Per Mr. Steele
So says fellow Scooper Ben Steele
Ben Steele
@BenSteeleMJS
Marquette freshman guard Dexter Akanno will redshirt this season to focus on development. Will ask Coach Wojciechowski about it after the game. #mubb
https://twitter.com/bensteelemjs/status/1191866151799795712?s=21
Marquette freshman guard Dexter Akanno will redshirt this season to focus on development. Will ask Coach Wojciechowski about it after the game. #mubb
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Good decision.....let's hope it works out as well as it did for Sacar.
The whiteboard lied!
Now we are down to 9 players. 1 or 2 more injuries we could be looking at 8 or 7 players.
Quote from: MuMark on November 05, 2019, 06:06:14 PM
Good decision.....let's hope it works out as well as it did for Sacar.
Completely forgot Sacar redshirted.
Can we forgive Ben for not posting it first on Scoop? Arby's Time for Steele
Makes sense.
See you in a year, Mr. Akanno, bigger, stronger and better than ever!
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 05, 2019, 06:11:02 PM
Now we are down to 9 players. 1 or 2 more injuries we could be looking at 8 or 7 players.
Then redshirt off it need be
Yep. He's in a slick as$ lookin suit right now.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 05, 2019, 06:11:02 PM
Now we are down to 9 players. 1 or 2 more injuries we could be looking at 8 or 7 players.
Yank the redshirt if you have to
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 05, 2019, 06:11:02 PM
Now we are down to 9 players. 1 or 2 more injuries we could be looking at 8 or 7 players.
Gardiner is on scholarship. The kid earned it. Jayce will be back and Dexter can always come off if early in the season.
Love that Wojo is able to get guys to buy into this plan. Some risk of a grad transfer if the guy turns into a solid contributor but wants to be a star elsewhere as a super senior but huge upside as we saw with Sacar.
Offhand I cannot think of a redshirt working better for any player as it has for Sacar. Wonder if that was a factor.
Sacar is a great role model.
Quote from: Cheeks on November 05, 2019, 06:48:28 PM
Yank the redshirt if you have to
Right. Redshirt is just a description of not playing a second.
Akanno redshirting = a plan, subject to change.
So, we're not down to x players because of him planning to redshirt.
Not a decision. A plan.
#NoDoneDeal
Quote from: MU82 on November 05, 2019, 06:35:57 PM
Makes sense.
See you in a year, Mr. Akanno, bigger, stronger and better than ever!
By this statement you certainly haven't seen dex in person. Bigger and stronger are on the bottom of his list.
Sacar approach 2.0 percent that is what this is...not getting stronger and bigger.
Quote from: We R Final Four on November 05, 2019, 09:53:26 PM
By this statement you certainly haven't seen dex in person. Bigger and stronger are on the bottom of his list.
Sacar approach 2.0 percent that is what this is...not getting stronger and bigger.
You are right. I assumed he was your standard frosh, body-wise. I guess this is an example where I shouldn't have assumed.
I will gladly accept Sacar 2.0. Thanks for the insight.
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 05, 2019, 08:51:59 PM
Right. Redshirt is just a description of not playing a second.
Akanno redshirting = a plan, subject to change.
So, we're not down to x players because of him planning to redshirt.
Not a decision. A plan.
#NoDoneDeal
I certainly don't claim to be knowledgeable in the intricacies of red shirting and ncaa , etc. but it shocks me that scoopers still believe this to be more of an absolute than a fluid progression.
If we need him....we have him..
We are not down to X players and now without hope because he may take a redshirt year. Consider having like Matt Moore, save he's already signed.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 05, 2019, 07:22:28 PM
Offhand I cannot think of a redshirt working better for any player as it has for Sacar. Wonder if that was a factor.
I am sure it was discussed, how Sacar went from redshirt to a starter. This is a good move for him, would have mop up minutes only this year.
Secondly, right now they have no guards coming in next year unless it is a grad transfer so it will be Elliott, McEwen, Torrence with Dex. Room for a grad transfer for sure, a shooter.
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 06, 2019, 09:20:03 AM
I am sure it was discussed, how Sacar went from redshirt to a starter. This is a good move for him, would have mop up minutes only this year.
Secondly, right now they have no guards coming in next year unless it is a grad transfer so it will be Elliott, McEwen, Torrence with Dex. Room for a grad transfer for sure, a shooter.
Without Markus next year we'll need one.
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 06, 2019, 09:20:03 AM
I am sure it was discussed, how Sacar went from redshirt to a starter. This is a good move for him, would have mop up minutes only this year.
Secondly, right now they have no guards coming in next year unless it is a grad transfer so it will be Elliott, McEwen, Torrence with Dex. Room for a grad transfer for sure, a shooter.
Grad transfer shooters don't grow on trees...that's not a very good plan IMO. Grad transfers are best when there is a missing piece in a role playing spot. Maybe there will be a Carlino or Katlin out there but a GT shooter has always been an odd piece for long-term program development .
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 05, 2019, 07:22:28 PM
Offhand I cannot think of a redshirt working better for any player as it has for Sacar. Wonder if that was a factor.
Love reading this. For years I've wanted MU to utilize redshirting. Sacar really developed. At Wisconsin, didn't Frank the Tank redshirt. Or am I thinking of Happ
Quote from: AZMarqfan on November 07, 2019, 06:33:29 PM
Love reading this. For years I've wanted MU to utilize redshirting. Sacar really developed. At Wisconsin, didn't Frank the Tank redshirt. Or am I thinking of Happ
Both!
I don't think Kaminsky redshirted....I recall him playing sparingly as a frosh .... Happ defintely did.
Jay Wright at Villanova has had a lot of success with red shirts over the years ( red shirting for various reasons.)
Obviously SNC was an incredibly small sample size, but he did not look ready to contribute in any significant way. Good for everyone to take the year getting better.
So is it official?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on November 11, 2019, 06:37:51 PM
So is it official?
Nope, wont be official until the end of the year. He can still suit up at any time. Highly unlikely, but technically possible.
With Ed gone and no timetable on Elliot's return time to burn it?
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2020, 07:12:37 AM
With Ed gone and no timetable on Elliot's return time to burn it?
No way. Imagine if we burned Anim's RS early.
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2020, 07:12:37 AM
With Ed gone and no timetable on Elliot's return time to burn it?
His current role, holding the celebrating bench back from the floor when someone makes a crazy shot, is keeping him plenty busy. :)
Quote from: Markusquette on January 22, 2020, 07:14:52 AM
No way. Imagine if we burned Anim's RS early.
I think this is a bit of a syllogism.
Hausershima aside, it was pretty clear this team was also running out of gas in the 2nd half of the BE season last year. If we don't get Elliot back soon I'm afraid it's going to happen again. Symir is picking up the slack nicely but it certainly wouldn't be bad to have an extra set of legs to keep Koby, Sacar and Brendan a bit fresher.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 22, 2020, 07:17:38 AM
His current role, holding the celebrating bench back from the floor when someone makes a crazy shot, is keeping him plenty busy. :)
Even better for him to join in making the shots!
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2020, 07:28:55 AM
I think this is a bit of a syllogism.
Hausershima aside, it was pretty clear this team was also running out of gas in the 2nd half of the BE season last year. If we don't get Elliot back soon I'm afraid it's going to happen again. Symir is picking up the slack nicely but it certainly wouldn't be bad to have an extra set of legs to keep Koby, Sacar and Brendan a bit fresher.
Well, they could pull the redshirt any time if Wojo and his assistants start to think the team is getting burned out. To do so, all they'll have to do is play him.
Also, what Akanno wants is paramount. If he and his family already are convinced that a redshirt is best for him, that matters.
We are glad Sacar redshirted. Many of us wish Junior had. It's unnecessary to decide anything now.
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2020, 07:12:37 AM
With Ed gone and no timetable on Elliot's return time to burn it?
Yeah, no. And it's Elliott. The guy has been here for nearly 3 years.
Quote from: 1SE on January 22, 2020, 07:28:55 AM
I think this is a bit of a syllogism.
Hausershima aside, it was pretty clear this team was also running out of gas in the 2nd half of the BE season last year. If we don't get Elliot back soon I'm afraid it's going to happen again. Symir is picking up the slack nicely but it certainly wouldn't be bad to have an extra set of legs to keep Koby, Sacar and Brendan a bit fresher.
I think it's fair to deduce that it would not be a significant enough help to warrant pulling his RS for less than half a season. Run with Symir for now. Is it not a syllogism then to compare this season with last in that regard? The team "running out of gas" could lie more in the tumultuous relationships forming on the team rather than being shorthanded or simply tired from conference play.
I dont know that there needs to be a whole lot of analysis here. We have enough guards to get through games at the appropriate energy level today. If that changes and Dexter can guard his position/contribute - then you pull it. We are certainly not there now.
Even if Dexter is Big East ready, by the time he knocked off the rust the season would be pretty much over. Symir has game experience now and it would make a lot more sense to give him more minutes, then to burn Dexter's redshirt. Now if we learn that Greg won't be back AND there is another injury, maybe it would be something to consider.
I am guessing Greg's injury is the dreaded high ankle sprain, which generally means 3-6 weeks. I think he is 2 weeks into it already, so the earliest he will be back would be next week.
Tommy Gardiner is on schollie. Those aren't given lightly. Ed is a 4/5. Sacar and Bailey can play the 2/3 or 3/4. Cain is a 3/4. MH, Koby and Sy at the 1/2. I see no reason today why Dex should burn his redshirt as the 1/2 is well-covered. Now, if he were 6'7"?
Injuries will change needs, but Greg's roles are covered with strengths so I don't see the fit Dex would cover. Ed's spot is another issue. The safety depth if an injury occurs to our bigs is Bailey and Tommy at the 4/5, whereas Sam and Joey could have flexed big. Heck, we even talked about Joey starting at the 5 this year with Koby off redshirt and Sacar moving back to a 3. Dex doesn't fill that hole.
Let's please not start the discussion of 18-22 year olds running out of gas playing twice a week again.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on January 22, 2020, 08:43:43 AM
Let's please not start the discussion of 18-22 year olds running out of gas playing twice a week again.
Because they are lounging around in the dorms the other 164 hours of the week?
Quote from: warriorchick on January 22, 2020, 08:54:17 AM
Because they are lounging around in the dorms the other 164 hours of the week?
Did I say that? They also have rest days and practices. They aren't going game speed all practice every practice.
The scoop myth of tired legs that only effect Marquette is well... A Scoop myth
It isn't a scoop myth. It is widely accepted that some teams wear down. IMO, the scoop myth is that once you don the MU uniform of the day, you should be impervious to fatigue, injuries, slumps, freshman mistakes, freshman wall, other good teams trying to win.
Still no?
Quote from: 1SE on January 30, 2020, 12:43:08 AM
Still no?
Intriguing...but I'd have to say no. Especially considering how well Sacar has developed under Wojos tutelage.
Quote from: CountryRoads on January 30, 2020, 12:59:29 AM
Intriguing...but I'd have to say no. Especially considering how well Sacar has developed under Wojos tutelage.
Unless he thinks one of the walk-ons is a better proposition, he may not have much of a choice. If Markus is out for any extended period of time(I hope not) and Greg is slow to get back to where he was pre-injury, Wojo may be forced to ask Dexter to burn his red shirt, or risk burning out the whole team. I'm guessing if Markus and Greg can't go against DePaul, Wojo will try it with what he's got, and see how it goes. Maybe slow the game down and take his chances. It's risky because these guys have been playing a lot of OT with an already limited bench. They have to be getting worn down.
Markus' and Gregs status is critical right now. Hopefully the miracles of modern medicine can work some wonders on both of them.
Akanno's redshirt isn't getting burned. If this somehow turned into Markus being out the whole season (no reason to think it would) then we are heading for the NIT or a first round exit. Akanno being active wouldn't change that.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on January 30, 2020, 03:13:00 AM
Akanno's redshirt isn't getting burned. If this somehow turned into Markus being out the whole season (no reason to think it would) then we are heading for the NIT or a first round exit. Akanno being active wouldn't change that.
I guess the bigger question is if Elliot isn't coming back - is there any update on his timeline for return?
Without him we're really at an 8-man roster - with two bigs prone to foul trouble. That's pretty thin for March when you're looking at potentially 3 or 4 straight games in the BET and two games in 3 days on an NCAA weekend.
I get at this point you would be asking Akanno to burn a year of eligibility for what would be, at best, spot minutes. But from a program standpoint, if those spot minutes are the marginal difference between one more BET or NCAA win is it worth it? Plus - the trade off is a year of Akanno eligibility 4 years from now. SO many things can and will happen between now and then - he could get recruited over and transfer, he could get hurt, Wojo could get fired, etc etc. It kind of comes down to a discussion of a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
Was thinking about this during the game. In 2OT we were down to 6 guys, two of whom were bigs.
Koby
Sacar
Jamal
Symir
Theo
Jayce
Markus injury
Brendan foul out
Koby was playing with four fouls. If he fouls out, where do we go next? Is Greg healthy enough to play if needed? (he looked like he was in warmups). One of the walk-ons? Two bigs?
Two bigs.
Quote from: SaveOD238 on January 30, 2020, 06:20:58 AM
Was thinking about this during the game. In 2OT we were down to 6 guys, two of whom were bigs.
Koby
Sacar
Jamal
Symir
Theo
Jayce
Markus injury
Brendan foul out
Koby was playing with four fouls. If he fouls out, where do we go next? Is Greg healthy enough to play if needed? (he looked like he was in warmups). One of the walk-ons? Two bigs?
I was thinking exact same thing. Real glad we didn't have to find out.
I'm think Greg tapes up and gets minutes Saturday.
Someone remind me again how it works - could Akanno be suited up and ready to be put in if needed but only burns the redshirt if he actually plays - or does he burn the redhirt if he's on an "active roster" (is that even a thing)?
Quote from: 1SE on January 30, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
Someone remind me again how it works - could Akanno be suited up and ready to be put in if needed but only burns the redshirt if he actually plays - or does he burn the redhirt if he's on an "active roster" (is that even a thing)?
Also curious. I thought he could suit up and do everything except play in the game. I think the badgers burned Reuvers redshirt surprisingly. Obviously, he was suited up and ready to go.
It was weird with Greg, he was shown shooting and running in a video Marquette's twitter posted before the game but was on the bench with a boot
Quote from: 1SE on January 30, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
Someone remind me again how it works - could Akanno be suited up and ready to be put in if needed but only burns the redshirt if he actually plays - or does he burn the redhirt if he's on an "active roster" (is that even a thing)?
He only burns his redshirt if he actually enters a game to play.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 30, 2020, 09:28:23 AM
He only burns his redshirt if he actually enters a game to play.
Yep. He can be dressed. He can warm up. He can be ready to go. Heck, he could even be in a shirt and tie and go back to the locker room to get his uniform on. If he doesn't enter the game his redshirt is neatly tucked away and safe.
Without knowing Markus' status and assuming he can't play, I think the emergency pecking order is 1) Greg running around for a few minutes to give someone a blow, 2) double bigs, 3) Tommy at the 4 sliding Brendan and Cain down for the minutes he's on the court, 4) calling Ed, 5) losing a game, 6) asking Dexter to give up a year of eligibility.
Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on January 30, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
It was weird with Greg, he was shown shooting and running in a video Marquette's twitter posted before the game but was on the bench with a boot
That's not really weird. He worked it out. Put on the boot after to help with stability.
Quote from: jsglow on January 30, 2020, 09:31:47 AM
Yep. He can be dressed. He can warm up. He can be ready to go. Heck, he could even be in a shirt and tie and go back to the locker room to get his uniform on. If he doesn't enter the game his redshirt is neatly tucked away and safe.
Without knowing Markus' status and assuming he can't play, I think the emergency pecking order is 1) Greg running around for a few minutes to give someone a blow, 2) double bigs, 3) Tommy at the 4 sliding Brendan and Cain down for the minutes he's on the court, 4) calling Ed, 5) losing a game, 6) asking Dexter to give up a year of eligibility.
Where does Sam walking in like Bill Murray rank on there?
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Quote from: 1SE on January 30, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
Someone remind me again how it works - could Akanno be suited up and ready to be put in if needed but only burns the redshirt if he actually plays - or does he burn the redhirt if he's on an "active roster" (is that even a thing)?
There is no redshirt - it's not a thing, it's a description of a player who doesn't play a single second of a game.
So, don't play a single second all season and you're a redshirt.
They should change the NCAAB rule to more closely align with the NCAAF rule. I think players are allowed 4 appearances in college football without it counting as a season of eligibility used. That's a little ridiculous in college football (a third of the season), but I don't see anything wrong with allowing four appearances in a red-shirt year over a 30 game college basketball season. Use three games against cupcakes and save one for emergencies like last night.
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2020, 06:32:49 AM
Two bigs.
Yep, and X actually is a team we could have gotten away with it against.
Weird to think that Theo and Jayce were two guys who WEREN'T in foul trouble at the end of a 2OT game!
Gonna play doctor here (which is OK, because my wife is a nurse) ...
If it's not a concussion, and Wojo came right out and said it wasn't, I'm guessing Markus plays Saturday. Maybe with a mask? Maybe, but I'd bet he plays.
You get through that game and you then have 8 days till the next one. By that time, hopefully Elliott is back.
The emergency option: Go bigger, use Gardiner, use walkons, get Mane in uniform quickly.
If both Wojo and Akanno's family want Akanno to sit out the entire season for eligibility and other reasons, you simply don't play him.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 30, 2020, 09:49:56 AM
Where does Sam walking in like Bill Murray rank on there?
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I can hear this gif
Quote from: jsglow on January 30, 2020, 09:31:47 AM
Without knowing Markus' status and assuming he can't play, I think the emergency pecking order is 1) Greg running around for a few minutes to give someone a blow, 2) double bigs, 3) Tommy at the 4 sliding Brendan and Cain down for the minutes he's on the court, 4) calling Ed, 5) losing a game, 6) asking Dexter to give up a year of eligibility.
4b) Ike suiting up.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on January 30, 2020, 11:58:52 AM
4b) Ike suiting up.
I don't think this is an option. Wish it was.
The only way I burn the Akanno red shirt is if Greg and Markus are both known to be out for another month. Because then he gets a baptism by fire and 15 mpg.
Akanno will not be a difference maker. We will not make the NCAA tournament with him, if we cannot do it without him.
Quote from: bilsu on January 30, 2020, 02:06:16 PM
Akanno will not be a difference maker. We will not make the NCAA tournament with him, if we cannot do it without him.
Yep, that's it in a Nutshell.
Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
The only way I burn the Akanno red shirt is if Greg and Markus are both known to be out for another month. Because then he gets a baptism by fire and 15 mpg.
If Markus and Greg are out for DePaul, someone has to step in and play. It will probably be Gardiner, with Sacar assuming more of a point guard role at times, like he has done in the past. I don't have enough information on Gardiner or Akanno to know what Wojo is going to do. I do know this next game is just as important if not more so than any game coming up, so anything is possible.
Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 30, 2020, 02:11:41 PM
If Markus and Greg are out for DePaul, someone has to step in and play. It will probably be Gardiner, with Sacar assuming more of a point guard role at times, like he has done in the past. I don't have enough information on Gardiner or Akanno to know what Wojo is going to do. I do know this next game is just as important if not more so than any game coming up, so anything is possible.
Maybe gardiner gets some spot minutes as I believe he was known as a mid major talent but first option would likely be max minutes before Tommy gets a look
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 30, 2020, 02:29:35 PM
Maybe gardiner gets some spot minutes as I believe he was known as a mid major talent but first option would likely be max minutes before Tommy gets a look
They've been running a lot of max minutes anyway.
I know its DePaul but each win in the BE this year is worth its weight in gold. Certainly couldn't hurt to have Akanno ready to play if needed.
I really dont get this fetishism over preserving his year of eligibility. He could be the next Sacar but he just as easily could not. If our hope/expectation is that Wojo's recruiting trajectory continues upwards then he'll be a rotation guy at best in 3 years anyway. If having him available or in gives us a better shot of a W now (and I'm sure his value add is more then Gardiner's) then this should be a no brainer
Quote from: 1SE on January 31, 2020, 01:30:47 AM
They've been running a lot of max minutes anyway.
I know its DePaul but each win in the BE this year is worth its weight in gold. Certainly couldn't hurt to have Akanno ready to play if needed.
I really dont get this fetishism over preserving his year of eligibility. He could be the next Sacar but he just as easily could not. If our hope/expectation is that Wojo's recruiting trajectory continues upwards then he'll be a rotation guy at best in 3 years anyway. If having him available or in gives us a better shot of a W now (and I'm sure his value add is more then Gardiner's) then this should be a no brainer
The whole "if he gives us a better shot" statement is the key. He redshirted this year because he wasn't Big East ready and while he practices he has zero game speed experience and you can't just throw him into that against DePaul and expect him to help the team. Look at Symir Torrence, he is theoretically more talented than Akanno and has been getting plenty of minutes and still has plays that negatively impact the team.....it would be unfair to think Akanno could come in and even do that so what is he really helping? If Greg and Markus are out, go max minutes, we have 8 days until the next game and only 2 games in a 13 day period so they'll be fine for the balance of the season, just get the most out of your best talent and see what happens.
Again, does anybody know what Akanno and his family want? If they prefer the redshirt, it's a no-brainer that MU doesn't even think about playing him a second. And given his likely contribution, it wouldn't be very fair to put him in a situation in which we "needed" him to succeed this season.
As for "max minutes" ...
These are finely tuned, 19-23-year-old athletes. There is a 3-minute-long TV timeout every 4 minutes of game action. There are 8 timeouts called by coaches. There are TV replay timeouts most games, and injury timeouts many games.
As Bobby Knight once said, "If these kids are getting tired, they need to go find another sport that doesn't ask them to move around much."
Koby and Sacar were at their very best Wednesday when they had already played max minutes. Those who were tired need to get in better shape.
Quote from: MU82 on January 31, 2020, 09:00:16 AM
As for "max minutes" ...
These are finely tuned, 19-23-year-old athletes. There is a 3-minute-long TV timeout every 4 minutes of game action. There are 8 timeouts called by coaches. There are TV replay timeouts most games, and injury timeouts many games.
This is something of a scoop myth. That young 20s get tired playing 2 games a week. Scoop always talk about dead legs at the end of the season.
But that's what it is. A myth. I played 28 games a year without the rehab and training staff these guys have. We never got "tired" at the end of the season.
These guys have plenty of rest. Better teams run 8 man rotations all the time. Quite a few lean heavy into 7.
Quote from: 1SE on January 31, 2020, 01:30:47 AM
They've been running a lot of max minutes anyway.
I know its DePaul but each win in the BE this year is worth its weight in gold. Certainly couldn't hurt to have Akanno ready to play if needed.
I really dont get this fetishism over preserving his year of eligibility. He could be the next Sacar but he just as easily could not. If our hope/expectation is that Wojo's recruiting trajectory continues upwards then he'll be a rotation guy at best in 3 years anyway. If having him available or in gives us a better shot of a W now (and I'm sure his value add is more then Gardiner's) then this should be a no brainer
In the 2 times I saw Akanno he probably was much better than Sacar as a frosh. He has a much quicker shot and looks physically stronger than Anim at the same time. Wojo thinks he can be a star, not sure about that nor the progression of his future. Sacar has really improved his shot and his game. If I would have told anybody before the season he could get 28 in a game most people probably would think I am nuts. Sacar is playing like a senior should play during his 5th season
at MU, good for him and the program. If they do not get Mane next year, I can see Akanno possibly starting.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on January 31, 2020, 10:03:59 AM
This is something of a scoop myth. That young 20s get tired playing 2 games a week. Scoop always talk about dead legs at the end of the season.
But that's what it is. A myth. I played 28 games a year without the rehab and training staff these guys have. We never got "tired" at the end of the season.
These guys have plenty of rest. Better teams run 8 man rotations all the time. Quite a few lean heavy into 7.
It isn't a scoop myth. Izzo talked about it last year with Cassius. K talked about it last year with his all frosh team. I will take the word of those two over you.
Quote from: BCHoopster on January 31, 2020, 10:11:39 AMIf they do not get Mane next year, I can see Akanno possibly starting.
Dex would be one of, if not the best on-ball defender they have on this year's team. That alone will get him minutes next year.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2020, 10:18:11 AM
It isn't a scoop myth. Izzo talked about it last year with Cassius. K talked about it last year with his all frosh team. I will take the word of those two over you.
You still believe Markus took an elbow to the face against butler. In spite of video evidence showing otherwise. I'm not trying to change your mind.
I have watched that replay 20 times. 20 times I have seen Baddly drop his right arm and Markus's head recoil. I am willing to die on this hill. And I am willing to take Izzo and K's words over yours.
I would argue that it is a scoop myth that MU should never be affected by injuries and fatigue like other teams.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on January 31, 2020, 10:03:59 AM
This is something of a scoop myth. That young 20s get tired playing 2 games a week. Scoop always talk about dead legs at the end of the season.
But that's what it is. A myth. I played 28 games a year without the rehab and training staff these guys have. We never got "tired" at the end of the season.
These guys have plenty of rest. Better teams run 8 man rotations all the time. Quite a few lean heavy into 7.
Was that Esports?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 31, 2020, 10:31:48 AM
Was that Esports?
+1. Not to mention, the physical tolls of playing high school basketball vs. playing Big East basketball. Yeah, probably pretty comparable.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 31, 2020, 10:18:48 AM
Dex would be one of, if not the best on-ball defender they have on this year's team. That alone will get him minutes next year.
Questionable, because freshmen tend to foul.
Quote from: tower912 on January 31, 2020, 10:18:11 AM
It isn't a scoop myth. Izzo talked about it last year with Cassius. K talked about it last year with his all frosh team. I will take the word of those two over you.
I'll see your Izzo and K, and raise you one Bobby - ha!
Seriously, tower, I do believe a player's body can get worn out by the battles of a long season. I believe that happened to Markus last season, and probably to Joey as well. Maybe even to Sam, as he had dealt with the hip problem the previous year.
However, I believe Markus would have gotten fatigued at the end of the season even if he had averaged "only" 31.5 mpg rather than 33.6 mpg. It's a long season, he gets clobbered pretty much every time he drives, he had primary ballhander responsibilities as well as primary shooting, etc. I seriously doubt whether shaving 1-3 mpg off his total would have made him any less fatigued in, say, Game #29.
Either Sacar is an otherworldly stud who is in better condition than 99.9% of the players in college basketball, or the frequent long breaks Wednesday helped him get enough rest during the game to excel in the 2 OTs even though he had already played 40+ minutes.
Those TV timeouts last 3 minutes each, they are brought chairs to sit on and liquids to drink, they can recharge their batteries. I really don't think it's much of a factor in most games.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on January 31, 2020, 10:03:59 AM
This is something of a scoop myth. That young 20s get tired playing 2 games a week. Scoop always talk about dead legs at the end of the season.
But that's what it is. A myth. I played 28 games a year without the rehab and training staff these guys have. We never got "tired" at the end of the season.
These guys have plenty of rest. Better teams run 8 man rotations all the time. Quite a few lean heavy into 7.
Ok boomer.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 31, 2020, 10:18:48 AM
Dex would be one of, if not the best on-ball defender they have on this year's team. That alone will get him minutes next year.
I have not watched much of Dex. However, I do know the staff offered him after watching him be a thorn in Mannion's side. Honestly, if they also got Mane (who wants to be DPOY) and your projections are right, that level of defense is going to be a lot of fun to watch when combined with Brendan and Koby. Love the griminess on defense that wojo is cultivating.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 31, 2020, 11:11:49 AM
I have not watched much of Dex. However, I do know the staff offered him after watching him be a thorn in Mannion's side. Honestly, if they also got Mane (who wants to be DPOY) and your projections are right, that level of defense is going to be a lot of fun to watch when combined with Brendan and Koby. Love the griminess on defense that wojo is cultivating.
That's something people never would've said in 2016, 2017, 2018
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 31, 2020, 11:11:49 AM
I have not watched much of Dex. However, I do know the staff offered him after watching him be a thorn in Mannion's side. Honestly, if they also got Mane (who wants to be DPOY) and your projections are right, that level of defense is going to be a lot of fun to watch when combined with Brendan and Koby. Love the griminess on defense that wojo is cultivating.
Yep, Defense travels well.