Wojo proud of team and cites COVID and injuries as the main challenges.
https://youtu.be/wKOLcvXwXYE
Not sure what else people expect him to say. At this point, nothing he says will change how people feel about the program, if they feel anything at all. I am just glad I am not spending money towards something that doesnt seem to be going anywhere.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 10, 2021, 05:51:50 PM
Wojo proud of team and cites COVID and injuries as the main challenges.
https://youtu.be/wKOLcvXwXYE
Coach Wojo spoke at the Big East Press Conference. But did Coach Wojo speak on 94.5 ESPN with Homer and Tony after the game
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 10, 2021, 05:51:50 PM
Wojo proud of team and cites COVID and injuries as the main challenges.
https://youtu.be/wKOLcvXwXYE
It's so unfair that MU had to deal with COVID and injuries. I can't think of another team in the country that had those challenges. And MU had to play with 10' hoops. Its a miracle we won any games. Well done Mr Wojo!
Weak. Every team has covid related issues.
Trash ...
I agree ! Wojo was outstanding..,
I mean Covid only hit his team - not the whole country - and clearly it had many side effects:
Tons of losing ( including DP)
Inability to run inbounds plays
Terrible offense
TURNOVERS
etc etc etc
Poor guy. An extension is clearly in
Order. ASAP
Went down a rabbit hole and watched a few of the media availabilities and press conferences in 2014 before Wojo coached his first game and in 2015. Guy really had all the answers then.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 10, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
Weak. Every team has covid related issues.
We had far less than most. Credit to all involved with MU for that, and some good luck that we didn't get shut down much by opponents' issues either.
I didn't hear COVID or injuries as an excuse for this poor season. I heard the coach say he was proud of his players because they handled everything without complaining. Also said he felt bad for the seniors because it wasn't a normal season.
Look, I know that all are extremely frustrated but you really don't need to distort his words to fit your narrative.
We had far fewer COVID and injury issues than most teams.
Quote from: StateStreetMission on March 10, 2021, 06:30:39 PM
I didn't hear COVID or injuries as an excuse for this poor season. I heard the coach say he was proud of his players because they handled everything without complaining. Also said he felt bad for the seniors because it wasn't a normal season.
Look, I know that all are extremely frustrated but you really don't need to distort his words to fit your narrative.
Agreed. He was complimenting his players for not complaining when they could have.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2021, 06:35:38 PM
We had far fewer COVID and injury issues than most teams.
The mental and physical break may have been helpful for our team to have a week off during the season.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 10, 2021, 06:37:29 PM
The mental and physical break may have been helpful for our team to have a week off during the season.
I have no interest in listening to Wojo's presser. This was an inordinately frustrating day and a microcosm of seven years of suckage. We've talked about it ad nauseum but no rational person can look at this MU team and not see the issues we have are entrenched and starts at the top.
Query - Is Wojo the unluckiest coach in the history of sports?!?!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2021, 06:35:38 PM
We had far fewer COVID and injury issues than most teams.
You need to go back to the Dodd's Board and read what he just said in a reply to "Will Wojo be back" thread. I hardly do, but a friend from another college b-ball forum heard about it and told me to read. Going sorta viral I guess.
Seriously, it is unbelievable and I don't know where to start. Off my head, COVID full cause of season misery, players sick, players having serious mental issues, MU officials full aware of COVID effect on players, public will never be made aware of what happened, Wojo staying, etc.......
Muggs, since you know how this guy works, can you go read and give a summary to all, I gotta run.
Quote from: nyg on March 10, 2021, 07:35:25 PM
You need to go back to the Dodd's Board and read what he just said in a reply to "Will Wojo be back" thread. I hardly do, but a friend from another college b-ball forum heard about it and told me to read. Going sorta viral I guess.
Here's the link to make it easy (we allow that here...)
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/Contents/is-wojo-really-back-next-season-162164101/?page=2#M162170777
The team should've opted out if there was so much concern. It doesn't sound like the juice was worth the squeeze.
Quote from: nyg on March 10, 2021, 07:35:25 PM
You need to go back to the Dodd's Board and read what he just said in a reply to "Will Wojo be back" thread. I hardly do, but a friend from another college b-ball forum heard about it and told me to read. Going sorta viral I guess.
Seriously, it is unbelievable and I don't know where to start. Off my head, COVID full cause of season misery, players sick, players having serious mental issues, MU officials full aware of COVID effect on players, public will never be made aware of what happened, Wojo staying, etc.......
Muggs, since you know how this guy works, can you go read and give a summary to all, I gotta run.
I don't know if I can put myself through it . Smh.
Dodds is married?
For years.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 10, 2021, 07:54:09 PM
Here's the link to make it easy (we allow that here...)
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/Contents/is-wojo-really-back-next-season-162164101/?page=2#M162170777
Wow. That's pretty out there even for Dodds.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 10, 2021, 08:02:50 PM
Wow. That's pretty out there even for Dodds.
Yeah. I will say I listened to the Koby interview the other day - and I was surprised to hear he was living in a hotel (and presumably the whole team). I guess I don't pay enough attention, but that was news to me.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 10, 2021, 08:02:50 PM
Wow. That's pretty out there even for Dodds.
Seems like a modern version of Adam Sandler's answer in Billy Madison.
Has to keep his access so he can ask and answer questions about how great the players/coaches are.
Koby wears his emotions so much on his sleeve during games, the least surprising thing was learning he battled depression. Good luck to the young man.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 10, 2021, 08:09:06 PM
Seems like a modern version of Adam Sandler's answer in Billy Madison.
Lol nice !
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 10, 2021, 08:07:03 PM
Yeah. I will say I listened to the Koby interview the other day - and I was surprised to hear he was living in a hotel (and presumably the whole team). I guess I don't pay enough attention, but that was news to me.
That was a good '5 minute segment' by Koby and speaks a ton about the person he is and will become. I didn't read the whole post (too long) but at the bottom he states "the decisions will be based on much more info than the fans will ever know" and that's indisputable. Regardless of what Dodd's was talking about, that is always the case. Some posters think it is as easy as looking at the on court product.
Also, I'm not a local so it's a small sample size, but Homer is a HORRIBLE interviewer.
Holy Dodds, I forgot that mu is the only team dealing with covid. Then the fans.... The fans will never understand, how could they... Covid doesn't effect their lives.
Dodds' post is out there, but it is consistent with what I was told in that the university was and is dealing with C19 at scale and the energy (let alone the expense) of a change is why it will not happen.
Goal is to promote stability and a return to normal at MU for everyone on campus.
Wojo gets a pass on this year. The posts about finances are true in that a buyout would be expensive, but that's not how/why a change will not happen in '21.
And there is not a single person at MU who doesn't think Wojo is trying very hard and sincerely cares about the players. I know we all want Ws and a return to tourney success. But in years like this last year the intangibles do matter.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 10, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
Dodds' post is out there, but it is consistent with what I was told in that the university was and is dealing with C19 at scale and the energy (let alone the expense) of a change is why it will not happen.
Goal is to promote stability and a return to normal at MU for everyone on campus.
Wojo gets a pass on this year. The posts about finances are true in that a buyout would be expensive, but that's not how/why a change will not happen in '21.
And there is not a single person at MU who doesn't think Wojo is trying very hard and sincerely cares about the players. I know we all want Ws and a return to tourney success. But in years like this last year the intangibles do matter.
Why aren't they looking at the comprehensive view of his tenure here. He's stunk for a long time. This season is the tipping point.
Crazy DODDS went waaay off the rails ...
" no other team " went through what
MU did ... " no fans " can imagine it ..
COVID affected MU worse than ANY other team...
Really delusional
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 10, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
Dodds' post is out there, but it is consistent with what I was told in that the university was and is dealing with C19 at scale and the energy (let alone the expense) of a change is why it will not happen.
Goal is to promote stability and a return to normal at MU for everyone on campus.
Wojo gets a pass on this year. The posts about finances are true in that a buyout would be expensive, but that's not how/why a change will not happen in '21.
And there is not a single person at MU who doesn't think Wojo is trying very hard and sincerely cares about the players. I know we all want Ws and a return to tourney success. But in years like this last year the intangibles do matter.
You and I talk to different MU employees.
Quote from: The Lens on March 10, 2021, 08:54:22 PM
You and I talk to different MU employees.
What are you hearing?
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 10, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
Dodds' post is out there, but it is consistent with what I was told in that the university was and is dealing with C19 at scale and the energy (let alone the expense) of a change is why it will not happen.
Goal is to promote stability and a return to normal at MU for everyone on campus.
Wojo gets a pass on this year. The posts about finances are true in that a buyout would be expensive, but that's not how/why a change will not happen in '21.
And there is not a single person at MU who doesn't think Wojo is trying very hard and sincerely cares about the players. I know we all want Ws and a return to tourney success. But in years like this last year the intangibles do matter.
I'm just curious what you forsee next year whether all of our top 3 players come back or not?
Quote from: panda on March 10, 2021, 08:52:43 PM
Why aren't they looking at the comprehensive view of his tenure here. He's stunk for a long time. This season is the tipping point.
+1. I don't get the "he's trying hard" defense. I've seen it referenced here that he get's paid like $75k per game. So, for today's game, he was compensated $37.5k for the first half. That's $2,500 per MU point. On a $/point pay scale, Wojo's paid more than K. At least he's trying though.
Avenue
Then there are a lot of out of touch folks at MU. If true, confirms my belief of the last nine years that they have no idea how to be successful, nor are they full committed.
Quote from: Steve Buscemi on March 10, 2021, 09:01:43 PM
+1. I don't get the "he's trying hard" defense. I've seen it referenced here that he get's paid like $75k per game. So, for today's game, he was compensated $37.5k for the first half. That's $2,500 per MU point. On a $/point pay scale, Wojo's paid more than K. At least he's trying though.
He's delivered zero results in seven years and suddenly his saving grace is "no one actually understands how hard the covid year really was"
This is big time college sports and he hasn't come remotely close to delivering. The administration doesn't care.
I have no doubt this year was hard on the players. It's been hard on everyone, including every team Marquette played this season.
Now let's figure out what only Marquette dealt with the previous six years.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 10, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
Dodds' post is out there, but it is consistent with what I was told in that the university was and is dealing with C19 at scale and the energy (let alone the expense) of a change is why it will not happen.
Goal is to promote stability and a return to normal at MU for everyone on campus.
Wojo gets a pass on this year. The posts about finances are true in that a buyout would be expensive, but that's not how/why a change will not happen in '21.
And there is not a single person at MU who doesn't think Wojo is trying very hard and sincerely cares about the players. I know we all want Ws and a return to tourney success. But in years like this last year the intangibles do matter.
So is Dodds' post "out there" or spot on with the facts? The assertion that the University doesn't have the energy to address the most high profile part of the school and it's highest paid employee is hard to believe. I'm dealing with COVID issues at my three companies and i have the energy to deal with the important issues facing my businesses. Plenty of schools that are dealing with COVID are making coaching changes this year. I don't believe MU's admin is such a 'hot mess' that it can't execute where others are.
I know you're not arguing that Wojo should be back, just laying out information you have heard. I just think the info is flawed. I would not be surprised if he is back but it is because of money.
Also, I have not seen many, if any at all, posts questioning Wojo's effort. Most everyone calling for a change also points out his classiness and great kids he brings in. So I don't understand the point of your last paragraph.
Quote from: panda on March 10, 2021, 08:56:21 PM
What are you hearing?
Nothing as positive or forgiving as Ave. is hearing. The people I talk to are acutely aware of the sentiment of fans / alumni.
Has covid really been harder on Wojo and the MU team than the average person ages 1-100? This is an insanely idiotic premise and honestly somewhat insulting.
He's gowne. I've said it for a long time now.
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 10, 2021, 09:13:14 PM
He's gowne. I've said it for a long time now.
Gone? Or "If Lovell, Scholl, and the admin had any balls he would be gone but they don't so who knows?!"
Would everyone writing off this poor season due to covid be celebrating the grittiness and effort if the team overachieved?
Seems a bit disingenuous.
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 10, 2021, 09:15:40 PM
Gone? Or "If Lovell, Scholl, and the admin had any balls he would be gone but they don't so who knows?!"
The $1000 bet is still open without brains. Go back to policing the MU social media platforms, chief.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 10, 2021, 07:54:09 PM
Here's the link to make it easy (we allow that here...)
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/board/104085/Contents/is-wojo-really-back-next-season-162164101/?page=2#M162170777
I'm sorry. Please help me understand.
Are Dodd's comments meant to imply the MU players somehow endured more or worse conditions than every other basketball team in the nation? And, therefore, this excuses this year?
Would it have been better to have multiple Covid outbreaks on the team, like many teams had to deal with?
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 10, 2021, 08:47:32 PM
Dodds' post is out there, but it is consistent with what I was told in that the university was and is dealing with C19 at scale and the energy (let alone the expense) of a change is why it will not happen.
Goal is to promote stability and a return to normal at MU for everyone on campus.
Wojo gets a pass on this year. The posts about finances are true in that a buyout would be expensive, but that's not how/why a change will not happen in '21.
And there is not a single person at MU who doesn't think Wojo is trying very hard and sincerely cares about the players. I know we all want Ws and a return to tourney success. But in years like this last year the intangibles do matter.
I thought Wojo got a Covid pass last year.
Quote from: panda on March 10, 2021, 09:16:10 PM
Would everyone writing off this poor season due to covid be celebrating the grittiness and effort if the team overachieved?
Seems a bit disingenuous.
Great point.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on March 10, 2021, 09:23:17 PM
I'm sorry. Please help me understand.
Are Dodd's comments meant to imply the MU players somehow endured more or worse conditions than every other basketball team in the nation? And, therefore, this excuses this year?
Would it have been better to have multiple Covid outbreaks on the team, like many teams had to deal with?
That's entirely dependent on what our record would have been with multiple covid outbreaks.
Quote from: f/k/a humanlung on March 10, 2021, 09:25:12 PM
I thought Wojo got a Covid pass last year.
He was down and out and saved by the bell.
Quote from: panda on March 10, 2021, 09:16:10 PM
Would everyone writing off this poor season due to covid be celebrating the grittiness and effort if the team overachieved?
Seems a bit disingenuous.
Spending any time thinking about a Wojo team overachieving is a waste of time.
I also don't put much stock into the COVID excuse. Our biggest COVID issue was missing practice time in the preseason. We looked a ton better earlier in the year than at the end. If we started really badly and gelled as the year went on, I'd maybe give that argument some credibility.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 10, 2021, 09:30:33 PM
Spending any time thinking about a Wojo team overachieving is a waste of time.
I also don't put much stock into the COVID excuse. Our biggest COVID issue was missing practice time in the preseason. We looked a ton better earlier in the year than at the end. If we started really badly and gelled as the year went on, I'd maybe give that argument some credibility.
We ALWAYS look better earlier in the year than later under Wojo.
Covid is just the next excuse in a long line of them for Wojo's failures as a coach.
If MU is going to play the victim card for Woj because of Covid, I have little sympathy.
I think there is an interesting dynamic here.....
Marquette protects its players by essentially bubbling them at the "Ambassador".....
Xavier lets their players "canoodle" with the mainstream student body......
Marquette plays all their games but their "mental state" was "done" by the end of the yaar.....
Xavier misses a third of its games because of COVID and contact tracing.....
Neither team fulfills its "desire"......
So clearly their has to be a "middle ground" which neither of these two schools figured out.....
Marquette's basketball team's mental health was certainly depleted at the end......
Quote from: burger on March 10, 2021, 09:56:29 PM
I think there is an interesting dynamic here.....
Marquette protects its players by essentially bubbling them at the "Ambassador".....
Xavier lets their players "canoodle" with the mainstream student body......
Marquette plays all their games but their "mental state" was "done" by the end of the yaar.....
Xavier misses a third of its games because of COVID and contact tracing.....
Neither team fulfills its "desire"......
So clearly their has to be a "middle ground" which neither of these two schools figured out.....
Clearly Marquette's basketball team's mental health was certainly depleted at the end......
Why does anyone think Wojo would manage this challenge any better than the others he has faced (and largely failed at) over the last seven years?
I don't think this was all a Wojo decision......I am pretty sure this strategy went all the way to the top at the university.....
The Bball team is big business......
This went all the way to the president.....Not that Wojo did not have major input.....
I will not give him all the blame on this one......
There are plenty of other issues where he is certainly directly at fault.....
Quote from: burger on March 10, 2021, 10:02:35 PM
I don't think this was all a Wojo decision......I am pretty sure this strategy went all the way to the top at the university.....
The Bball team is big business......
This went all the way to the president.....Not that Wojo did not have major input.....
I will not give him all the blame on this one......
There are plenty of other issues where he is certainly directly at fault.....
With....all.... the.....periods.....in....your....posts....
you are Dodd's burner account on Scoop. Convince me I'm wrong.
Quote from: naginiF on March 10, 2021, 10:06:55 PM
you are Dodd's burner account on Scoop. Convince me I'm wrong.
I've asked before... I don't believe he is...but...the ellipsis style is uncanny...
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 10, 2021, 06:01:37 PM
Coach Wojo spoke at the Big East Press Conference. But did Coach Wojo speak on 94.5 ESPN with Homer and Tony after the game
Guessing Coach Wojo did not
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 10, 2021, 10:14:19 PM
I've asked before... I don't believe he is...but...the ellipsis style is uncanny...
Dodds burner on Scoop! @Rocky... you have made big time! ;D
No doubt this year has been stressful on college athletes and all the students. That said, the COVID situation is common among all teams. If anything, given MU's spend on our program, we probably had an advantage over most other teams. What I'm concerned about is a weakness at the top of the program. If Wojo is filling the kid's heads with ideas that they have it so hard and this is so tough, they'll follow that loser attitude. Given our up and down performance, I don't blame the team bu the coaching.
I was all for his hire but never understood his last extension given how poorly he's performed. Are we committed to a winning basketball program? If so, Wojo is gone within a week. I don't have a lot of faith here as these MU leaders are the same that ran off Buzz. >:(
Whether it is racial injustice, COVID, mental health or whatever, it always seems there is off-the-court focus that takes the attention and priority away from the team prioritzing winning. Is it great and wonderful that our program is bigger than basketball? Of course it is, but all these other topics clearly affect our kids and program more than other programs - at least that's the narrative being shared, apparently, from those within the program.
Unfortunately, it does beg the question: does our school, leadership, coaches and players actually priotize winning? Or does it want the perception of wanting to win, while really focusing on other areas that can advance the values of the university?
By all accounts, it really does not prioritize winning first and foremost.
Quote from: panda on March 10, 2021, 08:52:43 PM
Why aren't they looking at the comprehensive view of his tenure here. He's stunk for a long time. This season is the tipping point.
Because that would require logic.
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 10, 2021, 08:52:59 PM
Crazy DODDS went waaay off the rails ...
" no other team " went through what
MU did ... " no fans " can imagine it ..
COVID affected MU worse than ANY other team...
Really delusional
Dodds is a joke. No objectivity. He clearly does not was to lose his court side access.
Which of these people/groups deserve sympathy because of COVID or other issues?
A) Wojo
B) The Marquette basketball team
C) Greg Gard cause refs target Davison
D) Meghan Markle
E) Koalas the past year in Australia
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2021, 04:26:44 AM
Which of these people/groups deserve sympathy because of COVID or other issues?
A) Wojo
B) The Marquette basketball team
C) Greg Gard cause refs target Davison
D) Meghan Markle
E) Koalas the past year in Australia
I vote "B" but because of "A", not Covid.
If MU was going to use Covid as their excuse for ineptitude, they should have canceled the entire season, aina?
I don't have a ton of connections but do know someone who teaches at MU that talks to some on the BOT and the COVID excuse being used is being parroted there.
And that's Lovell's point of view, too.
It just doesn't seem like wins and losses matter all that much anymore at MU.
Der ar 68 teems in da Tourney, who unless dropped in Indianapolis from Uranus, experienced covid two, hey?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 11, 2021, 04:26:44 AM
Which of these people/groups deserve sympathy because of COVID or other issues?
A) Wojo
B) The Marquette basketball team
C) Greg Gard cause refs target Davison
D) Meghan Markle
E) Koalas the past year in Australia
E. Koalas are cute and fluffy, which is more than the other choices give us.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 18, 2021, 10:29:21 AM
Der ar 68 teems in da Tourney, who unless dropped in Indianapolis from Uranus, experienced covid two, hey?
'Zaklee
why are facts always alluded to as excuses? Fact: covid was hard on all programs some more than others. Fact Lewis missed efeectively 7 games in the middle of the conference season.Might MU won a couple of those games with him? probably. Nova looks not to good without Gillespie, not an excuse just a fact
Quote from: hawk on March 18, 2021, 02:30:23 PM
why are facts always alluded to as excuses? Fact: covid was hard on all programs some more than others. Fact Lewis missed efeectively 7 games in the middle of the conference season.Might MU won a couple of those games with him? probably. Nova looks not to good without Gillespie, not an excuse just a fact
It goes a lot farther for a coach to admit they could have/should have done better in trying circumstances. No one is going to feel sorry for you when you ask for it
Quote from: hawk on March 18, 2021, 02:30:23 PM
why are facts always alluded to as excuses? Fact: covid was hard on all programs some more than others. Fact Lewis missed efeectively 7 games in the middle of the conference season.Might MU won a couple of those games with him? probably. Nova looks not to good without Gillespie, not an excuse just a fact
Success gets you the benefit of the doubt. Lack of success just gets you the doubt. So why do these come across as excuses? Maybe because the issues this year are the same issues that have plagued the Wojo era without Covid etc.