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Title: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:16:01 PM
'Nuff said.

FIRE WOJO!
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2019, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?

stop sniffing model airplane glue, dude.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:21:16 PM
Florida State came in prepared, determined, resolved. There was a solid game plan which the 'Noles executed. Let Breaker Morant get his points and we'll play our game. Result: 28 point hammering of a mid major.

What I find hilarious is that Hamilton is not considered one of the game's great tacticians. Pretty much a roll out the balls and let 'em play guy.

FSU played the way a high major should when squaring off against a mid major.

We need a coach.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Johnny B on March 23, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
I would like to here some opinions on the what F*CK happened this season? Sure this team may not be a legit top 15 team but my god we are not like 160th either. Losing six of seven to finish the year is a disgrace. Hurts even more now knowing the team that beat us by 20 just lost by 30. Un fucking real. Wtf happened???
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 07:24:19 PM
What FSU did just further indicts Wojo. His lack of coaching ability, knowing how to expose a team's weaknesses, etc.  In the end, Murray St was an ordinary mid major with one great player.  Who beat us by 19
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: PointWarrior on March 23, 2019, 07:25:26 PM
Sure hope this is sarcasm.  Gard can't recruit or coach. 

Quote from: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 07:26:11 PM
Leonard Hamilton is a very underrated coach I've felt for a long time. He's consistently been a very successful coach at a football school in an enormously difficult conference.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on March 23, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
I would like to here some opinions on the what F*CK happened this season? Sure this team may not be a legit top 15 team but my god we are not like 160th either. Losing six of seven to finish the year is a disgrace. Hurts even more now knowing the team that beat us by 20 just lost by 30. Un unnatural carnal knowledgeing real. Wtf happened???
According to some on this site; MU was unlucky vs MSU and FSU was very lucky to win today.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 07:27:56 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:21:16 PM

FSU played the way a high major should when squaring off against a mid major.

We need a coach.

Yep and yep. Exactly right
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2019, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:21:16 PM
Florida State came in prepared, determined, resolved. There was a solid game plan which the 'Noles executed. Let Breaker Morant get his points and we'll play our game. Result: 28 point hammering of a mid major.

What I find hilarious is that Hamilton is not considered one of the game's great tacticians. Pretty much a roll out the balls and let 'em play guy.

FSU played the way a high major should when squaring off against a mid major.

We need a coach.

I don't agree with you on 90% of things, but you're 100% right here.  What is our problem game to game.  Defense?  nope.  Offense?  nope.  We don't get good recruits?  nope.  shooting?  nope.

It's all the little things.  The intangibles.  Turnovers.  No semblance of offense other than pass around the 3 point line and shoot.  Its just coaching.  Plain and simple.

Wojo is an ideal face for the university.  Its his coaching that gets in the way.  There is a reason he was an assistant at Duke for 12 years.  Our board just didn't see it.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 23, 2019, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 07:26:23 PM
According to some on this site; MU was unlucky vs MSU and FSU was very lucky to win today.

It depends who you play!
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
Bad matchup for Murray St.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: skianth16 on March 23, 2019, 07:35:22 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
Bad matchup for Murray St.

Preach.  + a million
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 23, 2019, 07:37:55 PM
So by the transitive property, does FSU beat Marquette by 47?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?

No.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
Bad matchup for Murray St.
no that's not it. chico's picked FSU to go to the final four of course msu would get their ass handed to them then.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:42:37 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 23, 2019, 07:28:08 PM
I don't agree with you on 90% of things, but you're 100% right here. 

If The Gipper and Tip could laugh over a splash of Irish Whiskey we should be able to share in the joys and agonies of being a Marquette die hard.

And, yes, it is coaching. Everything is in place: Talent, facilities, tradition, resources. It's a profound lack of vision, creativity, and dexterity.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
Bad matchup for Murray St.

You slay me, Mother Goose.

Well f#cking played!
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 23, 2019, 07:43:28 PM
Still waitin' on hearin' watt Wojo learned bye sittin' next ta K four 12 years. Ewe'd think somethin' woulda crept inta his noggin just bye osmosis and such, aina?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 07:44:42 PM
4ever
Wojo playing possum and hiding some tricks for when UCLA hires him.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Mutaman on March 23, 2019, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 23, 2019, 07:28:08 PM
I don't agree with you on 90% of things, but you're 100% right here. 

same here. Probably because basketball posts are the only time keefe isn't telling us how big his johnson is or how many women he's screwed.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?

Gard can coach circles around Wojo. Getting talent like Wojo can means little as we've all seen if you don't know how to coach em up, adjust during a game, coach them to be disciplined, etc
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: willie warrior on March 23, 2019, 07:50:12 PM
A further laugh st us
Murray's kicks our ass and FSU kicks their ass. Coaches will be lining up to kick Wojos ass
What a joke
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: jutaw22mu on March 23, 2019, 07:53:48 PM
Gard head coach, Wojo assistant???  Meh, time to move on.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: cheebs09 on March 23, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
I would take Wojo over Gard any day of the week.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Johnny B on March 23, 2019, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 23, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
I would take Wojo over Gard any day of the week.
Not disagreeing but just curious. Based on what ?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
Anybody who says Hamilton isn't considered a good coach and is thought of as a roll the ball out and play kind of guy isn't paying attention.

And you can sure learn a lot about the knowledge of some posters based on their reactions to single game results. I'm wondering if Jon and Goose were thinking how awful a coach Tony Bennett was when he lost by 20 to UMBC who then lost to Bruce Webber. Maybe Izzo can't coach because he lost to a 15 seed who then lost by 25 to a 10 seed. Or K because he lost to a 15 seed who then lost to a 10 seed by 12.

There's plenty to complain about. For people who pretend they're too smart for posters here, chicken littling how Murray State played in one game kind of diminishes that.

But if it makes you feel better about yourself then enjoy. Happy you guys got what you were hoping for.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:00:29 PM
Wades
Huh?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 23, 2019, 07:45:32 PM
same here. Probably because basketball posts are the only time keefe isn't telling us how big his johnson is or how many women he's screwed.

Fact is muta we would likely have a great time in person over single malt. These message boards don't lend themselves to the conviviality of the moment.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:00:29 PM
Wades
Huh?

Goose

Wades is butt hurt because there is now an official Wojo Death Clock with the UNLV intel
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: jonny09 on March 23, 2019, 08:02:56 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:00:29 PM
Wades
Huh?

Exactly. 
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2019, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
Anybody who says Hamilton isn't considered a good coach and is thought of as a roll the ball out and play kind of guy isn't paying attention.

And you can sure learn a lot about the knowledge of some posters based on their reactions to single game results. I'm wondering if Jon and Goose were thinking how awful a coach Tony Bennett was when he lost by 20 to UMBC who then lost to Bruce Webber. Maybe Izzo can't coach because he lost to a 15 seed who then lost by 25 to a 10 seed. Or K because he lost to a 15 seed who then lost to a 10 seed by 12.

There's plenty to complain about. For people who pretend they're too smart for posters here, chicken littling how Murray State played in one game kind of diminishes that.

But if it makes you feel better about yourself then enjoy. Happy you guys got what you were hoping for.

Get off your stupid perch.  We throw too much money at our program for these results.  Do you pay 75k for a god damn Hyundai? Jesus christ what's wrong with you dip sheets?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: brewcity77 on March 23, 2019, 08:06:22 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on March 23, 2019, 07:56:51 PM
Not disagreeing but just curious. Based on what ?

Gard's success thus far can all be attributed to one Bo Ryan recruit. Let's see what he does without Happ.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 23, 2019, 08:07:12 PM
Let's just retitle this thread to "The Meats Sum-it-up v2.0"

Congrats guys.  You deserve each other.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: cheebs09 on March 23, 2019, 08:08:45 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on March 23, 2019, 07:56:51 PM
Not disagreeing but just curious. Based on what ?

I think he benefitted from a bunch of experienced talent that Bo recruited. Once Happ graduates, I don't think he will recruit well enough to keep the Badgers a consistent tourney team. Could be totally wrong, but he benefitted a lot from having Koenig and Hayes right away.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 23, 2019, 08:09:38 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/wjmju.jpg)
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
Anybody who says Hamilton isn't considered a good coach and is thought of as a roll the ball out and play kind of guy isn't paying attention.

And you can sure learn a lot about the knowledge of some posters based on their reactions to single game results. I'm wondering if Jon and Goose were thinking how awful a coach Tony Bennett was when he lost by 20 to UMBC who then lost to Bruce Webber. Maybe Izzo can't coach because he lost to a 15 seed who then lost by 25 to a 10 seed. Or K because he lost to a 15 seed who then lost to a 10 seed by 12.

There's plenty to complain about. For people who pretend they're too smart for posters here, chicken littling how Murray State played in one game kind of diminishes that.

But if it makes you feel better about yourself then enjoy. Happy you guys got what you were hoping for.
but what about the other 6 of 8 games they lost to end the season.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
Bad matchup for Murray St.
Do you think so? Any thoughts on the sun rising in the east tomorrow?

Murray State is a mid-major with mid-major resources and players, besides Ja, that are mid-major players. No shot versus a legit top 30 team.

All the data points to MU falling apart at the end of the season; own it! Why? is for you to decide.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 23, 2019, 08:11:01 PM
Quote from: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?

Are we seriously in a position where we're clamoring for Greg unnatural carnal knowledgeing Gard? The guy that just got blown out by an Oregon team that finished 4th in the weak-ass Pac 12? WITH HAPP, mind you.

Come on man.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 23, 2019, 08:14:51 PM
Wades being wades.  Slobbing on Wojo, and upset that Wojo is going to be gone after next year.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 08:10:57 PM
Do you think so? Any thoughts on the sun rising in the east tomorrow?

Murray State is a mid-major with mid-major resources and players, besides Ja, that are mid-major players. No shot versus a legit top 30 team.

All the data points to MU falling apart at the end of the season; own it! Why? is for you to decide.

White Trash

The Goose Man was displaying his wry wit.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:21:38 PM
Quote from: MUpilot on March 23, 2019, 08:14:51 PM
Wades being wades.  Slobbing on Wojo, and upset that Wojo is going to be gone after next year.

Flier,

Waddya think...is wades a spitter or swallower?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:19:29 PM
White Trash

The Goose Man was displaying his wry wit.

Ahhh! Got it. Sometimes hard to separate the actual stupidity from wit. My bad. I'll "own it".
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Mutaman on March 23, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:00:39 PM
Fact is muta we would likely have a great time in person over single malt. These message boards don't lend themselves to the conviviality of the moment.

fair enough. but we'd have to focus on Al and not politics. Speaking of which , the izzo affair reminded me of this pete Vecsey story:

"You had to be tough (or know how to fake it) to play for McGuire, because eventually you had to fight him before practice, during it, afterward or following games. Joe Hughes, who played with McGuire at St. John's before transferring to Denver, said he witnessed Al going round and round in the Marquette locker room with macho forward Maurice Lucas.

Bruised and bleeding, his shirt ripped to shreds, McGuire casually remarked, "He'll think twice about disrespecting me again."

Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
Gard would have won Big East regular season with our team.  In an undeniably strong Big Ten, way better this year than BE, still had them 4th
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on March 23, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
fair enough. but we'd have to focus on Al and not politics. Speaking of which , the izzo affair reminded me of this pete Vecsey story:

"You had to be tough (or know how to fake it) to play for McGuire, because eventually you had to fight him before practice, during it, afterward or following games. Joe Hughes, who played with McGuire at St. John's before transferring to Denver, said he witnessed Al going round and round in the Marquette locker room with macho forward Maurice Lucas.

Bruised and bleeding, his shirt ripped to shreds, McGuire casually remarked, "He'll think twice about disrespecting me again."

Marquette has such a rich, colorful tradition. The Marquette brand is renegade. It's brawling, and switchblades, and dancing on the sidelines after slam dunks.

Wojo is the antithesis of everything we stand for. The BoT went too far. We need to get back to our roots.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2019, 08:32:29 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Marquette has such a rich, colorful tradition. The Marquette brand is renegade. It's brawling, and switchblades, and dancing on the sidelines after slam dunks.

Wojo is the antithesis of everything we stand for. The BoT went too far. We need to get back to our roots.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
Gard would have won Big East regular season with our team.  In an undeniably strong Big Ten, way better this year than BE, still had them 4th

Gard is likely the Madison equivalent of Mike Deane. Superb tactician but uninspired recruiter.

I do give Dino credit - the man could game plan for Cincinnati and Louisville like no other. We were terribly under-talented by comparison and yet the Potsdam Lush could lay traps for Huggins and Pitino better than anyone.

Not sure if Gard is a drinking man but he does know his X's and O's.

Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Mutaman on March 23, 2019, 08:36:29 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Marquette has such a rich, colorful tradition. The Marquette brand is renegade. It's brawling, and switchblades, and dancing on the sidelines after slam dunks.

Wojo is the antithesis of everything we stand for. The BoT went too far. We need to get back to our roots.

Funny, cause the next line of vecsey's story is : "At the same time, Al treasured revolt and prized the rebellious."

https://nypost.com/2009/04/05/mcguire-an-unorthodox-legend/
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Marquette has such a rich, colorful tradition. The Marquette brand is renegade. It's brawling, and switchblades, and dancing on the sidelines after slam dunks.

Wojo is the antithesis of everything we stand for. The BoT went too far. We need to get back to our roots.

Let's just get a guy who's smart and tough and teams reflect that. We don't have to have an Al reincarnation
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Da 'Lanche on March 23, 2019, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
Gard would have won Big East regular season with our team.  In an undeniably strong Big Ten, way better this year than BE, still had them"


Um...no.  Gard is a good guy and successful at the D3 level and as an assistant at UW...but good god without Happ that team would have been lucky to be .500 at best total record for the year.  His entire game plans were around giving him his touches and they were fortunate he was that good.  Give him MU and Markus may have shot 30 times a game.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 08:49:15 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
Let's just get a guy who's smart and tough and teams reflect that. We don't have to have an Al reincarnation
totally agree. no one is going to duplicate Al. trying to duplicate that is setting someone up for failure. like trying to replace Lombardi, it doesn't work.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Babybluejeans on March 23, 2019, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Marquette has such a rich, colorful tradition. The Marquette brand is renegade. It's brawling, and switchblades, and dancing on the sidelines after slam dunks.

Wojo is the antithesis of everything we stand for. The BoT went too far. We need to get back to our roots.

On point. To answer questions in other threads about why Buzz keeps coming up, it's because he captured that same spirit. The dancing on the sidelines, waltzing on the WV logo, tough-as-nails players. Al's gone and so is Buzz, but the spirit shouldn't be.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 23, 2019, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: CleanishProgram on March 23, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
I would take a Wojo/Gard swap.

Anyone else?

If I was Barry Alvarez, I'd consider.

Would the Hausers come with the swap?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Hairy
As you know, I and many (you) are big Al guys, but I am tired of the constant Al influence at MU. He has been dead for nearly two decades and give from coaching for 42 years. No more Al on the uniform, no more Al nights and do not have to mention Al McGuire court every timeout.
Those who love him, will always love him. It is time to turn that page and let someone else have their day, outside of his shadow. I love Al as much as anyone, but I get tired of it being exploited at games.
I guess, long post to say I agree with your post.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: skianth16 on March 23, 2019, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:42:37 PM
If The Gipper and Tip could laugh over a splash of Irish Whiskey we should be able to share in the joys and agonies of being a Marquette die hard.

And, yes, it is coaching. Everything is in place: Talent, facilities, tradition, resources. It's a profound lack of vision, creativity, and dexterity.

You're missing the point. Wojo says the right things at the right times. Clearly, that means he's the right captain for this ship. He has the right image. The articles aren't critical. We're in a good spot. #resultsnomatta
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:55:59 PM
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on March 23, 2019, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:27:07 PM



Um...no.  Gard is a good guy and successful at the D3 level and as an assistant at UW...but good god without Happ that team would have been lucky to be .500 at best total record for the year.  His entire game plans were around giving him his touches and they were fortunate he was that good.  Give him MU and Markus may have shot 30 times a game.

You basically verified my point. Give Gard our team that didn't have to rely on one guy, in the weak 18-19 BE, and he brings home a conference title. He wouldn't have lost at home to Creighton amd Georgetown. That's all it would have taken
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: MUfan12 on March 23, 2019, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
Marquette has such a rich, colorful tradition. The Marquette brand is renegade. It's brawling, and switchblades, and dancing on the sidelines after slam dunks.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/68efdf08c0b12dda3cc0193d09ea2a02/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on March 23, 2019, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Hairy
As you know, I and many (you) are big Al guys, but I am tired of the constant Al influence at MU. He has been dead for nearly two decades and give from coaching for 42 years. No more Al on the uniform, no more Al nights and do not have to mention Al McGuire court every timeout.
Those who love him, will always love him. It is time to turn that page and let someone else have their day, outside of his shadow. I love Al as much as anyone, but I get tired of it being exploited at games.
I guess, long post to say I agree with your post.

As soon as another coach runs us a national title we'll move on. Until then people will forever remember and idolize the coach that won us on single national championship.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2019, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Hairy
As you know, I and many (you) are big Al guys, but I am tired of the constant Al influence at MU. He has been dead for nearly two decades and give from coaching for 42 years. No more Al on the uniform, no more Al nights and do not have to mention Al McGuire court every timeout.
Those who love him, will always love him. It is time to turn that page and let someone else have their day, outside of his shadow. I love Al as much as anyone, but I get tired of it being exploited at games.
I guess, long post to say I agree with your post.


Ooooo hot take, but I completely agree.  He also would not love being deified. (You know, I can say this because I know him!)
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:59:34 PM
Da Lanche- Gard's entire game plans centering around Happ were an indication of his strength as coach. Can't imagine why that showed a flaw in his ability to you. It was a necessity for his team to have any chance this year, given rest of their personnel
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:02:10 PM
Hards

I have stating that opinion on here multiple times over the years. I actually get pissed at the over the top Al love shown by MU. Never forget him, but they cross a line IMO.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 23, 2019, 09:05:02 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:02:10 PM
Hards

I have stating that opinion on here multiple times over the years. I actually get pissed at the over the top Al love shown by MU. Never forget him, but they cross a line IMO.

Much like Lombardi.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Hairy
As you know, I and many (you) are big Al guys, but I am tired of the constant Al influence at MU. He has been dead for nearly two decades and give from coaching for 42 years. No more Al on the uniform, no more Al nights and do not have to mention Al McGuire court every timeout.
Those who love him, will always love him. It is time to turn that page and let someone else have their day, outside of his shadow. I love Al as much as anyone, but I get tired of it being exploited at games.
I guess, long post to say I agree with your post.
agree. he is part of the proud history. I grew up on Al McGuire basketball and one of many reasons I am a mu fan today. However it is hard if not impossible to duplicate a legend. Doesn't mean mu shouldn't aim for the top. I am not sure if the powers that be feel that way sometimes.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 23, 2019, 09:08:53 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Hairy
As you know, I and many (you) are big Al guys, but I am tired of the constant Al influence at MU. He has been dead for nearly two decades and give from coaching for 42 years. No more Al on the uniform, no more Al nights and do not have to mention Al McGuire court every timeout.
Those who love him, will always love him. It is time to turn that page and let someone else have their day, outside of his shadow. I love Al as much as anyone, but I get tired of it being exploited at games.
I guess, long post to say I agree with your post.

Well put Goose.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:09:39 PM
Hards
At least the Favre era took away some of the Lombardi love fest. Winning helps people move on. Sadly, once we get started the wheels fall off. Have couple of decades of real success and people move on to the present.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 08:10:46 PM
but what about the other 6 of 8 games they lost to end the season.

That's my point.  There's plenty to complain about.  Complaining about how much Murray State lost by after beating MU?  Beyond laughable.  For a bunch of old men who talk about how much better the good old days were when people could actually be a man and not have safe spaces for all millenials, the line of thinking is as soft minded as it gets.

Oh and suggesting that Marquette should've had the same gameplan as Florida State is...uhh...laughable.  Marquette and Florida State are not similar teams.  At all.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Da 'Lanche on March 23, 2019, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 08:59:34 PM
Da Lanche- Gard's entire game plans centering around Happ were an indication of his strength as coach. Can't imagine why that showed a flaw in his ability to you. It was a necessity for his team to have any chance this year, given rest of their personnel

Thanks...I get your point and it makes some sense to me...I guess...it is more than planning with what you got but how did you get there?   Gard has one guy (who I thought was really fantastic) and nobody else who can ball at a high level on that team following a world class decade of success?    Maybe he is a better x and o coach than Wojo (arguably) but his program post Happ is heading to a mid major talent level program quickly...
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:12:10 PM
Quote from: MUpilot on March 23, 2019, 08:14:51 PM
Wades being wades.  Slobbing on Wojo, and upset that Wojo is going to be gone after next year.

Just curious, you make a new Instagram account?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:21:38 PM
Flier,

Waddya think...is wades a spitter or swallower?

Lol.  Seems like pilots are really interested in this type of thing.  Weird.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on March 23, 2019, 09:11:28 PM
Thanks...I get your point and it makes some sense to me...I guess...it is more than planning with what you got but how did you get there?   Gard has one guy (who I thought was really fantastic) and nobody else who can boat in that team following a world class decade of success?    Maybe he is a better x and o coach than Wojo (arguably) but his program post Happ is heading to a mid major talent level program quickly...

Might be so. No doubt, huge questions of his recruiting ability and rightly so.

But my point was give him this years MU team and we're a conference champion and who knows from there
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:15:23 PM
hairy
I do not believe the powers understand what being in the top looks like or how to get there. I have mentioned many times my displeasure in BOT and how they go about things regarding their biggest asset. I have no doubt they want the program to be successful, but doubt they have definition they agree to in regards to success.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:11:03 PM
That's my point.  There's plenty to complain about.  Complaining about how much Murray State lost by after beating MU?  Beyond laughable.  For a bunch of old men who talk about how much better the good old days were when people could actually be a man and not have safe spaces for all millenials, the line of thinking is as soft minded as it gets.

Oh and suggesting that Marquette should've had the same gameplan as Florida State is...uhh...laughable.  Marquette and Florida State are not similar teams.  At all.
well I agree with you on the game plan. I never said they should duplicate FSU game plan. My issue is if you see something is not working then change it for christ sake. That's my frustration through the entire losing streak. same thing over and over and same result.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
Wades
You are correct MU and Fl St are not similar teams. One won a convincing game to advance to S16 and one did not. Your reference to old guys and the old days is laughable. What are you talking about?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 23, 2019, 09:16:04 PM
well I agree with you on the game plan. I never said they should duplicate FSU game plan. My issue is if you see something is not working then change it for christ sake. That's my frustration through the entire losing streak. same thing over and over and same result.

Agreed.  Very frustrating final month of the season.

Whether Murray State won the NCAA Title by winning every game by 20+ or lost to FSU by 30 the game after us, that does not change my opinion personally.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
Wades
You are correct MU and Fl St are not similar teams. One won a convincing game to advance to S16 and one did not. Your reference to old guys and the old days is laughable. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about how midget minded it is to turn to how Murray State played in their next game to complain about Marquette basketball.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Da 'Lanche on March 23, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 09:15:02 PM
Might be so. No doubt, huge questions of his recruiting ability and rightly so.

But my point was give him this years MU team and we're a conference champion and who knows from there

I'm not going to argue in Wojo's x and o nor gametume adjustment aptitude...-imo absolutely killed us the last 7 games...
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
Wades
You are correct MU and Fl St are not similar teams. One won a convincing game to advance to S16 and one did not. Your reference to old guys and the old days is laughable. What are you talking about?
Agreed. That was a weird/nonsensical post.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 23, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
MUs and FSUs results against murray state had very little to do with coaching and almost everything to do with talent levels
FSU had size and athleticism
MU lacks both, mostly athleticism
Murray statte was more athletic than MU
Fsus athleticism dwarfed murray states
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:27:13 PM
I did not say a word about the game today. I had FL St in my bracket. Why would I care how Murray State did today? Only Wojo lovers were pulling for a big Murray State win to make our loss look better in their shallow minds. Don't care how MS played, looked or outcome. We got ass kicked by a mid major and such is life.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:22:46 PM
I'm talking about how midget minded it is to turn to how Murray State played in their next game to complain about Marquette basketball.
Your posts are getting stranger. There is no logic.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:31:08 PM
WhiteTrash
Your post made me laugh. Thanks.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:33:56 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:27:13 PM
I did not say a word about the game today. I had FL St in my bracket. Why would I care how Murray State did today? Only Wojo lovers were pulling for a big Murray State win to make our loss look better in their shallow minds. Don't care how MS played, looked or outcome. We got ass kicked by a mid major and such is life.

Wait.  Only Wojo lovers cared what Murray State did today hoping for a big win...yet here we are 4 pages into a thread about Murray State getting smoked by Florida State?

Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:31:08 PM
WhiteTrash
Your post made me laugh. Thanks.

And my post is the one lacking logic.

Sheesh!  Lol.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
wades
You pointed me out in a previous post in this thread. I was simply stating I said nothing about the team that beat us by 19  on Thursday, losing by 20+ today. There can be 404 pages and I will not comment about the game. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, and I don't care about MS or how they looked today.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
Agreed.  Very frustrating final month of the season.

Whether Murray State won the NCAA Title by winning every game by 20+ or lost to FSU by 30 the game after us, that does not change my opinion personally.

After we got waxed by Murray St we were told by the the board's resident basketball expert and knower of all things great and small that we were victims of the fates because we had to play the grossly under seeded, super talented powerhouse "Racers". You just wait, he warned - they're about to prove just how good they are. Well, people waited for the proof. And this afternoon they got it. Murray St was a 12 seed because they deserved to be a 12 seed. We didn't get a bad draw - they got a good one.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 09:53:56 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
After we got waxed by Murray St we were told by the the board's resident basketball expert and knower of all things great and small that we were victims of the fates because we had to play the grossly under seeded, super talented powerhouse "Racers". You just wait, he warned - they're about to prove just how good they are. Well, people waited for the proof. And this afternoon they got it. Murray St was a 12 seed because they deserved to be a 12 seed. We didn't get a bad draw - they got a good one.
Yep. Hope he enjoys crow.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:11:03 PM
For a bunch of old men

Alright. I challenge you to do a workout with me.

If you can keep up with this 'old man' you can continue to use that pejorative expression.

- Bench 50 reps of 250 pounds

- 10 mile run

- 4,000' vertical gain with 140 pounds on your back

- 2 mile swim

If you can do this with me then you can continue to use the term 'old man.'

Many people here know me and will attest that I make Theo John look scrawny.

Are you man enough, wades, or just another internet tough guy?

Old man, my ass you weak bellied punk.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
After we got waxed by Murray St we were told by the the board's resident basketball expert and knower of all things great and small that we were victims of the fates because we had to play the grossly under seeded, super talented powerhouse "Racers". You just wait, he warned - they're about to prove just how good they are. Well, people waited for the proof. And this afternoon they got it. Murray St was a 12 seed because they deserved to be a 12 seed. We didn't get a bad draw - they got a good one.

Fair enough. Glad you got the answer you were hoping for. To me it doesn't change how I feel this season went one bit.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 09:56:24 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
Murray St was a 12 seed because they deserved to be a 12 seed. We didn't get a bad draw - they got a good one.

Truth! Well said.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 09:54:32 PM
Alright. I challenge you to do a workout with me.

If you can keep up with this 'old man' you can continue to use that pejorative expression.

- Bench 50 reps of 250 pounds

- 10 mile run

- 4,000' vertical gain with 140 pounds on your back

- 2 mile swim

If you can do this with me then you can continue to use the term 'old man.'

Many people here know me and will attest that I make Theo John look scrawny.

Are you man enough, wades, or just another internet tough guy?

Old man, my ass you weak bellied punk.

LOL! My goodness it might not get any better than this. Why not just pull out the yard sticks and measure the peckers while we're at it jonny boy?

Congrats on being all that is man. I already know you are much more of a man than I ever will be. After all, only real men wonder whether other men suck swallow or gag.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:58:15 PM
Lenny
I told someone the exact same thing today in regards to MS getting a good draw. Truth be told, we got schooled by a team that many in here touted as a joke based off their four losses. I have seen them play twice and think they are a mid major with a stud.
I was laughing with my wife during MS game regarding how bad is our luck, we would have had two bad draws in a row if we had won on Thursday. What are the odds of that? Especially for the #1 five seed.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 10:00:06 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 09:58:15 PM
Lenny
I told someone the exact same thing today in regards to MS getting a good draw. Truth be told, we got schooled by a team that many in here touted as a joke based off their four losses. I have seen them play twice and think they are a mid major with a stud.
I was laughing with my wife during MS game regarding how bad is our luck, we would have had two bad draws in a row if we had won on Thursday. What are the odds of that? Especially for the #1 five seed.

If you thought MS's draw was so great why'd you pick MU like you shared a couple times?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:01:51 PM
wades
You dish out plenty of sh1t and then scramble when challenged. Not sure why you feel you can say whatever you want but get feelings hurt when someone is not living on Woj.
For the record, Crash does make Theo look scrawny and I know Crash has that edge to him.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 10:02:38 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:01:51 PM
wades
You dish out plenty of sh1t and then scramble when challenged. Not sure why you feel you can say whatever you want but get feelings hurt when someone is not living on Woj.
For the record, Crash does make Theo look scrawny and I know Crash has that edge to him.

Not sure where the running is. Like I said, congrats to jonny.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 23, 2019, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:55:43 PM
Fair enough. Glad you got the answer you were hoping for. To me it doesn't change how I feel this season went one bit.

Fair enough.

But this tournament hasn't given me the answers I was hoping for- rather the answers I feared (and, sadly, expected) - that the Big East was awful this year and every team in it was grossly overrated.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:04:16 PM
wades
I pM'd several knowledgeable scoopers about hour before game telling them I was pissed I did not change pick. Told them Morant would run wild, we would get in early foul trouble and lose by 10+.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:05:27 PM
wades
Running? What are you talking about?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:05:27 PM
wades
Running? What are you talking about?
I had the same question when I read that post. Like I said, weird and no logic.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: NickelDimer on March 23, 2019, 10:10:10 PM
I have no idea how we managed to make Murray St look like a 1 seed playing a 16. Still makes me sick
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 23, 2019, 10:11:44 PM
Wades just pissed off that sultan hasn't been around lately.  Right wades?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2019, 10:05:27 PM
wades
Running? What are you talking about?

Sorry. "Scramble."
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: MUpilot on March 23, 2019, 10:11:44 PM
Wades just pissed off that sultan hasn't been around lately.  Right wades?

Couldn't care less who's around.

What's your new Instagram name? Or are you staying off of that for a while?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 10:15:04 PM
Wades obviously thinks ageism is a source of humor.

I have to wonder why a weak assed punk like that can make pejorative statements about age and not get censured.

Frankly, I haven't met the twerp but I know he won't measure up. 
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 10:16:10 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 10:15:04 PM
Wades obviously thinks ageism is a source of humor.

I have to wonder why a weak assed punk like that can make pejorative statements about age and not get censured.

Frankly, I haven't met the twerp but I know he won't measure up.

Lol.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 23, 2019, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: MUpilot on March 23, 2019, 10:11:44 PM
Wades just pissed off that sultan hasn't been around lately.  Right wades?

Flier

He's a twerp.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Cheeks on March 24, 2019, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2019, 07:26:23 PM
According to some on this site; MU was unlucky vs MSU and FSU was very lucky to win today.

Name one person and show evidence that anyone said that because no one did
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 24, 2019, 12:26:13 AM
Quote from: MUpilot on March 23, 2019, 10:11:44 PM
sultan hasn't been around lately. 

Fund raisin' is a damned tough gig
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: withoutbias on March 24, 2019, 12:27:09 AM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 08:21:38 PM
Flier,

Waddya think...is wades a spitter or swallower?

looks like somebody has a problem with gay people. or not meant to be an insult?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 24, 2019, 12:54:45 AM
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 24, 2019, 12:27:09 AM
looks like somebody has a problem with gay people. or not meant to be an insult?

nh
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: withoutbias on March 24, 2019, 04:04:27 AM
Quote from: Jon on March 24, 2019, 12:54:45 AM
nh

i dont think that fits in this context. but i think i know what youre getting at.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: CTWarrior on March 24, 2019, 07:17:43 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:22:46 PM
I'm talking about how midget minded it is to turn to how Murray State played in their next game to complain about Marquette basketball.
I did not participate in it, but I thought it is pretty obvious that was a reaction to a specific poster who was vaguely excusing the beat down at the hands of Murray State by implying they were some sort of juggernaut. 
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: willie warrior on March 24, 2019, 07:57:54 AM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 10:17:11 PM
Flier

He's a twerp.
Twerp. There is a word that has not been heard much for a while. Is it ready for a comeback?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 25, 2019, 04:02:35 AM
Quote from: willie warrior on March 24, 2019, 07:57:54 AM
Twerp. There is a word that has not been heard much for a while. Is it ready for a comeback?

Willie

When the shoe fits...

Some of us have some miles on the machine but the engine remains a finely tuned quality piece of engineering.

There are classics in the world, Willie: the '66 Shelby, the '66 Alfa Romeo Spider, the '69 240 Z, the MGB, the TR4, the Karmann Ghia, the F4 Phantom, the Spitfire, the Mustang, and the Warthog.

Some of these young punks don't appreciate fine craftsmanship. And that's a damn shame.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: slingkong on March 26, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 23, 2019, 07:16:01 PM
'Nuff said.

FIRE WOJO!

Or what? What are you prepared to do if he's not fired within the next year? Put your money where your mouth is!
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 27, 2019, 11:52:28 AM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on March 23, 2019, 07:45:38 PM
Gard can coach circles around Wojo. Getting talent like Wojo can means little as we've all seen if you don't know how to coach em up, adjust during a game, coach them to be disciplined, etc

Just checking, so your answer is Yes?
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Coleman on March 27, 2019, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 23, 2019, 09:22:46 PM
I'm talking about how midget minded it is to turn to how Murray State played in their next game to complain about Marquette basketball.

Also, Dude, "midget" is not the preferred nomenclature. "Little person," please.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Stronghold on March 27, 2019, 06:52:03 PM
I came to this thread for the first time since the game looking for basketball insight on what FSU did that we couldn't and found almost none. 
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: real chili 83 on March 27, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: Stronghold on March 27, 2019, 06:52:03 PM
I came to this thread for the first time since the game looking for basketball insight on what FSU did that we couldn't and found almost none.

They scored more points than us....a lot more.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 27, 2019, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 24, 2019, 07:17:43 AM
I did not participate in it, but I thought it is pretty obvious that was a reaction to a specific poster who was vaguely excusing the beat down at the hands of Murray State by implying they were some sort of juggernaut.

Ding, ding, ding!
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Cheeks on March 27, 2019, 09:58:06 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 24, 2019, 07:17:43 AM
I did not participate in it, but I thought it is pretty obvious that was a reaction to a specific poster who was vaguely excusing the beat down at the hands of Murray State by implying they were some sort of juggernaut.

No one said Murray State was a juggernaut.  Some people said they were a horrible matchup for us, and that was correct.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Jon on March 28, 2019, 03:39:39 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on March 27, 2019, 09:58:06 PM
No one said Murray State was a juggernaut.  Some people said they were a horrible matchup for us, and that was correct.

Horrible matchup?

We were woefully unprepared. We were humiliated by a mid major of very slender accomplishment. Very slender, indeed.

That same mid major was decimated by Florida State just two days later. FSU beat them by 28 points.

If that was not the punctuation on one of the most shameful stretches in the storied annals of a once proud Marquette basketball team I do not know what is.

Shameful.
Title: Re: FSU Humiliates Murray State
Post by: Cheeks on March 28, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 28, 2019, 03:39:39 PM
Horrible matchup?

We were woefully unprepared. We were humiliated by a mid major of very slender accomplishment. Very slender, indeed.

That same mid major was decimated by Florida State just two days later. FSU beat them by 28 points.

If that was not the punctuation on one of the most shameful stretches in the storied annals of a once proud Marquette basketball team I do not know what is.

Shameful.

Transitive properties in sports are lame. If you want to go there, we beat Louisville on a neutral court, Va Tech lost to them on their home court.  Means nothing.

FSU I have I'm the Final Four, they have annihilated several teams of late, so that is also not a big wake up.

Crash, if we had played some of the 11's and even 10's I would have felt much better.  Murray State was a bad matchup for us.  I didn't care of the game plan, but with our foot speed if we went straight man I see same outcome ultimately, which is a loss. 

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