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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: drbob on November 03, 2019, 11:05:27 PM

Title: Sports Illustrated
Post by: drbob on November 03, 2019, 11:05:27 PM
No love for the Golden Eagles or Markus in latest issue . Hope we can prove that wrong on both issues !!  GO WARRIORS!!
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: UWW2MU on November 04, 2019, 08:20:43 AM
Is there a context to this where they should have?   I don't think MU or Howard has been mentioned by SI very much in the last 6 months.   What made you post this today of all days?
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 04, 2019, 08:42:39 AM
Howard was their 3rd ranked player in the country.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2019, 08:45:53 AM
Wears Curry wen ya kneed 'im, hey?
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: leever on November 04, 2019, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2019, 08:45:53 AM
Wears Curry wen ya kneed 'im, hey?
Fantastic writer and friend to Marquette
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Benny B on November 04, 2019, 09:38:53 AM
No mention of Markus or the Golden Eagles in the Wall Street Journal this morning.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020 on November 04, 2019, 09:43:21 AM
https://marquettewire.org/4020973/news/breaking-car-catches-on-fire-near-16th-and-wisconsin/

...Good article, couple MU mentions.   Nothing on Howard though, hopefully he uses this as motivation to silence the haters.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Goose on November 04, 2019, 09:54:52 AM
4ever

Curry was the best and definitely a friend of the program.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: drbob on November 04, 2019, 10:27:08 AM
November 4 issue had 2019-20 preview.  Marquette not in their top 25. Also listed a top 5 list for player of the year. No Markus inclusion.  Big article on Texas Tech and Beard .
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: MU82 on November 04, 2019, 10:49:53 AM
The latest Poor Richard's Almanac also spurns MU hoops and Markus.

Ben Franklin has always hated us.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 04, 2019, 10:51:12 AM
SI is a shell of itself.  No matta
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: pbiflyer on November 04, 2019, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: MUunderpants on November 04, 2019, 09:43:21 AM
https://marquettewire.org/4020973/news/breaking-car-catches-on-fire-near-16th-and-wisconsin/

...Good article, couple MU mentions.   Nothing on Howard though, hopefully he uses this as motivation to silence the haters.

Sorry, I only read outstanding or excellent articles.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 04, 2019, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: pbiflyer on November 04, 2019, 11:08:06 AM
Sorry, I only read outstanding or excellent articles.

Cliff's Notes Version:  MU is just a toxic, car fire...the bench is soft and just spontaneously decides to have snowball fights in the midst of the adversity.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2019, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Goose on November 04, 2019, 09:54:52 AM
4ever

Curry was the best and definitely a friend of the program.



Even Nads would have to agree. Curry Kirkpatrick was a sportswriter's sportswriter. Describing #14 as having a Cheshire Cat's smile was so spot on, hey?
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: The Sultan on November 04, 2019, 11:44:22 AM
I used to try to get to the mailbox before my brother did every Thursday so I could read the SI cover-to-cover before he did.  God forbid it was delayed and came on Friday.  Or the dreaded double-issue weeks.

It hasn't been like that in a long time.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Goose on November 04, 2019, 12:07:29 PM
4ever

He was a sportswriter's sportswriter. Was a big fan and rest of SI staff back in the day.

Fluffy
I miss the days of waiting by the mailbox for SI. Read it cover to cover as well. The simple things in life!
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: MU82 on November 04, 2019, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2019, 11:40:10 AM


Even Nads would have to agree. Curry Kirkpatrick was a sportswriter's sportswriter. Describing #14 as having a Cheshire Cat's smile was so spot on, hey?

Yes, he was one of several sportswriters I used to love reading.

Sad to see what has become of SI. Like Goose and others, I used to eagerly await my issue every week. Had that Butch Lee cover on my wall, first in my house and then in my dorm!
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Jay Bee on November 04, 2019, 12:37:10 PM
Kathy Ireland, hey hey
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 04, 2019, 12:39:15 PM
No mention of Marquette in the Chicago Tribune either. I will go down to their office on the mezzanine floor and be sure to voice my displeasure while holding a life-size cutout of Markus.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2019, 01:05:17 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 04, 2019, 12:17:14 PM
Yes, he was one of several sportswriters I used to love reading.

Sad to see what has become of SI. Like Goose and others, I used to eagerly await my issue every week. Had that Butch Lee cover on my wall, first in my house and then in my dorm!


Wee have somethin' in common. Eye have dat framed cover of #15 vs UNC hangin' in my office, hey?
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: MU82 on November 04, 2019, 01:17:29 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2019, 01:05:17 PM

Wee have somethin' in common. Eye have dat framed cover of #15 vs UNC hangin' in my office, hey?

Man, I lost that cover, and other similar stuff, in one of our many moves. For some reason, the only one I could find after moving here was of Bob Griese when the Dolphins completed their 17-0 season.

Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 04, 2019, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 04, 2019, 01:17:29 PM
Man, I lost that cover, and other similar stuff, in one of our many moves. For some reason, the only one I could find after moving here was of Bob Griese when the Dolphins completed their 17-0 season.

I had a friend find a bunch of SI's from 87-91.  Took them off his hand and just glancing through them, you realize the great work they used to do and all the great journalists that went through that place
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: MU82 on November 04, 2019, 02:40:34 PM
Magazines, in general, have struggled for years.

Sports Illustrated employed a staff of high-paid photographers and writers and sent them all over the world to cover things. It was a very high-cost operation. As advertising dollars gradually diminished, it became more and more difficult for SI to do what made them special.

As one who wanted to get into that business in part because of all the great things I read in SI as a kid, it's sad to see a once-great publication become less than mediocre.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: warriorchick on November 04, 2019, 06:43:23 PM
The latest edition of Martha Stewart Living also fails to give MU any love.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: The Sultan on November 04, 2019, 06:44:55 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 04, 2019, 06:43:23 PM
The latest edition of Martha Stewart Living also fails to give MU any love.


O Magazine has us preseason top 20 however.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Loose Cannon on November 04, 2019, 07:14:40 PM


Horse & Hounds doesn't mention us either.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: brewcity77 on November 04, 2019, 10:10:26 PM
Quote from: Loose Cannon on November 04, 2019, 07:14:40 PM

Horse & Hounds doesn't mention us either.

No, but they're big on Loyola-Maryland, Georgetown, & Butler.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Loose Cannon on November 04, 2019, 11:37:56 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 04, 2019, 10:10:26 PM
No, but they're big on Loyola-Maryland, Georgetown, & Butler.

Guess we have to make a Positive splash tonight.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: warriorjoe on November 05, 2019, 08:20:48 AM
All the great SI writers are gone. Curry Kirkpatrick, Frank Deford, Dan Jenkins, Jack McCallum, Ron Fimrite, William Nack, Roy Blount, Robert Creamer and George Plimpton.

Its preview issues were always comprehensive, well-researched and well-written. No more.
It seems that the once great writing is now reduced to factoids and tid bits.

When my SI did not arrive on Thursdays, I was always disappointed. I couldn't wait to see what was on the cover each week.

I was a continuous subscriber from 1969-77. And then from 1980 through the 2010s. No more, though.

Toward the end of my subscriptions, I did enjoy the "Where Are They Now" double issues to learn what happened to so many of the great athletes and personalities who had appeared in the magazine.

A once must-have magazine is now on the trash heap of magazines.

How sad.

Go Warriors!
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: warriorchick on November 05, 2019, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: warriorjoe on November 05, 2019, 08:20:48 AM
All the great SI writers are gone. Curry Kirkpatrick, Frank Deford, Dan Jenkins, Jack McCallum, Ron Fimrite, William Nack, Roy Blount, Robert Creamer and George Plimpton.




How could you forget MU alum Steve Rushin?

BTW he has a memoir out now that includes his adventures at Marquette.

https://www.amazon.com/Nights-White-Castle-Steve-Rushin/dp/0316419435/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=steve+rushin&qid=1572980143&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1pRNlo0WVpLV1EyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjI0NzI4M09MTlM3UE0yVjAySSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzUyODYzMTI0TFkxOERSNlVIVyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: warriorjoe on November 05, 2019, 04:51:23 PM
Warrior Chick: Thank you for the reminder about Steve Rushin. He was arguably the best columnist I ever read in SI. I always thought he was better than Rick Reilly or Rick Telander.

I usually turned to the back of the magazine first to read his columns every week when I knew his piece was there.

Steve is one of the best wordsmiths in the business and can turn a phrase better than most writers.
His pieces always featured information that I had long forgotten, and his research was excellent.

Steve's columns always left me smiling, and it was always great to see a Marquette alum doing well.

Another writer that I did not list and he remains my favorite to this day is Gary Smith. His long-form features were the best SI had since the days of the late Frank Deford.

And speaking of Deford, he wrote the piece I ever read on Al McGuire. It was entitled, "Welcome to My World," and it appeared in the Nov. 29, 1976, issue of SI. The piece was excerpted from Deford's original piece "Depression Baby," which appeared in his book "The World's Tallest Midget."

The SI piece is well worth reading for MU fans.

Enjoy the game tonight, Chick.

Go Warriors!

Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: Jockey on November 05, 2019, 05:37:04 PM
Quote from: warriorjoe on November 05, 2019, 04:51:23 PM
Warrior Chick: Thank you for the reminder about Steve Rushin. He was arguably the best columnist I ever read in SI. I always thought he was better than Rick Reilly or Rick Telander.



Wonder if 82 had any experiences with Telander when he was in Chicago. As a young writer, I thought Rick was outstanding. Somewhere along the way, though, he lost his mojo.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: lawdog77 on November 05, 2019, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: Jockey on November 05, 2019, 05:37:04 PM
Wonder if 82 had any experiences with Telander when he was in Chicago. As a young writer, I thought Rick was outstanding. Somewhere along the way, though, he lost his mojo.
I liked the "sportswriters on TV" way back when in Chicago.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: MU82 on November 05, 2019, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: Jockey on November 05, 2019, 05:37:04 PM
Wonder if 82 had any experiences with Telander when he was in Chicago. As a young writer, I thought Rick was outstanding. Somewhere along the way, though, he lost his mojo.

I got to know Rick very well after he went to the Sun-Times. A very nice guy who had been an outstanding writer at SI and in his books, but yes, as we sometimes say, "He lost his fastball."

My favorite personal Telander memory was the time he and Mariotti got into a huge argument in the Wrigley press box. It was about to escalate into a real brawl but Telander got a crazed look on his face and Mariotti turned tail like a 5-year-old. I hated Mariotti, probably the biggest d-bag in the history of sportswriting, so I loved it.

As for other recent posts in the SI discussion ...

Gary Smith is the best sportswriter I have ever read on a consistent basis. An amazing story-teller who could make readers care deeply about the subject. I grew up idolizing Red Smith, but Gary Smith became the one must-read for me whenever he had SI pieces.

Steve Rushin did a great job for many years at SI, first as a reporter, then one of their top writers, then the back-page guy. He's a really nice person, and let me tell you, he LOVES Marquette. chickadee posted his memoir, and the MU stuff in there is fantastic.
Title: Re: Sports Illustrated
Post by: MUEng92 on November 05, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
I think I recommended it previously, but I really enjoy Steve Rushin's podcast with his wife Rebecca Lobo.  There is a higher likelihood of liking it if you are or have been parents of teenagers and a fan of basketball (that one's covered here).  It's called Ball and Chain

Not infrequent mentions of Marquette doesn't hurt either.
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