I have to say I'm super surprised by this.
I'm not
Still could see him getting dismissed or resigning after the season, but I'm sure they want to capitalize on the best this season can be.
Good.
Lib tears are delicious
Fair enough. Finish the season and then figure it out.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 08, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
Good.
Lib tears are delicious
this "lib" isn't crying but rather supportive of the decision, especially in light of the comments by Marcus Zegarowski. Don't lump all of us on the left in with progressives.
It's also pretty obvious that CU made this decision in consultation with the players. If they signed off on it, especially the Black players, then who am I to oppose it.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
this "lib" isn't crying but rather supportive of the decision, especially in light of the comments by Marcus Zegarowski. Don't lump all of us on the left in with progressives.
It's also pretty obvious that CU made this decision in consultation with the players. If they signed off on it, especially the Black players, then who am I to oppose it.
Exactly.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
this "lib" isn't crying but rather supportive of the decision, especially in light of the comments by Marcus Zegarowski. Don't lump all of us on the left in with progressives.
It's also pretty obvious that CU made this decision in consultation with the players. If they signed off on it, especially the Black players, then who am I to oppose it.
Same here. I'm a lib who thought the suspension was nonsense.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 08, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
Good.
Lib tears are delicious
Ignore, yeah you don't care but ::), could you be more tone deaf. I'll let Creighton decide what's best for Creighton. Another post that won't age well, what happened to the T loves the Big East guy (or girl?)
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
this "lib" isn't crying but rather supportive of the decision, especially in light of the comments by Marcus Zegarowski. Don't lump all of us on the left in with progressives.
It's also pretty obvious that CU made this decision in consultation with the players. If they signed off on it, especially the Black players, then who am I to oppose it.
+1
Good for CU. A poor choice of words and a heart felt apology should not out weigh the great guidance, support and opportunities that he has personally given young men of color for years. I dare say he has done as much if not more for African American young men that anybody on this website, myself included.
Quote from: warriorstrack on March 08, 2021, 07:08:37 PM
Ignore, yeah you don't care but ::), could you be more tone deaf. I'll let Creighton decide what's best for Creighton. Another post that won't age well, what happened to the T loves the Big East guy (or girl?)
Pretty sure Jesmu was being sarcastic. And the poster you're questioning is now "The Big East" or occasionally he's Hermain Cain when he rises from the dead.
So McDermott is back on the plantation then?
Wacka
Wacka
Wacka
Sad trombone.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 08, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
So McDermott is back on the plantation then?
Wacka
Wacka
Wacka
Sad trombone.
Toooo Sooon
Personally, I think the punishment was appropriate and hopefully he moves forward a little wiser and a little more careful of his word choices. He has done a lot for Creighton, and if the comments turn on him and hurt recruiting, then you can move on from him.
At first, it sounded really bad because I don't recall ever hearing the "stay on the plantation" metaphor. However, "don't go off the reservation" is something I've heard often in my time and I wouldn't be stunned if at some point I used it, without considering it's etymology.
TyTy Washington, #30 player in class of 2021, de-commits from Creighton.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Tyty-Washington-decommitment-Creighton-162221400/
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2021, 02:26:50 PM
TyTy Washington, #30 player in class of 2021, de-commits from Creighton.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Tyty-Washington-decommitment-Creighton-162221400/
MU offered him.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2021, 02:26:50 PM
TyTy Washington, #30 player in class of 2021, de-commits from Creighton.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Tyty-Washington-decommitment-Creighton-162221400/
To be fair, he didn't say why.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2021, 02:26:50 PM
TyTy Washington, #30 player in class of 2021, de-commits from Creighton.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Tyty-Washington-decommitment-Creighton-162221400/
Not a surprise. Whether you personally think what he said is nothing or something is irrelevant. When players start saying no thanks to him, it's time to pull the plug.
Quote from: nyg on March 11, 2021, 02:33:27 PM
MU offered him.
If he signed his NLI, Marquette can't sign him. BE rule (that should go away.)
Looks like he's from Chandler, AZ. Stan would have been able to knock on a few doors I would imagine. The current rule of BE transfers aside.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 11, 2021, 02:33:41 PM
To be fair, he didn't say why.
For sure. I have no idea if it's related to what McDermott said. I just thought this was the best thread for the news.
Could be a kid taking advantage of an opportunity to move to a higher-profile program (looking at you, Tyshawn Taylor).
We were pretty heavy on him originally. Wouldn't mind reaching out if NLI stuff doesn't get in the way.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on March 11, 2021, 03:33:49 PM
We were pretty heavy on him originally. Wouldn't mind reaching out if NLI stuff doesn't get in the way.
Creighton never announced a signing of an NLI by Washington. Seems like Ty Ty gave his commitment around the time the others in his recruiting class signed.
Assuming wojo gets fired, the first filter for our coaching search should be that they're black. The optics of having a white man being in charge of a bunch of mostly black men is just going to continue to get worse and worse. Will be a huge liability in recruiting.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 11, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
Assuming wojo gets fired, the first filter for our coaching search should be that they're black. The optics of having a white man being in charge of a bunch of mostly black men is just going to continue to get worse and worse. Will be a huge liability in recruiting.
Even I would say the first filter should be that they are capable of winning basketball games at a high P6 level. I agree that an institution that has never had a black head coach, and sits in a city of notable race inequality, should be very cognizant of that and do everything to ensure their search incorporates that fact.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 11, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
Assuming wojo gets fired, the first filter for our coaching search should be that they're black. The optics of having a white man being in charge of a bunch of mostly black men is just going to continue to get worse and worse. Will be a huge liability in recruiting.
I think we should hire the best coach for the role, regardless of race? eh?
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 11, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
Assuming wojo gets fired, the first filter for our coaching search should be that they're black. The optics of having a white man being in charge of a bunch of mostly black men is just going to continue to get worse and worse. Will be a huge liability in recruiting.
How about hiring the best candidate? If that's a Black coach, excellent. If that's an Asian, White, mixed-race or Hispanic coach, that's excellent too. I just want a coach who is going to win and represent MU. MU pursued a Black coach the last time around and he bombed his interview.
The idea it will be a "huge liability" in recruiting is laughable. Is Butler out recruiting us? DePaul? Providence? St. John's? Georgetown is ranked just ahead of us per 24/7, but that's because of their one five-star (we have a higher average ranking for the class).
Quote from: #UnleashDiener on March 11, 2021, 05:34:50 PM
I think we should hire the best coach for the role, regardless of race? eh?
With modern day's hyper-focus on race I don't think you can separate those two. How does it look if the university decides the best person for the role is white over all the qualified black coaches? It's pretty problematic.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 11, 2021, 05:42:16 PM
With modern day's hyper-focus on race I don't think you can separate those two. How does it look if the university decides the best person for the role is white over all the qualified black coaches? It's pretty problematic.
Why you trolling?
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on March 11, 2021, 05:42:16 PM
With modern day's hyper-focus on race I don't think you can separate those two. How does it look if the university decides the best person for the role is white over all the qualified black coaches? It's pretty problematic.
Of all the candidates who might be reasonably available to Marquette, who do you think the best one is? Not trying to troll, just curious.