My wife and I are moving to the Milwaukee area and was curious if anyone could shed some light on the different suburbs. She'll be working around 41/Good Hope road but really, quality of life is more important than commute time. We need a pretty liberal and progressive community and we've heard Whitefish Bay and Shorewood. We have a 6th grader and a 9th grader who are coming from a great school and a great school is important....
Thanks!
Check out Brown Deer. Wuz good' nough four Steve Novak, aina?
Quote from: iammartino on October 12, 2019, 04:54:46 PM
My wife and I are moving to the Milwaukee area and was curious if anyone could shed some light on the different suburbs. She'll be working around 41/Good Hope road but really, quality of life is more important than commute time. We need a pretty liberal and progressive community and we've heard Whitefish Bay and Shorewood. We have a 6th grader and a 9th grader who are coming from a great school and a great school is important....
Thanks!
Wauwatosa would fit the bill and be closer to your wife's workplace.
My wife and I moved to Whitefish Bay about 5 years ago before our first was born. I'd never lived outside of an actual city before and was really resistant to it. However, we've both really loved the community and have been reluctant to leave. Politics-wise you'll get about a 50/50 split (It is a nice, small community with pretty diverse household incomes but the low end would conservatively be called middle class). Housing prices are insane right now but that seems to be the case everywhere.
Shorewood is similar but skews a little less conservative. Housing is similar priced. There are a ton of duplexes in Shorewood so renting may be an option if you are thinking this is a temporary relocation.
In my opinion, both are great places. Both are about a 15-20 minute drive along the lake to downtown MKE. Schools are good to great in both. Shorewood is more walkable and has better restaurants and bars (although both are limited in choices).
If you want more info, let me know. I'm happy to provide more info to the extent I can.
You got the right guy here .. I've lived in WFB for 20+ years, but used to live in Shorewood, so I can comment extensively and would be happy to chat on the phone, too.
Shorewood is uber liberal, perhaps more than Madison. Think 80/20. It has an interesting mix of economic and racial identities, and a decent size Russian population too. My wife taught in both Shorewood and WFB school districts .. Shorewood has a healthy mix, although that comes with some extra challenges in each classroom. Lots of duplexes and college students and academic folks. Solid downtown and lots of restaurants and shops.
Shorewood's school district is excellent .. top ~10 in the state. WFB's is often listed as #1, and WFB's high school will rank nationally as a top school. Both are great choices.
Shorewood is the more .. urban of the villages .. WFB is more of the classic neighborhood community.
WFB's mix is less diverse, 90% white. Less income diversity, but some. WFB doesn't have as vibrant a downtown as Shorewood .. but I think it has a deeper "community." WFB used to be 60/40 Republican, now it's flipped 40/60 and dropping, mostly due to the high education population.
If you chose "south Whitefish Bay" or "north Shorewood" there wouldn't be a lot of difference between the two, besides the school districts.
Different strokes .. can't go wrong with either. Shorewood skews younger, hipper, grungier. WFB is older, more established, safer.
Not exactly sure what "41/Good Hope" is .. WFB would be about 6 minutes closer to that, though. -- WFB is farther to the Bradley Center, though, but I can leave my house and be parking in about 9 minutes, so not bad.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2019, 05:12:36 PM
Check out Brown Deer. Wuz good' nough four Steve Novak, aina?
Don't listen to 4ever.
Novak lives in WFB and his kids go to our school. Wojo's wife has been rumored to want to move here as well.
Wades would agree with me.
Fox point is alright. It would be about a 15 minute drive down good hope rd to get there. Plenty of liberals there, yet some closet conservatives who don't tell you their political views.
I'm selling/renting my house in Fox Point if interested. Schools are great, safe area, pretty uneventful, and 15 mins away from downtown.
I prefer the Quan (Mequon) more if you didn't mind a little further drive. Ozaukee county taxes, great schools, less crime, great area.
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on October 12, 2019, 05:29:07 PM
Wades would agree with me.
Fox point is alright. It would be about a 15 minute drive down good hope rd to get there. Plenty of liberals there, yet some closet conservatives who don't tell you their political views.
I'm selling/renting my house in Fox Point if interested. Schools are great, safe area, pretty uneventful, and 15 mins away from downtown.
I prefer the Quan (Mequon) more if you didn't mind a little further drive. Ozaukee county taxes, great schools, less crime, great area.
Yeah butt, he wanted liberal. Dat's knot The Quon. Four da record, Novak grew up in Brown Deer, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2019, 05:52:36 PM
Yeah butt, he wanted liberal. Dat's knot The Quon. Four da record, Novak grew up in Brown Deer, hey?
Affirm Doc.
Not many lefties that I know of in the Quan.
Quote from: iammartino on October 12, 2019, 04:54:46 PM
My wife and I are moving to the Milwaukee area and was curious if anyone could shed some light on the different suburbs. She'll be working around 41/Good Hope road but really, quality of life is more important than commute time. We need a pretty liberal and progressive community and we've heard Whitefish Bay and Shorewood. We have a 6th grader and a 9th grader who are coming from a great school and a great school is important....
Thanks!
I'm curious why you "need that"...I've lived in conservative enclaves, liberal areas, etc....always felt like a bubble. Best experience has been living in a mixed area with diverse opinions, experiences in my view.
Totally agree with puff. Tosa fits the schools, politics, geography and close to everything. This might be a useful "tool" for any area you may be looking in to habitate. Especially with young 'ens
https://www.safewise.com/blog/confirm-safety-neighboorhood-online-tools/
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 12, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
You got the right guy here .. I've lived in WFB for 20+ years, but used to live in Shorewood, so I can comment extensively and would be happy to chat on the phone, too.
Shorewood is uber liberal, perhaps more than Madison. Think 80/20. It has an interesting mix of economic and racial identities, and a decent size Russian population too. My wife taught in both Shorewood and WFB school districts .. Shorewood has a healthy mix, although that comes with some extra challenges in each classroom. Lots of duplexes and college students and academic folks. Solid downtown and lots of restaurants and shops.
Shorewood's school district is excellent .. top ~10 in the state. WFB's is often listed as #1, and WFB's high school will rank nationally as a top school. Both are great choices.
Shorewood is the more .. urban of the villages .. WFB is more of the classic neighborhood community.
WFB's mix is less diverse, 90% white. Less income diversity, but some. WFB doesn't have as vibrant a downtown as Shorewood .. but I think it has a deeper "community." WFB used to be 60/40 Republican, now it's flipped 40/60 and dropping, mostly due to the high education population.
If you chose "south Whitefish Bay" or "north Shorewood" there wouldn't be a lot of difference between the two, besides the school districts.
Different strokes .. can't go wrong with either. Shorewood skews younger, hipper, grungier. WFB is older, more established, safer.
Not exactly sure what "41/Good Hope" is .. WFB would be about 6 minutes closer to that, though. -- WFB is farther to the Bradley Center, though, but I can leave my house and be parking in about 9 minutes, so not bad.
Don't listen to 4ever.
Novak lives in WFB and his kids go to our school. Wojo's wife has been rumored to want to move here as well.
Arby"s proximity mattas!
Quote from: iammartino on October 12, 2019, 04:54:46 PM
My wife and I are moving to the Milwaukee area and was curious if anyone could shed some light on the different suburbs. She'll be working around 41/Good Hope road but really, quality of life is more important than commute time. We need a pretty liberal and progressive community and we've heard Whitefish Bay and Shorewood. We have a 6th grader and a 9th grader who are coming from a great school and a great school is important....
Thanks!
As someone who just moved out of where you are....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D pray.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 12, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
Not exactly sure what "41/Good Hope
41/good hope is the ghetto.
Shorewood and wfb are dreams compared to what that area is
Quote from: iammartino on October 12, 2019, 04:54:46 PM
My wife and I are moving to the Milwaukee area and was curious if anyone could shed some light on the different suburbs. She'll be working around 41/Good Hope road but really, quality of life is more important than commute time. We need a pretty liberal and progressive community and we've heard Whitefish Bay and Shorewood. We have a 6th grader and a 9th grader who are coming from a great school and a great school is important....
Thanks!
You may want to use this NY Time tool. It's literally entitled Do You Live in a Bubble. Interesting stuff, but should be helpful to you. Search by zip code, it will guide you on where you want to be if what you state above is your desire. Good luck in your move.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html#11.80/43.047/-87.902/72965
Sherman park neighborhood used to be the gem of Milwaukee/ Wauwatosa
41/good hope...not very diverse. Maybe bout the time Jesse Anderson had his "little tussle".
Don't look into Elm Grove, you won't like it.
Check out dem streetz of MKE. lotsa liberals
PS - ban dis guy for a political post
Realistically I'll break it into sections
Outside of city but white: tosa, Brookfield, Elm Grove, New Berlin,.... Waukesha? Don't go to: Greenfield, Oak Creek, Cudahy, West allis
"diverse" riverwest (Pockets) uwm area, south of Locust but east of Center
"diverse but white" bayview and surrounding areas (st Francis) ect. 3rd ward, walkers point etc..
Source: riverwest 3 years and worked with areas schools for the last 5.
I'm looking for a neighborhood that has a nice mix of the "everyone should have an abortion" crowd and "AR 15's for every newborn" crowd mix nicely.
After all, that's how all people should be defined.
Sorry mods.
IN BEFORE THE LOCK
Thanks everyone. Back to lurking!
God bless America, aina?
Quote from: #UnleashCain on October 12, 2019, 08:09:39 PM
41/good hope is the ghetto.
Shorewood and wfb are dreams compared to what that area is
41st street and Good Hope is .. dicey. Highway 41 and Good Hope is more likely, that's the Park Place complex area, not terrible.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 12, 2019, 10:11:13 PM
41st street and Good Hope is .. dicey. Highway 41 and Good Hope is more likely, that's the Park Place complex area, not terrible.
I miss that Tumbleweeds out at Park Place.
Quote from: iammartino on October 12, 2019, 09:13:44 PM
Thanks everyone. Back to lurking!
Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has them and no one wants to hear them. That could be doubly applied to this board.
Good luck to your family whatever you decide. Both Shorewood and WFB are great places to live as are many other places in the metro MKE area. There are many great resources for additional info that could help guide your decision if needed. Sadly, this board doesn't seem to be one of them.
Cura personalis, gents. You make Marquette proud.
You should rent a place above Real Chili.
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 13, 2019, 06:46:47 AM
You should rent a place above Real Chili.
I'd gain 60 pounds in 4 weeks.
Quote from: MU7703 on October 13, 2019, 12:25:44 AM
There are many great resources for additional info that could help guide your decision if needed. Sadly, this board doesn't seem to be one of them.
Cura personalis, gents. You make Marquette proud.
That's false in this thread. There's a mixture of humor and Arby's here, but I think everyone is mostly well meaning.
WFB is not very far from an Arbys. I believe it is technically in Glendale, but right by Bayshore Mall. So it definitely checks that box.
ETA: The Glendale Pizza Hut did not honor the Marquette promotion of them scoring 90 or 100 points. So not everything in the area is seashells and balloons.
Just bought in Shorewood this summer and we love it. We looked in Bay as well, but just couldn't find the right spot.
Bay's schools are a little better and their HS athletics are far superior, if that's important to your kids.
Quote from: MU7703 on October 13, 2019, 12:25:44 AM
Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has them and no one wants to hear them. That could be doubly applied to this board.
Good luck to your family whatever you decide. Both Shorewood and WFB are great places to live as are many other places in the metro MKE area. There are many great resources for additional info that could help guide your decision if needed. Sadly, this board doesn't seem to be one of them.
Cura personalis, gents. You make Marquette proud.
I read some nice advice, a little tongue in cheek(no pun) stuff and then your angry post. I hope you don't think your stuff was "the high road" or that which makes MU proud. This post could have gone really south fast, but kudos to the scoop community for tryin to help a scoop brother out.
Curious, where you are moving from martino and hope you find something that fits you and your family's needs-welcome!
Simple solution:
1) Figure out what you want.
2) Figure out what you can afford.
3) Figure out what you need to be close to.
4) Assess what you can do without.
The rest will happen. When in doubt, call a real estate agent.
Big hint: Don't pick your neighbors based on your's or their politics. If your expected life in a home is 7 years, which is typical for the United States, it's very possible your neighbor will change, the politics of your community may change or, frankly, you may change. Key thing is where you will be happiest.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on October 13, 2019, 07:58:04 AM
I'd gain 60 pounds in 4 weeks.
You'd die of a heart attack within a year.
Or dysentery.
Quote from: dgies9156 on October 13, 2019, 03:41:49 PM
Simple solution:
1) Figure out what you want.
2) Figure out what you can afford.
3) Figure out what you need to be close to.
4) Assess what you can do without.
The rest will happen. When in doubt, call a real estate agent.
Big hint: Don't pick your neighbors based on your's or their politics. If your expected life in a home is 7 years, which is typical for the United States, it's very possible your neighbor will change, the politics of your community may change or, frankly, you may change. Key thing is where you will be happiest.
Strong advice +1
Quote from: dgies9156 on October 13, 2019, 03:43:18 PM
You'd die of a heart attack within a year.
Or dysentery.
Or, become a superior intellect and athlete
Dgies, no pun intended.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on October 12, 2019, 05:28:51 PM
You got the right guy here .. I've lived in WFB for 20+ years, but used to live in Shorewood, so I can comment extensively and would be happy to chat on the phone, too.
Shorewood is uber liberal, perhaps more than Madison. Think 80/20. It has an interesting mix of economic and racial identities, and a decent size Russian population too. My wife taught in both Shorewood and WFB school districts .. Shorewood has a healthy mix, although that comes with some extra challenges in each classroom. Lots of duplexes and college students and academic folks. Solid downtown and lots of restaurants and shops.
Shorewood's school district is excellent .. top ~10 in the state. WFB's is often listed as #1, and WFB's high school will rank nationally as a top school. Both are great choices.
Shorewood is the more .. urban of the villages .. WFB is more of the classic neighborhood community.
WFB's mix is less diverse, 90% white. Less income diversity, but some. WFB doesn't have as vibrant a downtown as Shorewood .. but I think it has a deeper "community." WFB used to be 60/40 Republican, now it's flipped 40/60 and dropping, mostly due to the high education population.
If you chose "south Whitefish Bay" or "north Shorewood" there wouldn't be a lot of difference between the two, besides the school districts.
Different strokes .. can't go wrong with either. Shorewood skews younger, hipper, grungier. WFB is older, more established, safer.
Not exactly sure what "41/Good Hope" is .. WFB would be about 6 minutes closer to that, though. -- WFB is farther to the Bradley Center, though, but I can leave my house and be parking in about 9 minutes, so not bad.
Don't listen to 4ever.
Novak lives in WFB and his kids go to our school. Wojo's wife has been rumored to want to move here as well.
Come on man, that just isn't true. ;D
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 12, 2019, 08:40:13 PM
I'm looking for a neighborhood that has a nice mix of the "everyone should have an abortion" crowd and "AR 15's for every newborn" crowd mix nicely.
After all, that's how all people should be defined.
Sorry mods.
IN BEFORE THE LOCK
Lol, right? Honestly, how is this thread not Chicobait?
Well played, OP.
Quote from: iammartino on October 12, 2019, 04:54:46 PM
My wife and I are moving to the Milwaukee area and was curious if anyone could shed some light on the different suburbs. She'll be working around 41/Good Hope road but really, quality of life is more important than commute time. We need a pretty liberal and progressive community and we've heard Whitefish Bay and Shorewood. We have a 6th grader and a 9th grader who are coming from a great school and a great school is important....
Thanks!
WFB, Shorewood and Wauwatosa are the places you are probably going to like. Check em out.
Quote from: LAMUfan on October 17, 2019, 04:24:57 PM
WFB, Shorewood and Wauwatosa are the places you are probably going to like. Check em out.
I've been in the Wauwatosa area since 1989 and love it there. Great mix of all kinds of political views, lots of MU grads, good schools, centrally located in the metro area, some cool dining and drinking spots, nice parks, and the weather is 7-10 degrees warmer than in Shorewood and Whitefish Bay in the Spring and early summer due to the Lake Effect.
And check out Marquette High if you have any boys. One of the best, if not THE best, high schools in the state.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on October 17, 2019, 04:35:47 PM
I've been in the Wauwatosa area since 1989 and love it there. Great mix of all kinds of political views, lots of MU grads, good schools, centrally located in the metro area, some cool dining and drinking spots, nice parks, and the weather is 7-10 degrees warmer than in Shorewood and Whitefish Bay in the Spring and early summer due to the Lake Effect.
And check out Marquette High if you have any boys. One of the best, if not THE best, high schools in the state.
If his wife is working up by 41 & Good Hope, Tosa sounds like the perfect spot for them. But I'd qualify it and say somewhere in the 90's or below. Once you get closer to Hwy 41 or further west, Tosa has a different feel. You lose the connection to downtown Tosa and the Village feel, and you're just in random suburban neighborhood and strip mall territory. Not that it's bad over there, it just doesn't sound like what they're looking for.
I'd agree, east of the parkway (at North Avenue, that's about 99th Street). Mid-Town Tosa or East Tosa are the places to be.