https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/16/depaul-lawsuit-title-ix-coach-abuse-softball-players/
If JLP survives this, she's Rasputin.
The coach in question is JLP's brother. Allegations he punched players and assistant coaches and called them "f***ing whores." I'd be shocked if she survives this one.
The lawsuit claims JLP put "winning at all costs" above everything. Evidently the basketball program never got the message.
DePaul alums just got some great news during this difficult time. This is probably better news for them than getting Carton is for us. No way JLP should survive this.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 17, 2020, 09:38:27 AM
No way JLP should survive this.
Never underestimate JLP. This is someone who got Dave Leitao an extension for four straight last place finishes and had the president of the university sign the contract.
She's also the one whose sister-in-law won the contract for the naming rights to Wintrust Arena.
"The Chief Marketing Officer from Wintrust Bank has confirmed that Wintrust Executive Vice President and sister-in-law of DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto, Kandace Lenti, was involved in the multi-million dollar Wintrust Arena naming rights agreement. DePaul officials have also confirmed that Jean Lenti Ponsetto never officially disclosed a conflict of interest form before engaging in the deal."
https://depauliaonline.com/33672/news/a-voice-for-the-voiceless/
Had dinner with a connected DePaul guy before the @ DeP game. About 8 of us. Guy said Leito will get an extension, and JLP is gone. Everyone laughed.
He took some crap from DeP and MU alums. He said just wait.
Quote from: We R Final Four on April 17, 2020, 06:02:33 PM
Had dinner with a connected DePaul guy before the @ DeP game. About 8 of us. Guy said Leito will get an extension, and JLP is gone. Everyone laughed.
He took some crap from DeP and MU alums. He said just wait.
Why would you extend Leitao under
any circumstances? What, someone is going to steal away a 60 year old coach with a five year BE record of 19-71?
Quote from: DFW HOYA on April 17, 2020, 09:18:54 PM
Why would you extend Leitao under any circumstances? What, someone is going to steal away a 60 year old coach with a five year BE record of 19-71?
How much time was left on his deal? If he had 3 years left with a big buyout, I could see extending him a year to give him more money in the short term while reducing the buyout in case he didn't turn it around to make a firing more fiscally viable.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 17, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
How much time was left on his deal? If he had 3 years left with a big buyout, I could see extending him a year to give him more money in the short term while reducing the buyout in case he didn't turn it around to make a firing more fiscally viable.
I think I saw he was in the last year of his deal or only had one year left. Don't quote me on that, but I thought I saw that somewhere.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 17, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
How much time was left on his deal? If he had 3 years left with a big buyout, I could see extending him a year to give him more money in the short term while reducing the buyout in case he didn't turn it around to make a firing more fiscally viable.
What are these big buyouts? It's been said about Wojo too. Schools just pay the remainder of the contract. Coaches have to pay a buyout. I don't get it.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2020, 09:32:01 AM
The lawsuit claims JLP put "winning at all costs" above everything. Evidently the basketball program never got the message.
You're on a roll today.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2020, 09:32:01 AM
The lawsuit claims JLP put "winning at all costs" above everything. Evidently the basketball program never got the message.
DePaul has a great women's BB program, a good Softball team, a good women's soccer team. That's what she hung her hat on. It's like when I worked at Pepsi in Chicago. We had Gatorade (the monster profit making shining star), Tropicana, and Quaker. Her leadership success would have been Gatorade imploding and losing all market share but Quaker granola bars and Tropicana single serve juices being relatively successful.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2020, 09:32:01 AM
The lawsuit claims JLP put "winning at all costs" above everything. Evidently the men's basketball program never got the message.
FIFY
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 17, 2020, 09:43:24 PM
What are these big buyouts? It's been said about Wojo too. Schools just pay the remainder of the contract. Coaches have to pay a buyout. I don't get it.
Paying the remainder of the contract is buying the contract out. The school can negotiate to pay a smaller percentage if they choose to part ways. Maybe a 1-year buyout, a percentage of the remaining, or a set amount.
So if DePaul had to pay the full balance on a 3-year contract, they couldn't afford to buy him out. But they could hypothetically negotiate to add a year to the contract, give an extra 5% each year, but if they fire him they only pay half the remaining deal. Good for Leitao because he gets a longer deal and more money if he succeeds, good for DePaul because they can get rid of him cheaper if he doesn't.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on April 17, 2020, 05:51:58 PM
Never underestimate JLP. This is someone who got Dave Leitao an extension for four straight last place finishes and had the president of the university sign the contract.
She's also the one whose sister-in-law won the contract for the naming rights to Wintrust Arena.
"The Chief Marketing Officer from Wintrust Bank has confirmed that Wintrust Executive Vice President and sister-in-law of DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto, Kandace Lenti, was involved in the multi-million dollar Wintrust Arena naming rights agreement. DePaul officials have also confirmed that Jean Lenti Ponsetto never officially disclosed a conflict of interest form before engaging in the deal."
https://depauliaonline.com/33672/news/a-voice-for-the-voiceless/
This one alone should put her on the termination path.
Quote from: TedBaxter on April 19, 2020, 07:01:39 AM
This one alone should put her on the termination path.
Not in Chicago it wouldn't.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 18, 2020, 07:45:35 PM
Paying the remainder of the contract is buying the contract out. The school can negotiate to pay a smaller percentage if they choose to part ways. Maybe a 1-year buyout, a percentage of the remaining, or a set amount.
So if DePaul had to pay the full balance on a 3-year contract, they couldn't afford to buy him out. But they could hypothetically negotiate to add a year to the contract, give an extra 5% each year, but if they fire him they only pay half the remaining deal. Good for Leitao because he gets a longer deal and more money if he succeeds, good for DePaul because they can get rid of him cheaper if he doesn't.
Makes sense. I thought people thought the schools had to pay a true buyout 'penalty'. The coaches do have to.
When Dave Leitao was hired in 2015, the athletic director said her expectation was to "win now." And in 2020?
"I didn't mean we were going to win the next day or win right away, but that we would do our best to build the program."
https://depauliaonline.com/47951/sports/5-years-after-hiring-dave-leitao-depaul-still-stuck-in-the-bottom-of-the-big-east/
Quote from: DFW HOYA on April 20, 2020, 12:48:22 PM
When Dave Leitao was hired in 2015, the athletic director said her expectation was to "win now." And in 2020?
"I didn't mean we were going to win the next day or win right away, but that we would do our best to build the program."
https://depauliaonline.com/47951/sports/5-years-after-hiring-dave-leitao-depaul-still-stuck-in-the-bottom-of-the-big-east/
Apparently at DePaul, "now" really means "hopefully before you die if it isn't too much trouble."
Quote from: JWags85 on April 18, 2020, 12:12:13 AM
DePaul has a great women's BB program, a good Softball team, a good women's soccer team. That's what she hung her hat on. It's like when I worked at Pepsi in Chicago. We had Gatorade (the monster profit making shining star), Tropicana, and Quaker. Her leadership success would have been Gatorade imploding and losing all market share but Quaker granola bars and Tropicana single serve juices being relatively successful.
Exactly. They range from good to very good in programs that bleed money and almost nobody cares about. They are world class awful in the the one that is supposed to pay for the rest. Fireable.
MBB winning is NOT one of her objectives. Team GPA and graduation rates are,
This has been hammered on the DPU Populace ad nauseam..
Those aren't mutually exclusive objectives.
retiring
WeAreDePaul.com
@WeAreDePaul
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Multiple sources have confirmed to http://WeAreDePaul.com that DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto is retiring after 18 years as AD at the university.
Quote from: muguru on June 04, 2020, 08:58:24 PM
retiring
WeAreDePaul.com
@WeAreDePaul
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Multiple sources have confirmed to http://WeAreDePaul.com that DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto is retiring after 18 years as AD at the university.
If true the Sleeping Giant will soon be awaken.
Thank goodness. A chance for that program to turn the page.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 04, 2020, 09:10:41 PM
If true the Sleeping Giant will soon be awaken.
Hope not...hoping they get another AD that doesn't care about BB results. DePaul is just fine the way they are.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on June 04, 2020, 09:14:25 PM
Thank goodness. A chance for that program to turn the page.
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.
Quote from: THRILLHO on June 04, 2020, 09:29:19 PM
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.
I would think this certainly means Leitao's days are numbered.
Quote from: THRILLHO on June 04, 2020, 09:29:19 PM
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.
Good point. It starts at the top.
Retiring ::)
Quote from: We R Final Four on April 17, 2020, 06:02:33 PM
Had dinner with a connected DePaul guy before the @ DeP game. About 8 of us. Guy said Leito will get an extension, and JLP is gone. Everyone laughed.
He took some crap from DeP and MU alums. He said just wait.
Quote from: We R Final Four on June 04, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
I remember your Post very well, I tried to confirm but could not. Thanks for your post.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 04, 2020, 09:10:41 PM
If true the Sleeping Giant will soon be awaken.
Sure. I've heard this for 25 years or so. I'll believe it when I see it.
Have the names of any potential replacements surfaced? I don't know much about how AD searches work, but I assume there are similarities to coaching searches. Doubt DePaul can get a current AD from a big program, so their candidate pool is current ADs at lower level schools or deputy ADs from bigger programs.
Quote from: asdfasdf on June 05, 2020, 08:44:14 AM
Have the names of any potential replacements surfaced? I don't know much about how AD searches work, but I assume there are similarities to coaching searches. Doubt DePaul can get a current AD from a big program, so their candidate pool is current ADs at lower level schools or deputy ADs from bigger programs.
The sent out a press release saying they will run a national search. I think the quality of candidate will depend on how much leeway they give them to make changes.
Go after Loyola's?
Great time for the Big Donors to put the Pressure On.
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too?? ;D
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too?? ;D
Why shouldn't they think big and not settle in
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too?? ;D
Why should DePaul settle for mediocrity
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 05, 2020, 11:26:38 AM
Why shouldn't they think big and not settle in
Why should DePaul settle for mediocrity
Because they have to..they are below a mediocre program. Big difference when comparing DePaul to 100's of other D1 school's.
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:39:24 AM
Because they have to..they are below a mediocre program. Big difference when comparing DePaul to 100's of other D1 school's.
No, they don't
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 05, 2020, 11:40:54 AM
No, they don't
Yes they do...I'm not doing this with you Rico...you just do crap like this just to start crap. They are DuhPaul..they need to stay in their lane and realize who they are..Terry Cummings ain't walking back through that door. They will land some Associate AD at a power 5 program, or more likely an AD at a low/mid major. They can dream all they want. Reality is a completely different animal.
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
Yes they do...I'm not doing this with you Rico...you just do crap like this just to start crap. They are DuhPaul..they need to stay in their lane and realize who they are..Terry Cummings ain't walking back through that door. They will land some Associate AD at a power 5 program, or more likely an AD at a low/mid major. They can dream all they want. Reality is a completely different animal.
Reality is a completely different animal. I agree
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Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too?? ;D
McDonough??? Does he have any experience in an academic environment? Kind of necessary, isn't it?
Quote from: 4everDawson on June 05, 2020, 01:41:02 PM
McDonough??? Does he have any experience in an academic environment? Kind of necessary, isn't it?
Not really. A number of ADs have come from professional sports or the business world. Be willing how to operate in an academic environment and have a good assistant who can manage that aspect, and you will be fine.
McDonough would be a fantastic get for DePaul. With his background in marketing, etc., I think he could make a huge difference there.
And the idea that he wouldn't take that job may not be accurate. Lifelong Chicago resident. Lifelong Catholic. In his mid 60s, he could put a good five to seven years there to get things going in the right direction.
EDIT: Plus the school gave him an honorary degree last year so he likely already knows the President.
Quote from: THRILLHO on June 04, 2020, 09:29:19 PM
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.
Can you come out and say what you think is the reason that I think she is the problem please?
Just thinking out loud, this wouldn't be a job Broeker would entertain, would it?? I would certainly hope not.
I can't believe marine that DePaul would ever hire Marquette's assistant AD.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2020, 01:45:37 PM
Not really. A number of ADs have come from professional sports or the business world. Be willing how to operate in an academic environment and have a good assistant who can manage that aspect, and you will be fine.
McDonough would be a fantastic get for DePaul. With his background in marketing, etc., I think he could make a huge difference there.
And the idea that he wouldn't take that job may not be accurate. Lifelong Chicago resident. Lifelong Catholic. In his mid 60s, he could put a good five to seven years there to get things going in the right direction.
EDIT: Plus the school gave him an honorary degree last year so he likely already knows the President.
These are the kinds of things that only someone with a background in higher education administration would know. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Wojo to DePaul as AD/coach.
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
Yes they do...I'm not doing this with you Rico...you just do crap like this just to start crap. They are DuhPaul..they need to stay in their lane and realize who they are..Terry Cummings ain't walking back through that door. They will land some Associate AD at a power 5 program, or more likely an AD at a low/mid major. They can dream all they want. Reality is a completely different animal.
To quote Chris Farley, would you just shut your big yapper? Focus on Marquette.
Quote from: MU82 on June 07, 2020, 02:14:57 PM
Wojo to DePaul as AD/coach.
I would be thrilled if Wojo was our AD
Quote from: TedBaxter on June 07, 2020, 02:19:13 PM
To quote Chris Farley, would you just shut your big yapper? Focus on Marquette.
My god have I ever become your target lately. What is your beef with me Ted??
Quote from: MU82 on June 07, 2020, 02:14:57 PM
Wojo to DePaul as AD/coach.
I agree with this analysis.
I didn't see this posted anywhere else...
" The Chicago Tribune's Greenstein identifies nine potential candidates to succeed outgoing DePaul AD Lenti Ponsetto: Northwestern Deputy AD Polisky, Loyola Chicago AD Watson, DePaul Chief of Staff Stoute, FAU AD White, Saint Joseph's AD Bodensteiner, Chicago Speedway Prez Paddock, Bradley AD Reynolds, VCU AD McLaughlin, and Notre Dame Deputy AD Fraleigh."
One would think that if the Bradley AD gets this gig, then Wardle won't be far behind.
Quote from: asdfasdf on June 18, 2020, 05:35:48 PM
I didn't see this posted anywhere else...
" The Chicago Tribune's Greenstein identifies nine potential candidates to succeed outgoing DePaul AD Lenti Ponsetto: Northwestern Deputy AD Polisky, Loyola Chicago AD Watson, DePaul Chief of Staff Stoute, FAU AD White, Saint Joseph's AD Bodensteiner, Chicago Speedway Prez Paddock, Bradley AD Reynolds, VCU AD McLaughlin, and Notre Dame Deputy AD Fraleigh."
One would think that if the Bradley AD gets this gig, then Wardle won't be far behind.
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
I agree with this analysis.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
Yup. It hasn't translated to Ws yet, but I think DePaul is headed in the right direction.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on June 18, 2020, 06:44:38 PM
Yup. It hasn't translated to conference Ws yet, but I think DePaul is headed in the right direction.
FIFY
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
Huh
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
Leitao's been back five years, had the same conference record last year (3-15) that he did his first year, and is 19-71 in league play. He's had a couple recruiting wins, but if he couldn't even hit .500 in league play the past two years, why would anyone expect better with Reed and JCL gone?
He's an integral part of DePaul's toxic culture of losing. I just don't think any case can be made for him when he failed to get any real results with Strus, Reed, Olujobi, Moore, and Coleman-Lands the past two years. He got his guys and still wasn't close to the tourney.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 19, 2020, 05:44:27 AM
Leitao's been back five years, had the same conference record last year (3-15) that he did his first year, and is 19-71 in league play. He's had a couple recruiting wins, but if he couldn't even hit .500 in league play the past two years, why would anyone expect better with Reed and JCL gone?
He's an integral part of DePaul's toxic culture of losing. I just don't think any case can be made for him when he failed to get any real results with Strus, Reed, Olujobi, Moore, and Coleman-Lands the past two years. He got his guys and still wasn't close to the tourney.
What DePaul needs is, their version of Tom Crean. Embrace the past while blazing a new trail. No more retreads but someone with a fresh vision
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
That's what they're going to do. He's not getting fired before the season starts. But I'm with brew. I see no reason he is going to succeed.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 19, 2020, 05:44:27 AM
Leitao's been back five years, had the same conference record last year (3-15) that he did his first year, and is 19-71 in league play. He's had a couple recruiting wins, but if he couldn't even hit .500 in league play the past two years, why would anyone expect better with Reed and JCL gone?
He's an integral part of DePaul's toxic culture of losing. I just don't think any case can be made for him when he failed to get any real results with Strus, Reed, Olujobi, Moore, and Coleman-Lands the past two years. He got his guys and still wasn't close to the tourney.
Moore is returning, he's got three impact grad transfers coming in. A year of development for Weems and Kyon Edwards and Ahamad Bynum both top 70 players signed for next year. Add that to a calendar year of 2019 where they went 7-11 and 12-1 I do think there is some glimmer of hope. That being said I'm sure you have efficiency stats for the three transfers that makes their raw numbers pointless in which case bring on someone new.
It's just results. Leitao has shown no ability to mesh new players together and get wins. I actually think all the grad transfers make his job harder, not easier. If you have 1, maybe 2 that really, really buy in, they help. But if that's the core of your roster, it's too many styles and too many "gotta show my stuff NOW" players to really stitch success together, especially for someone like Leitao.
Just look at his track record. 2 tourney bids, one at DePaul, one at Virginia, with someone else's players. His greatest success, at DePaul, was in CUSA. Sure, a better CUSA than now, but he's never consistently won at a high major and definitely not with his own guys.
Put Wardle in that seat or a dozen other coaches and I'd tend to agree, maybe there's something there. But Leitao has proven time and time again that regardless of talent, he just can't win.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 19, 2020, 09:04:38 AM
It's just results. Leitao has shown no ability to mesh new players together and get wins. I actually think all the grad transfers make his job harder, not easier. If you have 1, maybe 2 that really, really buy in, they help. But if that's the core of your roster, it's too many styles and too many "gotta show my stuff NOW" players to really stitch success together, especially for someone like Leitao.
Just look at his track record. 2 tourney bids, one at DePaul, one at Virginia, with someone else's players. His greatest success, at DePaul, was in CUSA. Sure, a better CUSA than now, but he's never consistently won at a high major and definitely not with his own guys.
Put Wardle in that seat or a dozen other coaches and I'd tend to agree, maybe there's something there. But Leitao has proven time and time again that regardless of talent, he just can't win.
That's a fair point about his roster management being an issue
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 19, 2020, 09:04:38 AM
It's just results. Leitao has shown no ability to mesh new players together and get wins. I actually think all the grad transfers make his job harder, not easier. If you have 1, maybe 2 that really, really buy in, they help. But if that's the core of your roster, it's too many styles and too many "gotta show my stuff NOW" players to really stitch success together, especially for someone like Leitao.
Just look at his track record. 2 tourney bids, one at DePaul, one at Virginia, with someone else's players. His greatest success, at DePaul, was in CUSA. Sure, a better CUSA than now, but he's never consistently won at a high major and definitely not with his own guys.
Put Wardle in that seat or a dozen other coaches and I'd tend to agree, maybe there's something there. But Leitao has proven time and time again that regardless of talent, he just can't win.
The ONLY reason that Leitao has even been able to bring in the talent he has is because he has Marc H$u on staff. Take him away and it would be even uglier...if that's even possible.
Quote from: muguru on June 19, 2020, 11:45:04 AM
The ONLY reason that Leitao has even been able to bring in the talent he has is because he has Marc H$u on staff. Take him away and it would be even uglier...if that's even possible.
Kudos to those kids going to DePaul and getting paid.
DePaul finalizing agreement for this due to become the new AD: DeWayne Peevy, Deputy AD at Kentucky.
https://collegead.com/dewayne-peevy-next-up/
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 17, 2020, 06:32:08 PM
DePaul finalizing agreement for this due to become the new AD: DeWayne Peevy, Deputy AD at Kentucky.
https://collegead.com/dewayne-peevy-next-up/
On paper looks like a solid hire .
Yep, I bet he knows how to give out the paper bags on the sly....sarcasm
Not a minute too soon.
I am on DePaul mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:
http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 11:14:15 AM
Not a minute too soon.
I am on DePaul mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:
http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed
"The number one hype man in college basketball"
Uh....Freeway???
Anyway, I didn't realize he was an actual player. I thought he was a mascot of some kind.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 17, 2020, 06:32:08 PM
DePaul finalizing agreement for this due to become the new AD: DeWayne Peevy, Deputy AD at Kentucky.
https://collegead.com/dewayne-peevy-next-up/
Nice career. Too bad it has to end this way.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 18, 2020, 11:17:39 AM
"The number one hype man in college basketball"
Uh....Freeway???
Anyway, I didn't realize he was an actual player. I thought he was a mascot of some kind.
Initially, I thought he was a Make A Wish kid or something along those lines.
Lietao deserves some credit for finding and developing Paul Reed. Now that he's (his staff's) bringing in more talent, he needs to show he can develop and mesh more talented players PDQ in order to stick around.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 11:14:15 AM
Not a minute too soon.
I am on DePaul mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:
http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed
No results yet on ticket sales, BUT DePaul enrollment is up among clown degree seekers.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 11:22:25 AM
Initially, I thought he was a Make A Wish kid or something along those lines.
Honestly, me and friends thought the same thing. I was corrected on this site a few months ago, but I'd guess this is a common impression of this guy outside of DePaul.
I mean the guy has to be at least semi decent right? He played at one of the premier HS programs in the country. Can't imagine he's just been an end of bench guy since he was 14...
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 18, 2020, 03:11:34 PM
I mean the guy has to be at least semi decent right? He played at one of the premier HS programs in the country. Can't imagine he's just been an end of bench guy since he was 14...
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded? I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 03:38:48 PM
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded? I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.
His dad is president of a bunch of muffler shops in Michigan City and LaPorte. I'm sure it's a front for something.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 03:38:48 PM
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded? I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.
he's probably the conduit for passing money to players. My buddy had him in class, said he was a total clown and is only on the team to get Lalumiere kids to DePaul.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 18, 2020, 04:22:52 PM
he's probably the conduit for passing money to players. My buddy had him in class, said he was a total clown and is only on the team to get Lalumiere kids to DePaul.
Imagine that being your soul purpose on the Depaul team and so far you landed a commitment that a guy backed out of and then a distant third place in the Bowen recruitment.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 18, 2020, 04:27:09 PM
Imagine that being your soul purpose on the Depaul team and so far you landed a commitment that a guy backed out of and then a distant third place in the Bowen recruitment.
sad to say their are probably some "fringe benefits" the kid gets being the member of the team. That says a lot about DePaul coeds...
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 18, 2020, 04:32:24 PM
sad to say their are probably some "fringe benefits" the kid gets being the member of the team. That says a lot about DePaul coeds...
You make a huge assumption that is not backed by any evidence whatsoever, and then disparage the people you are making the assumption about based on your assumption.
That says a lot about you.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 18, 2020, 04:32:24 PM
sad to say their are probably some "fringe benefits" the kid gets being the member of the team. That says a lot about DePaul coeds...
Gotta be Chico's....there/they're/their.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 11:14:15 AM
Not a minute too soon.
I am on DePaul mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:
http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed
The Coach and Teammates enjoy the energy he brings to the team. Adds some color to their program and gives a few camera shots when a DePaul player makes a great play. So overall I think it is a positive.
This is the type of things losing organizations have to do in order to get fans in the stadium. Back in the day the old St. Louis Browns had a midget on their team.
Quote from: Trump Loves The Big East on August 18, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
The Coach and Teammates enjoy the energy he brings to the team. Adds some color to their program and gives a few camera shots when a DePaul player makes a great play. So overall I think it is a positive.
This is the type of things losing organizations have to do in order to get fans in the stadium. Back in the day the old St. Louis Browns had a midget on their team.
The Browns ended up moving to Baltimore where the Orioles don't even claim their history. So maybe maybe that's not a great way to market your program.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
You make a huge assumption that is not backed by any evidence whatsoever, and then disparage the people you are making the assumption about based on your assumption.
That says a lot about you.
Disparage? My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago." It's not much different than the Wade girls who lavished attention on Wade. A hoops player who has turned himself into a campus celebrity is going to get attention out at the bars and invited to parties and events thrown by said rich kids on the basis of his status that most students would not. It's a different place. I doubt the guy has paid for many drinks since turning 21.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 20, 2020, 02:58:44 PM
Disparage? My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago." It's not much different than the Wade girls who lavished attention on Wade. A hoops player who has turned himself into a campus celebrity is going to get attention out at the bars and invited to parties and events thrown by said rich kids on the basis of his status that most students would not. It's a different place. I doubt the guy has paid for many drinks since turning 21.
Do you have any proof whatsoever that this clown is a "campus celebrity"?
In the last several years, I have gone quite a few of the Marquette away games at DePaul. There were never more than a few dozen kids in the student section. DePaul students don't even care about the real basketball players, much less this guy.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 20, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
Do you have any proof whatsoever that this clown is a "campus celebrity"?
In the last several years, I have gone quite a few of the Marquette away games at DePaul. There were never more than a few dozen kids in the student section. DePaul students don't even care about the real basketball players, much less this guy.
I have as well, and agree with Chick on this.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 20, 2020, 02:58:44 PM
Disparage? My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago." It's not much different than the Wade girls who lavished attention on Wade. A hoops player who has turned himself into a campus celebrity is going to get attention out at the bars and invited to parties and events thrown by said rich kids on the basis of his status that most students would not. It's a different place. I doubt the guy has paid for many drinks since turning 21.
Is your friends name Bob Oliver?
All of the DePaul bashing saddens me.
When I first came to Chicago in the 1980s, DePaul was something special. When we played them, it was quite a contest. The bad guys won more often than not in those days but the electricity, rivalry and intensity was something I've rarely seen since with our team.
Ray Meyer was no Al, but he was quite a coach and I truly respected him. I even liked Joey, though things went southbound with him fairly quickly.
While I was disgusted at the way we blew last year's game at the Winnie, I would love to get the point where DePaul and Marquette again were two College Basketball elite teams slugging it out for Midwestern bragging rights. Both of us have some growing to do for that to happen, but a weak DePaul doesn't do a strong Marquette any good.
And the winner is ....
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-peevy-depaul-athletic-director-20200821-jrqyl7cl5zapbf26o2rk3buy2u-story.html
I've seen some speculation that Kenny Payne's departure from Kentucky to the Knicks will be short term. Then once the new DePaul AD with Kentucky ties fires leitao, they will hire Payne.
For those who don't know, Payne is/was Calipari's top assistant at kentucky for a while. Salary up near 1,000,000 per year as an assistant. Far and away the highest paid assistant in NCAA bball.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 03:38:48 PM
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded? I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.
I am really loaded most of the time too. It makes me jump up, shout crazy things and eventually brings on uncontrollable spasms as well.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 20, 2020, 02:58:44 PM
My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago."
Breaking: Crotchety professor criticizes their students.