2021, 08:04:48 PM
Agreed. Thank you for everything you did.
Seems like very one dimensional thinking. If you were Shaka coming in with a clean slate would you measure an assistants value based on one player?
He may or may not be right for Shaka's staff but if he determines that based on one kids decision he's not right to run the program. In other words Gainey's tenure at MU did/does not rest on the decision of one 17yr old.
edit/add on: hopefully he comes full circle and comes to MU, if not, hope he chooses a place that's perfect for him
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2021, 07:31:12 PM
Probably opens a path for David Jopin
I thought he was pretty much a SF. No?
This was known to be a soft commit
We would love to have him
A huge loss
If Shaka can get him, great, but move on quickly
The way the kid was blowing up it was probably a long shot he ended up here anyway even if Wojo was still here.
Damn. But we will be fine.
Joplin would be a 4 in Shaka's system. Along with dawson, lewis, oso... i'd feel fine with the big rotation.
Bad luck.
Let's hope this is the only shoe that drops...
Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 29, 2021, 08:29:35 PM
Let's hope this is the only shoe that drops...
*Ron Howard voice*
But it wasn't
Quote from: naginiF on March 29, 2021, 08:21:30 PM
Seems like very one dimensional thinking. If you were Shaka coming in with a clean slate would you measure an assistants value based on one player?
He may or may not be right for Shaka's staff but if he determines that based on one kids decision he's not right to run the program. In other words Gainey's tenure at MU did/does not rest on the decision of one 17yr old.
edit/add on: hopefully he comes full circle and comes to MU, if not, hope he chooses a place that's perfect for him
Of course it's not based upon one recruit. I think with Ss's connections to soooo many HS, AAU, other college coaches he has no loyalty to a Wojo leftover. SS can give a prized asst coaching job to people he's known his whole career....which I don't think will include Gainey.
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 29, 2021, 08:32:15 PM
Of course it's not based upon one recruit. I think with Ss's connections to soooo many HS, AAU, other college coaches he has no loyalty to a Wojo leftover. SS can give a prized asst coaching job to people he's known his whole career....which I don't think will include Gainey.
That is rational and probably accurate. Also many degrees off of what CountryRoads was stating.
It's better that Shaka gets the players in who who want to be in his system with the coaches who know and teach his system.
For the players, it's important they pick the system and coach that fits their needs and wants. Fair to both sides on all counts.
This rings of Tyshawn Taylor
There are 1,000+ players in the transfer portal, so the potential is there to land another big man if Shaka feels it's necessary.
The narrative that just because someone commits to Marquette, then de-commits, doesn't mean the sky is falling. Remember back when Ahmed Hill de-committed and went to VT with Brent and Scoop went apesh*t. Never made a big splash and wasn't even the best guard on that VT team. Now he's averaging 4.2 ppg in the G League.
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 29, 2021, 08:54:00 PM
There are 1,000+ players in the transfer portal, so the potential is there to land another big man if Shaka feels it's necessary.
The narrative that just because someone commits to Marquette, then de-commits, doesn't mean the sky is falling. Remember back when Ahmed Hill de-committed and went to VT with Brent and Scoop went apesh*t. Never made a big splash and wasn't even the best guard on that VT team. Now he's averaging 4.2 ppg in the G League.
Yeah but Shayok de-committing definitely was a bummer given what he turned into
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 29, 2021, 08:55:00 PM
Yeah but Shayok de-committing definitely was a bummer given what he turned into
Man, I never predicted that
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 29, 2021, 08:54:00 PM
There are 1,000+ players in the transfer portal, so the potential is there to land another big man if Shaka feels it's necessary.
The narrative that just because someone commits to Marquette, then de-commits, doesn't mean the sky is falling. Remember back when Ahmed Hill de-committed and went to VT with Brent and Scoop went apesh*t. Never made a big splash and wasn't even the best guard on that VT team. Now he's averaging 4.2 ppg in the G League.
He was pretty darn solid.
Almost 1500 pts. Career 39% from 3.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 29, 2021, 09:04:24 PM
He was pretty darn solid.
Almost 1500 pts. Career 39% from 3.
Didn't he also blow his knee out.
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 29, 2021, 08:54:00 PM
There are 1,000+ players in the transfer portal, so the potential is there to land another big man if Shaka feels it's necessary.
The narrative that just because someone commits to Marquette, then de-commits, doesn't mean the sky is falling. Remember back when Ahmed Hill de-committed and went to VT with Brent and Scoop went apesh*t. Never made a big splash and wasn't even the best guard on that VT team. Now he's averaging 4.2 ppg in the G League.
Ahmed Hill would have been a really, really good player for Wojo to have around. So not the best example.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 29, 2021, 08:43:21 PM
This rings of Tyshawn Taylor
I hear there's a notable program in Aidoo's home state that unexpectedly needs a 7 footer.
Quote from: naginiF on March 29, 2021, 08:42:40 PM
That is rational and probably accurate. Also many degrees off of what CountryRoads was stating.
Was it? How so?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 29, 2021, 09:17:22 PM
I hear there's a notable program in Aidoo's home state that unexpectedly needs a 7 footer.
Ole Roy
nm
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 29, 2021, 07:38:25 PM
Well, that was Gaineys guy. Looks like he didn't get it done. Time to let him go too now and clean house.
Well Aidoo said he discussed it with his family and coaches and knows Gainey is more than likely not going to be around even if he stayed. We all know the current staff and roster is in flux. Let's see who Shaka brings to MU and less concerned with who is leaving or never even played.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 29, 2021, 08:55:00 PM
Yeah but Shayok de-committing definitely was a bummer given what he turned into
Yes, he was. But how did Satchel Pierce turn out?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 29, 2021, 09:45:05 PM
Yes, he was. But how did Satchel Pierce turn out?
Better than Mbao
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 29, 2021, 09:45:05 PM
Yes, he was. But how did Satchel Pierce turn out?
He was no Bret Roseboro.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 29, 2021, 09:13:32 PM
Ahmed Hill would have been a really, really good player for Wojo to have around. So not the best example.
Based on what? Brent runs a system that features lots of 3-point attempts, so saying he would've made appreciably more shots under Steve isn't the best argument. He wasn't the star player in college many people here believed he would be.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 29, 2021, 10:02:04 PM
Plankin point
Very G of you
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/Point-Plankin-Explained-115086153/
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 29, 2021, 10:00:14 PM
Based on what? Brent runs a system that features lots of 3-point attempts, so saying he would've made appreciably more shots under Steve isn't the best argument. He wasn't the star player in college many people here believed he would be.
He never said that he would've been better under Wojo. He said he would've been a "really, really good player for Wojo to have around". Ahmed Hill started 115 games for some good VT teams and averaged over 10ppg in 3/4 years. Maybe not a star but he was a very good college player.
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Hope he finds a good fit, he has every right to open up his recruitment. Not sure why some people here want to make it seem like a big deal he decommitted.
Quote from: MU24 on March 29, 2021, 10:16:08 PM
Hope he finds a good fit, he has every right to open up his recruitment. Not sure why some people here want to make it seem like a big deal he decommitted.
First part, totally with you. Second part, umm cause he's a top 100 recruit who has been flying up the rankings and likely finishes top 50? It's understandable he leaves after a coaching change, but it's a big deal cause those guys don't grow on trees
Best of luck Mr. Aidoo. We will miss you here.
As other posters have said, with the way he was blowing up and him not having officially signed with MU, he may have decided to reopen his recruitment, a la Tyler Herro with UW. Especially considering we were coming off a really crappy season.
Any time there's a coaching change, you're gonna have some roster turnover. If Carton is in fact staying (and it looks from his tweet like he very well might be) then that is a massive win for Shaka and the program. If Garcia also decides to stay, we might win the damn Big East next year. And even if Garcia leaves, with Carton and the transfer portal still open, we could potentially be very, very good.
I'm excited for next year, and wish Aidoo the best wherever he ends up.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 30, 2021, 12:17:28 AM
If Carton is in fact staying (and it looks from his tweet like he very well might be) then that is a massive win for Shaka and the program. If Garcia also decides to stay, we might win the damn Big East next year.
You saw how bad this team was this year right?
Quote from: Farley36 on March 30, 2021, 12:21:20 AM
You saw how bad this team was this year right?
I did, and I was one of the most vocal Nojoers out there for the last few years. But I strongly feel that the biggest problem with the team was Wojo, and the lack of high major talent outside of Carton, Garcia, and Lewis. Carton and Garcia, next year, could be two of the best players in the Big East. If we can get a couple transfers who can step in right away (something I think is very possible with Shaka) we could be really good next year. We could also suck again. For the first time in a while, I'm excited to see how it shakes out.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 30, 2021, 12:28:19 AM
I did, and I was one of the most vocal Nojoers out there for the last few years. But I strongly feel that the biggest problem with the team was Wojo, and the lack of high major talent outside of Carton, Garcia, and Lewis. Carton and Garcia, next year, could be two of the best players in the Big East. If we can get a couple transfers who can step in right away (something I think is very possible with Shaka) we could be really good next year. We could also suck again. For the first time in a while, I'm excited to see how it shakes out.
And a healthy Justin. If he stays healthy he'll be the best of the 3 - both here and in the Association.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 29, 2021, 07:38:25 PM
Well, that was Gaineys guy. Looks like he didn%u2019t get it done. Time to let him go too now and clean house.
Well, they pretty much fired him with Wojo.
Huckleberry Roy first to call after he de-committed.
Well, duh. A mobile 7 footer with upside from North Carolina? Roy would be committing coaching malpractice if he didn't call.
Imagine wanting to play for Wojo but not Shaka.
Relationships. And the Wojo regime was on him early.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on March 30, 2021, 07:17:06 AM
Imagine wanting to play for Wojo but not Shaka.
Based on him not signing and how he blew up, I'm not sure he would have been playing for Wojo.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 30, 2021, 08:05:52 AM
Based on him not signing and how he blew up, I'm not sure he would have been playing for Wojo.
It likely would have been over anyway when Walker Kessler transferred. Roy got on the phone immediately and called Aidoo. How depressing would that have been if Aidoo decommitted and Wojo was still here and he went desperately trying to sign some low major transfer replacement?
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 30, 2021, 08:20:00 AM
It likely would have been over anyway when Walker Kessler transferred. Roy got on the phone immediately and called Aidoo. How depressing would that have been if Aidoo decommitted and Wojo was still here and he went desperately trying to sign some low major transfer replacement?
Interestingly enough, would we have interest in Walker Kessler?
Quote from: JTJ3 on March 29, 2021, 07:30:23 PM
sucks to lose him, big time potential.
if we're truly gonna pick up the pressure like shaka wants, i think dawson and justin will cover most of the center minutes anyways. we need more athletic wings, not bigs.
Lewis is a 6'7 PF at best, Dawson is a stretch 4 as well. We don't have a center, and we haven't in years.
I do have to admit I'm unhappy about Aidoo. What should we do about losing Aidoo?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
Lewis is a 6'7 PF at best, Dawson is a stretch 4 as well. We don't have a center, and we haven't in years.
You didn't consider John a center? Certainly not an offensive one but I think 6'9" at his build was a center.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 30, 2021, 09:11:19 AM
Interestingly enough, would we have interest in Walker Kessler?
Absolutely, along with just about everyone else. Most suspect he'll end up at Gonzaga or Georgia, though, so I doubt Shaka puts much (if any) time into courting him.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 30, 2021, 09:24:47 AM
I do have to admit I'm unhappy about Aidoo. What should we do about losing Aidoo?
If no BE transfer rule, go after Wahab, that would work.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 30, 2021, 09:30:00 AM
You didn't consider John a center? Certainly not an offensive one but I think 6'9" at his build was a center.
He played there, but I'm not sure he was ever really a 5.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 30, 2021, 09:24:47 AM
I do have to admit I'm unhappy about Aidoo. What should we do about losing Aidoo?
I feel a Dr Suess rhyme is imminent
What would you do
About losing Aidoo
Would you act like guru
Or get a new hairdoo
Would you practice Kung Fu
Or get a tattoo
Wolud you buy new gymshoes
Or would you drink some home brew
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
He played there, but I'm not sure he was ever really a 5.
Interesting.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
He played there, but I'm not sure he was ever really a 5.
You should read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_positions
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 30, 2021, 09:24:47 AM
I do have to admit I'm unhappy about Aidoo. What should we do about losing Aidoo?
Don't worry about it, it won't solve anything.
We didn't lose him, he was never here to be lost in the first place. Wish him well, trust our new coach to get someone else, likely someone who will be a better fit for his scheme.
Quote from: genious expert on March 30, 2021, 09:44:19 AM
You should read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_positions
For what, I said John played the 5, but isn't a true 5.
People love to be wooed, it as simple as that. The human need to be wanted, needed, loved, and besides it's off season, why not play the field?
Shaka has had success finding great big men. I don't doubt he will be able to replace him.
Quote from: vogue65 on March 30, 2021, 09:48:30 AM
People love to be wooed, it as simple as that. The human need to be wanted, needed, loved, and besides it's off season, why not play the field?
I've had this chat with my wife and it didn't go great.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:47:53 AM
For what, I said John played the 5, but isn't a true 5.
I disagree but please explain
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 30, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
I feel a Dr Suess rhyme is imminent
What would you do
About losing Aidoo
Would you act like guru
Or get a new hairdoo
Would you practice Kung Fu
Or get a tattoo
Wolud you buy new gymshoes
Or would you drink some home brew
Well done.
Quote from: nyg on March 30, 2021, 09:34:27 AM
If no BE transfer rule, go after Wahab, that would work.
THIS
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 30, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
I feel a Dr Suess rhyme is imminent
What would you do
About losing Aidoo
Would you act like guru
Or get a new hairdoo
Would you practice Kung Fu
Or get a tattoo
Wolud you buy new gymshoes
Or would you drink some home brew
Great job lawdog!!
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
Lewis is a 6'7 PF at best, Dawson is a stretch 4 as well. We don't have a center, and we haven't in years.
Jayce Johnson was a center. Luke Fischer was a center.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 30, 2021, 11:24:57 AM
Jayce Johnson was a center. Luke Fischer was a center.
Matt Heldt
Quote from: BrewCity83 on March 30, 2021, 11:24:57 AM
Jayce Johnson was a center. Luke Fischer was a center.
Correct. My bad.
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 30, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
I feel a Dr Suess rhyme is imminent
What would you do
About losing Aidoo
Would you act like guru
Or get a new hairdoo
Would you practice Kung Fu
Or get a tattoo
Wolud you buy new gymshoes
Or would you drink some home brew
MUScoop covers all, from haikus to Seuss rhymes.
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 30, 2021, 09:40:57 AM
I feel a Dr Suess rhyme is imminent
What would you do
About losing Aidoo
Would you act like guru
Or get a new hairdoo
Would you practice Kung Fu
Or get a tattoo
Wolud you buy new gymshoes
Or would you drink some home brew
Excellent effort.
Quote from: Miss Katie's on March 30, 2021, 11:47:34 AM
Excellent effort.
Thanks. I missed some low hanging fruit. Such as
Would you write a haiku
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 30, 2021, 12:01:27 PM
Thanks. I missed some low hanging fruit. Such as
Would you write a haiku
Aidoo to "I don't"
Shaka will find someone new
Always gets his guy
Quote from: DienerTime34 on March 30, 2021, 07:17:06 AM
Imagine wanting to play for Wojo but not Shaka.
Exactamundo!!!
Shaka isn't ready to bid adieu to Aidoo:
Tipton Edits @TiptonEdits
2021 four-star Jonas Aidoo has heard from the following schools since decommitting from Marquette yesterday: Ohio State, Maryland, Georgia, North Carolina, Wake Forest.
Tipton Edits @TiptonEdits
Newly hired HC Shaka Smart has also reached out to Aidoo.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 30, 2021, 03:02:51 PM
Shaka isn't ready to bid adieu to Aidoo:
Tipton Edits @TiptonEdits
2021 four-star Jonas Aidoo has heard from the following schools since decommitting from Marquette yesterday: Ohio State, Maryland, Georgia, North Carolina, Wake Forest.
Tipton Edits @TiptonEdits
Newly hired HC Shaka Smart has also reached out to Aidoo.
Wonder if Gainey will put in a good word as well.
Much Aidoo 'bout nothin', aina?
Having an increasingly hard time watching many here discuss the pursuit (*** kissing) of 17 yr olds who we really have NO idea how they'll pan out in college.... They are simply names and numbers on stat sheets with absolutely NO insight into whether they'll be able to adapt to a different style play than their high school teams, play against better competition than at their current level and adjust to NOT being the BMOC here or anywhere else...
Just confounds me..... There IS an endless pool of them coming in every year, too.
Think the Henry/Joey pursuits were worthless to us and wasted valuable time and space.... Just sayin'.
Quote from: axaguy on March 30, 2021, 03:53:28 PM
Having an increasingly hard time watching many here discuss the pursuit (*** kissing) of 17 yr olds who we really have NO idea how they'll pan out in college.... They are simply names and numbers on stat sheets with absolutely NO insight into whether they'll be able to adapt to a different style play than their high school teams, play against better competition than at their current level and adjust to NOT being the BMOC here or anywhere else...
Just confounds me..... There IS an endless pool of them coming in every year, too.
Think the Henry/Joey pursuits were worthless to us and wasted valuable time and space.... Just sayin'.
To be fair Henry was over promised and poorly coached. Joey had an attitude problem. They both were far above what you expect of freshmen.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 30, 2021, 09:53:05 AM
I've had this chat with my wife and it didn't go great.
Ditto. Women, hey?
Quote from: axaguy on March 30, 2021, 03:53:28 PM
Having an increasingly hard time watching many here discuss the pursuit (*** kissing) of 17 yr olds who we really have NO idea how they'll pan out in college.... They are simply names and numbers on stat sheets with absolutely NO insight into whether they'll be able to adapt to a different style play than their high school teams, play against better competition than at their current level and adjust to NOT being the BMOC here or anywhere else...
Just confounds me..... There IS an endless pool of them coming in every year, too.
Think the Henry/Joey pursuits were worthless to us and wasted valuable time and space.... Just sayin'.
Lots of "get off my lawn" energy emanating from this post.
We all care enough about Marquette basketball to spend time on a message board: recruiting for said team is the backbone of the message board.
I don't see any ass-kissing. I see people invested in the team knowing a recruit who's soared up recruiting rankings with interest from blue blood schools, who committed to us once, could (operative word) be great if he came here to play for our new coach that has a great track record with big men.
Hopefully he gives Shaka a shot to make his case and considers re-committing.
I love all of the recruiting info and the process of recruiting. Over the past couple of years I barely did any research on the topic and excited to pay closer attention again.
Quote from: axaguy on March 30, 2021, 03:53:28 PM
Having an increasingly hard time watching many here discuss the pursuit (*** kissing) of 17 yr olds who we really have NO idea how they'll pan out in college.... They are simply names and numbers on stat sheets with absolutely NO insight into whether they'll be able to adapt to a different style play than their high school teams, play against better competition than at their current level and adjust to NOT being the BMOC here or anywhere else...
Just confounds me..... There IS an endless pool of them coming in every year, too.
Think the Henry/Joey pursuits were worthless to us and wasted valuable time and space.... Just sayin'.
Quote from: axaguy on March 30, 2021, 03:53:28 PM
Having an increasingly hard time watching many here discuss the pursuit (*** kissing) of 17 yr olds who we really have NO idea how they'll pan out in college.... They are simply names and numbers on stat sheets with absolutely NO insight into whether they'll be able to adapt to a different style play than their high school teams, play against better competition than at their current level and adjust to NOT being the BMOC here or anywhere else...
Just confounds me..... There IS an endless pool of them coming in every year, too.
Think the Henry/Joey pursuits were worthless to us and wasted valuable time and space.... Just sayin'.
Agree with some of that but there is no doubt that Aidoo is a legit big-time recruit. Just look at the schools interested in him. He's pretty much the key to the recruiting class.
Quote from: axaguy on March 30, 2021, 03:53:28 PM
Having an increasingly hard time watching many here discuss the pursuit (*** kissing) of 17 yr olds who we really have NO idea how they'll pan out in college.... They are simply names and numbers on stat sheets with absolutely NO insight into whether they'll be able to adapt to a different style play than their high school teams, play against better competition than at their current level and adjust to NOT being the BMOC here or anywhere else...
Just confounds me..... There IS an endless pool of them coming in every year, too.
Think the Henry/Joey pursuits were worthless to us and wasted valuable time and space.... Just sayin'.
Henry had game. He kicked REDs ace in Madison. Hard to argue as he was a 1st rd pick. But, but he needed another year. Was something goin' on behind the scenes? No love fest with Woj? Maybe could have used better advice? Now...eating crap sandwiches in whereverville. Hopefully has a good accountant. Joey, er, Joey Turnover? You've been over-recruited. Enjoy pinetime next season w/Izzo.
Quote from: Marq3332 on March 30, 2021, 07:42:37 PM
Henry had game. He kicked REDs ace in Madison. Hard to argue as he was a 1st rd pick. But, but he needed another year. Was something goin' on behind the scenes? No love fest with Woj? Maybe could have used better advice? Now...eating crap sandwiches in whereverville. Hopefully has a good accountant. Joey, er, Joey Turnover? You've been over-recruited. Enjoy pinetime next season w/Izzo.
Henry is 24 years old and has already made $6M in his career.
Quote from: BLM on March 30, 2021, 07:52:22 PM
Henry is 24 years old and has already made $6M in his career.
No matta
Always another player.
Quote from: Marq3332 on March 30, 2021, 07:42:37 PM
Henry had game. He kicked REDs ace in Madison. Hard to argue as he was a 1st rd pick. But, but he needed another year. Was something goin' on behind the scenes? No love fest with Woj? Maybe could have used better advice?
Nope. IIRC, the following year projected to be a much stronger draft class that the one in which Henry went pro. He made the calculation that another year in college was not going to increase his draft position and therefore his money.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
Lewis is a 6'7 PF at best, Dawson is a stretch 4 as well. We don't have a center, and we haven't in years.
Lewis is easily 6'81/2".
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 30, 2021, 08:38:57 PM
Nope. IIRC, the following year projected to be a much stronger draft class that the one in which Henry went pro. He made the calculation that another year in college was not going to increase his draft position and therefore his money.
Not to mention, Henry had a 10 day contract already this year. I'm sure he developed more on the bench his rookie year than at MU.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 30, 2021, 08:47:12 PM
Lewis is easily 6'81/2".
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/justin-lewis/6491
Listed at 6'7
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 30, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
He played there, but I'm not sure he was ever really a 5.
He wasn't a forward.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 30, 2021, 08:59:41 PM
Not to mention, Henry had a 10 day contract already this year. I'm sure he developed more on the bench his rookie year than at MU.
Given Wojo's track record on player development this is absolutely correct.