We need a gold t-shirt giveaway... apparently about 50% of the people at the game don't have one! Jesus Christ people... get with the program! Wear a damn Gold t-shirt!!
BTW... per ESPN, 50% of the Bradley Center was empty at tip-off!! Before any alums bitch about the quality of the student section, look in the damn mirror.
sorry folks... pissed about the game. >:(
I think the bad weather in Milwaukee may have contributed to the lack of crowd, but I'm with you, those that were able to make it to the game totally missed the memo. Gold out failed miserably.
Quote from: wheresthecake? on February 04, 2008, 08:27:17 PM
I think the bad weather in Milwaukee may have contributed to the lack of crowd, but I'm with you, those that were able to make it to the game totally missed the memo. Gold out failed miserably.
What bad weather? It's high 30s without snow/rain since about 2pm.
Freezing rain makes it hard to travel long distances, like my family was planning on for this game but decided not too because of bad roads.
Quote from: wheresthecake? on February 04, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Freezing rain makes it hard to travel long distances, like my family was planning on for this game but decided not too because of bad roads.
There's been very little precipitation in Milwaukee since 2PM. Everyone from Illinois said the roads were fine.
Don't play the poor crowd on the weather. It's Winter.
Weather or not, if you go to the damn game, make a damn effort to wear something GOLD!!
It wasn't bad weather .. it's the 6pm start. People get out of work at 5pm, try to get home, try to get to the game. It's tough.
.. The students pissed me off the most. Full lower bowl, upper was maybe 20% full. For Louisville? Are you serious? Is there a better game to go to? Seriously, WTF?? Why did you even buy tickets? Time to stop that #1 student section in the nation crap. -- We have 1500 great student fans and what, like 4000 student tickets sold? That leaves an awful lot of fair weather fans.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 04, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
It wasn't bad weather .. it's the 6pm start. People get out of work at 5pm, try to get home, try to get to the game. It's tough.
.. The students pissed me off the most. Full lower bowl, upper was maybe 20% full. For Louisville? Are you serious? Is there a better game to go to? Seriously, WTF?? Why did you even buy tickets? Time to stop that #1 student section in the nation crap. -- We have 1500 great student fans and what, like 4000 student tickets sold? That leaves an awful lot of fair weather fans.
6PM on a Monday generally doesn't work for students either. I'm not sticking up for the student section, but Monday night classes are more common than uncommon. Of course, classes are classes.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 04, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
It wasn't bad weather .. it's the 6pm start. People get out of work at 5pm, try to get home, try to get to the game. It's tough.
.. The students pissed me off the most. Full lower bowl, upper was maybe 20% full. For Louisville? Are you serious? Is there a better game to go to? Seriously, WTF?? Why did you even buy tickets? Time to stop that #1 student section in the nation crap. -- We have 1500 great student fans and what, like 4000 student tickets sold? That leaves an awful lot of fair weather fans.
I'm a student and I totally agree with your assessment. I heard a lot of lame ass excuses today. I can't believe our students don't get behind this team more, it's not like we have any other sports to cheer for. I don't know what it takes to get people out, this is definitely a huge rivalry game. Pathetic showing by the team and the fans.
It's a good thing they didn't give out shirts, or the students might have copied Duke and thrown them on the court. Of course, Duke responded by playing a dominant second half and we would have continued to look flat.
Actually I think everyone in the building needs help with their wardrobe...
Fans aren't able to wear gold. Even when it isn't a "gold out" game they usually find it hard to wear some team colors.
Even some students think they'll stick out better if they wear a blue shirt during a "gold out", and can't use the excuse that they don't have a gold shirt when gold shirts are provided to them several times a year.
Players seem to have the "even if we lose, we still look good" attitude with those flashy uniforms. Give me plain uniforms and a flashy team please.
The cheerleaders' new uniforms are pretty ugly.
The dance team's uniforms look like the sweats girls wear to the library on Sunday afternoons.
I did know of a few students that couldn't make it because of late Monday classes. With holidays that cancel Monday classes a few times this semester it makes it difficult for professors to cancel additional Monday classes for any reason.
Quote from: chapman on February 04, 2008, 09:17:09 PM
It's a good thing they didn't give out shirts, or the students might have copied Duke and thrown them on the court. Of course, Duke responded by playing a dominant second half and we would have continued to look flat.
Actually I think everyone in the building needs help with their wardrobe...
Fans aren't able to wear gold. Even when it isn't a "gold out" game they usually find it hard to wear some team colors.
Even some students think they'll stick out better if they wear a blue shirt during a "gold out", and can't use the excuse that they don't have a gold shirt when gold shirts are provided to them several times a year.
Players seem to have the "even if we lose, we still look good" attitude with those flashy uniforms. Give me plain uniforms and a flashy team please.
The cheerleaders' new uniforms are pretty ugly.
The dance team's uniforms look like the sweats girls wear to the library on Sunday afternoons.
I did know of a few students that couldn't make it because of late Monday classes. With holidays that cancel Monday classes a few times this semester it makes it difficult for professors to cancel additional Monday classes for any reason.
Library? Sunday? What?
I disagree... I see A LOT of Green & Gold when the Packers play. The fans at our games are weak... stop with the blue denim shirts and black jeans! support the damn team with some gold!
I agree and what the hell is with people who show up with a shirt and tie on???Its not so hard to throw some gear in a bag and change at the office before heading on down to the BC!
I agree get some gold on and be in your seat at tip!
I was equally disappointed in the shirt colors.. would put the gold blanket at maybe 60%.. MAYBE.. and that's ignoring the suits who probably came straight from work... I saw MU fans wearing red for fricks sake.. RED! I saw Wisconsin shirts there too.. geez..
then they did the "party row" shirt give away...
the shirts they gave away were navy blue..
the mascot gave it to a row that had a guy wearing RED in it....?!?!
the shirts that came down from the rafters in the parachutes.. yep navy blue too...
the shirts they shot out of the (IMHO very disappointing) shirt gun.. WHITE...
this totally isn't organized.. pick a color and stick with it.. heck bus loads of the people (including the national anthem chorus) were wearing those powder blue anniversary shirts..
It's not just in the bradley center either.. rocky and I drove through campus earlier too.. in that 2 minute drive we saw:
1 person wearing an Iowa Hawkeyes shirt
1 person wearing UWM sweatpants
1 person wearing a Notre Dame sweatshirt
several UW hats
ugh!
that's why, homely tho they may be, the vest is okay; leave the office, pull off the tie, hang sportcoat in car/pull on vest and 'presto!'
i agree with a lot that's been said.
bad attendence i blame on the start time. 6pm is rough for anyone. hell, i get off work @ 6p. a lot of students i know have the philosophy, if you're not there early for the lower bowl, it's not worth it (for those who don't know, is like two different worlds). so you're talking about doors opening @ 4:30p and lots of students are still in class, just getting done, or in desperate need of food.
the biggest problem with the colors is that MU can't commit to one. they have to push both blue and gold. seems like the athletic department refuses to push one color for games. Duke, Mich St. push white at games; Indiana, Wisc, Cinci, UL, push red; Kansas, dark blue; UCLA, baby blue. MU seems destined to have a 50/50 gold/blue (both baby and dark).
a problem with the shirt giveaways, is the way they do them. having to go to the lobby and get them. it's nie for people trying to get the size that they want, but the lines get too long, people start taking multiple shirts for "family members". what they need to do is have the shirts put on all the seats before the game. takes too long you say? when they've put the poms on the seats in the past, they've had the BC cleaning staff do it the nite before (work force of 30+).
Yes the different colors pose a problem. However, I'm real fricking tired of all the gold shirts. Outside the BC and campus, they are ugly. The print fades extremely fast with the yellow background and they turn into garbage shirts more fitting for car waxing than wearing.
on another note, i've been disappointed by the crowds the last 3-4yrs for MU games. the student section gets less and less involved. used to be the entire lower bowl s.s. would jump and be crazy, not it really only the group on the floor and the first few rows of the seats.
part of the reason is, they've gotten them less involved. my freshman yr, they used to use the blimps to fly over and drop tickets or other gifts on the crowd. there's restrictions on when students can line up. the admin stresses that give-aways (t-shirts, those little plastic basketballs) go to the 'other fans'. they're quick to take down signs that even hint at something that isn't "PG" ('Catholics vs Convicts' was my favortie when Cinci came here in 05?).
the loudest you ever hear the rest of the crowd is when they "boo" something. sure they stand up and clap when there's some kind of run, but it's hardly ever something that is one of those really special moments (UConn, Novak beating ND, Cinci in '03, UL- pick, one are a few of those times where those moments happen).
the thing about MU, is it's more about the image than it is the game. that's why the many of the older fans don't sport the yellow ts. look around the arena, it's like a business meeting or a sunday at chruch the way people are dressed up. noting is wrong with jeans, tennis shows, and a yellow t-shirt at a basketball game. no one will think less of you because you don't have slacks, loafers, and a collared shirt on, if they do.... F*** 'EM!
sorry, this isn't one of my normal classy posts, but one of the coolest things i've been been to in college sports was the NIT championship game @ Kansas St when the MU women played them. 90% of the 12,000+ K-St fans had purple on, and whenever a K-St player shot a 3, everyone... and i mean EVERYONE stood up with one arm in the air (ref style), and if it hit, raised the other and yelled "THREE" together. for a person like me who is mezmorized by the college atmosphere, i was speechless at just how amazing it was.
Quote from: marqptm on February 04, 2008, 11:10:08 PM
Yes the different colors pose a problem. However, I'm real fricking tired of all the gold shirts. Outside the BC and campus, they are ugly. The print fades extremely fast with the yellow background and they turn into garbage shirts more fitting for car waxing than wearing.
You're right. And as far as the BC giving away dark blue and white shirts, I would be game. As a student, I wouldn't even want another gold shirt. In my time at MU, my counts says I received 2 free dark blue shirts, 2 free light blue shirts, and 9 free gold shirts. The only original ideas were the Wade shirts from two years ago and the long-sleeve light blue shirts given away at Madness this year. I'd rather they did the Duke route and got an environmental group to give away free green t-shirts for everyone than have another generic gold shirt.
I drove up from Chicago - foggy but no big deal. Parked at MU campus and walked to teh game - weather should not have kept people away....
Quote from: muPARTY on February 04, 2008, 11:27:45 PM
on another note, i've been disappointed by the crowds the last 3-4yrs for MU games. the student section gets less and less involved. used to be the entire lower bowl s.s. would jump and be crazy, not it really only the group on the floor and the first few rows of the seats.
part of the reason is, they've gotten them less involved. my freshman yr, they used to use the blimps to fly over and drop tickets or other gifts on the crowd. there's restrictions on when students can line up. the admin stresses that give-aways (t-shirts, those little plastic basketballs) go to the 'other fans'. they're quick to take down signs that even hint at something that isn't "PG" ('Catholics vs Convicts' was my favortie when Cinci came here in 05?).
the loudest you ever hear the rest of the crowd is when they "boo" something. sure they stand up and clap when there's some kind of run, but it's hardly ever something that is one of those really special moments (UConn, Novak beating ND, Cinci in '03, UL- pick, one are a few of those times where those moments happen).
the thing about MU, is it's more about the image than it is the game. that's why the many of the older fans don't sport the yellow ts. look around the arena, it's like a business meeting or a sunday at chruch the way people are dressed up. noting is wrong with jeans, tennis shows, and a yellow t-shirt at a basketball game. no one will think less of you because you don't have slacks, loafers, and a collared shirt on, if they do.... F*** 'EM!
sorry, this isn't one of my normal classy posts, but one of the coolest things i've been been to in college sports was the NIT championship game @ Kansas St when the MU women played them. 90% of the 12,000+ K-St fans had purple on, and whenever a K-St player shot a 3, everyone... and i mean EVERYONE stood up with one arm in the air (ref style), and if it hit, raised the other and yelled "THREE" together. for a person like me who is mezmorized by the college atmosphere, i was speechless at just how amazing it was.
Granted Duke has a small arena, but EVERYONE does the "Let's go Doooook" chant, nearly everytime they have the ball. We can't even get half the student section to clap to the fight song much less more than 1 in 20 non-students. Plus besides heckling the refs we have no cheers that get through. Of course we could always copy Louisville's stupid bird thing, since I think our mascot is a bird of some kind...wait, nobody cares about that so it becomes one less thing we can rally around. Perhaps some new cheers could be instituted at midnight madness next year instead of showing us karate and how to almost tip an ATV when we came to see basketball.
The student section is somewhat alienated from giveaways or anything else that really gets them into the game besides picking someone who usually would less embarrass themselves by doing a potty shot to try to win free tuitition (tonight making my argument less effective). Plus, as the story of BC security taking paper scraps away from students proves, more focus has been put on babysitting students rather than allowing them to have fun.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 04, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
It wasn't bad weather .. it's the 6pm start. People get out of work at 5pm, try to get home, try to get to the game. It's tough.
.. The students pissed me off the most. Full lower bowl, upper was maybe 20% full. For Louisville? Are you serious? Is there a better game to go to? Seriously, WTF?? Why did you even buy tickets? Time to stop that #1 student section in the nation crap. -- We have 1500 great student fans and what, like 4000 student tickets sold? That leaves an awful lot of fair weather fans.
I was also disappointed with the students. Of my group of friends that normally go to games i had to BEG people to go with me and many of them came up with lame excuses. We played Louisville tonight, not USF!!!!!!!
Quote from: chapman on February 04, 2008, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: muPARTY on February 04, 2008, 11:27:45 PM
on another note, i've been disappointed by the crowds the last 3-4yrs for MU games. the student section gets less and less involved. used to be the entire lower bowl s.s. would jump and be crazy, not it really only the group on the floor and the first few rows of the seats.
part of the reason is, they've gotten them less involved. my freshman yr, they used to use the blimps to fly over and drop tickets or other gifts on the crowd. there's restrictions on when students can line up. the admin stresses that give-aways (t-shirts, those little plastic basketballs) go to the 'other fans'. they're quick to take down signs that even hint at something that isn't "PG" ('Catholics vs Convicts' was my favortie when Cinci came here in 05?).
the loudest you ever hear the rest of the crowd is when they "boo" something. sure they stand up and clap when there's some kind of run, but it's hardly ever something that is one of those really special moments (UConn, Novak beating ND, Cinci in '03, UL- pick, one are a few of those times where those moments happen).
the thing about MU, is it's more about the image than it is the game. that's why the many of the older fans don't sport the yellow ts. look around the arena, it's like a business meeting or a sunday at chruch the way people are dressed up. noting is wrong with jeans, tennis shows, and a yellow t-shirt at a basketball game. no one will think less of you because you don't have slacks, loafers, and a collared shirt on, if they do.... F*** 'EM!
sorry, this isn't one of my normal classy posts, but one of the coolest things i've been been to in college sports was the NIT championship game @ Kansas St when the MU women played them. 90% of the 12,000+ K-St fans had purple on, and whenever a K-St player shot a 3, everyone... and i mean EVERYONE stood up with one arm in the air (ref style), and if it hit, raised the other and yelled "THREE" together. for a person like me who is mezmorized by the college atmosphere, i was speechless at just how amazing it was.
Granted Duke has a small arena, but EVERYONE does the "Let's go Doooook" chant, nearly everytime they have the ball. We can't even get half the student section to clap to the fight song much less more than 1 in 20 non-students. Plus besides heckling the refs we have no cheers that get through. Of course we could always copy Louisville's stupid bird thing, since I think our mascot is a bird of some kind...wait, nobody cares about that so it becomes one less thing we can rally around. Perhaps some new cheers could be instituted at midnight madness next year instead of showing us karate and how to almost tip an ATV when we came to see basketball.
The student section is somewhat alienated from giveaways or anything else that really gets them into the game besides picking someone who usually would less embarrass themselves by doing a potty shot to try to win free tuitition (tonight making my argument less effective). Plus, as the story of BC security taking paper scraps away from students proves, more focus has been put on babysitting students rather than allowing them to have fun.
Our cheers suck. That's because we don't have any that are original to Marquette minus our fight song. It's so lame. I agree with you 100% here, it's kind of hard for the student section to get excited about chanting "defense" or whatever else kind of crap the cheerleaders do. We need something unique to Marquette, there is zero creativity or unity in our student section right now.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 04, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
The students pissed me off the most. Full lower bowl, upper was maybe 20% full. For Louisville? Are you serious? Is there a better game to go to? Seriously, WTF?? Why did you even buy tickets? Time to stop that #1 student section in the nation crap. -- We have 1500 great student fans and what, like 4000 student tickets sold? That leaves an awful lot of fair weather fans.
Maybe the students knew the beating was coming?
Quote from: wheresthecake? on February 04, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Freezing rain makes it hard to travel long distances, like my family was planning on for this game but decided not too because of bad roads.
I drove in from La Crosse today and had ZERO problems with the roads.
I will never wear gold to a game. Why would I listen to their request when Marquette doesn't listen to alumni?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 08:06:18 AM
I will never wear gold to a game. Why would I listen to their request when Marquette doesn't listen to alumni?
How about you get past your personal biases, support the team, and show some unity for Marquette? There aren't many more adamant supporters of the Warriors nickname but I still wear a Gold shirt... it just has the Warriors logo on it! If you're a fan of Marquette Basketball, it makes no sense to not wear a Gold shirt. If you're not a fan of the current team, give your tix to someone that will be there and support the team. And yes... wearing a Gold shirt is one of the ways to support the team and players.
So wearing a blue "Marquette" sweatshirt isn't supporting the team?
PRN, I actually wear different blue/gold striped shirts in honor of the "bumble bee" uniforms..., (while confessing to an occaisional plain gold shirt or vest).
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
So wearing a blue "Marquette" sweatshirt isn't supporting the team?
Answer this... did the Basketball program ask the fans to support them yesterday by wearing Gold? "Be Bold, Wear Gold"
Maybe a better show of support would have been to stick around to the end of the game. Not counting the band, there was maybe 15,000+ who had left the BC. It was as miserable a home game as I have witnessed in over 40 years, but we did play hard to the end. Maybe MU should have colored the empy seats gold?
no one here should be blaming anyone in the student section or the alumnis for not dressing in gold. I for one, while not at marquette still, had no idea that we were supposed to wear Gold. maybe a little marketing would help this out. Second, i think its a little ridiculous to ask a fan base to stand unified when marquette cannot be unified in its own. three years ago we were the gold for 6 days. When we finally get over that nuclear bomb, the school brings in the baby blues from the '77 championship year. then, this year they are bringing in redesigned jerseys in four colors. I wear my baby blue wes jersey every game, that doesnt make me less of a fan. The university needs to establish a stable group of colors for their team. You can not introduce a new color every year and expect there to be any singular color at a game. Green and Gold is different because they have been the colors of the packers forever.
get off of our backs about not golding out the BC.
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
So wearing a blue "Marquette" sweatshirt isn't supporting the team?
Answer this... did the Basketball program ask the fans to support them yesterday by wearing Gold? "Be Bold, Wear Gold"
Did 94 percent of Marquette alumni tell the administration that they preferred Warriors?
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
So wearing a blue "Marquette" sweatshirt isn't supporting the team?
Answer this... did the Basketball program ask the fans to support them yesterday by wearing Gold? "Be Bold, Wear Gold"
Did 94 percent of Marquette alumni tell the administration that they preferred Warriors?
PRN... you're barking up the wrong tree. First of all, I don't really remember much of your support when we were fighting the administration with new-warriors.com. Secondly, what does that have to do with wearing Gold to the game yesterday?
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on February 05, 2008, 12:21:19 PM
no one here should be blaming anyone in the student section or the alumnis for not dressing in gold. I for one, while not at marquette still, had no idea that we were supposed to wear Gold. maybe a little marketing would help this out. Second, i think its a little ridiculous to ask a fan base to stand unified when marquette cannot be unified in its own. three years ago we were the gold for 6 days. When we finally get over that nuclear bomb, the school brings in the baby blues from the '77 championship year. then, this year they are bringing in redesigned jerseys in four colors. I wear my baby blue wes jersey every game, that doesnt make me less of a fan. The university needs to establish a stable group of colors for their team. You can not introduce a new color every year and expect there to be any singular color at a game. Green and Gold is different because they have been the colors of the packers forever.
get off of our backs about not golding out the BC.
I agree with some of your points and would understand if not everybody heard about the Gold-out (I got an email from gomarquette). That said, I think Coach Crean has made it pretty clear what color he wants the Bradley Center to be and if you've been to a game, approximately 50% of the people are in Gold. Doesn't take much to figure out which color you should probably wear...
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Did 94 percent of Marquette alumni tell the administration that they preferred Warriors?
Another Warriors supporter here, but to answer your question: absolutely not. Not even close. As difficult as it is for me to believe or understand, the vast majority of Marquette alumni don't give a damn about this issue. Many of the ones that do -- like me -- feel very strongly about it. But most simply don't care. I happen to live with a Marquette alum who doesn't care and thinks I'm a bit silly for caring so much about it. Fortunately, she let me cast her vote (thus skewing the results ever so slightly).
I live in NE Ohio and attend most of the Marquette alumni events in the area. By definition, the people who attend these events regularly are more actively engaged with Marquette than those who don't. When I bring up the mascot issue -- and plenty of people will tell you that I ALWAYS bring it up -- I get very little interest or support. My experience -- and yours may vary -- is that most alums simply don't care. I wish they did, but they don't. I've tried to get them to care, but they don't. You can argue that the people who care about the issue are boycotting the events because they're angry at the University, but I really don't think that's the case.
I recall that the feedback on the University surveys showed a lot of support for the Warriors name, but that only reflected the feedback of people who care enough about the issue to bother responding (and was skewed by people like me who responded twice). I don't recall what percentage didn't even respond, but I suspect it was a majority. Does anyone remember?
I think it's a travesty that we can't get the name changed back, but I will not delude myself into believing that a large majority of alums even care about the issue -- much less want to have the name changed back. I will agree, however, that a large majority of people who do care about the mascot do want the name changed back.
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:37:04 PM
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on February 05, 2008, 12:21:19 PM
no one here should be blaming anyone in the student section or the alumnis for not dressing in gold. I for one, while not at marquette still, had no idea that we were supposed to wear Gold. maybe a little marketing would help this out. Second, i think its a little ridiculous to ask a fan base to stand unified when marquette cannot be unified in its own. three years ago we were the gold for 6 days. When we finally get over that nuclear bomb, the school brings in the baby blues from the '77 championship year. then, this year they are bringing in redesigned jerseys in four colors. I wear my baby blue wes jersey every game, that doesnt make me less of a fan. The university needs to establish a stable group of colors for their team. You can not introduce a new color every year and expect there to be any singular color at a game. Green and Gold is different because they have been the colors of the packers forever.
get off of our backs about not golding out the BC.
I agree with some of your points and would understand if not everybody heard about the Gold-out (I got an email from gomarquette). That said, I think Coach Crean has made it pretty clear what color he wants the Bradley Center to be and if you've been to a game, approximately 50% of the people are in Gold. Doesn't take much to figure out which color you should probably wear...
so because 50% of the people are wearing gold while, presumably, 16.5% are wearing white, blue, baby blue. I should just go with the mob? thats your argument. I will tell you what if the team wanted everyone to wear gold... i think that the midnight madness shirt would have been in gold and not baby blue. i would think the spirit shop wouldnt be offering as many items in other colors than gold.
unfortunatly marquette cares about the best opportunity to make money, not to unify the stands for games. Thats not our fault. if they really wanted to be sure they were going to gold out the stands... do what the heat did when they whited out their stands.... put the shirts on the seats.
Wear Gold. Period. It shows a unified fan base, and pumps the team.
Think about it for just a second and picture this: If you were a player and walked out of the tunnel to 19,000 strong wearing nothing but gold and yelling for your team...I'd be pretty pumped.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:45:30 PM
I recall that the feedback on the University surveys showed a lot of support for the Warriors name, but that only reflected the feedback of people who care enough about the issue to bother responding (and was skewed by people like me who responded twice). I don't recall what percentage didn't even respond, but I suspect it was a majority. Does anyone remember?
Around 65% of people didn't respond overall, and the number went up in the 2second stage when the choice was between Hilltoppers and Golden Eagles. That includes alumni, students, and others that were sent the survey.
This team is a branding continuity nightmare in almost every single arena right now. Maybe I wouldn't pick up on this if I didn't work in marketing and brand strategy, but one of the goals of a brand is to present a unified front.
That simply isn't happening, from vehicle window stickers (new MU monogram and the Golden Eagle both make regular appearances) to the fans in the Bradley Center (wearing officially licensed apparel in at least white, gold, gray, dark blue, and light blue, if not others).
The end result is an organization with little brand image. If MU wanted to ensure a gold-out, it should have handed out 19,000 gold t-shirts, because there's a great chance that nobody else is wearing the gold.
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
So wearing a blue "Marquette" sweatshirt isn't supporting the team?
Answer this... did the Basketball program ask the fans to support them yesterday by wearing Gold? "Be Bold, Wear Gold"
Did 94 percent of Marquette alumni tell the administration that they preferred Warriors?
PRN... you're barking up the wrong tree. First of all, I don't really remember much of your support when we were fighting the administration with new-warriors.com. Secondly, what does that have to do with wearing Gold to the game yesterday?
Are you the guy that sat on the name change committee and laid down on the issue because some of the administration told you to? If so, that sure was a "fight."
Quote from: Marquette Gyros on February 05, 2008, 01:06:12 PM
This team is a branding continuity nightmare in almost every single arena right now. Maybe I wouldn't pick up on this if I didn't work in marketing and brand strategy, but one of the goals of a brand is to present a unified front.
That simply isn't happening, from vehicle window stickers (new MU monogram and the Golden Eagle both make regular appearances) to the fans in the Bradley Center (wearing officially licensed apparel in at least white, gold, gray, dark blue, and light blue, if not others).
The end result is an organization with little brand image. If MU wanted to ensure a gold-out, it should have handed out 19,000 gold t-shirts, because there's a great chance that nobody else is wearing the gold.
THANK YOU.
Quote from: bma725 on February 05, 2008, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:45:30 PM
I recall that the feedback on the University surveys showed a lot of support for the Warriors name, but that only reflected the feedback of people who care enough about the issue to bother responding (and was skewed by people like me who responded twice). I don't recall what percentage didn't even respond, but I suspect it was a majority. Does anyone remember?
Around 65% of people didn't respond overall, and the number went up in the 2second stage when the choice was between Hilltoppers and Golden Eagles. That includes alumni, students, and others that were sent the survey.
If I'm reading the data (http://www.mu.edu/opa/newsroom/nickname/results2.shtml)correctly, then only 7% of alumni responded to the survey (see also here (http://www.mu.edu/opa/newsroom/nickname/demographics.shtml)). According to the link, 67% of the respondents were alumni, but only 7% of the alumni responded. So, while it is true that 92% of alumni responding (http://www.mu.edu/opa/newsroom/nickname/c2.shtml) identified with the Warriors nickname, less than 10% of alumni cared enough about the issue to respond at all. I don't remember everything Dr. Griffin taught me about polling/surveys (hell, I'm not sure I remember any of it), but I really don't buy the line of thinking that if 92% or alumni
respondents identify with the Warriors name, then 92% of
all alumni identify with the name. I think it's inarguable that a certain number of individuals who chose not to respond made that choice because they could not possibly care less about the issue. Those that responded to the survey did so because they cared strongly one way or the other.
So, what we're left with is the fact that the survey revealed that 92% of the 7% of alumni who responded (somewhere in the vicinity of 5% of total alumni) responded that they identify with the Warriors nickname.
Of course I acknowledge that some of those who did not respond also "identify" with the Warriors nickname, and failed to respond for other reasons.
Quote from: Eye on February 05, 2008, 05:05:33 AM
Quote from: wheresthecake? on February 04, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Freezing rain makes it hard to travel long distances, like my family was planning on for this game but decided not too because of bad roads.
I drove in from La Crosse today and had ZERO problems with the roads.
no problems from madison either (Duh ZFB, if Eye made it in from LAX, then you should be able to make it from Madison. Screw you ZFB, what if the beltline was bad?)
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 01:10:01 PM
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 05, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
So wearing a blue "Marquette" sweatshirt isn't supporting the team?
Answer this... did the Basketball program ask the fans to support them yesterday by wearing Gold? "Be Bold, Wear Gold"
Did 94 percent of Marquette alumni tell the administration that they preferred Warriors?
PRN... you're barking up the wrong tree. First of all, I don't really remember much of your support when we were fighting the administration with new-warriors.com. Secondly, what does that have to do with wearing Gold to the game yesterday?
Are you the guy that sat on the name change committee and laid down on the issue because some of the administration told you to? If so, that sure was a "fight."
You are truly clueless... why don't you just answer the Gold question and stop trying to turn this into a Warriors discussion? ?-(
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: LastWarrior on February 05, 2008, 12:11:14 PM
First of all, I don't really remember much of your support when we were fighting the administration with new-warriors.com. Secondly, what does that have to do with wearing Gold to the game yesterday?
You are truly clueless... why don't you just answer the Gold question and stop trying to turn this into a Warriors discussion? ?-(
Who turned this into a Warriors discussion?
In answer to your question about wearing Gold...it's my personal opinion that being told what to wear is about as juvenile as it comes. I do not need instruction (nor do I need instruction on when to stand or sit) and it doesn't make me any less of a fan if I wear a blue Marquette shirt. This entire thing is ridiculous as is the suggest that an entire arena of yellow-shirted fans would have made a difference in last night's game.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 05, 2008, 02:49:55 PM
Quote from: Eye on February 05, 2008, 05:05:33 AM
Quote from: wheresthecake? on February 04, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
Freezing rain makes it hard to travel long distances, like my family was planning on for this game but decided not too because of bad roads.
I drove in from La Crosse today and had ZERO problems with the roads.
no problems from madison either (Duh ZFB, if Eye made it in from LAX, then you should be able to make it from Madison. Screw you ZFB, what if the beltline was bad?)
Wtf? DId you have a stroke in the middle of this post?