Jeff Goodman reporting that Rick Pitino has a deal in place to coach Iona. MU missing out on a great coach at a bargain price. He'd get them within a sniff of a final four in 3 years.
Probably within a sniff of a few other things as well.
As badly as I want Wojo gone, any big time program would be insane to hire him. There's good reason he has to settle for Iona.
Quote from: Windyplayer on March 14, 2020, 02:42:08 PM
Probably within a sniff of a few other things as well.
Yes, make sure wife has a seat belt on her chair if you spot Pitino at the local Olive Garden.
Would be a massive upgrade on the court and in wins & losses, but couldn't stomach worrying about when the NCAA would come calling.
Really? In 2023 Iona will be sniffing the final four? A roster of current high schoolers who don't know what an Iona is will be charging to final four territory?
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 14, 2020, 02:30:38 PM
Jeff Goodman reporting that Rick Pitino has a deal in place to coach Iona. MU missing out on a great coach at a bargain price. He'd get them within a sniff of a final four in 3 years.
Don't think so. But whoever he gets will learn how to play the game.
Pitino is a disgrace. College basketball is better off without him.
Look there is no way I would hire him at MU.
But he is a helluva basketball coach. He ended up winning the Greek playoffs after he ended up there last year. The Celtics were his only failure. He will win at Iona.
Deal is reportedly worth 1.1 million per year. That's what....... half the cost of Wojo?
If Pitino upgrades Iona, and he should, he will only be there 2 years before he bolts for another program or the head Marie d job opens at Porcinis
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 14, 2020, 06:02:04 PM
Deal is reportedly worth 1.1 million per year. That's what....... half the cost of Wojo?
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
Terrible take.
Everywon deserves a second chance doe, hey?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 14, 2020, 07:29:30 PM
Terrible take.
Makes me feel even better about it.
People aren't worthy of forgiveness, redemption and second chances?
Cool. Cura Personalis
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 14, 2020, 07:30:36 PM
Everywon deserves a second chance doe, hey?
Which chance one is pitino on? Four?
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:35:50 PM
Makes me feel even better about it.
People aren't worthy of forgiveness, redemption and second chances?
Cool. Cura Personalis
That's a lot better than your "the Catholic Church has been pretty sh*tty" take.
Everyone should be forgiven. That doesn't mean he gets to be your basketball coach.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 14, 2020, 07:39:16 PM
That's a lot better than your "the Catholic Church has been pretty sh*tty" take.
Everyone should be forgiven. That doesn't mean he gets to be your basketball coach.
Right. We need clean cut Steve to continue to polish our image into that of Duke. Nothing less attractive than being a wanna be. MU will never be Duke. Or Stanford.
Let's get back to being what we are - An urban institution, that had a pioneer of a coach who broke down racial barriers, challenged group think, and pushed the envelope. And that WON. Big time.
Basketball success drives applications to MU better than virtually any other catalyst.
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 14, 2020, 05:52:47 PM
Pitino is a disgrace. College basketball is better off without him.
This!!!!
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:51:26 PM
Right. We need clean cut Steve to continue to polish our image into that of Duke. Nothing less attractive than being a wanna be. MU will never be Duke. Or Stanford.
Let's get back to being what we are - An urban institution, that had a pioneer of a coach who broke down racial barriers, challenged group think, and pushed the envelope. And that WON. Big time.
Basketball success drives applications to MU better than virtually any other catalyst.
I want Wojo out too.
The rest of your post really has nothing to do with Pitino.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
Takes like this prove we don't need Pitino at MU.
BTW, since your painting with broad brushes, I'm for ending Boy Scouts, gymnastics, doctors, the film industry, the government, judges, teachers, etc..........
Wow, we are that desperate for a win to the point of wanting to hire Rick Pitino. I think I need to be disinfected.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 14, 2020, 02:30:38 PM
Jeff Goodman reporting that Rick Pitino has a deal in place to coach Iona. MU missing out on a great coach at a bargain price. He'd get them within a sniff of a final four in 3 years.
The man ran a brothel on campus for his players. He is the last person I'd want coming anywhere near this program. He's the walking definition of scoundrel.
Quote from: bradforster on March 14, 2020, 08:29:10 PM
The man ran a brothel on campus for his players. He is the last person I'd want coming anywhere near this program. He's the walking definition of scoundrel.
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Quote from: NCMUFan on March 14, 2020, 08:18:02 PM
Wow, we are that desperate for a win to the point of wanting to hire Rick Pitino. I think I need to be disinfected.
Yes. I'm that desperate for MU to win again. #hireslickrick
https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/tim-cluess-steps-down-as-iona-coach-amid-health-battle/
https://nypost.com/2020/03/14/iona-hires-rick-pitino-as-head-coach-in-stunning-move/
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 08:59:51 PM
Yes. I'm that desperate for MU to win again. #hireslickrick
Hires lick Rick?
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
I concur. MU would have a lot of leverage first 3 years. By then Pitino is 70. Does he really want to go to another program at that point and rebuild 2/3 years? If anything about the past 2 seasons of college basketball has been learned, it's that you can win almost anywhere now. Not to mention, with college basketball allowing players to be paid, Pitino already has a network there - which is huge. Combine that with MU's resources and you have serious potential.
I want Marquette to be an upper tier basketball program again.
Reasonably sure Wojo's not the answer.
Totally sure Rick Pitino isn't either.
If you lie down with pigs, you're going to get up smelling like garbage.
He's a slimy amoral a-hole, and if MU ever made the egregious mistake of hiring him or someone like him, I'd have to give serious thought to ending a 50+ year love affair with MU hoops.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
What an embarrassment you are.
Not happy to hear this. He will work his way into a big program again. Wow
Pitino was 4th, 4th and tied for 2nd his last 3 years in the ACC. I feel his style, press and shoot lots of 3s, everyone does something like it.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
Some may say what the catholic church did was kid stuff.
I don't get it, why would the school you root for be important if the only thing important is winning?
Why not just go support a winning school if nothing else is important about that school?
Why are you torturing yourself and the rest of us on this board by attacking a school that is trying to win by following the rules?
Quote from: pettyworld on March 14, 2020, 09:38:01 PM
What an embarrassment you are.
Score. You are so easily trolled and triggered.
#hireslickrick
Quote from: bradforster on March 14, 2020, 08:29:10 PM
The man ran a brothel on campus for his players. He is the last person I'd want coming anywhere near this program. He's the walking definition of scoundrel.
Agreed, but Dick Vitale does not think so.
I'd rather we be mediocre under Wojo than have that slimeball be our coach. A reminder of the scandals:
1. 2009 — The Karen Sypher sex and extortion scandal
2. 2015 — Katrina Powell details illicit activities with recruits
3. 2017 — The corruption scandal involving Adidas,
IONA is an Adidas schoolQuoteAgreed, but Dick Vitale does not think so.
The fact that Dickie V thinks its a good hire tells you everything.
Having a coach that is as pure as the driven snow is not a priority for me, but, no. As frustrated as I am with Wojo, I have no interest in this.
I don't think MU should hire him...but MU would have every right to do so and publicly state that they have no choice to hire someone like Pitino given the status and lack of organizational control the NCAA has shown with coaches such as Bill Self, Sean Miller, John Calipari, Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, etc... It's almost impossible for MU to have Kansas like success year-over-year given the difference in history and resources. To try and do so while Kansas cheats and MU stays clean is like hoping to win the lottery.
From an ethical standpoint...We are not talking about a second chance at life here. I don't think there would be anything wrong with a death penalty for many of these coaches that have already banked millions. Rick Pitino can bag my groceries if he needs money...I wish he wasn't in college basketball...but there are a bunch of guys on their 8th chance. The adults (that can win) get more chances then their players...
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
This is the level of a 16 year old thought process.
Yes the playing field is not level. But you still have the Jay Wright and Al McGuire types out there than can run a clean program and win.
Somehow justifying playing dirty because the others have got away with it, may or may not get MU in trouble.
So, is it worth playing dirty hoping to get away with it?
We all know MU does not hold the sway with the NCAA that the big state schools do.
Knowing that and the repercussions of making the headlines with negative press of cheating and possible penalties and sanctions, is it worth the risk?
Probably not. As much as the team can be frustrating, who wants MU on probation for X number of years and that part of MU BB history?
Quote from: avid1010 on March 15, 2020, 08:02:02 AM
I don't think MU should hire him...but MU would have every right to do so and publicly state that they have no choice to hire someone like Pitino given the status and lack of organizational control the NCAA has shown with coaches such as Bill Self, Sean Miller, John Calipari, Will Wade, Bruce Pearl, etc... It's almost impossible for MU to have Kansas like success year-over-year given the difference in history and resources. To try and do so while Kansas cheats and MU stays clean is like hoping to win the lottery.
From an ethical standpoint...We are not talking about a second chance at life here. I don't think there would be anything wrong with a death penalty for many of these coaches that have already banked millions. Rick Pitino can bag my groceries if he needs money...I wish he wasn't in college basketball...but there are a bunch of guys on their 8th chance. The adults (that can win) get more chances then their players...
So you think MU should hire Pitiino and say the equivalent of "yeah we know this guy cheats, but we have no choice here."
That's problematic.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 14, 2020, 06:02:04 PM
Deal is reportedly worth 1.1 million per year. That's what....... half the cost of Wojo?
Half the cost with 10 times the baggage. What could possibly go wrong? Are the hookers on retainer at Iona?
Rick Pitino: "My biggest regret in coaching was leaving Providence College. They were two magical years in my life. It was a small Catholic school with a small gym I loved so much. I'm going back to a similar situation. I know I'll love it equally the same."
It's kind of funny but you all think Pitino is going to "cheat" even though paying college athletes is becoming legal- an area where Pitino has expertise. I think one thing is certain: The Pro Wojo crowd is also the Low Info crowd.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 15, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
Rick Pitino: "My biggest regret in coaching was leaving Providence College. They were two magical years in my life. It was a small Catholic school with a small gym I loved so much. I'm going back to a similar situation. I know I'll love it equally the same."
It's kind of funny but you all think Pitino is going to "cheat" even though paying college athletes is becoming legal- an area where Pitino has expertise. I think one thing is certain: The Pro Wojo crowd is also the Low Info crowd.
And the No Wojo crowd appears to be the kids who used to look up at the ceiling when someone told them "Hey gullible is written on the ceiling."
while not in favor of hiring Pitino, it feels as though MU has been on probation the past six years. We certainly have no post-season accomplishments to put in our trophy cases. Maybe it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all..., It'll be very interesting to see if Iona has the two year success that Crean has had, or Buzz, or perhaps they'll enjoy better. Not for me.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 15, 2020, 07:28:42 AM
Score. You are so easily trolled and triggered.
#hireslickrick
So you used sexually abused children for a "gotcha" moment on MUScoop? Very cool, Ners.
Just furthering my claim. You're an embarrassment.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 14, 2020, 06:02:04 PM
Deal is reportedly worth 1.1 million per year. That's what....... half the cost of Wojo?
Not when you consider future legal fees and fines.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 15, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
Rick Pitino: "My biggest regret in coaching was leaving Providence College. They were two magical years in my life. It was a small Catholic school with a small gym I loved so much. I'm going back to a similar situation. I know I'll love it equally the same."
It's too bad Pitino was never given the opportunity to return to a small Catholic school during his career. It must have been painful to have to settle for Kentucky, Louisville and the NBA.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 15, 2020, 11:58:02 AM
Not when you consider future legal fees and fines.
Low info crowd in attendance.
What would he get fined for exactly?
Quote from: WarriorDad on March 15, 2020, 08:08:52 AM
This is the level of a 16 year old thought process.
See above response to Petty/Wadesworld. So easy to trigger and troll you. Much like Chico's.
Oh. And I said awhile back Greg Gard was a better coach than Wojo. Said it a number of times over the last 4 years.
Was glad to see you acknowledged this reality, in spite of your longstanding loyalty to Wojo.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 15, 2020, 12:53:23 PM
See above response to Petty/Wadesworld. So easy to trigger and troll you. Much like Chico's.
Oh. And I said awhile back Greg Gard was a better coach than Wojo. Said it a number of times over the last 4 years.
Was glad to see you acknowledged this reality, in spite of your longstanding loyalty to Wojo.
Gard is a great X's and O's coach. If Wisconsin can keep up the recruiting trend of late, they'll be formidable. There's no comparison really. Pro Wojo's want what Wisconsin has but are afraid to deny it. They love that student athlete look where it appears every one is studying in sweater vests and in bed by 9pm every night. They live and breathe that fantasy. The June and Ward Cleavers of the world. Someone put up a video clip of Greg Elliot and Markus Howard in the library studying with flashcards. Let's blow the lid off this place and get a Pro Wojo March Madness going!!!
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 15, 2020, 01:09:53 PM
Gard is a great X's and O's coach. If Wisconsin can keep up the recruiting trend of late, they'll be formidable. There's no comparison really. Pro Wojo's want what Wisconsin has but are afraid to deny it. They love that student athlete look where it appears every one is studying in sweater vests and in bed by 9pm every night. They live and breathe that fantasy. The June and Ward Cleavers of the world. Someone put up a video clip of Greg Elliot and Markus Howard in the library studying with flashcards. Let's blow the lid off this place and get a Pro Wojo March Madness going!!!
Howard Dean?
Pro Wojo's want what Wisconsin has but are afraid to deny it.
What the heck does that even mean? Wanting what Wisconsin has and not afraid to admit it?
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 14, 2020, 08:35:19 PM
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Foreplay before the table action at Porcinis
Another "Scoop at its finest" thread.
Quote from: MU82 on March 16, 2020, 09:59:54 AM
Another "Scoop at its finest" thread.
Look no further than who created it.
Quote from: bradforster on March 14, 2020, 08:29:10 PM
The man ran a brothel on campus for his players.
I seem to recall that, in order of priority, the motivators for the young men of McCormick 8:
- Tail
- Beer
- Real Chili
- Tail
- Beer
- Real Chili
- Tail
- Beer
- Real Chili
- Studying
Quote from: keefe on March 16, 2020, 11:37:07 AM
I seem to recall that, in order of priority, the motivators for the young men of McCormick 8:
- Tail
- Beer
- Real Chili
- Tail
- Beer
- Real Chili
- Tail
- Beer
- Real Chili
- Studying
Doesn't seem very realistic to me, Crash. "Studying" way too high on this list.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
We should have offered Pitino. He's 67. He'll want to rehabilitate his image. He'd be on best behavior. We'd be back to winning like we did under Buzz in a matter of two to three years max.
I don't think Jesuits/Catholics are in any position to pass judgment on moral character. What the Catholic Church did covering up the horrible sexual misconduct of some priests as compared to Pitino? Slick Rick's stuff was kid stuff. No pun intended.
FWIW, Iona is a Catholic school.
Well, let us see how Slick Rick behaves at Iona. Maybe he has changed his ways. Maybe he will continue to entertain us and allow us to say, "Thank God he is not at MU."
Quote from: MU82 on March 16, 2020, 12:17:15 PM
Doesn't seem very realistic to me, Crash. "Studying" way too high on this list.
I had to put that in case my mom checked in on Scoop...
Besides, I didn't indicate what I was "studying"
any time a scumbag like Pitino, Sampson, et al get hired I'm always reminded of one of the great press conferences in college coach history:
"I can't get a head coaching job. ... If you get fired for cheating, you can get hired right back again. If you get fired for losing, it's like you've got leprosy, so young coaches need to bear that in mind. Cheating and not graduating players will not get you in trouble, but that damn losing. ..."
http://blogs.pjstar.com/wessler/2007/03/02/royce-waltman-fired-now-that-was-how-to-do-a-news-conference/
writer from Sports Illustrated weighing in with belief that once the new "Notice of Allegations" is filed against Pitino, he may not make it until the end of the season.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/03/14/rick-pitino-iona-ncaa-scandal