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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1SE on January 04, 2020, 02:47:24 PM
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Koby.
We had it.
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Dude, don't jinx it
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I wont edit title u til it's done
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Settle down.
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Markus. 8 boards. Clutch 3 to break the nova run in the second half. Can't look past him. Koby and Theo next two up.
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Markus.
Koby had a great first half. I think having him off the ball helped him a lot.
Theo played a great game. Blocks, rebounds, on ball and help defense, and even provided a little offense.
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Wojo for lifting the Ref up after tangle up with Koby.
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Update my pick. I say Koby. He scores for both teams!
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Missing these FTs at the end isnt helping the case
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Markus Howard
Honorable Mention - Koby McEwen
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Markus Howard
Honorable Mention - Koby McEwen
Yup yup yup yup yup
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Koby
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Theo for me. 6 points, 10 rebounds, 4 blocks. Two of the blocks were back to back when Nova got it down to nine. Game changing at time, then Morrow and Bailey blocks after that.
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I want to say Koby but it is Markus. Just unstoppable at times.
Tip of the cap to Theo. 10 boards, 4 blocks, and lots of intimidation.
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Markus for the way he opened the game and his surprisingly good defense the whole game. He's a decent defender overall but today he really used his body efficiently to stop drives and box out as well as forcing a few turnovers.
Oh yeah almost forgot to add #FTs matta. Perfect from the line.
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Markus.
Koby.
Theo.
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Brendan not in the running, but did want to mention his defense was awesome as well. Both on the ball and in help.
I also never, ever worry when he has the ball. He may force up a quick shot every now and then, but never turns it over and never really takes a shot that leads to a run out for the other team.
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Brendan not in the running, but did want to mention his defense was awesome as well. Both on the ball and in help.
For the most part the entire team contributed defensively. Won it for them in the second half.
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Everybody's (except a few jackholes) All American
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Markus with the best out-performance by Theo/Koby
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Headline: player scores 29 points and is somehow not unanimous SOTG.
Spoiled bunch, we are.
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Conflicted on this one.
I guess I'll go Markus for setting the tone and getting us the lead early.
Koby deserves great accolades as well.
And there's an argument for Theo. 33 minutes played, 4 blocks, 1 foul. Wat
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Markus, with Theo the HM. His presence in the paint kept things in check during the drought.
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Koby. His grit was infectious and did all the important things not reflected on the stat sheet in the second half.
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Koby
Nobody worked harder today.
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Clearly Mr 29/8. Though nice for Koby to have a get-right game.
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Koby. Markus was great, but Koby was difference maker
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MH and KM co STOG
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I say Theo. He is never going to score 20, but it doesn't mean his presence and play wasn't critical for winning the game. He was a BEAST today.
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Koby.
Markus was great, but Koby really stepped up.
Special shoutout to Theo. He played big, too.
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Markus Howard.
8 rebounds & 29 points. His rebounds and defence in the first 10 minutes set the tone of the game.
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Did anyone else notice the key fouls Markus drew early in the game. Beys foul trouble in the first half was as important as anything else in this game.
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Markus, but I'll give my HM to Sacar. Markus hit the 3 to end the drought, but after doing nothing offensively those two mid range when the game was still in question were huge. Also, like many, played great D.
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Markus. Koby was very good. Theo was the only big who looked good. Sacar had 2 huge buckets.
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Koby.
He scored so much that he generously gave a couple of his points to the other team.
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I’d go Koby because we needed him to break out of it badly.....and he did.
Special props to Theo......he is hurt and is gutting it out.
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Archie’s Bat
For donating to children’s hospital of Milwaukee just because he’s a stand up individual.
Thanks again Archie
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Headline: player scores 29 points and is somehow not unanimous SOTG.
Spoiled bunch, we are.
Is it Stud of the Game or Leading Scorer of the Game?
Koby scores 22 (13 above his season average, compared to 3 above his average for Markus), plays solid D with two steals and a block and CRUCIALLY is able to stay on the floor with Markus and Anim both sitting with foul trouble. This lets Wojo bring Markus back in a bit earlier than he otherwise might have. Also - after Markus fouls out he's still on the floor for the end-game FTs.
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I’ll go with Koby.
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Is it Stud of the Game or Leading Scorer of the Game?
Koby scores 22 (13 above his season average, compared to 3 above his average for Markus), plays solid D with two steals and a block and CRUCIALLY is able to stay on the floor with Markus and Anim both sitting with foul trouble. This lets Wojo bring Markus back in a bit earlier than he otherwise might have. Also - after Markus fouls out he's still on the floor for the end-game FTs.
But that's still comparing players to expectations which isn't what "STUD" of the game is about. Markus was the best player today. 29 points and 8 rebounds.
Koby was great though and it was much needed.
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Koby with special mention to Theo.
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Is it Stud of the Game or Leading Scorer of the Game?
Koby scores 22 (13 above his season average, compared to 3 above his average for Markus), plays solid D with two steals and a block and CRUCIALLY is able to stay on the floor with Markus and Anim both sitting with foul trouble. This lets Wojo bring Markus back in a bit earlier than he otherwise might have. Also - after Markus fouls out he's still on the floor for the end-game FTs.
Markus did so much more than score today. Besides his eight rebounds he played outstanding defense, set a nice screen for a wide open Koby trey, delivered a perfect alley oop for a Cain jam and drew quite a few important fouls early on and later in the game. I think SOTG should go to the player who contributed the most to the win. IMHO that player was Markus
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But that's still comparing players to expectations which isn't what "STUD" of the game is about. Markus was the best player today. 29 points and 8 rebounds.
Koby was great though and it was much needed.
But STOG isn't just a stat-stuffer (I don't think) - it's who came to play. Markus had a great game today too - he's a stud - but he also took 20 shots to get his 29 (compared to Koby's 12 for his 22), and you really can't emphasize the importance of Koby staying on the floor - with both your best O player and your best D guards sitting having your 2nd best in O and D staying on the floor is crucial.
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But STOG isn't just a stat-stuffer (I don't think) - it's who came to play. Markus had a great game today too - he's a stud - but he also took 20 shots to get his 29 (compared to Koby's 12 for his 22), and you really can't emphasize the importance of Koby staying on the floor - with both your best O player and your best D guards sitting having your 2nd best in O and D staying on the floor is crucial.
Reasonable take. I'm still going with Markus but Koby was excellent.
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I thought SOTG stood for "Surprise Of The Game." That's why I gave it to Koby.
I'll stick with my original pick, though. ;)
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Markus
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Markus going to be missed next year.
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Thro played his best game of the year.
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The D. We didn’t score for 8 minutes and kept a double digit lead.
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Markus. Established himself early and we rode him to big first half lead Nova couldn’t overcome. No one on Nova could guard him. Then he hits huge three out of timeout down the stretch when we couldn’t buy one.
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Markus. Established himself early and we rode him to big first half lead Nova couldn’t overcome. No one on Nova could guard him. Then he hits huge three out of timeout down the stretch when we couldn’t buy one.
Bullseye.
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Markus
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Brendan not in the running, but did want to mention his defense was awesome as well. Both on the ball and in help.
I also never, ever worry when he has the ball. He may force up a quick shot every now and then, but never turns it over and never really takes a shot that leads to a run out for the other team.
Good call. Bailey did a great job of staying in front of his man. The one time I recall that his guy blew by him, he did his usual great job of recovering and blocking the shot. Nice to see the solid D without the need for the recovery. Really like the way he is playing lately.
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For SOTG:
Markus
Koby
Theo
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Theo held court underneath! Intimidation, block shots, rebounds. Awesome big guy!
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Headline: player scores 29 points and is somehow not unanimous SOTG.
Spoiled bunch, we are.
It’s Koby. Howard chucks too many bad shots. 3/12 from 3, 20 shots overall. Not impressive. Koby 22 points on only 12 shots., much more important points when Howard was on the bench.
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I am not one who likes to avoid the obvious SOTG (Markus most games) to advocate for the second- or third-best choice, but this time, I really think Theo was our studliest stud from start to finish.
I would have absolutely no problem if Markus or Koby is selected (not that anybody cares if I would). They helped us take our big first-half lead and they made some nice contributions late. The 3 Markus hit down the stretch was crucial, and I liked the way he took it inside and drew fouls when little else was working for us.
However, defense won us this game, and Theo was huge. Frankly, I was surprised he only had 4 blocks, as it seemed he altered nearly every drive Nova had. Plus 10 rebounds, including a couple in traffic with us trying to hold off their late rally. On one late-game reb, he quickly handed off to Markus so Nova would have to foul Markus -- smart.
Now I read that he did it all despite playing with a thumb injury. Impressive and gutsy.
Theo
Markus
Koby
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Markus for sure.
His scoring-at-will in the first half had to be an absolute dagger to Jay and the Nova players.
Shout out to Theo though.
Also, not that it merits SOTG consideration, but props to Sacar for those two absolutely-crucial mid-range jumpers and stopping Nova's momentum.
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Koby... for overcoming his slump against the best team MU will play until March.
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Markus
Then Koby and Theo
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I think this is a really tough call. Markus set the tone early and hit a clutch 3 out of a second half timeout. Theo was an absolute beast down low especially with back to back blocks during our scoring drought. But the play of the game was Koby getting his arse on the ground to fight for that loose ball and get the TO. Non-con is over and playing like hairy wet cats had to end. Koby lead the 'man up' effort. SOTG.
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I think this is a really tough call. Markus set the tone early and hit a clutch 3 out of a second half timeout. Theo was an absolute beast down low especially with back to back blocks during our scoring drought. But the play of the game was Koby getting his arse on the ground to fight for that loose ball and get the TO. Non-con is over and playing like hairy wet cats had to end. Koby lead the 'man up' effort. SOTG.
Very reasonable and well-articulated argument for Koby winning this.
I think this is the toughest SOTG call this season. Most games have been obvious.
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I am not a Theo guy, but he is my SOTG. Starting with two pure quick free throws and played strong the entire game. Job well done by Theo.
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This is a tough one. I agree with Goose about the first play of the game setting the tone where Theo grabbed an offensive rebound, got fouled and amazingly pured the 2 FTs. Thought that was big. I'm also tend to favor Koby over Markus since he was more efficient offensively and stayed in the game until the very end making FTs (including 2 mulligans thanks to BB's offensive rebound off a FT miss). Tough call I'd say Koby Theo Markus
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(Geez that image is big)
Very aware my opinion no matta.
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It’s Koby. Howard chucks too many bad shots. 3/12 from 3, 20 shots overall. Not impressive.
I can think of two questionable shots Howard took yesterday, and one was the huge three he made coming out of the timeout when we desperately needed a bucket. Several shots were just off or in and out. God forbid one of the best shooters in the country takes 20 shots that are nearly all good looks (for him). In the past at times yes, but I think this narrative is tired and inaccurate this year. I’d be far more concerned if he didn’t take just about every good look he can get as long as others are involved. Some games he may go 3-12, but that won’t be the norm and we’d be stupid not to have him be a volume shooter.
Huge credit to Markus for the development of his ability to get good looks despite being the constant focal point of the defense. His ball handling improvement the last two years is pretty amazing. His quick crossovers into two swished mid-range jumpers yesterday were outstanding.
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I can think of two questionable shots Howard took yesterday, and one was the huge three he made coming out of the timeout when we desperately needed a bucket. Several shots were just off or in and out. God forbid one of the best shooters in the country takes 20 shots that are nearly all good looks (for him). In the past at times yes, but I think this narrative is tired and inaccurate this year. I’d be far more concerned if he didn’t take just about every good look he can get as long as others are involved. Some games he may go 3-12, but that won’t be the norm and we’d be stupid not to have him be a volume shooter.
Huge credit to Markus for the development of his ability to get good looks despite being the constant focal point of the defense. His ball handling improvement the last two years is pretty amazing. His quick crossovers into two swisher mid-range jumpers yesterday were outstanding.
It’s Koby. Howard chucks too many bad shots. 3/12 from 3, 20 shots overall. Not impressive. Koby 22 points on only 12 shots., much more important points when Howard was on the bench.
A handful of Koby's points were free throws when the game was out of reach. He played really well, especially relative to his terrible slump, but Markus set the tone opening the game on fire. His three to break the drought in the second half was the biggest shot of the game. He came out cold in the second as did the entire team. Couple that with his 8 boards.
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I can think of two questionable shots Howard took yesterday, and one was the huge three he made coming out of the timeout when we desperately needed a bucket. Several shots were just off or in and out. God forbid one of the best shooters in the country takes 20 shots that are nearly all good looks (for him). In the past at times yes, but I think this narrative is tired and inaccurate this year. I’d be far more concerned if he didn’t take just about every good look he can get as long as others are involved. Some games he may go 3-12, but that won’t be the norm and we’d be stupid not to have him be a volume shooter.
Huge credit to Markus for the development of his ability to get good looks despite being the constant focal point of the defense. His ball handling improvement the last two years is pretty amazing. His quick crossovers into two swisher mid-range jumpers yesterday were outstanding.
Outstanding take.
Markus has been great.
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Markus, especially with the 8 Defensive Rebounds. Koby then Theo. That said Greg had some key assists.
#ittakesavillage
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Huge credit to Markus for the development of his ability to get good looks despite being the constant focal point of the defense.
Additional huge credit to the coaching staff and his teammates for doing so as well.
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I can't believe people are selecting the Cancer for SOTG
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I can't believe people are selecting the Cancer for SOTG
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I'd have no problem with Koby or Theo. But Markus gets my vote. Set the tone in building a 20-point lead and played his guts out on both ends of the court. 29 points. 8 rebounds. 2 steals. Stud.
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It's Markus. And for me it wasn't that close. It took a great TEAM effort to pull off that first half, and great TEAM defense to keep the lead in the second half. Markus was the straw that stirred the drink though. He set the aggressive tone at the start of the game, and others followed suit. And then when nobody could score, he hit that nearly impossible double screen 3pt dagger that loosened up the offense again.
So if you'd like to believe he wasn't the Stud of the Game, you can call him the Straw of the Game. But he had 29 points and 8 (!!) rebounds.
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It's Markus. And for me it wasn't that close. It took a great TEAM effort to pull off that first half, and great TEAM defense to keep the lead in the second half. Markus was the straw that stirred the drink though. He set the aggressive tone at the start of the game, and others followed suit. And then when nobody could score, he hit that nearly impossible double screen 3pt dagger that loosed up the offense again.
So if you'd like to believe he wasn't the Stud of the Game, you can call him the Straw of the Game. But he had 29 points and 8 (!!) rebounds.
The only thing you left out was his defense. If you get a chance go back and watch how he guarded much bigger players. Used his body very well cutting guys off and boxing out. People focus a lot on his offense but his defense this last game was equally impressive.
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It's Markus. And for me it wasn't that close. It took a great TEAM effort to pull off that first half, and great TEAM defense to keep the lead in the second half. Markus was the straw that stirred the drink though. He set the aggressive tone at the start of the game, and others followed suit. And then when nobody could score, he hit that nearly impossible double screen 3pt dagger that loosened up the offense again.
So if you'd like he Straw of the Game. But he had 29 points and 8 (!!) rebounds.
How about Stat-Stuffer of the Game (SSOTG) if that's all this comes down to? Plus most of those were easy rebounds
I can't really argue (and it doesn't matter if I do) - we don't win the game without Markus. But he was off the floor for over 25% of the game. If you told me before the game that Markus was only going to play 29 minutes and foul out I would have guessed a L. If Koby didn't step up in those minutes, especially in the 1st half, I think it would have been a very different game.
Has 22pts ever not been SOTG for any player other than Markus?
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Has 22pts ever not been SOTG for any player other than Markus?
I'm sure in games with multiple 22+ point scorers (Rowsey, Hauser days).
Honestly, it shouldn't bother anyone that Howard is dominating this. We have a legitimate National Player of the Year candidate. He leads the nation in scoring and is undoubtedly one of the best players in the country. If we finish as a top-4 seed, he will be one of the two or three players seriously considered for the highest individual award in the sport. When you have a guy who's that good, he's going to be your best player most nights.