Trajectory, at least some are buying into it
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-sporting-news-way-too-early-top-25-for-2019-20/1oplcsov8ioxf18ydgei068fyp
EDIT: Sorry, didn't see other thread.
It should a great year for Marquette. The key will be training and conditioning so the players have the endurance to finish the year.
Mark Miller is saying on the IWB board that Markus is gone. That'll certainly affect pre season rankings.
Quote from: The Lens on April 08, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
Mark Miller is saying on the IWB board that Markus is gone. That'll certainly affect pre season rankings.
Someone tell him our insiders had this weeks ago! And our insider's insider saw Markus and Stan slap boxing!
Let's see if he attends the banquet on Thursday night. Could be a big clue as to what he's thinking!
Quote from: NickelDimer on April 08, 2019, 10:13:46 PM
Someone tell him our insiders had this weeks ago! And our insider's insider saw Markus and Stan slap boxing!
lmao.
+1 on goldenboy being golden
Quote from: The Lens on April 08, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
Mark Miller is saying on the IWB board that Markus is gone. That'll certainly affect pre season rankings.
Declaring gone or hiring an agent gone? Cause one isn't news and the other would be surprising
I will not believe Markus is gone until VTScoop delivers the news.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2019, 11:10:15 PM
Declaring gone or hiring an agent gone? Cause one isn't news and the other would be surprising
Hiring an agent isn't even really news now is it? I expect him to hire an agent and then make a final decision in late May.
Mark said "likely not to return"
Quote from: AirPunch on April 08, 2019, 11:21:17 PM
Hiring an agent isn't even really news now is it? I expect him to hire an agent and then make a final decision in late May.
??? Once you hire an agent you've crossed the Rubicon.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2019, 11:26:20 PM
??? Once you hire an agent you've crossed the Rubicon.
Not anymore. They changed that rule this year.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2019, 11:26:20 PM
??? Once you hire an agent you've crossed the Rubicon.
Actually the new rules allow for a "certified" agent who has to be terminated if a guy goes back to school. Lots of limitations, though.
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 08, 2019, 11:28:42 PM
Actually the new rules allow for a "certified" agent who has to be terminated if a guy goes back to school. Lots of limitations, though.
Did not know that.
Quote from: Nukem2 on April 08, 2019, 11:28:42 PM
Actually the new rules allow for a "certified" agent who has to be terminated if a guy goes back to school. Lots of limitations, though.
Does it go into effect this year or next though? I've read different things.
Forget 7. ESPN has us at #2. So it will be the most Marquette thing ever for Markus to leave because being a Marquette fan feels like perpetual disappointment just when you think you might be on the verge of something amazing.
Quote from: Charley Farley on April 08, 2019, 11:33:00 PM
Forget 7. ESPN has us at #2. So it will be the most Marquette thing ever for Markus to leave because being a Marquette fan feels like perpetual disappointment just when you think you might be on the verge of something amazing.
#firewojo
Quote from: The Lens on April 08, 2019, 11:23:07 PM
Mark said "likely not to return"
So, does Markus go through the draft, and if he goes undrafted, then return for his Senior year? I think Legerald Vick did that last year.
Wojo could bring in Symir Torrence (reclassify and sign in spring) and still hold a scholarship for Markus, if he decides to return. There is enough room. I'd be ok with that, and if Markus doesn't comeback Wojo just rolls with 12 players next year; save the scholarship for 2020.
Quote from: Charley Farley on April 08, 2019, 11:33:00 PM
Forget 7. ESPN has us at #2. So it will be the most Marquette thing ever for Markus to leave because being a Marquette fan feels like perpetual disappointment just when you think you might be on the verge of something amazing.
Markus may leave but miller will probably get fired from Arizona so mannion will reopen his recruitment. Wojo will offer him the new forever green light and we land him and the teams talent level doesn't drop much as a result.
My favorite statement was by Reinhardt who, after the last humiliating loss to South Carolina in Greenville, never returned to Milwaukee to finish school.
Hell, he didn't even bother to come back to get his personal sh1t. If anyone thinks these kids are there to do anything but ball they are missing the point.
Quote from: Jon on April 09, 2019, 12:16:34 AM
My favorite statement was by Reinhardt who, after the last humiliating loss to South Carolina in Greenville, never returned to Milwaukee to finish school.
Hell, he didn't even bother to come back to get his personal sh1t. If anyone thinks these kids are there to do anything but ball they are missing the point.
Broad statement
Quote from: Jon on April 09, 2019, 12:16:34 AM
My favorite statement was by Reinhardt who, after the last humiliating loss to South Carolina in Greenville, never returned to Milwaukee to finish school.
Hell, he didn't even bother to come back to get his personal sh1t. If anyone thinks these kids are there to do anything but ball they are missing the point.
Noted philosopher Cardale Jones said it best:
[They] ain't came to play school
Quote from: Jon on April 09, 2019, 12:16:34 AM
My favorite statement was by Reinhardt who, after the last humiliating loss to South Carolina in Greenville, never returned to Milwaukee to finish school.
Hell, he didn't even bother to come back to get his personal sh1t. If anyone thinks these kids are there to do anything but ball they are missing the point.
Ignorant statement.
Just last week, Markus led a FellowshipOfChristianAthletes meeting on campus. Then, along with teammates, he helped raise a bunch of money for womens' Heart health through a campus sorority.
Anything to fit your narrative.
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Las Vegas oddsmakers feel slightly different about MU and BE success for next season than the "early" polls. Could be easy money for those that believe we are top seven team going into next season. In addition, Seton Hall, Creighton and Butler all are long, long shots.
Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on April 09, 2019, 12:33:47 AM
Ignorant statement.
Just last week, Markus led a FellowshipOfChristianAthletes meeting on campus. Then, along with teammates, he helped raise a bunch of money for womens' Heart health through a campus sorority.
Anything to fit your narrative.
But as MUpilot aka Jesse D reports to us here on Scoop, those are just fluff pieces to send out to the fan base so they can feel okay about our team flying comfortably on private planes to go get their asses kicked on the basketball court.
:o ::)
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 12:55:15 AM
Las Vegas oddsmakers feel slightly different about MU and BE success for next season than the "early" polls. Could be easy money for those that believe we are top seven team going into next season.
Jump on that. You're jacked up and all in on next season.
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 12:55:15 AM
Las Vegas oddsmakers feel slightly different about MU and BE success for next season than the "early" polls. Could be easy money for those that believe we are top seven team going into next season.
What is Vegas saying?
Quote from: The Lens on April 08, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
Mark Miller is saying on the IWB board that Markus is gone. That'll certainly affect pre season rankings.
This is all well and good, but where the hell does Markus think he is going? There are only two rounds in the NBA draft.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 09, 2019, 07:29:12 AM
This is all well and good, but where the hell does Markus think he is going? There are only two rounds in the NBA draft.
All it takes is one team to decide they want to take a shot on him.
That being said, I'd be surprised if he goes.
Also, I'm not sure on the agent rules. I keep getting different answers on if the rule changed and how it changed
From what I understand, players can declare & stay in through the draft and return provided they received a NBA Combine invite & go undrafted. As far as agents, the agents are allowed to pay for meals, travel, etc and the player can still return with eligibility as long as they disclose all such expenditures.
this was kind of a shocker-just hoping wojo doesn't blow it
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20
got MU at #2 ??
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 09, 2019, 07:44:22 AM
From what I understand, players can declare & stay in through the draft and return provided they received a NBA Combine invite & go undrafted. As far as agents, the agents are allowed to pay for meals, travel, etc and the player can still return with eligibility as long as they disclose all such expenditures.
I've seen that proposed, I've seen articles saying they are going to do it, I have yet to see it codified anywhere
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2019, 07:57:46 AM
this was kind of a shocker-just hoping wojo doesn't blow it
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20
got MU at #2 ??
National title game or bust, hey?
Seth Davis has us at 35
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2019, 07:57:46 AM
this was kind of a shocker-just hoping wojo doesn't blow it
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20
got MU at #2 ??
Well their BPI had us at 4 going in to this season, so I would take this with a grain of salt.
Ok, I do t really expect a national title, but the only MU thing I'm down on is our naysayers, who
1. Want to fire Wojo as he has built top 10 talent and according to TSN top 7 talent
2. Want to give up for losing to Ja - the likely no. 2 NBA pick, while UVA didn't give up after losing to a 16-seed
3. Suggest the team would be better if an All-American left, a guy picked as one of the top 10 players in America by many all American voters, or
4. Fret about losing him to the NBA after he drops off the mock draft (sure he could pull a Vander, anyone could. But 80% of the things you worry about don't happen so why stress)
5. Would have certainly fired bruce Pearl here in Auburn after his 44-54 three year record because they don't realiZe "forget the recruiting class and let him go" really means "forget the program" no that the old big East is gone and we don't have guaranteed success.
Other than the annoying naysayers, it's great to be an MU fan.
Quote from: auburnmarquette on April 09, 2019, 12:52:09 PM
Ok, I do t really expect a national title, but the only MU thing I'm down on is our naysayers, who
1. Want to fire Wojo as he has built top 10 talent and according to TSN top 7 talent
2. Want to give up for losing to Ja - the likely no. 2 NBA pick, while UVA didn't give up after losing to a 16-seed
3. Suggest the team would be better if an All-American left, a guy picked as one of the top 10 players in America by many all American voters, or
4. Fret about losing him to the NBA after he drops off the mock draft (sure he could pull a Vander, anyone could. But 80% of the things you worry about don't happen so why stress)
5. Would have certainly fired bruce Pearl here in Auburn after his 44-54 three year record because they don't realiZe "forget the recruiting class and let him go" really means "forget the program" no that the old big East is gone and we don't have guaranteed success.
Other than the annoying naysayers, it's great to be an MU fan.
I'm not a Wojo supporter. I'd be happy if he moved on, or if Marquette moved on from him. He's been here for five years, long enough for anyone to make any judgment they wish.
What's tiresome for me is the ardent Wojo supporters who'll tear down or ridicule anyone who doesn't like him. I'm a fan of Marquette basketball. I'm not a fan of Wojo. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I don't support the program, and it doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than those who don't share my beliefs.
Wojo needs to start sounding smarter in the timeout huddles they show on TV. How are we supposed to tell if he's a good coach or not?
research
Only say the company line and everything will be OK.
Or, adopt the Eeyore stance and be perpetually, mildly, sadly disappointed.
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
I'm not a Wojo supporter. I'd be happy if he moved on, or if Marquette moved on from him. He's been here for five years, long enough for anyone to make any judgment they wish.
What's tiresome for me is the ardent Wojo supporters who'll tear down or ridicule anyone who doesn't like him. I'm a fan of Marquette basketball. I'm not a fan of Wojo. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I don't support the program, and it doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than those who don't share my beliefs.
Because based on your logic you would want Coach K, Jay Wright, etc also fired at the same point in time of their careers at Nova and Duke. We have most major publications saying next year top 10....yes, this is why people shake their head. No patience. No recognition of trajectory.
Quote from: Cheeks on April 09, 2019, 03:00:06 PM
Because based on your logic you would want Coach K, Jay Wright, etc also fired at the same point in time of their careers at Nova and Duke. We have most major publications saying next year top 10....yes, this is why people shake their head. No patience. No recognition of trajectory.
At the same point of their careers? Wojo's been here for five years. In his fifth year at Nova, Wright went 28-6, got a #1 seed, and went to the Elite 8.
Coach K didn't achieve great success at Duke until year 6, when Duke went 37-3 and played in the National Championship game. Duke made the Tournament the two years prior to that.
So by your logic, Wojo is well behind Wright in terms of accomplishments, and will need to make the NC game in year 6 to match Coach K. No sweat, right?
What are your expectations for next year, assuming Howard returns? If MU is in fact a top 10 team going into the season, wouldn't anything less than a top 10-15 ranking all year and a 1-3 seed in the Tournament be a huge disappointment?
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 03:28:21 PM
At the same point of their careers? Wojo's been here for five years. In his fifth year at Nova, Wright went 28-6, got a #1 seed, and went to the Elite 8.
Coach K didn't achieve great success at Duke until year 6, when Duke went 37-3 and played in the National Championship game. Duke made the Tournament the two years prior to that.
So by your logic, Wojo is well behind Wright in terms of accomplishments, and will need to make the NC game in year 6 to match Coach K. No sweat, right?
What are your expectations for next year, assuming Howard returns? If MU is in fact a top 10 team going into the season, wouldn't anything less than a top 10-15 ranking all year and a 1-3 seed in the Tournament be a huge disappointment?
Thank you. I'm so tired of reading about the goddamn Jay Wright comparison. There's no comparison.
As you mentioned, he went to the Elite Eight and won the Big East in his fifth season. In addition, he took Nova to the Sweet Sixteen the year prior, the school's first since 1988.
By the end of his fifth season, it was quite clear that Wright had Nova moving fast into the upper echelon of college bball programs. By then, he had tangible success that he could use to recruit/continue to build his program, which he did.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 09, 2019, 07:29:12 AM
This is all well and good, but where the hell does Markus think he is going? There are only two rounds in the NBA draft.
Look I love the guy. Great shooter and from all angles he appears to be a fantastic person. NBA material yes if he can do the following better: pass, drive the ball, reduce turnovers, play defense and think team first. He needs another year be see if he can accomplish that.
Im thinking maybe all these high rankings will convince markus to stay
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on April 09, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Im thinking maybe all these high rankings will convince markus to stay
Might stay. Preseason polls wont be the reason.
I think hes gone
https://twitter.com/cbbonfox/status/1115746782355394561?s=21
Quote from: KampusFoods on April 09, 2019, 05:42:36 PM
Might stay. Preseason polls wont be the reason.
I think hes gone
He won't get drafted...so would he really not come back to MU if he isn't going to be drafted?? I love the kid and want him back
Quote from: muguru on April 09, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
He won't get drafted...so would he really not come back to MU if he isn't going to be drafted?? I love the kid and want him back
I dont know if he will get drafted. Haven't talked to each NBA teams scouts. Maybe you have.
Just heard a fair amount of smoke around him leaving. None of it rock solid, but people who I wouldn't expect to fabricate it. I hope they are all wrong and Markus is leading the team next year.
Quote from: RJax55 on April 09, 2019, 04:54:20 PMBy the end of his fifth season, it was quite clear that Wright had Nova moving fast into the upper echelon of college bball programs. By then, he had tangible success that he could use to recruit/continue to build his program, which he did.
By the end of Jay Wright's fifth season as a head coach, he had one NIT appearance & zero NCAA trips. By the end of K's fifth season, he also had one NIT appearance & zero NCAA trips.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 09, 2019, 06:41:48 PM
By the end of Jay Wright's fifth season as a head coach, he had one NIT appearance & zero NCAA trips. By the end of K's fifth season, he also had one NIT appearance & zero NCAA trips.
Yeah, and Wright was at Hofstra. Different expectations. Not to mention that in years 6 and 7, he was his conference's COY and led Hofstra to the NCAA tourney both years. But sure, you can omit that if you like.
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 01:04:57 PM
What's tiresome for me is the ardent Wojo supporters who'll tear down or ridicule anyone who doesn't like him. I'm a fan of Marquette basketball. I'm not a fan of Wojo. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I don't support the program, and it doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than those who don't share my beliefs.
I can't speak for others, but I try to reserve my ridicule for those who make ridiculous statements.
Your statements about the Wojo/Wright comparisons are not ridiculous. I might disagree with the facts you pick to make your argument, but I don't think your statements are ridiculous. It's a difference of opinion, and discussing such stuff is what these fanboards are for.
Those who say he already has proven we'll never win with him as coach, or those who say he "de-motivates" players, or those who think the team hasn't improved under him, or those who think he's a bad recruiter because he doesn't get every player he pursues, or those who say hiring him "proves" we're a mid-major, etc ... that stuff is ridiculous and the people saying them deserve ridicule IMHO.
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 06:49:50 PM
Yeah, and Wright was at Hofstra. Different expectations. Not to mention that in years 6 and 7, he was his conference's COY and led Hofstra to the NCAA tourney both years. But sure, you can omit that if you like.
I didn't omit anything. First five years is first five years. And I fail to see how winning COY in years 6-7 is remotely relevant when we're talking about the first 5. Talk about shifting the goalposts...
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 03:28:21 PM
At the same point of their careers? Wojo's been here for five years. In his fifth year at Nova, Wright went 28-6, got a #1 seed, and went to the Elite 8.
Coach K didn't achieve great success at Duke until year 6, when Duke went 37-3 and played in the National Championship game. Duke made the Tournament the two years prior to that.
So by your logic, Wojo is well behind Wright in terms of accomplishments, and will need to make the NC game in year 6 to match Coach K. No sweat, right?
What are your expectations for next year, assuming Howard returns? If MU is in fact a top 10 team going into the season, wouldn't anything less than a top 10-15 ranking all year and a 1-3 seed in the Tournament be a huge disappointment?
So you agree that you would fire Coach K then after his fifth year?
Yes, anything less than a top 3 seed would be a disappointment next year assuming we pull all that off....but didn't you say you are fine with him gone NOW?
Thank you on the correction of Wright.
Jon Fanta says all indications are he is staying, which is likely the kiss of death and means he is gone.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 09, 2019, 07:28:28 PM
I didn't omit anything. First five years is first five years. And I fail to see how winning COY in years 6-7 is remotely relevant when we're talking about the first 5. Talk about shifting the goalposts...
You quoted RJax55's post. He was responding to my post, where I clearly stated I was talking about Wright's first five years at Nova.
As for moving goalposts, fine, forget what I said about years 6 and 7 at Hofstra. I was talking about Wright's first five years at Nova, and said so in the post RJax was responding to.
How is markus even in the discussion on going pro after the run to end the season????
I thought his pro chances went from slim to none after that for this year.
Hes going to end up in europe or asia so why declare early?
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on April 09, 2019, 07:40:27 PM
How is markus even in the discussion on going pro after the run to end the season????
I thought his pro chances went from slim to none after that for this year.
Hes going to end up in europe or asia so why declare early?
If Europe, then he likely could get $200k, maybe $120k after taxes (and VAT).
If Markus returns, then he'd be on the cover/opening webpage of every publication and tops in social media. His reward is a college degree (and maybe more) plus a chance at championships.
Henry was an easy choice. For Markus, all that exposure and hype may be worth a lot more if he were to stay. Exploring your choices is a no-brainer.
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 07:34:08 PM
You quoted RJax55's post. He was responding to my post, where I clearly stated I was talking about Wright's first five years at Nova.
As for moving goalposts, fine, forget what I said about years 6 and 7 at Hofstra. I was talking about Wright's first five years at Nova, and said so in the post RJax was responding to.
I quoted the most salient part of his post, but he opened it by saying he was sick of Jay Wright comparisons. While I understand the basis of that, people comparing Jay Wright in years 8-12 as a coach to Wojo in years 1-5 aren't making a fair comparison, and the reason coaches like Wright and K are brought up is because they had relatively little success at the same point of their coaching careers.
When you look at year 5, Wojo is ahead of both of them in terms of the level of program he's at and the results he's produced. Is that because he started at a bigger program? Maybe, but he's ahead in terms of winning percentage, number of winning seasons, & postseason berths.
I'm not 100% sold on Wojo. I have serious concerns and would really like a few more sentinel moments to point to in order to say "yeah, he's got this." But as far as meeting expectations thus far, he's done okay. If he can continue meeting & incrementally increasing expectations, he'll get there, though it will almost certainly take longer than we'll like.
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on April 09, 2019, 07:40:27 PM
How is markus even in the discussion on going pro after the run to end the season????
I thought his pro chances went from slim to none after that for this year.
Hes going to end up in europe or asia so why declare early?
At the beginning of the year I thought that it would be a mistake for Markus to leave early, and I still think that, but I don't think the last 7 games really did anything to effect his stock one way or the other. NBA scouts don't really look at whether or not your team is winning, they look at you potential, and that hasn't really changed between the end of February and now.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 09, 2019, 08:05:46 PM
If Europe, then he likely could get $200k, maybe $120k after taxes (and VAT).
If Markus returns, then he'd be on the cover/opening webpage of every publication and tops in social media. His reward is a college degree (and maybe more) plus a chance at championships.
Henry was an easy choice. For Markus, all that exposure and hype may be worth a lot more if he were to stay. Exploring your choices is a no-brainer.
Spot on
Quote from: Research Report on April 09, 2019, 06:49:50 PM
Yeah, and Wright was at Hofstra. Different expectations. Not to mention that in years 6 and 7, he was his conference's COY and led Hofstra to the NCAA tourney both years. But sure, you can omit that if you like.
So knock the expectations because it's a midmajor program but then flaunt the midmajor COY.
Reasonable.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 09, 2019, 08:05:46 PM
If Europe, then he likely could get $200k, maybe $120k after taxes (and VAT).
If Markus returns, then he'd be on the cover/opening webpage of every publication and tops in social media. His reward is a college degree (and maybe more) plus a chance at championships.
Henry was an easy choice. For Markus, all that exposure and hype may be worth a lot more if he were to stay. Exploring your choices is a no-brainer.
Aaron White from Iowa has made $300,000+ playing in Europe. I would think Markus could get as much if not a bit more.
And who is to say that Markus doesn't have his degree already?
Not sure if folks saw the video yesterday of the rope and chain pull with Wojo vs Sam. Markus was right there working out.
Quote from: Cheeks on April 10, 2019, 09:22:58 AM
Not sure if folks saw the video yesterday of the rope and chain pull with Wojo vs Sam. Markus was right there working out.
But I saw a Hauser humiliating wojo, clearly because his parents told him to.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 10, 2019, 09:29:36 AM
But I saw a Hauser humiliating wojo, clearly because his parents told him to.
He clearly had extra motivation to beat the old man and show him who is boss.
Marquette also number 8 in USA Today's way-too-early rankings.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2019/04/09/preseason-college-basketball-top-25-rankings/3381228002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2019/04/09/preseason-college-basketball-top-25-rankings/3381228002/)
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 10, 2019, 09:29:36 AM
But I saw a Hauser humiliating wojo, clearly because his parents told him to.
Hopefully this news makes it out to Seattle.
Quote from: Cheeks on April 10, 2019, 09:22:58 AM
Not sure if folks saw the video yesterday of the rope and chain pull with Wojo vs Sam. Markus was right there working out.
Yeah, but the team was cheering Sam only. Wojo had Nelson cheering. Clearly Wojo is gone.
Thanks to everyone for posting the links to these rankings. Definitely amused to see the disparity in rankings among the experts. I was struck by the gaps in Villanova's rankings. From 6th in several to unranked in others.
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/18881555/whats-up-with-that.jpg)
Of the 16 teams that made the Sweet 16, only 2 teams (Houston - no votes - and Texas Tech - others receiving votes) were not in the preseason AP poll.
Of the 25 teams ranked in the preseason AP poll, only 4 (West Virginia, TCU, UCLA, Clemson) didn't make the NCAA Tournament, and only West Virginia was ranked above 20 in that group.
Of the top 4 seeds/16 teams, only 2 (Texas Tech and Houston) were not ranked in the preseason AP poll.
There's a reason a team is ranked highly in the preseason. They're good, and they usually prove it throughout the season. I don't know why anyone would hope we wouldn't have high expectations/be ranked highly.
Quote from: Charley Farley on April 08, 2019, 11:33:00 PM
Forget 7. ESPN has us at #2. So it will be the most Marquette thing ever for Markus to leave because being a Marquette fan feels like perpetual disappointment just when you think you might be on the verge of something amazing.
Yup. Really, really really, really good next year. Will be #1 by mid year.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 11, 2019, 06:17:38 AM
Yup. Really, really really, really good next year. Will be #1 by mid year.
Willie, would you rather have the basketball community think we are a potential top ten team next year or not on the radar at all? We all know you will be absent with every win, but vocal as hell with any loss.
Quote from: Cheeks on April 11, 2019, 08:07:39 AM
Willie, would you rather have the basketball community think we are a potential top ten team next year or not on the radar at all? We all know you will be absent with every win, but vocal as hell with any loss.
Imagining how amazing a season would be where we'd go undefeated and there'd be no illogical Guru or Willie rants
Quote from: The Lens on April 08, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
Mark Miller is saying on the IWB board that Markus is gone. That'll certainly affect pre season rankings.
#NotDoneDeal