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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Herman Cain on March 03, 2020, 09:21:56 PM
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Given the recent weak performance, will MU still be invited to the NCAA Tournament this year ?
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Yes, they are a lock, stop this stupidity.
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I'm abstaining from voting. But Fox flashing that "tournament resume" graphic for MU with 0.8 seconds left should be plenty to show that there is genuine peril.
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Why waste a bid on a team that is sliding face first into march. They are incapable of beating anyone good at this point
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Don’t like to say games are must win but the next one seems pretty important....
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Nope, they lose out and the NCAA only has to say that the NET ranking is only one of many evaluation tools, which is correct, and they can leave this disaster to the NIT.
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Not sure why we need a poll when it’s already a lock
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Yes but they don't deserve it and won't last long the way they're playing.
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This is a stupid thread.
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who cares? do I want to watch this meltdown last for one more game? Not really
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Yes, they are a lock, stop this stupidity.
No offense Brew, but are you really and truly proud of that?? Really??
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Will anybody care when they do make it?
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At this point I'd almost rather they just stay home.
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Will anybody care when they do make it?
No, but that’s not the poll question
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This is a stupid thread.
"Stupid" this, "stupid" that, "idiots", "morons", etc. Open your eyes man. Look at the steaming pile of trash on the court that just lost to laughable Depaul. Fox Sports flashed a "tournament resume" graphic on us tonight.
WAKE UP!
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A) don’t care as they suck
b) don’t care how many q1 wins they have finishing 1-7!tonend the year they won’t get selected
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Best thing that could happen is mu “gets snubbed” and we see wojo flounder when the media interviews him on selection sunday. Lets get them coals stoked under his seat once and for all !
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No offense Brew, but are you really and truly proud of that?? Really??
Not sure what that has to do with the question at hand. I answered the question. Marquette is in. Period. If you don't believe me, check with another bracketologist:
https://twitter.com/hardwiredsports/status/1235042606003806209?s=21
"Easily still an NCAA Tournament team..."
They are in. No one has to like it, no one has to be happy with 1-4 in the last 5 or be content losing to DePaul (I'm not) but THEY ARE DANCING, IT'S A REALITY. I'm sick of the ignorant posters trying to assert otherwise while knowing nothing about the bubble.
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Not sure what that has to do with the question at hand. I answered the question. Marquette is in. Period. If you don't believe me, check with another bracketologist:
https://twitter.com/hardwiredsports/status/1235042606003806209?s=21
"Easily still an NCAA Tournament team..."
They are in. No one has to like it, no one has to be happy with 1-4 in the last 5 or be content losing to DePaul (I'm not) but THEY ARE DANCING, IT'S A REALITY. I'm sick of the ignorant posters trying to assert otherwise while knowing nothing about the bubble.
Stop the presses!!!!! Brewcity has locked down the bubble and has declared that no teams will steal bids and no teams will improve their standing. Talk about ignorant!
Rutgers beat Maryland tonight and Purdue is destroying Iowa in Iowa but do not worry MU fans brewcity has locked the bubble down! I am glad this last two weeks of the season doesn’t matter.
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Stop the presses!!!!! Brewcity has locked down the bubble and has declared that no teams will steal bids and no teams will improve their standing. Talk about ignorant!
National media are in disbelief that people think Marquette might not make the tournament. If you believe this, you are an idiot.
We aren't on the bubble. We aren't close to the bubble. We aren't one of the programs sweating if ETSU or San Diego State gets knocked out of their tournament.
Honestly, tonight is one of those nights where I take a big step closer to the "this might not be the guy" wagon, but that is wholly disconnected from whether we will be in the tournament. We will be in. There aren't enough bid thieves to keep us out.
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National media are in disbelief that people think Marquette might not make the tournament. If you believe this, you are an idiot.
We aren't on the bubble. We aren't close to the bubble. We aren't one of the programs sweating if ETSU or San Diego State gets knocked out of their tournament.
Honestly, tonight is one of those nights where I take a big step closer to the "this might not be the guy" wagon, but that is wholly disconnected from whether we will be in the tournament. We will be in. There aren't enough bid thieves to keep us out.
Yep. We are in.
Totally different question than whether we will win, whether fans will care, or whether Wojo should go.
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Yes, but we are heading toward an 8-9 matchup, and of course the winner plays a 1 seed.
Not to worry - it's highly unlikely that this team could win an 8-9 game.
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Lose out grab the 11 seed. Way better
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Yes, but we are heading toward an 8-9 matchup, and of course the winner plays a 1 seed.
Not to worry - it's highly unlikely that this team could win an 8-9 game.
The question is - does a win in the 8/9 game against an equally mediocre program followed by a curb stomping at the hands of a Dayton bring back the Projos?
I think it does. That's the sad part.
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The question is - does a win in the 8/9 game against an equally mediocre program followed by a curb stomping at the hands of a Dayton bring back the Projos?
I think it does. That's the sad part.
Win the BET or make a sweet 16 run and I'll stay on the wagon. Win against SJU, one game in the BET and an NCAA game and I could probably be talked into keeping him.
I was mostly fine with an NCAA bid if it came with a 20 win, 10-8 conference season, but tonight was inexcusable.
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We aren't on the bubble. We aren't close to the bubble. We aren't one of the programs sweating if ETSU or San Diego State gets knocked out of their tournament.
Have you looked at any "worst case" type scenarios to see where we might fall to if we lose out? I assume our NET wouldn't slide much more than another 5 to 10 spots even in the worst scenario. And that would still keep up solidly in the field. Is that about right?
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The question is - does a win in the 8/9 game against an equally mediocre program followed by a curb stomping at the hands of a Dayton bring back the Projos?
I think it does. That's the sad part.
100% on point. The projos will be back en force. I would much rather just have wojo exit. But i fear its gonna be like a b horror movie. Just when you thought it was dead it just keeps on coming back!
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Yes, MU is in and it will be a great experience the players. I also think it is very clear that Wojo is done!
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The question is - does a win in the 8/9 game against an equally mediocre program followed by a curb stomping at the hands of a Dayton bring back the Projos?
I think it does. That's the sad part.
Please. A win against a Paul Reed-less DePaul team would’ve brought back the Projos. It doesn’t take much.
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Please. A win against a Paul Reed-less DePaul team would’ve brought back the Projos. It doesn’t take much.
Any most of the folks posting tonight would have quietly sulked away. Funny how that works, eh?
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Any most of the folks posting tonight would have quietly sulked away. Funny how that works, eh?
Because we are tired of having our noses rubbed in single digit victories over DePaul, home blow-outs of Georgetown, and NIT Elite Eight appearances. Ridiculous post.
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MU locked up a bid awhile ago. NCAA tournament isn't about the 68 best teams at the end of the season. It's about the 68 teams that earned a bid. We earned ours early. Would rather we have earned it late.
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Yep. We are in.
Totally different question than whether we will win, whether fans will care, or whether Wojo should go.
Yep we are in....a deep pile of doo doo.
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Have you looked at any "worst case" type scenarios to see where we might fall to if we lose out? I assume our NET wouldn't slide much more than another 5 to 10 spots even in the worst scenario. And that would still keep up solidly in the field. Is that about right?
There are a finite number of bids that can be stolen because they can only be stolen in leagues where champions will definitely make the field. So St John's winning the Big East would steal a bid, but Bowling Green winning the MAC wouldn't because Akron isn't getting an at-large.
Absolute worst case scenario would be 12 bids stolen: Big East, ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, American, WCC, A-10, & Mountain West for sure. If you squint, maybe the SoCon & MVC.
That eats up the 6 bids on the 11-line, 4 bids on the 10, and 2 on the 9. We are still 7/8 if you look at bracketmatrix. And a true worst case scenario of every possible bid being stolen won't happen. If 4 are stolen, that would be high. 6-7 would be unprecedented mayhem territory. There's no plausible scenario where we get to 10+ bids stolen. And even if we do, we're still safe, even with another Q1 loss.
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I posted this in another thread, but probably more relevant here.
Its truly amazing having watched this collapse first hand, but purely resume-wise, MU is still likely a 7 seed even with 2 more losses in a row. Now, maybe the committee would ding them a line or two in that scenario having lost 7 of 8 (cant blame them!), but purely from a resume standpoint, there is an ocean between MU and the last 4 in.
MU is 5-9 in Q1, 6-2 in Q2, Q3 2-0 and Q4 5-0, with a NET of 26. That is 11 Q1 and Q2 wins, and zero losses outside of Q1 and Q2 with only 7 games in that category.
Also MU won't have the chance to pick up and Q3 or Q4 losses rest of way. @SJU is Q1. Worst case losing to Depaul in BET at MSG would be Q2. So yeah...
Compare that to the last 4 at large teams in per bracket matrix:
Stanford Q1: 5-5; Q2: 2-3; Q3: 6-1; Q4: 7-0; NET 25
Cinci Q1: 2-6; Q2: 7-0; Q3: 7-4; Q4: 3-0; NET 51
UCLA Q1: 6-6, Q2: 3-3; Q3: 4-1; Q4: 5-1; NET 75
Utah State Q1: 2-4; Q2: 2-2: Q3: 7-2; Q4: 10-0; NET: 38
Its frankly not close.
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Will be hard to do. The team is a one-trick pony.
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I posted this in another thread, but probably more relevant here.
Its truly amazing having watched this collapse first hand, but purely resume-wise, MU is still likely a 7 seed even with 2 more losses in a row. Now, maybe the committee would ding them a line or two in that scenario having lost 7 of 8 (cant blame them!), but purely from a resume standpoint, there is an ocean between MU and the last 4 in.
MU is 5-9 in Q1, 6-2 in Q2, Q3 2-0 and Q4 5-0, with a NET of 26. That is 11 Q1 and Q2 wins, and zero losses outside of Q1 and Q2 with only 7 games in that category.
Also MU won't have the chance to pick up and Q3 or Q4 losses rest of way. @SJU is Q1. Worst case losing to Depaul in BET at MSG would be Q2. So yeah...
Compare that to the last 4 at large teams in per bracket matrix:
Stanford Q1: 5-5; Q2: 2-3; Q3: 6-1; Q4: 7-0; NET 25
Cinci Q1: 2-6; Q2: 7-0; Q3: 7-4; Q4: 3-0; NET 51
UCLA Q1: 6-6, Q2: 3-3; Q3: 4-1; Q4: 5-1; NET 75
Utah State Q1: 2-4; Q2: 2-2: Q3: 7-2; Q4: 10-0; NET: 38
Its frankly not close.
We're an 8 today on Bracketville. I think we could easily slide down to the 9 or 10 line if we keep losing. We won't miss the tournament but our seed could continue to slide.
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We're an 8 today on Bracketville. I think we could easily slide down to the 9 or 10 line if we keep losing. We won't miss the tournament but our seed could continue to slide.
Yah, I mean - I think we deserve a 9/10 seed if we finish the season losing 7/8, even if the resume looks a little better.
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Poll reset to zero. Facts have changed since first poll .
Final results of old poll 68.5 % yes 31.5% no
New poll adds option for winning Big East
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Poetic justice for y'all Dayton haters if MU is one of the last 4 in and da Flyers are a 1 seed, aina?
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Yes, they are a lock, stop this stupidity.
This hasn't changed.
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This hasn't changed.
Well things have certainly gotten stoopider since, so that changed :)