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Title: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: warriorchick on April 26, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
Looks like it's actually the Navies.

Interesting Infographic:

https://twitter.com/MarquetteUnis

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5AeUroWkAAwUNr.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 26, 2019, 08:23:45 AM
Probably should have gone with the baby blues against Murray State....
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: 🏀 on April 26, 2019, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 26, 2019, 08:23:45 AM
Probably should have gone with the baby blues against Murray State....

That Joey poster would have looked a lot better
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: LoudMouth on April 26, 2019, 04:58:47 PM
Quote from: PTM on April 26, 2019, 04:31:45 PM
That Joey poster would have looked a lot better

Who?
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on April 27, 2019, 12:52:40 AM
Yeah maybe, but they look great...
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Warrior Code on April 27, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
I don't know why people hate on the baby/championship/valor blues. I thought they looked great when they were first brought back:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ltTGHKZWcSA/R8xVlvgo4WI/AAAAAAAAADc/-bywKJDoSd0/s320/marquette.jpg)


I thought they looked good with the redesign:

(https://www.ncaajersey.store/images/marquette-golden-eagles/male-marquette-golden-eagles-light-blue-33-performance-basketball-jersey.jpg)


and I thought they looked even better this year, with the addition of the subtle yellow stripes:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/7z32fPYhXiNHfpVVY-vBRsJd_j4=/0x0:3476x2317/1200x800/filters:focal(1460x881:2016x1437)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63233374/usa_today_12218361.0.jpg)


They're a unique look compared to the navy or white, which a lot of other schools already use.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 27, 2019, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: Warrior Code on April 27, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
I don't know why people hate on the baby/championship/valor blues. I thought they looked great when they were first brought back:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ltTGHKZWcSA/R8xVlvgo4WI/AAAAAAAAADc/-bywKJDoSd0/s320/marquette.jpg)


I thought they looked good with the redesign:

(https://www.ncaajersey.store/images/marquette-golden-eagles/male-marquette-golden-eagles-light-blue-33-performance-basketball-jersey.jpg)


and I thought they looked even better this year, with the addition of the subtle yellow stripes:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/7z32fPYhXiNHfpVVY-vBRsJd_j4=/0x0:3476x2317/1200x800/filters:focal(1460x881:2016x1437)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63233374/usa_today_12218361.0.jpg)


They're a unique look compared to the navy or white, which a lot of other schools already use.

I love em. Agree about the stripes though arent they white? Either way I'd snag a striped one in a heartbeat if they're on sale.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Warrior Code on April 27, 2019, 11:14:04 AM
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 27, 2019, 11:12:03 AM
I love em. Agree about the stripes though arent they white? Either way I'd snag a striped one in a heartbeat if they're on sale.

I thought they looked yellow on tv but now that you say that, I think they are white. Either way, a good look.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: mu_hilltopper on April 28, 2019, 08:07:28 AM
I think the first times baby blues were worn, people didn't like them, but eventually they've been accepted.

IIRC, in years past at least, one player gets to choose each game's color.  I'm surprised they picked white so often, it's the blandest of the bunch.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: warriorchick on April 28, 2019, 08:12:15 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 28, 2019, 08:07:28 AM
I think the first times baby blues were worn, people didn't like them, but eventually they've been accepted.

IIRC, in years past at least, one player gets to choose each game's color.  I'm surprised they picked white so often, it's the blandest of the bunch.

I agree.  It looks like underwear.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 28, 2019, 12:48:07 PM
The golds have long been my favorites, but this year's striped baby blues were nice.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: real chili 83 on April 28, 2019, 01:58:53 PM
ND sucks
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 28, 2019, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on April 28, 2019, 01:58:53 PM
ND sucks


You got this.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Warrior Code on April 28, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 28, 2019, 12:48:07 PM
The golds have long been my favorites, but this year's striped baby blues were nice.

I also like the gold. I wouldn't mind seeing them go gold/light blue as the predominant colors with the white and navy becoming the "alternates." Navy and white are way more common as uniform colors, and plus I enjoy a good color-on-color matchup -- the way USC and UCLA do in football every year.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Johnny B on April 28, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
The whites are just hideous. A white uniform with black text on it. No interesting design at all. So bland and boring. Not to mention the uniform looks like a track uni. Idk why they wore it so much
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: MUMonster03 on April 29, 2019, 08:12:53 AM
Quote from: Warrior Code on April 27, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
I don't know why people hate on the baby/championship/valor blues. I thought they looked great when they were first brought back:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ltTGHKZWcSA/R8xVlvgo4WI/AAAAAAAAADc/-bywKJDoSd0/s320/marquette.jpg)


I thought they looked good with the redesign:

(https://www.ncaajersey.store/images/marquette-golden-eagles/male-marquette-golden-eagles-light-blue-33-performance-basketball-jersey.jpg)


and I thought they looked even better this year, with the addition of the subtle yellow stripes:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/7z32fPYhXiNHfpVVY-vBRsJd_j4=/0x0:3476x2317/1200x800/filters:focal(1460x881:2016x1437)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63233374/usa_today_12218361.0.jpg)


They're a unique look compared to the navy or white, which a lot of other schools already use.

It almost looks yellow on the sides of the jerseys, but white on the shorts.

Funny thing about the first Valor Blue picture, that was the one they sold at the Spirit Shop but the one on the court always had block "Marquette" letters across the front. Will have to try and find a picture.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Coleman on April 29, 2019, 08:39:15 AM
One year is a small sample size. Would be curious to see this going back 10+ years.

Also it is skewed because the Navy is the only jersey they solely wore on the road.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: MUMonster03 on April 29, 2019, 08:44:29 AM
(http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/marq-10-lightblue-675x380.jpg)

Found it, was always strange that the other three had the rounded Marquette.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Warrior Code on April 29, 2019, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 29, 2019, 08:44:29 AM
(http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/marq-10-lightblue-675x380.jpg)

Found it, was always strange that the other three had the rounded Marquette.

You're right, good catch. I actually like this one better.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 29, 2019, 09:46:46 AM
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 29, 2019, 08:44:29 AM
(http://uniformcritics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/marq-10-lightblue-675x380.jpg)

Found it, was always strange that the other three had the rounded Marquette.

Were these introduced for the 40th anniversary in 2007? Thus, the straight "Marquette" like the tuck outs? DB was after that but they stuck around for a bit. Although the women have the rounded baby blue design.

For the 100th uniforms they moved Marquette to below the number like the tuck outs.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: MUMonster03 on April 29, 2019, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 29, 2019, 09:46:46 AM
Were these introduced for the 40th anniversary in 2007? Thus, the straight "Marquette" like the tuck outs? DB was after that but they stuck around for a bit. Although the women have the rounded baby blue design.

For the 100th uniforms they moved Marquette to below the number like the tuck outs.

These were first introduced for the 07-08 season, along with the blue, white, and gold. And then slightly redesigned in 2011 with the elimination of the shoulder patch. I cannot find a single game photo of a baby blue with the curved logo from that time period 2007-16. Even though what you could buy had the curved logo.

I found another photo of Wesley in this design which would of had to of been 2007-08 or 08-09. Always been curious as to why one was different so if anyone has any info. If it was for any anniversary I don't remember them making a big deal out of it.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 29, 2019, 10:14:56 AM
Here is the women's jersey

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/3d1930f9fac4db2eca3dec3eb3751b7a6565a0ab/c=103-0-1715-1212/local/-/media/2018/03/06/WIGroup/Milwaukee/636559756767300701-GAN-180306-twg-gb9-037.jpg?width=540&height=405&fit=crop)
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: frozena pizza on April 29, 2019, 11:43:13 AM
Why didn't we wear the grey unis this year?  I kind of like those.  All time worst was the pink ones we had for a Villanova game a few years ago.

This would be a lot more meaningful if you had a larger sample size and looked at the score variation against the KenPom projected outcome.  Just looking at wins and losses doesn't say much.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 29, 2019, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 29, 2019, 08:12:53 AM
It almost looks yellow on the sides of the jerseys, but white on the shorts.

Funny thing about the first Valor Blue picture, that was the one they sold at the Spirit Shop but the one on the court always had block "Marquette" letters across the front. Will have to try and find a picture.

They sold the block letter baby blue when they switched to Jordan from converse.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: brewcity77 on April 29, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: frozena pizza on April 29, 2019, 11:43:13 AMThis would be a lot more meaningful if you had a larger sample size and looked at the score variation against the KenPom projected outcome.  Just looking at wins and losses doesn't say much.

I'm going to guess the laundry color has very little tangible impact on game outcomes or player production. It's only meaningful as a fan talking point.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: tower912 on April 29, 2019, 03:22:44 PM
I would wear a wicking polo in any of those themes.   
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Bocephys on April 29, 2019, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 29, 2019, 03:15:56 PM
I'm going to guess the laundry color has very little tangible impact on game outcomes or player production. It's only meaningful as a fan talking point.

We should start wearing IU shorts to truly gain an advantage: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404878 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404878)
QuoteHill and Barton (2005) showed that fighters in tae kwon do, boxing, and wrestling who wore red jerseys during the 2004 Olympic Games won more often than those wearing blue jerseys. Regarding these results, this study investigated the effects of jersey color during a combat situation on fighters' physical parameters of strength and heart rate. An artificial, experimental combat situation was created in which the color of sport attire was assigned randomly. Fourteen pairs of male athletes matched for weight, height, and age had to fight each other: once in a red jersey and once in a blue. Heart rate (before, during, and after the fight) and strength (before the fight) were tested wearing the blue and the red jerseys. Participants wearing red jerseys had significantly higher heart rates and significantly higher pre-contest values on the strength test. Results showed that participants' body functions are influenced by wearing red equipment.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: cheebs09 on April 29, 2019, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Bocephys on April 29, 2019, 04:25:23 PM
We should start wearing IU shorts to truly gain an advantage: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404878 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404878)

Must be why the Hausers are transferring.
Title: Re: Next on Mythbusters: The Baby Blue Uniforms are Bad Luck
Post by: Marcus92 on April 30, 2019, 12:28:21 PM
The proven advantage of red uniforms obviously explains all the national titles won by Coach K at Duke, John Wooden at UCLA, Jay Wright and Rollie Massimino at Nova, Roy Williams and Dean Smith at UNC, Jim Calhoun at UConn, Tom Izzo at MSU, John Calipari, Tubby Smith, Rick Pitino and Adolph Rupp at Kentucky...
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