I mean really. Does anyone care? 8-8, a snowball's chance in hell at the tournament, lethargic and boring offense, inconsistent defense, and a coach that's more milquetoast than Caspar Milquestoast. What is there to watch? I'll always take pride in my alma mater, but absent that connection - I have no motivation to even watch.
i tried. sadness ensued
I'll always care. But the enthusiasm is waning.
nope... , but now I think MU may lose players like Dawson and Lewis to transfer cause they don't want to play on such poor teams...
think about it, with no transfer penalty, why would they not want to go to a team that has a chance to win? to a team that has not stunk up the court three years in a row sliding to a bottom feeder in the conference...
Wojo's ceiling most years is the BE Mediocrity trophy (.500 in conference) - these players see it and will want better...
There's no bigger fan than me, but I've never been less interested in an MU game tied under 1 minute. I'll never get to a point where I "hope" they lose for a change to be made, but it's pretty bad now. I don't really care they lost. Wouldn't have made a difference as they are so buried anyway.
Quote from: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 08:40:42 PM
i tried. sadness ensued
JB, I feel exactly the same, but I had to GD laugh when I read the post in print.
Sadly I convinced myself to turn it on and watch the overtime. Earlier tonight I attended an outdoor high school hockey game and that was far more enjoyable. My interest level is falling off the table rapidly.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 27, 2021, 08:41:54 PM
I'll always care. But the enthusiasm is waning.
Ditto and this is coming from a huge fanatic. Wojo has slowly been sucking the life and fun out of living and dying with each game. Now its ehhh, another loss, another ho hum season, another clunker of a finish and undoubtedly it will be the same next year. But hey lets keep bringing him back. We have become the Cubs. Wait until next year.......
"Seven years of college down the drain"
John "Blutto" Blutarski
Johnny B....the new JB.
At least the Cubs have 2016. What's Wojo's 2016?
Quote from: Eye on January 27, 2021, 08:49:09 PM
At least the Cubs have 2016. What's Wojo's 2016?
2045?
I care, but only because I'm bored, stuck at home, and have nothing better to do.
The no fans in the stands thing has also taken a toll on my enjoyment.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 27, 2021, 08:43:58 PM
There's no bigger fan than me, but I've never been less interested in an MU game tied under 1 minute. I'll never get to a point where I "hope" they lose for a change to be made, but it's pretty bad now. I don't really care they lost. Wouldn't have made a difference as they are so buried anyway.
You weren't interested in a how a tied game with under a minute left will turn out?? I don't understand that.
If any college game is tied under a minute...I'm interested.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 27, 2021, 08:42:05 PM
nope... , but now I think MU may lose players like Dawson and Lewis to transfer cause they don't want to play on such poor teams...
think about it, with no transfer penalty, why would they not want to go to a team that has a chance to win? to a team that has not stunk up the court three years in a row sliding to a bottom feeder in the conference...
Wojo's ceiling most years is the BE Mediocrity trophy (.500 in conference) - these players see it and will want better...
So next year the 7-man rotation might be:
- Greg
- Symir
- Jose
- Dexter
- Oso
- Stevie
- Jonas
One wonders how that would work.
Quote from: Goose on January 27, 2021, 08:46:49 PM
Sadly I convinced myself to turn it on and watch the overtime. Earlier tonight I attended an outdoor high school hockey game and that was far more enjoyable. My interest level is falling off the table rapidly.
MUHS vs USM?
5Dollar
The lack of fans definitely makes it less enjoyable.
Quote from: Eye on January 27, 2021, 08:49:09 PM
At least the Cubs have 2016. What's Wojo's 2016?
2010 when he was with the Dukies, riding on Coach K's coattails.
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 27, 2021, 08:50:41 PM
You weren't interested in a how a tied game with under a minute left will turn out?? I don't understand that.
If any college game is tied under a minute...I'm interested.
Sure but it's just so inconsequential. Interested to see how it all turns out as much as one can be, but caring what happens? Why would you?
Miss Katie's
Yes. Great rink and set up. Winter Club did a great job with the rink.
Quote from: Goose on January 27, 2021, 08:54:21 PM
Miss Katie's
Yes. Great rink and set up. Winter Club did a great job with the rink.
Agreed. Excellent work there and great place to watch a game.
Miss katies
USM fan or MUHS?
I care, but I think its more habit and nostalgia. Sure isn't enjoyment or entertainment at this point.
No
Quote
Quote from: Goose on January 27, 2021, 08:58:59 PM
Miss katies
USM fan or MUHS?
MUHS. But my daughter has friends/former teammates from her co-ed club hockey days who play for both, so always entertaining.
You?
Miss Katie's
My son played at USM and is now the goalie coach. The boys ended up with a big win. In OT. All of our kids played hockey and always enjoyed the games with MUHS. I wish I had stayed for the whole game but I was not dressed properly. Plus I am west side guy and had a drive to get home to catch the end of the MU game.
Marquette basketball is about as enjoyable as explosive diarrhea right now.
Nope
Quote from: Goose on January 27, 2021, 09:39:45 PM
Miss Katie's
My son played at USM and is now the goalie coach. The boys ended up with a big win. In OT. All of our kids played hockey and always enjoyed the games with MUHS. I wish I had stayed for the whole game but I was not dressed properly. Plus I am west side guy and had a drive to get home to catch the end of the MU game.
Awesome. I've spent a lot of time in that USM rink over the years, and it's one of the coldest ones around. But not nearly as cold as being outside tonight ;D
Quote from: Eye on January 27, 2021, 08:49:09 PM
At least the Cubs have 2016. What's Wojo's 2016?
He hasn't had the opportunity to have 100+ years of losing yet. Although at this rate.... :-\
Quote from: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
LOL dont go there pal
Where is JayBee these days? I've hardly been on this board this season.
Quote from: onepostdavis on January 27, 2021, 10:16:00 PM
Where is JayBee these days? I've hardly been on this board this season.
idk banned i think
This board is for mostly the die hards of this program. If we're disinterested, imagine the casual MU fan, or bandwagon MU backer. MU needs their interest too. We're not a 40,000 undergrad enrollment state school. They didn't know there was a game tonight.
We'll be about as relevant to the WI and Milwaukee sports scene as UWM if Lovell and Scholl don't pull the plug on this guy soon.
Quote from: Bart Fargo on January 27, 2021, 09:40:22 PM
Marquette basketball is about as enjoyable as explosive diarrhea right now.
I'd take explosive diarrhea everyday for the rest of my life over one more game with Wojo as MU's head basketball coach. When we lose to DePaul again I might literally lose my crap.
Yes. Next question
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 27, 2021, 08:53:43 PM
Sure
That's what I was thinking as well...but thanks for answering for anyone and everyone.
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Quote from: Goose on January 27, 2021, 08:53:12 PM
5Dollar
The lack of fans definitely makes it less enjoyable.
That's on Wojo. I hate him.
I wouldn't still be here if I didn't care. Just because it's hard to watch doesn't mean I can or will stop watching.
Always.
Yes.
Like many of you, I am losing interest real fast. The last several years at least we had a player in Markus that made every game must-watch. Now...who do you all tune in to see play? Theo? One Carton play each game?
I don't know that I'll watch another game. I've been a season ticket holder since birth. I met Al 10-15 times as a kid, attended practices when TC and Buzz were at MU, received a grad degree from MU, etc. The only thing keeping me watching is I like the players and staff as people. They are really good representatives of the university, and maybe that along with Wojo's mediocre success should be good enough, but I'm having a hard time wanting to delay what I have come to believe is inevitable. I TRULY hope I'm wrong, but I also hope I don't have to sit through 3-4 more years of this. Both parties should move on. I'll enjoy watching a new coach try to build a program more than I will watching Wojo sustain these results.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 27, 2021, 11:19:33 PM
I wouldn't still be here if I didn't care. Just because it's hard to watch doesn't mean I can or will stop watching.
Dammit, I can't stop. I almost wish I could.
Lately, it's like punishment.
Clearly we care or why are we watching games and visiting MUScoop?
Much better ways to use our time than for things we don't even care about.
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 28, 2021, 08:20:09 AM
Clearly we care or why are we watching games and visiting MUScoop?
Much better ways to use our time than for things we don't even care about.
We care about #mubb. We don't care about watching a Wojo coached team anymore.
Thank you for the clarification.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 27, 2021, 11:19:33 PM
I wouldn't still be here if I didn't care. Just because it's hard to watch doesn't mean I can or will stop watching.
That's where I am. It's getting hard to watch and I'll admit that recently I've been looking at my phone as much or more than the game I'm "watching." I watch out of habit. In the past, I'd only skip a game for a serious conflict and I'd carefully avoid seeing a score so I could watch it later without knowing the ending. At this point, I suspect that if a game conflicts with something else even remotely interesting, I'll skip the game and will probably either zoom through it on DVR or check the final score and decide if I want to watch (and probably still zoom through it if I
do decide to watch).
For the record, I'm all USM all the time, hey?
Quote from: SaveOD238 on January 28, 2021, 07:53:59 AM
Like many of you, I am losing interest real fast. The last several years at least we had a player in Markus that made every game must-watch. Now...who do you all tune in to see play? Theo? One Carton play each game?
That one Carton play is always legit though.
I care, it my alma mater and want them to be successful. But don't care to emotionally invest myself into this team vs care that MUBB hoops doesn't drop any lower are two different things.
Doc
The boys beat MUHS in double OT. State is coming up and gunning for fourth state title in last 15 years.
USM's program and facilities is the gold standard.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 28, 2021, 08:00:56 AM
I don't know that I'll watch another game. I've been a season ticket holder since birth. I met Al 10-15 times as a kid, attended practices when TC and Buzz were at MU, received a grad degree from MU, etc. The only thing keeping me watching is I like the players and staff as people. They are really good representatives of the university, and maybe that along with Wojo's mediocre success should be good enough, but I'm having a hard time wanting to delay what I have come to believe is inevitable. I TRULY hope I'm wrong, but I also hope I don't have to sit through 3-4 more years of this. Both parties should move on. I'll enjoy watching a new coach try to build a program more than I will watching Wojo sustain these results.
Like Brother Avid, I have been a fan since I was old enough to know what a basketball was. My father was an MU Engineering grad and followed the team in the pre-Al days, actually traveling to road games when they were near Nashville. Over the years, my brothers and I or my parents traveled to road games and tournament games when Marquette was in the region when Al was coach. It's what you did when you supported both a university's vision and ideals and its basketball team. When I was at Marquette, I never missed a game -- ever! We knew we had something special back then.
I've been an avid fan since then. But, I have to admit, the only time I was more down on our team was during the Dukiet years. It's as if the university just didn't give a damn anymore. The difference is Dukiet was a lousy recruiter and a lousy coach. I rather think Coach Wojo has assembled the beginnings of a very good team with this bunch, assuming they evolve and we can hold them together. We're not getting any better this year and we're not developing talent the way we should. There just isn't a go-to- guy that's a reliable source for points.
It's really scary when people like Brother Goose become disinterested.
I'm bummed out and I've lost confidence in this team. It's a month until spring training starts (we hope) and I get into the baseball groove. In the meantime, it's water torture to see a proud, winning program look like Marquette does. I'll always follow and be appreciative of Marquette, but I'm not flying halfway across the USA to see them until things change. I might watch them on TV, but then again, if there's a good edition of American Greed on, maybe not!
Like watchin' dead plant life, aina?
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 27, 2021, 08:41:54 PM
I'll always care. But the enthusiasm is waning.
This. Fairly numb to the suckage at this point.
My brother talked me into joining his NBA fantasy team, so for the first time I have been watching a lot of NBA basketball. Half way through the first half of last nights game, I was thinking why am I bothering to watch such horrible basketball. Even if we won last night, it still would have been bad basketball.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 28, 2021, 11:20:13 AM
This. Fairly numb to the suckage at this point.
I used to plan my days around MU hoops, to the point it upset my wife, even though she was a fan too. Our first date was to the MU/Notre Dame when we retired #77. Last night I figured it was better to stay at work and get some stuff done instead of watching. My wife decided to workout during that time. Not the first time one of us has chosen that route this season. Apathy is the worst thing that can happen to a program and that's happening.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 01:42:16 PM
I used to plan my days around MU hoops, to the point it upset my wife, even though she was a fan too. Our first date was to the MU/Notre Dame when we retired #77. Last night I figured it was better to stay at work and get some stuff done instead of watching. My wife decided to workout during that time. Not the first time one of us has chosen that route this season. Apathy is the worst thing that can happen to a program and that's happening.
Yep. And these are the diehards.
I still watch all the games, but just pay way less attention in between games. Never in my fandom have I been more checked out or cared less. My wife, also an MU alum, saw me mopping around a couple hours after the game last night and said this "Don't let it ruin your night anymore babe, they've sucked for awhile now." And it sunk it. They have sucked for a long time and it blows.
Winning always helps, let's be honest it's a different product on TV with no fans, bands, cheerleaders and such as well. Losing makes it to a point of who cares.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 28, 2021, 01:54:49 PM
Winning always helps, let's be honest it's a different product on TV with no fans, bands, cheerleaders and such as well. Losing makes it to a point of who cares.
Eh, the lack of fans has been something I've been able to get over pretty quickly. I think the impact is pretty minimal for basketball and football. I think baseball it was incredibly noticeable.
The on court product just isn't exciting. We make the same turnovers and mistakes every game. When we get up, it's hoping we don't blow the lead. When we get down, we usually make it interesting but shoot ourselves in the foot. We've seen the movie before and it's not a good one.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 28, 2021, 08:54:33 AM
We care about #mubb. We don't care about watching a Wojo coached team anymore.
I don't understand how you reconcile those two in real life. If you care about MU basketball, I would think you would still care about this Wojo-coached team...because like it or not, they ARE MU basketball at least until the end of the season.
I understand the anger and frustration, but at the end of the day these kids still wear uniforms that say Marquette on the front, and I will cheer for them until my kids pull the plug.
I guess it comes down to the fact I have more important things in my life than watching a poorly coached team lose to inferior talent. Or you could say I am showing the same level of apathy as the current administration when it comes to #mubb.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 28, 2021, 01:59:40 PM
Eh, the lack of fans has been something I've been able to get over pretty quickly.
Agreed. I was plenty excited watching the Wisconsin game.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 28, 2021, 03:08:35 PM
I guess it comes down to the fact I have more important things in my life than watching a poorly coached team lose to inferior talent. Or you could say I am showing the same level of apathy as the current administration when it comes to #mubb.
Where does the narrative that the current administration is apathetic about basketball come from? People keeping posting this but have yet to offer any evidence.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 28, 2021, 03:36:31 PM
Where does the narrative that the current administration is apathetic about basketball come from? People keeping posting this but have yet to offer any evidence.
People don't like Lovell. I can kinda understand that stance.
Or Scholl. But I don't understand that one
I am a proud Marquette grad and have been a fan of Marquette hoops, through thin and thinner, for nearly 50 years.
So yes, I care. I will watch every game and will pull for my alma mater to win every one of them.
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 28, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
People don't like Lovell. I can kinda understand that stance.
Or Scholl. But I don't understand that one
I've had plenty of fellow alums talk badly about Lovell in generalities. Can anyone give some details of what isn't liked about him and his leadership at MU (other than the fiscal issues, which are probably more COVID related than anything)
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 04:56:23 PM
I've had plenty of fellow alums talk badly about Lovell in generalities. Can anyone give some details of what isn't liked about him and his leadership at MU (other than the fiscal issues, which are probably more COVID related than anything)
I'd like to hear it, too.
I mean, he's got "Love" right in his name!
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 01:42:16 PM
I used to plan my days around MU hoops
I was the same way, BH, but yesterday was different and weird.
Different because it was the first MU @ PC game I haven't been to in over a decade. Weird because after the DePaul debacle I had to give some thought (admittedly not a hell of a lot) to not watching as I was rather dispirited. Then last night they poured salt in the wounds. I actually took some solace in the fact that there was no game this weekend, but of course I'll be at the TV for St. John's -moth to flame, with similar results.
I will always root for MU. Have to be there through thick and thin.
That said , my rooting interest right now is for Wojo to do well enough to justify another school that needs a Mr Clean image at Head Coach, to hire him away from MU.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 28, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
People don't like Lovell. I can kinda understand that stance.
Or Scholl. But I don't understand that one
Hmm let's see...
Notre Dame, never see him at games, completely silent to the perpetual suckage of the team, no sports have been really "great" under his watch.
I've always hated Bucky but at least Alvarez is a jovial figure that pushes his programs for greatness. Scholl is just another straight laced shill that's part of the admin's nice-guy-ification of the University. He's Wojo with a front office job.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 04:56:23 PM
I've had plenty of fellow alums talk badly about Lovell in generalities. Can anyone give some details of what isn't liked about him and his leadership at MU (other than the fiscal issues, which are probably more COVID related than anything)
There's just something "fake" about Lovell, Scholl, Wojo. "Nice guys" that know how to take a picture for the front page. No substance beyond that.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 28, 2021, 06:49:37 PM
Hmm let's see...
Notre Dame, never see him at games, completely silent to the perpetual suckage of the team, no sports have been really "great" under his watch.
I've always hated Bucky but at least Alvarez is a jovial figure that pushes his programs for greatness. Scholl is just another straight laced shill that's part of the admin's nice-guy-ification of the University. He's Wojo with a front office job.
How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?
Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 06:57:56 PM
How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?
Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.
Oh Wades....
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 28, 2021, 06:51:20 PM
There's just something "fake" about Lovell, Scholl, Wojo. "Nice guys" that know how to take a picture for the front page. No substance beyond that.
Badgers blow, and though a crook, at least Alvarez seems like a fun crook. Lovell, Scholl...liberal hacks that are fake as hell. That's one reason Lovell can't fund raise to save his life. The more conservative right leaning corporate world isn't impressed. Marquette University as a whole, not just Marquette basketball, has suffered under his stewardship.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 28, 2021, 01:54:49 PM
Winning always helps, let's be honest it's a different product on TV with no fans, bands, cheerleaders and such as well. Losing makes it to a point of who cares.
Both teams are playing with no band, fans or students. Why are we pathetic?
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 04:56:23 PM
I've had plenty of fellow alums talk badly about Lovell in generalities. Can anyone give some details of what isn't liked about him and his leadership at MU (other than the fiscal issues, which are probably more COVID related than anything)
He is a very poor fundraiser. One of his key roles is to raise the big money. Wild was excellent at that. Lovell, not so much. Have you ever been at an event with him? I have been to several, some small dinner events. Can you say no personality? He could not work a room if his life depended on it. You are correct, some of the near term fiscal issues are Covid related. Demographics do not favor the small ,private University right now. Lovell has not been effective in developing relationships that Marquette needs for long term fiscal prosperity.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 28, 2021, 07:15:16 PM
He is a very poor fundraiser. One of his key roles is to raise the big money. Wild was excellent at that. Lovell, not so much. Have you ever been at an event with him? I have been to several, some small dinner events. Can you say no personality? He could not work a room if his life depended on it. You are correct, some of the near term fiscal issues are Covid related. Demographics do not favor the small ,private University right now. Lovell has not been effective in developing relationships that Marquette needs for long term fiscal prosperity.
Fr Wild embraced Fr Naus's mantra of make the person feel important. While I am not a big pockets donor, every time I saw Fr Wild, including running into him at senior day game last year, he always remembered me, asked about my family.
Lovell have never said anything beyond empty "go Marquette" and similar. Rode the elevator and walked for coffee with him at the Gaylord last Thanksgiving tourney there. Bland, boring small talk.
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 06:57:56 PM
Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.
Not for long if the hoops program doesn't bring in the money.
So, he is into Catholic social teaching, the wrong kind of schmoozer and isn't raising enough money.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 28, 2021, 07:15:16 PM
He is a very poor fundraiser. One of his key roles is to raise the big money. Wild was excellent at that. Lovell, not so much. Have you ever been at an event with him? I have been to several, some small dinner events. Can you say no personality? He could not work a room if his life depended on it. You are correct, some of the near term fiscal issues are Covid related. Demographics do not favor the small ,private University right now. Lovell has not been effective in developing relationships that Marquette needs for long term fiscal prosperity.
Sounds like Father DiUllio.
Or Father Pilarz.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2021, 07:34:48 PM
So, he is into Catholic social teaching, the wrong kind of schmoozer and isn't raising enough money.
You can be into Catholic social teaching and still be a charismatic leader. The suggestion that we need to accept the robotic, disconnected "nice-guy" being shoved down our throat because he's a good Catholic is so misguided. The BOT hired a guy that has no "it factor", he hired a bunch of high-profile guys with no "it factor", now the university is teetering on the edge of relevance. But Catholic social teaching, right?
I still care. That is why I email president@marquette.edu
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 28, 2021, 07:11:56 PM
Both teams are playing with no band, fans or students. Why are we pathetic?
My statement was do I care. Yes, I care about the college game. Just not the same viewing experience. Losing for Marquette makes the experience worse.
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 06:57:56 PM
How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?
Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.
Ah wades, the last bastion of the projos.
I'm really glad that mu soccer, lacrosse, and volleyball are doing amazing. I'm sure their 2000 fans are thrilled.
Quote from: #UnleashDiener on January 28, 2021, 08:10:47 PM
Ah wades, the last bastion of the projos.
I'm really glad that mu soccer, lacrosse, and volleyball are doing amazing. I'm sure their 2000 fans are thrilled.
I didn't say a word about Wojo. The post had nothing to do with Wojo. That wasn't even the topic of discussion. You should read the post that was quoted.
Quote from: Badgerhater on January 28, 2021, 07:30:59 PM
Not for long if the hoops program doesn't bring in the money.
Which doesn't change the fact that the idea "no sports have been good under his watch" is completely inaccurate.
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 08:49:27 PM
Which doesn't change the fact that the idea "no sports have been good under his watch" is completely inaccurate.
Who said those words in quotation marks? I know I didn't...??
Can't even get the thesis right Wades - you've lost your touch.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 28, 2021, 08:58:44 PM
Who said those words in quotation marks? I know I didn't...??
Can't even get the thesis right Wades - you've lost your touch.
Sorry. "Great." Theres 0 doubt that the athletic programs are doing "great" compared to what they were outside of men's basketball. But it doesn't fit the agenda that everyone at Marquette sucks so 5Dollar will post 876 times between now and Marquette's next win. Then he will be nowhere to be found because he's got so many important things to do, which only come up when Marquette wins.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 28, 2021, 07:24:55 PM
I am not a big pockets donor
Lovell have never said anything beyond empty "go Marquette" and similar. Rode the elevator and walked for coffee with him at the Gaylord last Thanksgiving tourney there. Bland, boring small talk.
I think the answer is contained in your post.
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 09:03:26 PM
Sorry. "Great." Theres 0 doubt that the athletic programs are doing "great" compared to what they were outside of men's basketball. But it doesn't fit the agenda that everyone at Marquette sucks so 5Dollar will post 876 times between now and Marquette's next win. Then he will be nowhere to be found because he's got so many important things to do, which only come up when Marquette wins.
Am I to spar with you and others about whether a 2pt win at St John means anything more than the paper it was printed on?
The Georgetown win was a precursor to the horrifying DePaul loss. I showed up after that win and was crucified for criticizing the team and coach. You've been proven wrong in your stance 15 different ways. What's the point?
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 28, 2021, 07:03:33 PM
Oh Wades....
I still care...I care that 5DollarBitcher seems to really be mad this time! I don't like that!!
Quote from: Jables1604 on January 28, 2021, 09:15:06 PM
I still care...I care that 5DollarBitcher seems to really be mad this time! I don't like that!!
Pitcher*
Sorry. Autocorrect.
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 08:49:27 PM
Which doesn't change the fact that the idea "no sports have been good under his watch" is completely inaccurate.
Other sports don't matter
Quote from: BLM on January 28, 2021, 06:57:56 PM
How many school's presidents are out speaking about the state of their athletic teams when they're underperforming?
Marquette's sports outside of men's basketball are significantly better as a whole than they were a decade ago.
I'm not saying they're bad but soccer was ranked like second in the country when I was there I think it was 7 or 8yrs ago and we haven't touched that since. In fact I believe we won the BE in Men's and Women's the same year.
WBB is obviously considerably better, MLax is highly debatable but I'll chalk it up to coaching change, my fiancé said that WVB is better and that seems like something you'd know. Idk about track or golf and obviously MBB is in purgatory.
point is it doesn't seem up across the board as you indicate.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 28, 2021, 09:11:47 PM
Am I to spar with you and others about whether a 2pt win at St John means anything more than the paper it was printed on?
The Georgetown win was a precursor to the horrifying DePaul loss. I showed up after that win and was crucified for criticizing the team and coach. You've been proven wrong in your stance 15 different ways. What's the point?
What?
5$: Other Marquette sports aren't "great."
Me: Well, they're significantly better in just about every other sport than they have been in a long time.
5$ (and Unleash): You're such a Projo and you're so wrong about it him!
Well, you got me!
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on January 28, 2021, 06:49:37 PM
Hmm let's see...
Notre Dame, never see him at games, completely silent to the perpetual suckage of the team, no sports have been really "great" under his watch.
I didn't go to any games last season (new baby means no cross country travel). But I've been to dozens since Scholl was hired and seen him at every one of them.
There are a few wild cards out there, but 99% of ADs tend to not bash their coaches in public. Not sure why you would expect different.
Men's basketball hasn't been great on his watch but other sports have been at all time highs (Women's basketball, LAX, volleyball). I get that men's basketball is the one that counts but to say "no sports" isn't correct.
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I have decided I can be a fan of the Jesuit school basketball team of the state I live in - Gonzaga. At least until Marquette basketball becomes relevant again which is likely 2 years post firing Wojo.
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 30, 2021, 08:46:07 PM
I have decided I can be a fan of the Jesuit school basketball team of the state I live in - Gonzaga. At least until Marquette basketball becomes relevant again which is likely 2 years post firing Wojo.
So you're a front runner. Good luck to your new favorite team. Well, favorite team until Few leaves and they fall back, and maybe Marquette is better then. Then you'll root for Marquette again.
Marquette better than Gonzaga - has that happened in the last 7 years? Will that happen anytime that under Wojo? Does not seem like Few is interested in going anywhere. Seems like a safe bet.
Look - the question in the post "Does anyone care anymore?" I don't really care anymore with the results Wojo has shown in 7 years, why not watch entertaining basketball instead of the crap fest Wojo has served up?
Quote from: WithoutBias on January 30, 2021, 08:53:18 PM
So you're a front runner. Good luck to your new favorite team. Well, favorite team until Few leaves and they fall back, and maybe Marquette is better then. Then you'll root for Marquette again.
Speaking of Gonzaga, why is their program so much better than Marquette's program? It is 1000% the head coach? Could be. They play in a mid major conference that in no way compares to the Big East. Milwaukee isn't the greatest city, but it is "major league" compared to Spokane.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 28, 2021, 04:56:23 PM
I've had plenty of fellow alums talk badly about Lovell in generalities. Can anyone give some details of what isn't liked about him and his leadership at MU (other than the fiscal issues, which are probably more COVID related than anything)
Just ask John McAdams.
Quote from: WarriorHal on January 30, 2021, 09:56:47 PM
Speaking of Gonzaga, why is their program so much better than Marquette's program? It is 1000% the head coach? Could be. They play in a mid major conference that in no way compares to the Big East. Milwaukee isn't the greatest city, but it is "major league" compared to Spokane.
mostly a great coach. idk how to even really describe it. its like a perfect storm at the right time thing. you have a great coach. the program gets really hot for a few years. you get national attention. the coach and program for prolly a few reasons gets considered elete. few is now considered one of the best. its seen as a dominant program. the recruits start comin in easier. youre getting talked about like crazy and you reach a level of sustainabilty. idk lol thats the best i got