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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: JakeBarnes on October 01, 2019, 07:46:24 PM
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From the people who brought you photo shopping black heads into the stands:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/university-apologizes-for-touting-diverse-student-body-with-video-of-all-white-students-154657545.html (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/university-apologizes-for-touting-diverse-student-body-with-video-of-all-white-students-154657545.html)
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ahhhh, celebrating oktoberfest on theresienwiese, pass da veeenerschnitzel and prost der eyn'a?
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Several of Coach Gards recent recruits should feel right at home:
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Such a traditional homecoming.
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LOL. That was embarrassing.
UW is a very good school but I don't think anyone would describe Madison as a diverse or worldly town. Good place to raise a family. That's okay, they should own it.
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I'm usually not into twitter, but the shade in some of the response tweets is fantastic
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Superbar
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LOL. That was embarrassing.
UW is a very good school but I don't think anyone would describe Madison as a diverse or worldly town. Good place to raise a family. That's okay, they should own it.
A lot of race issues here in the Republic. And a lot of race issues at the land grant university.
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A lot of race issues here in the Republic. And a lot of race issues at the land grant university.
Do tell. :D
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such a cliché type of video. Every Uni seems to do that crap. just stop
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I’m sorry, but why TF is this not a Superbar thread. FFS, people. UW-Madison being the biggest closet racist institution in America has ZERO to do with MU Basketball.
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I’m sorry, but why TF is this not a Superbar thread. FFS, people. UW-Madison being the biggest closet racist institution in America has ZERO to do with MU Basketball.
Eeeeuuuuh Dubyah is racist??????
Does ND suck?
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I’m sorry, but why TF is this not a Superbar thread. FFS, people. UW-Madison being the biggest closet racist institution in America has ZERO to do with MU Basketball.
The subject can be debated, but it should be debated in the Superbar, I agree!
How does a thread about recruiting at our rival schools in basketball (which actually will affect our team and conference) get moved to the superbar but threads like this are ok? Who cares about controversies (or non-controversies) at UW-Madison extension??
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Marquette has really done a laudable job with its diversity efforts, with around 25% of its enrollment being students of color. That compares to Madison's 16%. That's quite an accomplishment for a private university. Milwaukee's is about 33%.
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Marquette has really done a laudable job with its diversity efforts, with around 25% of its enrollment being students of color. That compares to Madison's 16%. That's quite an accomplishment for a private university. Milwaukee's is about 33%.
And MU matches the total US population. However, it’s 45% for college students today (as we discussed before). There is a long way to go to show how big the gap is. A Polar Bear Winter to go for Bucky, though.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Nearly-Half-of-Undergraduates/245692
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Marquette has really done a laudable job with its diversity efforts, with around 25% of its enrollment being students of color. That compares to Madison's 16%. That's quite an accomplishment for a private university. Milwaukee's is about 33%.
MU sole criteria should be quality and then let everything play out from there . Don’t worry about the percentages .
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MU sole criteria should be quality and then let everything play out from there . Don’t worry about the percentages .
1. Interesting that you would assume that there is a quality difference.
2. Employers want students who have come from diverse situations. So a diverse campus helps everyone. Marquette is in a good place in this regard because of its strong pre-professional programs combined with its liberal arts requirement is also something employers seek.
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1. Interesting that you would assume that there is a quality difference.
2. Employers want students who have come from diverse situations. So a diverse campus helps everyone. Marquette is in a good place in this regard because of its strong pre-professional programs combined with its liberal arts requirement is also something employers seek.
+1 million
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Let's not start patting ourselves on the back until we've reached 100% diversity.
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Its pretty incredible that this story is coming from a national outlet like Yahoo news and not the Journal Sentinel or the Wisconsin State Journal. Great job local media!
Then again I'm sure UW can threaten access to keep those outlets in the University's pocket.
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I believe the story was orginally reported by a local television station.
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So I guess this means that Harvard will have to become more white to regain its title of the Wisconsin of the east.
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Let's not start patting ourselves on the back until we've reached 100% diversity.
I never heard that term before. What's 100% diversity? Do you need an eskimo, a pygmy and an aborigine or do you need one of each sex and/or gender identity?
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1. Interesting that you would assume that there is a quality difference.
2. Employers want students who have come from diverse situations. So a diverse campus helps everyone. Marquette is in a good place in this regard because of its strong pre-professional programs combined with its liberal arts requirement is also something employers seek.
Employers want quality. The Diversity racket is trying to make everyone think otherwise.
I personally rejected diversity argument from the beginning and it served me very well.
I never wanted to be known as affirmative action or hear qualifiers before any achievement I had.
There are some parts of the comments in that article that I am understanding of. In particular the ones that expressed not being made felt welcome. I guess I had a thicker skin and just let those micro aggressions , as they are called today, slide past . Kids today need to be stronger.
My advice to youth today is ignore the diversity racket as it just keeps you down . Strive to be the best.
My personal idol is Ben Carson. Grew up in as bad of circumstance as possible and then became among the worlds best pediatric brain surgeons. So anything is possible if you do the work and focus on being the best.
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So anything is possible if you do the work and focus on being the best.
False.
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I never heard that term before. What's 100% diversity? Do you need an eskimo, a pygmy and an aborigine or do you need one of each sex and/or gender identity?
I took his quote to be similar to the old song about taxing the rich and feeding the poor til there are no rich no more. He don’t know what to do....so he leaving it up to you.
Yes, percentages can be a squirmy m.o., but Sultan/FBM’s comments on here are pretty spot on. MU should indeed be proud.
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False.
True. Don't let your personal pity party poo poo the facts.
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True. Don't let your personal pity party poo poo the facts.
False. The statement was "anything is possible." I can think of many things that are impossible for all people and even more things that are impossible for some people.
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Employers want quality. The Diversity racket is trying to make everyone think otherwise.
I personally rejected diversity argument from the beginning and it served me very well.
I never wanted to be known as affirmative action or hear qualifiers before any achievement I had.
There are some parts of the comments in that article that I am understanding of. In particular the ones that expressed not being made felt welcome. I guess I had a thicker skin and just let those micro aggressions , as they are called today, slide past . Kids today need to be stronger.
My advice to youth today is ignore the diversity racket as it just keeps you down . Strive to be the best.
My personal idol is Ben Carson. Grew up in as bad of circumstance as possible and then became the worlds best pediatric brain surgeon . So anything is possible if you do the work and focus on being the best.
Good post, Herm. Agree 100%. This is why I never judge basketball players in their skin color
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You guys should read Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers.
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Employers want quality. The Diversity racket is trying to make everyone think otherwise.
I've known multiple CEOs who think otherwise. I guess they are just in the pockets of the Big Diversity racket.
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You guys should read Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers.
Great book. Read it in High School. Should probably check it out again
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Employers want quality. The Diversity racket is trying to make everyone think otherwise.
I personally rejected diversity argument from the beginning and it served me very well.
I never wanted to be known as affirmative action or hear qualifiers before any achievement I had.
There are some parts of the comments in that article that I am understanding of. In particular the ones that expressed not being made felt welcome. I guess I had a thicker skin and just let those micro aggressions , as they are called today, slide past . Kids today need to be stronger.
My advice to youth today is ignore the diversity racket as it just keeps you down . Strive to be the best.
My personal idol is Ben Carson. Grew up in as bad of circumstance as possible and then became the worlds best pediatric brain surgeon . So anything is possible if you do the work and focus on being the best.
Source?
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You guys should read Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers.
Gladwell is one of my favorite authors. Outliers, Blink, and The Tipping Point are all excellent.
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Source?
It's a very very small group. My friend from high school might be the world's second-best.
Coincidentally, she also dipped her toe into the political arena.
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Gladwell is one of my favorite authors. Outliers, Blink, and The Tipping Point are all excellent.
His newest book may be his best. (Talking to Strangers)
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The Diversity racket
JFC
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True. Don't let your personal pity party poo poo the facts.
Definitely not true trust me
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His newest book may be his best. (Talking to Strangers)
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm currently reading Gun, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. TtS will be next on my list.
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It's a very very small group. My friend from high school might be the world's second-best.
Coincidentally, she also dipped her toe into the political arena.
Understandably, the number of pediatric neurosurgeons across the globe is a small number when compared to other specialties.
Just wanted to know where the "world's best" title came from.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'm currently reading Gun, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond. TtS will be next on my list.
This is one of the driest books I've ever read and one of the only books in my adult life I did not finish. So painful to read. I could only go a few pages before literally falling asleep. I was very disappointed because I find the subject matter very interesting and it seemed right up my alley.
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This is one of the driest books I've ever read and one of the only books in my adult life I did not finish. So painful to read. I could only go a few pages before literally falling asleep. I was very disappointed because I find the subject matter very interesting and it seemed right up my alley.
My experience is pretty similar. 5 pages at a time is about as far as I get. The first 30 pages were better but it's a struggle.
I'm about 100 pages in. We'll see if I finish it. I really enjoyed the first Diamond book I read, The Third Chimpanzee. Hopefully this book picks up soon.
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False. The statement was "anything is possible." I can think of many things that are impossible for all people and even more things that are impossible for some people.
possible:
Adjective-able to happen although not certain to; denoting a fact, event, or situation that may or may not occur or be so
noun-a person or thing that has the potential to become or do something
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possible:
Adjective-able to happen although not certain to; denoting a fact, event, or situation that may or may not occur or be so
noun-a person or thing that has the potential to become or do something
Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
Herman did not say anything was certain he said anything was possible in regards to Ben Carson's achievement.
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Herman did not say anything was certain he said anything was possible in regards to Ben Carson's achievement.
Yes but I am certain that many things are not possible.
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Yes but I am certain that many things are not possible.
Like ND not sucking.
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Like ND not sucking.
Exactly. No truer words have ever been spoken
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True. Don't let your personal pity party poo poo the facts.
It's false and you know it.
Personal pity party? I'm the happiest, luckiest person I know. You might want to try to find a woman who can stand you, have some kids who love you, etc.
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It's false and you know it.
Personal pity party? I'm the happiest, luckiest person I know. You might want to try to find a woman who can stand you, have some kids who love you, etc.
Mike, that was a sh1tty response.
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Mike, that was a sh1tty response.
Its a day that ends in Y. *shrug*
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Mike, that was a sh1tty response.
He beat me to it. I have thought the same many times.
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Mike, that was a sh1tty response.
But BJ saying I was having personal pity party, which had nothing to do with anything, was a non-sh1tty response? C'mon, chili.
Sure, I should be above BJ's attempts to bully everybody on Scoop, make everything personal. So I guess I apologize for not being above it.
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Understandably, the number of pediatric neurosurgeons across the globe is a small number when compared to other specialties.
Just wanted to know where the "world's best" title came from.
In deference and respect to your medical background , I am amended the post to say he was among the best .
Clearly a guy who can separate twins conjoined at the brain has real talent. I will let it to those who judge Surgeons to do the absolute ranking .
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Oh, God. I created one of those threads. People...we were just supposed to kick UW-Madison while they were down. Mock them openly. Have a nice laugh together and realize that what unites us is far bigger than what divides us. Specifically:
ND sucks
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False. The statement was "anything is possible." I can think of many things that are impossible for all people and even more things that are impossible for some people.
False. Miracles thanks to MU82’s Lord & Savior are always possible. #blessed
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False. Miracles thanks to MU82’s Lord & Savior are always possible. #blessed
A miracle would have nothing to do with working hard. So again it's false. If we all jump off a cliff despite straining vigorously to survive by jumping off smaller cliffs eventually we will die from a certain height or fall. If miraculously one of us lives that does not mean that hard work made it possible for everyone to survive.
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A miracle would have nothing to do with working hard. So again it's false. If we all jump off a cliff despite straining vigorously to survive by jumping off smaller cliffs eventually we will die from a certain height or fall. If miraculously one of us lives that does not mean that hard work made it possible for everyone to survive.
That's a gruesome (but accurate) way to go about it. My thought is always that no amount of divine intervention is going to turn me from a 5'11" non-athletic 42-year-old into the a All-NBA center, and no amount of hard work from the time I was born until the end of my days would make that possible.
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False. Miracles thanks to MU82’s Lord & Savior are always possible. #blessed
Nice. Touching on all the greatest sh!ts.
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Didn't want to post this in a new thread. UW Madison single game tickets go on sale today. Three games are already sold out: Michigan State, Ohio State and "not a rival" Marquette. Also for ETR and all of the other twitter users, you can't buy tickets from UW either for the Marquette game, just like you can't get tickets to the game in Milwaukee.
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Back on topic...
I recently stopped for lunch on State Street on a weekday. I got back in my car and called my wife and said Madison is definitely not a part of the state of Wisconsin. Walking a block on State Street felt more like NYC than Milwaukee, even Chicago. It was extremely "diverse". Though I would say it felt much more global than anything.
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The Lens
I agree completely. Several times a year I will stop for lunch or dinner at State Street Brats and am always amazed by the feel of Madison. A couple of years ago my wife and went for a weekend and stayed at the new(er) Marriott property and felt like we were 1000 miles from home.
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Lens, Goose... what the heck??
Can't people be banned for saying anything positive about Madison? I don't get this site at all!
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Back on topic...
I recently stopped for lunch on State Street on a weekday. I got back in my car and called my wife and said Madison is definitely not a part of the state of Wisconsin. Walking a block on State Street felt more like NYC than Milwaukee, even Chicago. It was extremely "diverse". Though I would say it felt much more global than anything.
The State Street of today is nothing like it was even 20 years ago.
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Back on topic...
I recently stopped for lunch on State Street on a weekday. I got back in my car and called my wife and said Madison is definitely not a part of the state of Wisconsin. Walking a block on State Street felt more like NYC than Milwaukee, even Chicago. It was extremely "diverse". Though I would say it felt much more global than anything.
If by worldly, you mean open air drug use, aggressive panhandling, fighting, public urination/defecation, & prostitution, then yes, State St does have a worldly feeling compared to the rest of white Madison.
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Back on topic...
I recently stopped for lunch on State Street on a weekday. I got back in my car and called my wife and said Madison is definitely not a part of the state of Wisconsin. Walking a block on State Street felt more like NYC than Milwaukee, even Chicago. It was extremely "diverse". Though I would say it felt much more global than anything.
State Street felt more global and international than Chicago? LMAO. Maybe a neighborhood on the Northwest side or a suburb. But not compared to any street in the heart of Chicago.
This feels like my friends who try to tell me Columbus is a thriving center of diversity and cosmopolitan global vibes because OSU is there. Columbus is one of the most middle America homogeneous cities Ive ever been to outside of some University faculty and a portion of the student body. Thats not saying Madison or Columbus are crappy places or not great places to raise a family, but people try to act like they are more in line with London or LA or even Miami in terms of diversity, when they are certainly not. UW is nearly 70% Caucasian by their own published metrics. Same with Ohio State.
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This thread is somehow worse than that UW video.
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Back on great books..
12 rules for life an antidote to chaos.
- Jordan b Peterson.
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Back on great books..
12 rules for life an antidote to chaos.
- Jordan b Peterson.
Read the first chapter.
It was a clownshow of bad science and I couldn't go on.
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Read the first chapter.
It was a clownshow of bad science and I couldn't go on.
I’m sorry to hear that. According to Goodbooks it’s rated 4/5 stars with over 60,000 reviews
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State Street felt more global and international than Chicago? LMAO. Maybe a neighborhood on the Northwest side or a suburb. But not compared to any street in the heart of Chicago.
This feels like my friends who try to tell me Columbus is a thriving center of diversity and cosmopolitan global vibes because OSU is there. Columbus is one of the most middle America homogeneous cities Ive ever been to outside of some University faculty and a portion of the student body. Thats not saying Madison or Columbus are crappy places or not great places to raise a family, but people try to act like they are more in line with London or LA or even Miami in terms of diversity, when they are certainly not. UW is nearly 70% Caucasian by their own published metrics. Same with Ohio State.
70% non-diverse is just embarassing at this point. Madison should be ashamed of itself.
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I’m sorry to hear that. According to Goodbooks it’s rated 4/5 stars with over 60,000 reviews
Don't know anything about the book and know next to nothing about him, but lots of niche books (or niche anything) will have great ratings because people who aren't into it won't bother to read it, leaving just the fans.
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I’m sorry to hear that. According to Goodbooks it’s rated 4/5 stars with over 60,000 reviews
I get that people like it, and I get why people like it. If that's someone's thing, go for it.
And perhaps had I read on, I might have enjoyed it myself.
I just couldn''t get past his effort to distill the incredibly complex humane psyche in to that of a crustacean.