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Title: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 03, 2020, 11:44:44 PM
Is he worth showcasing every game just so Marquette gets some national press on a regular basis even at the expense of other players development and perhaps even wins?
Many seem to have already written off this coach this team and this season so should Wojo focus solely on getting Markus 30-40 shots a game for program recognition.
If you're not going to win the conference or make the tournament you might as well go all in on individual honors. If the fans can't enjoy a winning team at least they can enjoy a singular talent. I guess the question is would attendance and viewership be affected positively or negatively. Seeing as the season is already a bust that's all that really matters now. Right?

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Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 03, 2020, 11:48:52 PM
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 03, 2020, 11:44:44 PM
Is he worth showcasing every game just so Marquette gets some national press on a regular basis even at the expense of other players development and perhaps even wins?
Many seem to have already written off this coach this team and this season so should Wojo focus solely on getting Markus 30-40 shots a game for program recognition.
If you're not going to win the conference or make the tournament you might as well go all in on individual honors. If the fans can't enjoy a winning team at least they can enjoy a singular talent. I guess the question is would attendance and viewership be affected positively or negatively. Seeing as the season is already a bust that's all that really matters now. Right?

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Pass.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Goose on January 04, 2020, 05:33:30 AM
Michael Jordan was must see TV.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 04, 2020, 07:29:20 AM
You can see the same thing at the Y on Saturday mornings, hey?
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: The Sultan on January 04, 2020, 07:36:21 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.

Dumb. When he drops 50 I don't care how many assists he has.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 04, 2020, 07:36:21 AM
Dumb. When he drops 50 I don't care how many assists he has.

You're not reading into the statement enough.  If Howard was averaging 10 assists he'd be much more of a dynamic player..... something you'd have to tune in and see all the time.  Howard doesn't drop 50 every game, if he did....then he's must see.  Otherwise he's a shooter, of which, you can find at other levels of CBB.  If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: lawdog77 on January 04, 2020, 08:11:27 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.
I don't think you know how TV works.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WarriorFan on January 04, 2020, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 04, 2020, 10:47:10 AM
This fan base is a disgrace and deserves nothing if they can't appreciate Markus Howard. 
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on January 04, 2020, 11:01:45 AM
Yes, Markus Howard is must see basketball. Period!
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: mubb3434 on January 04, 2020, 11:08:26 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 04, 2020, 10:47:10 AM
This fan base is a disgrace and deserves nothing if they can't appreciate Markus Howard.

He has to be the most under appreciated player in MU history. It's disgusting.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Cheeks on January 04, 2020, 11:11:20 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
You're not reading into the statement enough.  If Howard was averaging 10 assists he'd be much more of a dynamic player..... something you'd have to tune in and see all the time.  Howard doesn't drop 50 every game, if he did....then he's must see.  Otherwise he's a shooter, of which, you can find at other levels of CBB.  If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.

My God are you out of your depth as if you had any.  The things you have said the last 72 hours just keep rolling.

Games are largely predetermined as part of a contract with broadcasters and the conference.  You'll notice in today's nationally televised game the promos run all week talked about MU with Markus Howard. 
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on January 04, 2020, 11:21:11 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:53:43 AM
You're not reading into the statement enough.  If Howard was averaging 10 assists he'd be much more of a dynamic player..... something you'd have to tune in and see all the time.  Howard doesn't drop 50 every game, if he did....then he's must see.  Otherwise he's a shooter, of which, you can find at other levels of CBB.  If Howard was must see, he'd be featured on the major networks/prime time, etc.

Dumb.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 04, 2020, 07:29:20 AM
You can see the same thing at the Y on Saturday mornings, hey?
Many years ago in the 70s I used to work out at Y . There was an old guy in there , a dentist by profession, who would control the gym for hours on end  . It was winners stay on the court . That cat , who was in his late 50s early 60s ,was must see TV. Had a nasty ass set shot and great court vision.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 04, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
Markus is only must see tv if he averages close to 10 assists a game.  Otherwise he just doesn't have the physicality to be eye popping. You can find same style, scorers like him in the mid majors as well.
So the repeatedly demonstrated ability to put up 30, 40 and even 50 isn't enough to warrant fans tuning in ?
With all the variables in college basketball I have no idea what this teams overall success will be this season(actually I'm thinking low seed in the big dance) but the one constant I'm fairly confident in is Markus consistently putting on a show. And I'm going to enjoy it. I'm also hoping big time recruits enjoy watching the freedom Markus is afforded and consider coming to Marquette.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Class71 on January 04, 2020, 11:49:41 AM
I enjoy Markus` offensive ability. He has unique skills and I am glad he joined MU.

I would not sacrifice wins for any one player. That is not a knock on Markus. I simply place more value on the MU program than on any individual player or coach.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 04, 2020, 11:52:47 AM
I don't understand this thread.  All of the games are already scheduled on the tv networks, so "showcasing" him won't make a bit of difference in that respect.  Markus is always the first, second, and third thing brought up during Marquette broadcasts, and when MU highlights are shown on FS1 and ESPN.  We already showcase him every single night—he's averaging nearly 30ppg.  If we make the tournament, when they announce our seed, they'll say, "Markus Howard and the Marquette Golden Eagles."  He was picked to be a pre-season first team All American.  What more do you want?  What more could there possibly be?

Wait a minute, are you the "Joe" from that old Peter Boyle movie from the early 70s, somehow transported through time to the year 2020?  You have a lot to learn, my son.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 11:55:07 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 11:22:52 AM
Many years ago in the 70s I used to work out at Y . There was an old guy in there , a dentist by profession, who would control the gym for hours on end  . It was winners stay on the court . That cat , who was in his late 50s early 60s ,was must see TV. Had a nasty ass set shot and great court vision.
Are you seriously comparing a 50-60 year old guy from the 70s playing in the Y to Markus and D1 competition??
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: Silent Verbal on January 04, 2020, 11:52:47 AM
I don't understand this thread.  All of the games are already scheduled on the tv networks, so "showcasing" him won't make a bit of difference in that respect.  Markus is always the first, second, and third thing brought up during Marquette broadcasts, and when MU highlights are shown on FS1 and ESPN.  We already showcase him every single night—he's averaging nearly 30ppg.  If we make the tournament, when they announce our seed, they'll say, "Markus Howard and the Marquette Golden Eagles."  He was picked to be a pre-season first team All American.  What more do you want?  What more could there possibly be?

Wait a minute, are you the "Joe" from that old Peter Boyle movie from the early 70s, somehow transported through time to the year 2020?  You have a lot to learn, my son.
Yep........ You don't understand this thread.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 04, 2020, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 04, 2020, 11:01:45 AM
Yes, Markus Howard is must see basketball. Period!

Yep, sometimes you have to take your Glasses off to see what is happening.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
Looking forward to a huge game today from Markus.

Fox Broadcast network.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
Looking forward to a huge game today from Markus.

Fox Broadcast network.
I'm looking for 25-30 pts, 6-8 assists, 5+ rebounds and a couple steals. Less points and more assists if/when Nova tries to take him out of the game.
Yeah I know, low expectations.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 04, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
Looking forward to a huge game today from Markus.

Fox Broadcast network.
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 01:17:19 PM
I'm looking for 25-30 pts, 6-8 assists, 5+ rebounds and a couple steals. Less points and more assists if/when Nova tries to take him out of the game.
Yeah I know, low expectations.
Pretty much on track for what I was thinking which was a big performance in general . Probably will end up with what your thinking specifically.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 04, 2020, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 03, 2020, 11:44:44 PM
Is he worth showcasing every game

Yes!
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Markusquette on January 04, 2020, 02:00:23 PM
Arguably the best scorer in college basketball within the last decade.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: jesmu84 on January 04, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
Hold on.

Are there actually Marquette "fans" here saying Markus is no different than a mid major shooter or a aging pickup player?

You're either trolls or morons
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2020, 03:04:16 PM
We're going to miss this kid more than most can possibly imagine.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 04, 2020, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 04, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
Hold on.

Are there actually Marquette "fans" here saying Markus is no different than a mid major shooter or a aging pickup player?

You're either trolls or morons

trollons
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2020, 03:04:16 PM
We're going to miss this kid more than most can possibly imagine.
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Yeah we will miss him.... Though I saw some signs today when he was on the bench that the team will be successful post Markus. Different for sure, but still successful. Especially with the incoming class+ ( fingers crossed ) " Kareem Mah nay "
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: Markusquette on January 04, 2020, 04:00:52 PM
Also saw some signs where they looked incredibly clueless as to what to do when he was on the bench. Wasn't pretty. We'll be fine with his replacements, but can't understate the importance of appreciating what we have right now as fans.
Title: Re: Is Markus must see basketball?
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 04, 2020, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: Markusquette on January 04, 2020, 04:00:52 PM
Also saw some signs where they looked incredibly clueless as to what to do when he was on the bench. Wasn't pretty. We'll be fine with his replacements, but can't understate the importance of appreciating what we have right now as fans.
Point taken, though I have to believe that the guys currently on the team and those coming in will continue to improve. Specifically Symir. Really hoping he makes great strides by next year.
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