https://gocreighton.com/news/2020/12/17/creighton-to-begin-limited-fan-attendance-at-mens-basketball-games.aspx
A scalper's dream!!!
How do conferences not have a conference rule on this? Why should one conference team get to have some fans, while others don't allow any fans in the building?
Quote from: BLM on December 17, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
How do conferences not have a conference rule on this? Why should one conference team get to have some fans, while others don't allow any fans in the building?
I know Big 10 football had a conference rule but BEAST basketball must not. I don't see the state of WI allowing any fans all season so we'll be at a bit of a disadvantage to others who do.
Quote from: BLM on December 17, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
How do conferences not have a conference rule on this? Why should one conference team get to have some fans, while others don't allow any fans in the building?
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It's Nebraska, it's Nebraska.
Dumb.
Quote from: tower912 on December 17, 2020, 02:38:17 PM
Dumb.
Exactly. It's an indoor sporting event. With only 10% capacity I'm sure it's fairly safe, and I'd hope they have a plan in place to make sure people are coming in at certain times and getting to their seats spread out so hallways aren't filled up. But even so, the vaccine is coming. The season is already crazy. Why can't we just wait this thing out and come back next November to full arenas? Just seems unnecessary. But they're not alone.
If I were the Big East, this would be a hard no. I'm glad we already played there. If I had a team taking a road trip there, that would also be a hard no.
Quote from: BLM on December 17, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
How do conferences not have a conference rule on this? Why should one conference team get to have some fans, while others don't allow any fans in the building?
Guessing it's hard to have a conference rule, while cities have different rules.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 17, 2020, 03:12:53 PM
Guessing it's hard to have a conference rule, while cities have different rules.
The BE could most certainly say "no fans at BE games." The Big Ten did this for football games regardless of the local rules.
We beat them so badly that they decided they needed to have fans there to keep it from happening again
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 17, 2020, 03:16:25 PM
The BE could most certainly say "no fans at BE games." The Big Ten did this for football games regardless of the local rules.
Of course they could. Glad they don't. That wasn't the question that was asked.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 17, 2020, 03:22:53 PM
Of course they could. Glad they don't. That wasn't the question that was asked.
I misunderstood the intent of your statement. I get what you are saying now.
I've attended about 50 youth basketball games since June so I would feel fine going, but I think you need to close the concession stands.
No food, no drink. Don't give people a reason to drop their mask.
(Also make sure every fan shot guns 12 beers outside so they're well lubed and ready to rumble)
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 17, 2020, 03:12:53 PM
Guessing it's hard to have a conference rule, while cities have different rules.
Which is why the conferences should have a rule. No fans.
saw this on r/CollegeBasketball and the first response is "that's a higher capacity than their free throw percentage"
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Quote from: The Lens on December 17, 2020, 03:28:11 PM
I've attended about 50 youth basketball games since June so I would feel fine going, but I think you need to close the concession stands.
No food, no drink. Don't give people a reason to drop their mask.
(Also make sure every fan shot guns 12 beers outside so they're well lubed and ready to rumble)
I don't think fans should be allowed, but if they are, this should be the rule. Give fans no reasons to drop their masks, and immediately eject them if they do.
Quote from: naginiF on December 17, 2020, 04:38:27 PM
saw this on r/CollegeBasketball and the first response is "that's a higher capacity than their free throw percentage"
Oof, well played
Quote from: BLM on December 17, 2020, 04:29:40 PM
Which is why the conferences should have a rule. No fans.
Thanks for your thought. Noted.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 17, 2020, 02:50:10 PM
If I were the Big East, this would be a hard no. I'm glad we already played there. If I had a team taking a road trip there, that would also be a hard no.
Disagree, Brother Brew. Depends less on whether you have fans and more about HOW you have fans. If the social distancing is there; if the precautions are reasonable and if the seats closest to the teams are blocked off, not sure I see a problem.
Ive spent a good part of my fall in Florida and otherwise live in Illinois. The difference is stark. In Florida, bars and restaurants are open and have been continuously since May. In Illinois, nothing has been open even though a couple of counties around Chicago have met criteria to reopen. Yet, Floridas infection rate is half that of Illinois.
What we do in Florida is what I described for opening an arena. Check the social distancing, see if staff is wearing masks and do things like good hygiene on a regular basis.
No, you have been lied to about florida's rate of infection.
DePaul hasn't played a game yet but Creighton wants to allow fans. Utter stupidity.
Quote from: The Lens on December 17, 2020, 03:28:11 PM
I've attended about 50 youth basketball games since June so I would feel fine going, but I think you need to close the concession stands.
No food, no drink. Don't give people a reason to drop their mask.
(Also make sure every fan shot guns 12 beers outside so they're well lubed and ready to rumble)
Tonight at Ten: A reoccurring nightmare I caught COVID waiting to use the urinal!
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2020, 07:34:44 AM
No, you have been lied to about florida's rate of infection.
DePaul hasn't played a game yet but Creighton wants to allow fans. Utter stupidity.
Ding ding ding.
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2020, 07:34:44 AM
DePaul hasn't played a game yet but Creighton wants to allow fans. Utter stupidity.
It's not like fans will be courtside to effect DePaul. You can space out 10% in a 19k building.
I'm actually surprised that most schools are not allowing 10 to 20 percent of fans. Very socially distanced, masks, no eating/drinking per above. No yelling. No fun allowed.
The irony is that the top donors would probably be the one's who get tickets. And these also tend to be the older more vulnerable people. And if there were some how a covid outbreak due to attending games, colleges would be killing off their biggest financial supporters....
So, maybe it isn't such a great idea :)
Now, allowing a few "special" big time donors, I would say is a no brainer. The top 1% should be rewarded with the option to attend.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 18, 2020, 10:57:49 AM
It's not like fans will be courtside to effect DePaul. You can space out 10% in a 19k building.
If you can't get teams cleared to play, how can you make the argument for fans? It isn't about DePaul, per se. How many games have been cancelled involving UConn or Butler or Xavier?
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2020, 07:34:44 AM
No, you have been lied to about florida's rate of infection.
I believe we've all been lied to about everybody's rate of infection.
So, in that sense, I agree with you.
I could be wrong but I think Xavier has been allowing fans all year. I think they are only allowing 300-500 fans, though.
They should just play games at Costco or Home Depot, aina?
Quote from: BM1090 on December 18, 2020, 12:22:51 PM
I could be wrong but I think Xavier has been allowing fans all year. I think they are only allowing 300-500 fans, though.
If accurate, that would be proving my point, as they are now coming off a shut down.
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2020, 12:32:49 PM
If accurate, that would be proving my point, as they are now coming off a shut down.
Looks like they had 300 vs. Oklahoma.
I don't think fans should be allowed at games yet, but I also doubt that the presence of fans and the Xavier team shutdown are related.
If a city/state ordinance allows for limited spectators, why wouldn't they be allowed to have fans? Just because certain locations prevent it doesn't mean that the entire league (or other programs) should be penalized for it. Other conferences are allowing for limited fans as well. Seems like an overreach to argue for the Big East to mandate all teams not allowing fans.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on December 18, 2020, 12:55:24 PM
If a city/state ordinance allows for limited spectators, why wouldn't they be allowed to have fans? Just because certain locations prevent it doesn't mean that the entire league (or other programs) should be penalized for it. Other conferences are allowing for limited fans as well. Seems like an overreach to argue for the Big East to mandate all teams not allowing fans.
It's 2020, we have a lot bigger problems than if some school has a slight home court advantage because of 2000 fans.
That said, my life has pretty much gone back to normal with exception of: indoor dining / hanging out in bars / multi-household indoor gatherings. As I said above, I've sat through 50+ games since June indoors. If I can watch hoops in the Pleasant Prairie Rec Plex (pretty good grades) or
COVID Center Court (terrible place), I know I can be safe in the FF. Mask up!
Quote from: BrewCity83 on December 18, 2020, 12:15:09 PM
I believe we've all been lied to about everybody's rate of infection.
So, in that sense, I agree with you.
Your beliefs don't matter.
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2020, 07:34:44 AM
No, you have been lied to about Florida's rate of infection.
I do not doubt that there have been miscalculations and liberties taken with defining and not defining a Covid-19 death in Florida and elsewhere. People have different perspectives and, at some point, judgments have to be made. But to assume that the government of the State of Florida is systematically and openly lying to the citizenry for nearly a year is as absurd as suggesting the Democratic Party orchestrated a secret multi-state vote fraud conspiracy aimed at ensuring the defeat of the Republican candidate for President.
Neither happened.
I would repeat my point from earlier. It's up to each of us, no matter where we are, to take reasonable, effective precautions to protect ourselves and our fellow persons from Covid-19. If you don't like the thought of being in a basketball arena, don't go. But it's up to an individual Big East school to ensure that if they admit fans, that they're taking precautions. It's the honorable thing to do and it prevents them from being sued later on.