Wait...Buzz leaves Marquette to go to Va Tech to ultimately go to Texas A&M? I'll begrudgingly accept coaching in the ACC as a reason to leave and I get why he might want to go back home but A&M really? What does this say about MU Rah Rah as a destination?
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on April 03, 2019, 02:49:53 PM
Wait...Buzz leaves Marquette to go to Va Tech to ultimately go to Texas A&M? I'll begrudgingly accept coaching in the ACC as a reason to leave and I get why he might want to go back home but A&M really? What does this say about MU Rah Rah as a destination?
Nothing.
Next!
When schools like TAMU, Tenn, Georgia, TCU, etc all have better coaches than Marquette I think that's a problem.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on April 03, 2019, 02:59:46 PM
When schools like TAMU, Tenn, Georgia, TCU, etc all have better coaches than Marquette I think that's a problem.
Who's TCU's coach?
I don't subscribe to the notion that there is no such thing as a dumb question. At present their coach is light years better then the dope we have.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on April 03, 2019, 02:59:46 PM
When schools like TAMU, Tenn, Georgia, TCU, etc all have better coaches than Marquette I think that's a problem.
Georgia? Um, no.
Oh Crean isn't a better coach?
Mods, delete this thread.
Just as the transitive property as it relates to game results is asinine,
It is even dumber when applied to coaching moves.
Not that hard, people.
Buzz had the MU train steaming big-time. The coal being shoveled into the engine (his handling of disciplinary matters and thwarting investigations) was not environmentally sound. He saw the writing on the wall and left before it was not his decision. He took a pay cut to go to an historically lesser program.
He since built up said program and now, only after having done the building himself, decided he wants to go home. There is no Marquette<Va Tech<Texas A&M equation. So stop. Please.
Mustn't feed the troll ... mustn't feed the troll ... mustn't feed the troll ...
Texas A&M will always be a very attractive destination (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2018/09/11/college-footballs-most-valuable-teams/#670d92e26c64).
Did any of you Wojo critics watch and March Madness games besides Marquette? The sec had 4 sweet 16 teams to none for the Big East. We had the luxury of playing in the BIG big East for a decade that culminated in 3 sweet 16s. A beat up Louisville can still take a coach from a great big East program, like any of the power 5 can do. Their alumni basis are many times as big.
I guess I'm glad all the "fire Bruce Pearl" fans from two years ago when he had a 44-54 record seem to have moved to Milwaukee to attack Wojo instead while i at least get to celebrate a final 4 here. I love the big East and we are very lucky to have Jay Wright as well as legends with St John's and Georgetown. If Wojo stays long term Marquette will he great - if not then we could have another string of 2 sweet 16s in 31 years like we did before Buzz.
Didn't realise you held Buzz in such high regard
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on February 23, 2011, 01:07:44 PM
Sadly, I don't think Marquette has put itself in a position to achieve these goals. Buzz is an average, at best, coach and our recruitment has focused too much on JUCO players which lack leadership and bball intellect.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on March 09, 2012, 09:55:10 AM
We all know these guys probably could add, subtract, or put together a coherent sentence. We're not talking ACT or SAT scores.
But they should be able to understand basketball strategy and if something isn't working how to change it.
Buzz does deserve some blame here too.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on February 22, 2014, 04:24:03 PM
Seems to me you "All American Posters" just can't tolerate opinions outside your own.The program is better off with ruthless fans who will only accept excellence. The future is now and fans should be disgusted with the players, Buzz, the entirety of this season. Just because you post all the time doesn't make your opinion more valid. Maybe it just makes you loud.
Everyone should be welcome to voice an opinion on here. We all want W's. Period.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on March 21, 2014, 04:56:37 PM
Maybe in the end we'll be better off.
Yes - we had very good years under Buzz, but this year was atrocious. It seemed to me that he was unwilling to change based on the personnel he had and that doesn't bode well for the future. A coach would cannot adapt is bound to die.
We have high expectations at MU. Va Tech has made the NCAA's twice in 25 years - the ball is low there and he'll probably sweat through less shirts with lowered pressure and expectations.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on March 21, 2014, 05:08:37 PM
Lets get real - the pressure at Marquette is high. We expect results and at Va Tech they don't. This pressure led to profuse sweating. His dry cleaning bill must have been enormous. Maybe he cannot afford to coach at Marquette.
(just applying some levity).
Good riddance I say.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on April 03, 2019, 03:10:23 PM
Oh Crean isn't a better coach?
Did you see what he did with a No. 1 ranked team at I-4?
It looks like A&M pays like it is a better job.
Quote from: Goose on April 03, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
It looks like A&M pays like it is a better job.
Sometimes you have to pay more to make up for other shortcomings that make a job crappier.
Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 03, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
Sometimes you have to pay more to make up for other shortcomings that make a job crappier.
And sometimes the fact that you pay more makes your job better. All about perspective and priorities.
Quote from: Goose on April 03, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
It looks like A&M pays like it is a better job.
Well, it is the largest school in TX and has over 450,000 alums. I suspect they could find some money to pay well.
Better job is not synonymous with better program.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on April 03, 2019, 03:06:55 PM
I don't subscribe to the notion that there is no such thing as a dumb question.
This is the best laugh I've had in a while
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/228/324/4a4.gif)
Nukem
I am guessing Harvard alums could pony up a nice payday for a coach, do they pay their coach $3.5m? They are paying Buzz big coin because they want to win a high level.
Pakuni
I was responding to point made in title of thread.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on April 03, 2019, 03:31:38 PM
Did you see what he did with a No. 1 ranked team at I-4?
Have you paid attention to the recruiting haul he has made since he has been at Georgia??
Quote from: muguru on April 03, 2019, 04:42:23 PM
Have you paid attention to the recruiting haul he has made since he has been at Georgia??
You made my point. He had some great recruiting classes at I-4. His 2012-13 team was the number 1 ranked team for about 10 weeks. The best he could do is Sweet 16. Can he recruit? Yes. Can he coach? I argue he's not the best in game coach.
Is he better than Wojo? Next year, Wojo will arguably have the best team while a head coach, though they won't be ranked No. 1 for 10 minutes, let alone 10 weeks. Let's see what he does with it.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 03:29:55 PM
Didn't realise you held Buzz in such high regard
This is funny.
Kevin O'Neill coached at Northwestern, after Tennessee, after Marquette.
Ergo, Northwestern is a better job than Marquette.
We are doomed.
Money talks and bullsh*t walks, aina?
Quote from: Goose on April 03, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
It looks like A&M pays like it is a better job.
What does it pay?
Quote from: auburnmarquette on April 03, 2019, 03:26:10 PM
Did any of you Wojo critics watch and March Madness games besides Marquette? The sec had 4 sweet 16 teams to none for the Big East. We had the luxury of playing in the BIG big East for a decade that culminated in 3 sweet 16s. A beat up Louisville can still take a coach from a great big East program, like any of the power 5 can do. Their alumni basis are many times as big.
I guess I'm glad all the "fire Bruce Pearl" fans from two years ago when he had a 44-54 record seem to have moved to Milwaukee to attack Wojo instead while i at least get to celebrate a final 4 here. I love the big East and we are very lucky to have Jay Wright as well as legends with St John's and Georgetown. If Wojo stays long term Marquette will he great - if not then we could have another string of 2 sweet 16s in 31 years like we did before Buzz.
Wouldnt celebrate anything related to Bruce Pearl and his former assistant coaches.
While Wojo may end up being great...and I dont want him fired...i also dont think it would be impossible to upgrade if he were to leave or be asked to leave. Surprised you think so little of MU.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 03:29:55 PM
Didn't realise you held Buzz in such high regard
I believe the technical term here is: pwned.
Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 03:18:33 PM
The coal being shoveled into the engine (his handling of disciplinary matters and thwarting investigations) was not environmentally sound.
Who? what? when? where? why?
Rick coached at SLU. People were right. We just aspire to be SLU.
Quote from: Mumichfan06 on April 03, 2019, 03:10:23 PM
Oh Crean isn't a better coach?
Nope. Overall record slightly above average. Made the tourney about 50% of the time in his career. Never made it past the sweet 16 without Dwayne Wade.
367-252
11-9 NCAA
2-3 NIT
So, in 19 years of coaching, 9 NCAA trips.
Maybe he has finally improved, will string together consecutive classes, learn to attack a zone, make in game adjustments, develop bigs. But if so, it is an argument to continue to be patient with Wojo. Because it will have taken Crean 20 years to do it.