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Title: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: jesmu84 on April 16, 2020, 09:03:42 PM
https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/16/depaul-lawsuit-title-ix-coach-abuse-softball-players/
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 17, 2020, 07:43:37 AM
If JLP survives this, she's Rasputin.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: SaveOD238 on April 17, 2020, 09:04:08 AM
The coach in question is JLP's brother.  Allegations he punched players and assistant coaches and called them "f***ing whores."  I'd be shocked if she survives this one.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2020, 09:32:01 AM
The lawsuit claims JLP put “winning at all costs” above everything. Evidently the basketball program never got the message.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Shooter McGavin on April 17, 2020, 09:38:27 AM
DePaul alums just got some great news during this difficult time.  This is probably better news for them than getting Carton is for us.  No way JLP should survive this.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: DFW HOYA on April 17, 2020, 05:51:58 PM
No way JLP should survive this.

Never underestimate JLP. This is someone who got Dave Leitao an extension for four straight last place finishes and had the president of the university sign the contract.

She's also the one whose sister-in-law won the contract for the naming rights to Wintrust Arena.

"The Chief Marketing Officer from Wintrust Bank has confirmed that Wintrust Executive Vice President and sister-in-law of DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto, Kandace Lenti, was involved in the multi-million dollar Wintrust Arena naming rights agreement. DePaul officials have also confirmed that Jean Lenti Ponsetto never officially disclosed a conflict of interest form before engaging in the deal."

https://depauliaonline.com/33672/news/a-voice-for-the-voiceless/
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: We R Final Four on April 17, 2020, 06:02:33 PM
Had dinner with a connected DePaul guy before the @ DeP game. About 8 of us. Guy said Leito will get an extension, and JLP is gone. Everyone laughed.
He took some crap from DeP and MU alums. He said just wait.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: DFW HOYA on April 17, 2020, 09:18:54 PM
Had dinner with a connected DePaul guy before the @ DeP game. About 8 of us. Guy said Leito will get an extension, and JLP is gone. Everyone laughed.
He took some crap from DeP and MU alums. He said just wait.

Why would you extend Leitao under any circumstances? What, someone is going to steal away a 60 year old coach with a five year BE record of 19-71?
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: brewcity77 on April 17, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
Why would you extend Leitao under any circumstances? What, someone is going to steal away a 60 year old coach with a five year BE record of 19-71?

How much time was left on his deal? If he had 3 years left with a big buyout, I could see extending him a year to give him more money in the short term while reducing the buyout in case he didn't turn it around to make a firing more fiscally viable.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on April 17, 2020, 09:31:25 PM
How much time was left on his deal? If he had 3 years left with a big buyout, I could see extending him a year to give him more money in the short term while reducing the buyout in case he didn't turn it around to make a firing more fiscally viable.

I think I saw he was in the last year of his deal or only had one year left. Don't quote me on that, but I thought I saw that somewhere.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 17, 2020, 09:43:24 PM
How much time was left on his deal? If he had 3 years left with a big buyout, I could see extending him a year to give him more money in the short term while reducing the buyout in case he didn't turn it around to make a firing more fiscally viable.
What are these big buyouts? It's been said about Wojo too. Schools just pay the remainder of the contract. Coaches have to pay a buyout. I don't get it.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: MU82 on April 17, 2020, 10:14:41 PM
The lawsuit claims JLP put “winning at all costs” above everything. Evidently the basketball program never got the message.

You're on a roll today.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: JWags85 on April 18, 2020, 12:12:13 AM
The lawsuit claims JLP put “winning at all costs” above everything. Evidently the basketball program never got the message.

DePaul has a great women’s BB program, a good Softball team, a good women’s soccer team. That’s what she hung her hat on. It’s like when I worked at Pepsi in Chicago. We had Gatorade (the monster profit making shining star), Tropicana, and Quaker. Her leadership success would have been Gatorade imploding and losing all market share but Quaker granola bars and Tropicana single serve juices being relatively successful.   
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: warriorchick on April 18, 2020, 07:09:36 AM
The lawsuit claims JLP put “winning at all costs” above everything. Evidently the men's basketball program never got the message.

FIFY
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2020, 07:45:35 PM
What are these big buyouts? It's been said about Wojo too. Schools just pay the remainder of the contract. Coaches have to pay a buyout. I don't get it.

Paying the remainder of the contract is buying the contract out. The school can negotiate to pay a smaller percentage if they choose to part ways. Maybe a 1-year buyout, a percentage of the remaining, or a set amount.

So if DePaul had to pay the full balance on a 3-year contract, they couldn't afford to buy him out. But they could hypothetically negotiate to add a year to the contract, give an extra 5% each year, but if they fire him they only pay half the remaining deal. Good for Leitao because he gets a longer deal and more money if he succeeds, good for DePaul because they can get rid of him cheaper if he doesn't.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: TedBaxter on April 19, 2020, 07:01:39 AM
Never underestimate JLP. This is someone who got Dave Leitao an extension for four straight last place finishes and had the president of the university sign the contract.

She's also the one whose sister-in-law won the contract for the naming rights to Wintrust Arena.

"The Chief Marketing Officer from Wintrust Bank has confirmed that Wintrust Executive Vice President and sister-in-law of DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto, Kandace Lenti, was involved in the multi-million dollar Wintrust Arena naming rights agreement. DePaul officials have also confirmed that Jean Lenti Ponsetto never officially disclosed a conflict of interest form before engaging in the deal."

https://depauliaonline.com/33672/news/a-voice-for-the-voiceless/

This one alone should put her on the termination path.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: dgies9156 on April 19, 2020, 08:54:10 AM
This one alone should put her on the termination path.

Not in Chicago it wouldn’t.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 20, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
Paying the remainder of the contract is buying the contract out. The school can negotiate to pay a smaller percentage if they choose to part ways. Maybe a 1-year buyout, a percentage of the remaining, or a set amount.

So if DePaul had to pay the full balance on a 3-year contract, they couldn't afford to buy him out. But they could hypothetically negotiate to add a year to the contract, give an extra 5% each year, but if they fire him they only pay half the remaining deal. Good for Leitao because he gets a longer deal and more money if he succeeds, good for DePaul because they can get rid of him cheaper if he doesn't.
Makes sense. I thought people thought the schools had to pay a true buyout 'penalty'. The coaches do have to.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: DFW HOYA on April 20, 2020, 12:48:22 PM
When Dave Leitao was hired in 2015, the athletic director said her expectation was to "win now." And in 2020?

"I didn’t mean we were going to win the next day or win right away, but that we would do our best to build the program."

https://depauliaonline.com/47951/sports/5-years-after-hiring-dave-leitao-depaul-still-stuck-in-the-bottom-of-the-big-east/

Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 20, 2020, 03:27:09 PM
When Dave Leitao was hired in 2015, the athletic director said her expectation was to "win now." And in 2020?

"I didn’t mean we were going to win the next day or win right away, but that we would do our best to build the program."

https://depauliaonline.com/47951/sports/5-years-after-hiring-dave-leitao-depaul-still-stuck-in-the-bottom-of-the-big-east/


Apparently at DePaul, “now” really means “hopefully before you die if it isn’t too much trouble.”
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 20, 2020, 06:58:37 PM
DePaul has a great women’s BB program, a good Softball team, a good women’s soccer team. That’s what she hung her hat on. It’s like when I worked at Pepsi in Chicago. We had Gatorade (the monster profit making shining star), Tropicana, and Quaker. Her leadership success would have been Gatorade imploding and losing all market share but Quaker granola bars and Tropicana single serve juices being relatively successful.

Exactly. They range from good to very good in programs that bleed money and almost nobody cares about. They are world class awful in the the one that is supposed to pay for the rest. Fireable.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: dpu70 on April 23, 2020, 02:39:41 AM
MBB winning is NOT one of her objectives.  Team GPA and graduation rates are,
This has been hammered on the DPU Populace ad nauseam..
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 23, 2020, 07:47:36 AM
Those aren't mutually exclusive objectives.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 04, 2020, 08:58:24 PM
retiring

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@WeAreDePaul
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Multiple sources have confirmed to http://WeAreDePaul.com that DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto is retiring after 18 years as AD at the university.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Herman Cain on June 04, 2020, 09:10:41 PM
retiring

WeAreDePaul.com
@WeAreDePaul
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Multiple sources have confirmed to http://WeAreDePaul.com that DePaul Athletic Director Jean Lenti Ponsetto is retiring after 18 years as AD at the university.
If true the Sleeping Giant will soon be awaken.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: LloydsLegs on June 04, 2020, 09:14:25 PM
Thank goodness.  A chance for that program to turn the page.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 04, 2020, 09:18:20 PM
If true the Sleeping Giant will soon be awaken.

Hope not...hoping they get another AD that doesn't care about BB results. DePaul is just fine the way they are.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: THRILLHO on June 04, 2020, 09:29:19 PM
Thank goodness.  A chance for that program to turn the page.

Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 04, 2020, 09:33:16 PM
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.

I would think this certainly means Leitao's days are numbered.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: WhiteTrash on June 04, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.
Good point. It starts at the top.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Newsdreams on June 04, 2020, 09:50:23 PM
Retiring  ::)
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: We R Final Four on June 04, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
Had dinner with a connected DePaul guy before the @ DeP game. About 8 of us. Guy said Leito will get an extension, and JLP is gone. Everyone laughed.
He took some crap from DeP and MU alums. He said just wait.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Loose Cannon on June 04, 2020, 11:16:21 PM


I remember your Post very well, I tried to confirm but could not.  Thanks for your post.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 05, 2020, 07:25:38 AM
If true the Sleeping Giant will soon be awaken.


Sure.  I've heard this for 25 years or so.  I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: asdfasdf on June 05, 2020, 08:44:14 AM
Have the names of any potential replacements surfaced? I don't know much about how AD searches work, but I assume there are similarities to coaching searches. Doubt DePaul can get a current AD from a big program, so their candidate pool is current ADs at lower level schools or deputy ADs from bigger programs.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 05, 2020, 08:49:02 AM
Have the names of any potential replacements surfaced? I don't know much about how AD searches work, but I assume there are similarities to coaching searches. Doubt DePaul can get a current AD from a big program, so their candidate pool is current ADs at lower level schools or deputy ADs from bigger programs.

The sent out a press release saying they will run a national search.  I think the quality of candidate will depend on how much leeway they give them to make changes.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 05, 2020, 09:16:30 AM
Go after Loyola's?
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Loose Cannon on June 05, 2020, 10:49:26 AM


Great time for the Big Donors to put the Pressure On.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too??  ;D
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 05, 2020, 11:26:38 AM
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too??  ;D

Why shouldn’t they think big and not settle in
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too??  ;D


Why should DePaul settle for mediocrity
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:39:24 AM
Why shouldn’t they think big and not settle in

Why should DePaul settle for mediocrity

Because they have to..they are below a mediocre program. Big difference when comparing DePaul to 100's of other D1 school's.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 05, 2020, 11:40:54 AM
Because they have to..they are below a mediocre program. Big difference when comparing DePaul to 100's of other D1 school's.

No, they don’t
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 05, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
No, they don’t

Yes they do...I'm not doing this with you Rico...you just do crap like this just to start crap. They are DuhPaul..they need to stay in their lane and realize who they are..Terry Cummings ain't walking back through that door. They will land some Associate AD at a power 5 program, or more likely an AD at a low/mid major. They can dream all they want. Reality is a completely different animal.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 05, 2020, 12:01:51 PM
Yes they do...I'm not doing this with you Rico...you just do crap like this just to start crap. They are DuhPaul..they need to stay in their lane and realize who they are..Terry Cummings ain't walking back through that door. They will land some Associate AD at a power 5 program, or more likely an AD at a low/mid major. They can dream all they want. Reality is a completely different animal.

Reality is a completely different animal.  I agree
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on June 05, 2020, 01:14:17 PM
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Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 05, 2020, 01:41:02 PM
DePaul fans are clamoring for John McDonough...the former CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks that was just recently fired. I mean, why don't they just clamor for Brad Stevens to be their Coach too??  ;D

McDonough???  Does he have any experience in an academic environment?  Kind of necessary, isn’t it?
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 05, 2020, 01:45:37 PM
McDonough???  Does he have any experience in an academic environment?  Kind of necessary, isn’t it?


Not really.  A number of ADs have come from professional sports or the business world. Be willing how to operate in an academic environment and have a good assistant who can manage that aspect, and you will be fine.

McDonough would be a fantastic get for DePaul.  With his background in marketing, etc., I think he could make a huge difference there.

And the idea that he wouldn't take that job may not be accurate.  Lifelong Chicago resident.  Lifelong Catholic.  In his mid 60s, he could put a good five to seven years there to get things going in the right direction. 

EDIT:  Plus the school gave him an honorary degree last year so he likely already knows the President.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: LloydsLegs on June 07, 2020, 10:44:58 AM
Lol you guys all think she was the problem (hmmm... what could be the reason...). If they cared about men's basketball winning she would've been fired long ago.


Can you come out and say what you think is the reason that I think she is the problem please?
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 07, 2020, 11:25:57 AM
Just thinking out loud, this wouldn't be a job Broeker would entertain, would it?? I would certainly hope not.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 07, 2020, 12:00:17 PM
I can’t believe marine that DePaul would ever hire Marquette’s assistant AD.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 07, 2020, 01:44:36 PM

Not really.  A number of ADs have come from professional sports or the business world. Be willing how to operate in an academic environment and have a good assistant who can manage that aspect, and you will be fine.

McDonough would be a fantastic get for DePaul.  With his background in marketing, etc., I think he could make a huge difference there.

And the idea that he wouldn't take that job may not be accurate.  Lifelong Chicago resident.  Lifelong Catholic.  In his mid 60s, he could put a good five to seven years there to get things going in the right direction. 

EDIT:  Plus the school gave him an honorary degree last year so he likely already knows the President.

These are the kinds of things that only someone with a background in higher education administration would know. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: MU82 on June 07, 2020, 02:14:57 PM
Wojo to DePaul as AD/coach.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: TedBaxter on June 07, 2020, 02:19:13 PM
Yes they do...I'm not doing this with you Rico...you just do crap like this just to start crap. They are DuhPaul..they need to stay in their lane and realize who they are..Terry Cummings ain't walking back through that door. They will land some Associate AD at a power 5 program, or more likely an AD at a low/mid major. They can dream all they want. Reality is a completely different animal.

To quote Chris Farley, would you just shut your big yapper?  Focus on Marquette. 
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 07, 2020, 02:19:46 PM
Wojo to DePaul as AD/coach.

I would be thrilled if Wojo was our AD
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 07, 2020, 02:59:22 PM
To quote Chris Farley, would you just shut your big yapper?  Focus on Marquette.

My god have I ever become your target lately. What is your beef with me Ted??
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Herman Cain on June 07, 2020, 03:24:03 PM
Wojo to DePaul as AD/coach.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: asdfasdf on June 18, 2020, 05:35:48 PM
I didn't see this posted anywhere else...

" The Chicago Tribune’s Greenstein identifies nine potential candidates to succeed outgoing DePaul AD Lenti Ponsetto: Northwestern Deputy AD Polisky, Loyola Chicago AD Watson, DePaul Chief of Staff Stoute, FAU AD White, Saint Joseph’s AD Bodensteiner, Chicago Speedway Prez Paddock, Bradley AD Reynolds, VCU AD McLaughlin, and Notre Dame Deputy AD Fraleigh."

One would think that if the Bradley AD gets this gig, then Wardle won't be far behind.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
I didn't see this posted anywhere else...

" The Chicago Tribune’s Greenstein identifies nine potential candidates to succeed outgoing DePaul AD Lenti Ponsetto: Northwestern Deputy AD Polisky, Loyola Chicago AD Watson, DePaul Chief of Staff Stoute, FAU AD White, Saint Joseph’s AD Bodensteiner, Chicago Speedway Prez Paddock, Bradley AD Reynolds, VCU AD McLaughlin, and Notre Dame Deputy AD Fraleigh."

One would think that if the Bradley AD gets this gig, then Wardle won't be far behind.

With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Herman Cain on June 18, 2020, 06:28:28 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: SaveOD238 on June 18, 2020, 06:44:38 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.

Yup.  It hasn't translated to Ws yet, but I think DePaul is headed in the right direction.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 06:54:28 PM
Yup.  It hasn't translated to conference Ws yet, but I think DePaul is headed in the right direction.

FIFY
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 18, 2020, 07:29:40 PM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.

Huh
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 18, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
Huh

Do research then come back to me
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: brewcity77 on June 19, 2020, 05:44:27 AM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.

Leitao's been back five years, had the same conference record last year (3-15) that he did his first year, and is 19-71 in league play. He's had a couple recruiting wins, but if he couldn't even hit .500 in league play the past two years, why would anyone expect better with Reed and JCL gone?

He's an integral part of DePaul's toxic culture of losing. I just don't think any case can be made for him when he failed to get any real results with Strus, Reed, Olujobi, Moore, and Coleman-Lands the past two years. He got his guys and still wasn't close to the tourney.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2020, 06:29:54 AM
Leitao's been back five years, had the same conference record last year (3-15) that he did his first year, and is 19-71 in league play. He's had a couple recruiting wins, but if he couldn't even hit .500 in league play the past two years, why would anyone expect better with Reed and JCL gone?

He's an integral part of DePaul's toxic culture of losing. I just don't think any case can be made for him when he failed to get any real results with Strus, Reed, Olujobi, Moore, and Coleman-Lands the past two years. He got his guys and still wasn't close to the tourney.

What DePaul needs is, their version of Tom Crean.  Embrace the past while blazing a new trail.  No more retreads but someone with a fresh vision
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 19, 2020, 07:22:24 AM
With the transfers and recruits DePaul's starting to get I'd actually wait as the new AD and see what Leitao does with them.

That's what they're going to do.  He's not getting fired before the season starts.  But I'm with brew.  I see no reason he is going to succeed.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 19, 2020, 08:28:20 AM
Leitao's been back five years, had the same conference record last year (3-15) that he did his first year, and is 19-71 in league play. He's had a couple recruiting wins, but if he couldn't even hit .500 in league play the past two years, why would anyone expect better with Reed and JCL gone?

He's an integral part of DePaul's toxic culture of losing. I just don't think any case can be made for him when he failed to get any real results with Strus, Reed, Olujobi, Moore, and Coleman-Lands the past two years. He got his guys and still wasn't close to the tourney.

Moore is returning, he's got three impact grad transfers coming in. A year of development for Weems and Kyon Edwards and Ahamad Bynum both top 70 players signed for next year. Add that to a calendar year of 2019 where they went 7-11 and 12-1 I do think there is some glimmer of hope. That being said I'm sure you have efficiency stats for the three transfers that makes their raw numbers pointless in which case bring on someone new.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: brewcity77 on June 19, 2020, 09:04:38 AM
It's just results. Leitao has shown no ability to mesh new players together and get wins. I actually think all the grad transfers make his job harder, not easier. If you have 1, maybe 2 that really, really buy in, they help. But if that's the core of your roster, it's too many styles and too many "gotta show my stuff NOW" players to really stitch success together, especially for someone like Leitao.

Just look at his track record. 2 tourney bids, one at DePaul, one at Virginia, with someone else's players. His greatest success, at DePaul, was in CUSA. Sure, a better CUSA than now, but he's never consistently won at a high major and definitely not with his own guys.

Put Wardle in that seat or a dozen other coaches and I'd tend to agree, maybe there's something there. But Leitao has proven time and time again that regardless of talent, he just can't win.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 19, 2020, 11:11:48 AM
It's just results. Leitao has shown no ability to mesh new players together and get wins. I actually think all the grad transfers make his job harder, not easier. If you have 1, maybe 2 that really, really buy in, they help. But if that's the core of your roster, it's too many styles and too many "gotta show my stuff NOW" players to really stitch success together, especially for someone like Leitao.

Just look at his track record. 2 tourney bids, one at DePaul, one at Virginia, with someone else's players. His greatest success, at DePaul, was in CUSA. Sure, a better CUSA than now, but he's never consistently won at a high major and definitely not with his own guys.

Put Wardle in that seat or a dozen other coaches and I'd tend to agree, maybe there's something there. But Leitao has proven time and time again that regardless of talent, he just can't win.

That's a fair point about his roster management being an issue
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: muguru on June 19, 2020, 11:45:04 AM
It's just results. Leitao has shown no ability to mesh new players together and get wins. I actually think all the grad transfers make his job harder, not easier. If you have 1, maybe 2 that really, really buy in, they help. But if that's the core of your roster, it's too many styles and too many "gotta show my stuff NOW" players to really stitch success together, especially for someone like Leitao.

Just look at his track record. 2 tourney bids, one at DePaul, one at Virginia, with someone else's players. His greatest success, at DePaul, was in CUSA. Sure, a better CUSA than now, but he's never consistently won at a high major and definitely not with his own guys.

Put Wardle in that seat or a dozen other coaches and I'd tend to agree, maybe there's something there. But Leitao has proven time and time again that regardless of talent, he just can't win.

The ONLY reason that Leitao has even been able to bring in the talent he has is because he has Marc H$u on staff. Take him away and it would be even uglier...if that's even possible.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2020, 12:39:46 PM
The ONLY reason that Leitao has even been able to bring in the talent he has is because he has Marc H$u on staff. Take him away and it would be even uglier...if that's even possible.

Kudos to those kids going to DePaul and getting paid. 
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 17, 2020, 06:32:08 PM
DePaul finalizing agreement for this due to become the new AD: DeWayne Peevy, Deputy AD at Kentucky.

https://collegead.com/dewayne-peevy-next-up/
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Big East on August 17, 2020, 07:18:42 PM
DePaul finalizing agreement for this due to become the new AD: DeWayne Peevy, Deputy AD at Kentucky.

https://collegead.com/dewayne-peevy-next-up/
On paper looks like a solid hire .
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: MUUWUWM on August 17, 2020, 07:48:47 PM
Yep, I bet he knows how to give out the paper bags on the sly....sarcasm
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 11:14:15 AM
Not a minute too soon.

I am on DePaul  mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:

http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed

Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 18, 2020, 11:17:39 AM
Not a minute too soon.

I am on DePaul  mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:

http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed



"The number one hype man in college basketball"

Uh....Freeway???

Anyway, I didn't realize he was an actual player.  I thought he was a mascot of some kind.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 18, 2020, 11:18:21 AM
DePaul finalizing agreement for this due to become the new AD: DeWayne Peevy, Deputy AD at Kentucky.

https://collegead.com/dewayne-peevy-next-up/



Nice career.  Too bad it has to end this way.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 11:22:25 AM

"The number one hype man in college basketball"

Uh....Freeway???

Anyway, I didn't realize he was an actual player.  I thought he was a mascot of some kind.

Initially,  I thought he was a Make A Wish kid or something along those lines.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 18, 2020, 12:43:30 PM
Lietao deserves some credit for finding and developing Paul Reed. Now that he’s (his staff’s) bringing in more talent, he needs to show he can develop and mesh more talented players PDQ in order to stick around. 
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: RealChiliWarrior on August 18, 2020, 12:56:48 PM
Not a minute too soon.

I am on DePaul  mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:

http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed

No results yet on ticket sales, BUT DePaul enrollment is up among clown degree seekers.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: WhiteTrash on August 18, 2020, 03:09:35 PM
Initially,  I thought he was a Make A Wish kid or something along those lines.
Honestly, me and friends thought the same thing. I was corrected on this site a few months ago, but I'd guess this is a common impression of this guy outside of DePaul.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 18, 2020, 03:11:34 PM
I mean the guy has to be at least semi decent right? He played at one of the premier HS programs in the country. Can't imagine he's just been an end of bench guy since he was 14...
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 03:38:48 PM
I mean the guy has to be at least semi decent right? He played at one of the premier HS programs in the country. Can't imagine he's just been an end of bench guy since he was 14...

Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded?  I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.

Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 18, 2020, 03:50:36 PM
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded?  I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.


His dad is president of a bunch of muffler shops in Michigan City and LaPorte.  I'm sure it's a front for something.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 18, 2020, 04:22:52 PM
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded?  I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.

he's probably the conduit for passing money to players. My buddy had him in class, said he was a total clown and is only on the team to get Lalumiere kids to DePaul.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 18, 2020, 04:27:09 PM
he's probably the conduit for passing money to players. My buddy had him in class, said he was a total clown and is only on the team to get Lalumiere kids to DePaul.

Imagine that being your soul purpose on the Depaul team and so far you landed a commitment that a guy backed out of and then a distant third place in the Bowen recruitment.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 18, 2020, 04:32:24 PM
Imagine that being your soul purpose on the Depaul team and so far you landed a commitment that a guy backed out of and then a distant third place in the Bowen recruitment.

sad to say their are probably some "fringe benefits" the kid gets being the member of the team. That says a lot about DePaul coeds...
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: warriorchick on August 18, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
sad to say their are probably some "fringe benefits" the kid gets being the member of the team. That says a lot about DePaul coeds...

You make a huge assumption that is not backed by any evidence whatsoever, and then disparage the people you are making the assumption about based on your assumption.

That says a lot about you.

Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: We R Final Four on August 18, 2020, 06:04:09 PM
sad to say their are probably some "fringe benefits" the kid gets being the member of the team. That says a lot about DePaul coeds...
Gotta be Chico’s....there/they’re/their.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Big East on August 18, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
Not a minute too soon.

I am on DePaul  mailing list (because I have purchased DePaul tickets for Marquette games), and they have resorted to hyping that wacky walk-on in an attempt to generate interest in the team:

http://x.mail.depaul-blue-demons.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=26bd807c2eca048fa5fe17a110d4b9ed
The Coach and Teammates enjoy the energy he brings to the team.  Adds some color to their program and gives a few camera shots when a DePaul player makes a great play. So overall I think it is a positive.

This is the type of things losing organizations have to do in order to get fans in the stadium. Back in the day the old St. Louis Browns had a midget on their team.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 18, 2020, 07:11:03 PM
The Coach and Teammates enjoy the energy he brings to the team.  Adds some color to their program and gives a few camera shots when a DePaul player makes a great play. So overall I think it is a positive.

This is the type of things losing organizations have to do in order to get fans in the stadium. Back in the day the old St. Louis Browns had a midget on their team.

The Browns ended up moving to Baltimore where the Orioles don’t even claim their history. So maybe maybe that’s not a great way to market your program.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Billy Hoyle on August 20, 2020, 02:58:44 PM
You make a huge assumption that is not backed by any evidence whatsoever, and then disparage the people you are making the assumption about based on your assumption.

That says a lot about you.

Disparage? My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago." It's not much different than the Wade girls who lavished attention on Wade. A hoops player who has turned himself into a campus celebrity is going to get attention out at the bars and invited to parties and events thrown by said rich kids on the basis of his status that most students would not. It's a different place. I doubt the guy has paid for many drinks since turning 21.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: warriorchick on August 20, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
Disparage? My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago." It's not much different than the Wade girls who lavished attention on Wade. A hoops player who has turned himself into a campus celebrity is going to get attention out at the bars and invited to parties and events thrown by said rich kids on the basis of his status that most students would not. It's a different place. I doubt the guy has paid for many drinks since turning 21.

Do you have any proof whatsoever that this clown is a "campus celebrity"?

In the last several years, I have gone quite a few of the Marquette away games at DePaul.  There were never more than a few dozen kids in the student section.  DePaul students don't even care about the real basketball players, much less this guy.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: We R Final Four on August 20, 2020, 07:17:00 PM
Do you have any proof whatsoever that this clown is a "campus celebrity"?

In the last several years, I have gone quite a few of the Marquette away games at DePaul.  There were never more than a few dozen kids in the student section.  DePaul students don't even care about the real basketball players, much less this guy.
I have as well, and agree with Chick on this.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: panda on August 20, 2020, 07:42:31 PM
Disparage? My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago." It's not much different than the Wade girls who lavished attention on Wade. A hoops player who has turned himself into a campus celebrity is going to get attention out at the bars and invited to parties and events thrown by said rich kids on the basis of his status that most students would not. It's a different place. I doubt the guy has paid for many drinks since turning 21.

Is your friends name Bob Oliver?
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: dgies9156 on August 20, 2020, 08:17:25 PM
All of the DePaul bashing saddens me.

When I first came to Chicago in the 1980s, DePaul was something special. When we played them, it was quite a contest. The bad guys won more often than not in those days but the electricity, rivalry and intensity was something I've rarely seen since with our team.

Ray Meyer was no Al, but he was quite a coach and I truly respected him. I even liked Joey, though things went southbound with him fairly quickly.

While I was disgusted at the way we blew last year's game at the Winnie, I would love to get the point where DePaul and Marquette again were two College Basketball elite teams slugging it out for Midwestern bragging rights. Both of us have some growing to do for that to happen, but a weak DePaul doesn't do a strong Marquette any good.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: dgies9156 on August 20, 2020, 08:20:48 PM
And the winner is ....

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-peevy-depaul-athletic-director-20200821-jrqyl7cl5zapbf26o2rk3buy2u-story.html
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: asdfasdf on August 21, 2020, 09:20:32 AM
I've seen some speculation that Kenny Payne's departure from Kentucky to the Knicks will be short term. Then once the new DePaul AD with Kentucky ties fires leitao, they will hire Payne.

For those who don't know, Payne is/was Calipari's top assistant at kentucky for a while. Salary up near 1,000,000 per year as an assistant. Far and away the highest paid assistant in NCAA bball.
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on August 21, 2020, 11:48:09 AM
Didn't we hear somewhere along the line that this guy's parents were really loaded?  I am sure with enough scratch, you could get your kid into any of those prep schools regardless of talent.

I am really loaded most of the time too.  It makes me jump up, shout crazy things and eventually brings on uncontrollable spasms as well. 
Title: Re: DePaul lawsuit involving AD
Post by: drewm88 on August 21, 2020, 01:09:08 PM
My prof buddy at DePaul (24 years now) has told me DePaul gets a lot of "dumb rich kids who come to Lincoln Park to live it up in Chicago."

Breaking: Crotchety professor criticizes their students.