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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 5DollarPitcher on March 09, 2019, 05:35:38 PM
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We can analyze this 100 ways sidways, but it's clear that Wojo sets the tone for the team before games, out of timeouts, etc. He has nerves, they project onto the players, this program is a mess because of it.
Let's wipe the slate clean before it's too late and get this figured out. The end of this season was a complete joke and is not in-line with the Warrior reputation. We are better than this, and Coach Wojo, individually, is not. COME ON!
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Play calling out of time outs is solid, even today. Commitment to defensive principles finally took. Team was mentally tough until two weeks ago.
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The tone is fine. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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The pace of improvement might be slower than many want, but the fact remains that we have been improving year to year. As long as that continues, I want Wojo to stay.
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The pace of improvement might be slower than many want, but the fact remains that we have been improving year to year. As long as that continues, I want Wojo to stay.
I generally agree with this and I’d add he continues to land recruits. I hope the patience pays off and there are signs it will
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The pace of improvement might be slower than many want, but the fact remains that we have been improving year to year. As long as that continues, I want Wojo to stay.
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube
In the year 7510
If God's a coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day
In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down, and start again
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing
Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
Songwriters: Richard Lee Evans
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Play calling out of time outs is solid, even today. Commitment to defensive principles finally took. Team was mentally tough until two weeks ago.
Wojo called a great play out of a Time Out and Bailey just put it on the backboard weakly.
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WOJO has put it in Markus's ear and the rest of the team is that Markus needs to take over the game with 3 minutes left.....
That is just plain and simple.....Poor coaching.....
Especially when he espouses the strength is "the team"
Let me ask.....How/has that Markus thing worked out in any game in the last 3 minutes this year?????
Hmmm...Still waiting.....
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Play calling out of time outs is solid, even today. Commitment to defensive principles finally took. Team was mentally tough until two weeks ago.
So who is the collapse on? Coach? Markus? Sam? Seniors? Who?
Seems to me like a coaching catastrophe.
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win every day right wojo? absolute trash. zero confidence in this guy. season has become a disaster
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Play calling out of time outs is solid, even today. Commitment to defensive principles finally took. Team was mentally tough until two weeks ago.
I especially like the two ATO plays in the second half where we got wide open layups and biffed them both. Shame on Wojo
Or the 15 rebounds we fumbled until Georgetown picked it up.
Those arent on wojo kids gotta finish plays. Could Wojo be better sure. But we play nervously and cant, pass, catch or rebound far too often. Kids gotta make thise plays, winning teams do, losing teams do not
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I remember being at games at the old Arena, and our Marquette coach being heckled by Marquette fans. That same coach once told me "never become a basketball coach." This statement came from a
man whos greatest passion was basketball. He eventually had enough of the negativity from the armchair coaches and went on to win another 461 games at other institutions. His name was Rick
Majerus and he was followed by Bob Dukeit.
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I remember being at games at the old Arena, and our Marquette coach being heckled by Marquette fans. That same coach once told me "never become a basketball coach." This statement came from a
man whos greatest passion was basketball. He eventually had enough of the negativity from the armchair coaches and went on to win another 461 games at other institutions. His name was Rick
Majerus and he was followed by Bob Dukeit.
Yep. The posts which appear above yours are from people with a right to express their opinions....but in the end, it is all just NOISE. Georgetown overcame a noisy building today...I suspect our guys and coaches will overcome this noisy fan environment as well. I’m betting they hear it, and I’m betting it actually fuels them in NYC and beyond. This 4-game skid has been tumultuous and brutal, but alas...it may just produce a perfect March storm.
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Wojo is to Mojo as Wario is to Mario
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Yep. The posts which appear above yours are from people with a right to express their opinions....but in the end, it is all just NOISE. Georgetown overcame a noisy building today...I suspect our guys and coaches will overcome this noisy fan environment as well. I’m betting they hear it, and I’m betting it actually fuels them in NYC and beyond. This 4-game skid has been tumultuous and brutal, but alas...it may just produce a perfect March storm.
Reminds one of the old Dusty Springfield song "wishing and hopin"
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We can analyze this 100 ways sidways, but it's clear that Wojo sets the tone for the team before games, out of timeouts, etc. He has nerves, they project onto the players, this program is a mess because of it.
Let's wipe the slate clean before it's too late and get this figured out. The end of this season was a complete joke and is not in-line with the Warrior reputation. We are better than this, and Coach Wojo, individually, is not. COME ON!
So rather than allowing a coach who has made progress, and a program that is in a far better place than when Wojo came in continue to grow, you’d rather tear it down and start all over again?? That makes sense??
I’m frustrated as all get out too by the last few games, but to ignore the overall picture, albeit far from where I’d prefer it be, and call for starting over makes absolutely no sense to me. Always interesting to see how quickly “ “Fans” jump the ship.
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Amen StillWarriors.People are idiots.If half of them knew what they were talking about they would be dangerous.
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If injuries t Sam and Markus are causing this collapse, then who do you blame? It seems like Sams hip and Markus’s wrist or hip are bothering them. Don’t know for sure but seems that way. Then I blame none. Plays called after time outs yesterday were the best of the year as I see it.
So, let’s heal and win the next one. I’m behind our team and coaching staff all the way.
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So rather than allowing a coach who has made progress, and a program that is in a far better place than when Wojo came in continue to grow, you’d rather tear it down and start all over again?? That makes sense??
I’m frustrated as all get out too by the last few games, but to ignore the overall picture, albeit far from where I’d prefer it be, and call for starting over makes absolutely no sense to me. Always interesting to see how quickly “ “Fans” jump the ship.
So how long do you want to give him?? 15 years?? It's been 5 freaking years...5 VERY long years...now he has his "best" team he has had since he's been at MU, and we get these last 4 games of complete and utter garbage?? 4 chances...4 to win the BE and the didn't get it done, EVERY single time. Do you have ANY idea what the odds of a collapse like this happening were?? VERY VERY slim. yet, Wojo keeps saying "it's on me", and has done ZILCH to fix it...he has no freaking idea how, that's the problem.
The program is in a far better place then when he came in?? Oh really?? Okay, so if you are just going by Buzz's last year...maybe. But how soon we forget Buzz's teams were regular participants in the tourney, made Sweet 16's and Elite 8's...That was 7 years ago...so is the program really in a better spot then it was then(minus the one year)?? It's not even close...You guys that love Wojo are ridiculous...you obviously have very small expectations for the program...make the tourney once in awhile and that's okay, right?? His "best" team ever can't even win the BE regular season, in a very down year for the conference, after having 4 chances to do it, and you think he's doing a great job?? It's time for him to go...Sam, Markus...they are Seniors they won't leave...the roster turn over wouldn't be that significant I don't think. Bring in someone that can get this program back to it's rightful place and not take decades to do it, like it seemingly is going to take for Wojo. The admin is completely and utterly clueless that they like him so much...the expectations for the BB program are sadly low now from the higher ups..Gone are the days of Cords and Father Wild that wanted MU back in the Elite of college BB...now we have...this.
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Not to beat a dead horse......
Georgetown ran the "same set" the last 15 times they had the ball.....
What adjustments did we even "attempt" to make????
Just explain that.....Are we giving WOJO another year to learn how to "in-game" coach????
With all the missed free throws.....Bad plays.....etc......We still had a 8 point lead with about 5 minutes left....
Georgetown coaching outcoached MU coaching,,,,,,15 times in a row.,,,,..
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In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube
In the year 7510
If God's a coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day
In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down, and start again
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing
Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
QUIT PLAGIARIZING SH!T OFF THE INTERNET YOU CLEVERLESS A$$!!
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Not to beat a dead horse......
Georgetown ran the "same set" the last 15 times they had the ball.....
What adjustments did we even "attempt" to make????
Just explain that.....Are we giving WOJO another year to learn how to "in-game" coach????
With all the missed free throws.....Bad plays.....etc......We still had a 8 point lead with about 5 minutes left....
Georgetown coaching outcoached MU coaching,,,,,,15 times in a row.,,,,..
For better or worse, yes. It can’t be argued that he’s improved YOY as a coach albeit slower than we’d prefer. But if he continues on that trajectory combined with his established ability to recruit he can be a top tier coach. Here’s to hope
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muguru and burger.Where were you when MU was 23-4?MU is 23-8.Going to be a 5 or 6 seed in NCAA.Go cheer for another team if that is not good enough for you this year.The real MU fans do not need negative nellies like you.I support the players and coaches.It has been a good year and next year is looking better.
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muguru and burger.Where were you when MU was 23-4?MU is 23-8.Going to be a 5 or 6 seed in NCAA.Go cheer for another team if that is not good enough for you this year.The real MU fans do not need negative nellies like you.I support the players and coaches.It has been a good year and next year is looking better.
If you don’t think fans have a right to be disappointed you need to pull your head outya ass. Put the badge away sgt fakefan
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Get off your high horse nickeldimer.Disappointed is different than taking shots at players and coaches.Get a clue
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Get off your high horse nickeldimer.Disappointed is different than taking shots at players and coaches.Get a clue
Oh the irony. Just don’t give me that citation eh?
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muguru and burger.Where were you when MU was 23-4?MU is 23-8.Going to be a 5 or 6 seed in NCAA.Go cheer for another team if that is not good enough for you this year.The real MU fans do not need negative nellies like you.I support the players and coaches.It has been a good year and next year is looking better.
Guru has been here all season.
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Guru has been here all season.
Thank you...you're exactly right, I have been Frenns
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With all the missed free throws.....Bad plays.....etc......We still had a 8 point lead with about 5 minutes left....
We were down 3 with 5 minutes to go and lost by 2, FYI.
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Get off your high horse nickeldimer.Disappointed is different than taking shots at players and coaches.Get a clue
If you're a "real" fan because you think this was a "great" year...then I want no part of being a "real" fan. Seems to me a "real" fan would have higher, much higher expectations for a team(and program) with this much talent, shouldn't they?? They lost 6...6 games in a down BE...3 of them at home, to lessor teams...unacceptable by any measure.
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If you're a "real" fan because you think this was a "great" year...then I want no part of being a "real" fan. Seems to me a "real" fan would have higher, much higher expectations for a team(and program) with this much talent, shouldn't they?? They lost 6...6 games in a down BE...3 of them at home, to lessor teams...unacceptable by any measure.
I think the true "talent" level of this team is a little exaggerated.
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So how long do you want to give him?? 15 years?? It's been 5 freaking years...5 VERY long years...now he has his "best" team he has had since he's been at MU, and we get these last 4 games of complete and utter garbage?? 4 chances...4 to win the BE and the didn't get it done, EVERY single time. Do you have ANY idea what the odds of a collapse like this happening were?? VERY VERY slim. yet, Wojo keeps saying "it's on me", and has done ZILCH to fix it...he has no freaking idea how, that's the problem.
The program is in a far better place then when he came in?? Oh really?? Okay, so if you are just going by Buzz's last year...maybe. But how soon we forget Buzz's teams were regular participants in the tourney, made Sweet 16's and Elite 8's...That was 7 years ago...so is the program really in a better spot then it was then(minus the one year)?? It's not even close...You guys that love Wojo are ridiculous...you obviously have very small expectations for the program...make the tourney once in awhile and that's okay, right?? His "best" team ever can't even win the BE regular season, in a very down year for the conference, after having 4 chances to do it, and you think he's doing a great job?? It's time for him to go...Sam, Markus...they are Seniors they won't leave...the roster turn over wouldn't be that significant I don't think. Bring in someone that can get this program back to it's rightful place and not take decades to do it, like it seemingly is going to take for Wojo. The admin is completely and utterly clueless that they like him so much...the expectations for the BB program are sadly low now from the higher ups..Gone are the days of Cords and Father Wild that wanted MU back in the Elite of college BB...now we have...this.
A lecture from the guy who doesn't want others to lecture him. Thank you.
Yes, these last four games have been frustrating. I want the team to bounce back strong to wash the sour taste out of my mouth. A BET title or Sweet 16 would do it.
I look forward to an even better year next year and a strong recruiting class in 2020. This season is just the beginning, not the final destination.
Those are my expectations. I'm not trying to change the minds of any anti-Wojo crowd members because I know I won't. They can be as miserable as they want to be.
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A lecture from the guy who doesn't want others to lecture him. Thank you.
Yes, these last four games have been frustrating. I want the team to bounce back strong to wash the sour taste out of my mouth. A BET title or Sweet 16 would do it.
I look forward to an even better year next year and a strong recruiting class in 2020. This season is just the beginning, not the final destination.
Those are my expectations. I'm not trying to change the minds of any anti-Wojo crowd members because I know I won't. They can be as miserable as they want to be.
You are absolutely right. The beginning has started right now. We must forget the past 4 years, and the past 4 games and focus on now. Wojo deserves our support and accolades. I will be standing on that wall for and with him.
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Not to beat a dead horse......
Georgetown ran the "same set" the last 15 times they had the ball.....
What adjustments did we even "attempt" to make????
Just explain that.....Are we giving WOJO another year to learn how to "in-game" coach????
With all the missed free throws.....Bad plays.....etc......We still had a 8 point lead with about 5 minutes left....
Georgetown coaching outcoached MU coaching,,,,,,15 times in a row.,,,,..
0% of this is correct.
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You are absolutely right. The beginning has started right now. We must forget the past 4 years, and the past 4 games and focus on now. Wojo deserves our support and accolades. I will be standing on that wall for and with him.
Mods, I think Willie's account was hacked. ;D
Well said Willie. I never thought we'd agree on anything Marquette basketball related so color me surprised. But I welcome you to the Wojo wall!
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With all the missed free throws.....Bad plays.....etc......We still had a 8 point lead with about 5 minutes left....
Georgetown coaching outcoached MU coaching,,,,,,15 times in a row.,,,,..
fyi, Georgetown had a three point lead with 5 minutes remaining.
Actually, the largest MU lead over the final nine minutes was 3.
What a moron Ewing must be to have his team outscored by Wojo's squad over the final 5.
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The folks who have and continue to want Wojo gone remind me of fanbases at mid-low level SEC football programs.
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The folks who have and continue to want Wojo gone remind me of fanbases at mid-low level SEC football programs.
Auburn football fans stick out to me.
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muguru.We will have to agree to disagree.All that Markus Howard has done for Marquette University on and of the court and to see people on this board rip him is utterly ridiculous and very sad.Imagine his parents or a recruits parent reading those comments about Markus.That is a bad message to send about MU fan base.Regarding Wojo.It has been a good year.Been ranked most of the year and should have a decent seed in NCAA tourney.Sorry it has not met your expectations.
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do people even think before they post? how many consistently, highly successful college basketball coaches are cool, calm, collected, level headed, loose guys? i can think of 2 in my time as a college basketball fandom. brad stevens and tony bennett and some good its done tony and his team come march.
k, cal, roy, self, calhoun, donovan, boeheim. heck even our own in buzz and crean. all these guys really set the tone of calm looseness hey?
sheesh.
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do people even think before they post? how many consistently, highly successful college basketball coaches are cool, calm, collected, level headed, loose guys? i can think of 2 in my time as a college basketball fandom. brad stevens and tony bennett and some good its done tony and his team come march.
k, cal, roy, self, calhoun, donovan, boeheim. heck even our own in buzz and crean. all these guys really set the tone of calm looseness hey?
sheesh.
Rational thought during a losing streak is a rare commodity.
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0% of this is correct.
OK ......Did not want to go and revue that game.....
We had a 7 point lead at the 11:30 mark and earlier at the 17:36 mark......happy
Review the game tape as they closed it down to even at the 4ish minute mark and even "the announcers" say.....They keep on running the "same" play over and over again......High pick and roll with the 2 freshman....."If they can't stop it.....Just keep on running it"......and yes count......how many times did they run the "SAME" play over and over again.....
Might not have resulted in a basket.....or even a drive by one the freshman......And I did not say they scored 15 times in a row.....But that is the "set" they ran to initiate the offense.....
And we had no answer and no adjustment.....
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I didn't watch the replay. Why bother, I was there. Guessing Nick Bahe said it?
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muguru.We will have to agree to disagree.All that Markus Howard has done for Marquette University on and of the court and to see people on this board rip him is utterly ridiculous and very sad.Imagine his parents or a recruits parent reading those comments about Markus.That is a bad message to send about MU fan base.Regarding Wojo.It has been a good year.Been ranked most of the year and should have a decent seed in NCAA tourney.Sorry it has not met your expectations.
I agree with you 100%, personally ripping the kids is out of line IMO.
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I think the true "talent" level of this team is a little exaggerated.
I would agree.
The entire conference is down and we still have as good a chance as anyone to win the BE tournament.
I said before the season that 5 wins would win the Conference. Turns out it did. I thought there were no great teams and lots of OK ones. Meaning that the better teams would lose quite a few games.
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I remember being at games at the old Arena, and our Marquette coach being heckled by Marquette fans. That same coach once told me "never become a basketball coach." This statement came from a
man whos greatest passion was basketball. He eventually had enough of the negativity from the armchair coaches and went on to win another 461 games at other institutions. His name was Rick
Majerus and he was followed by Bob Dukeit.
Yup, we sure do love to drive our coaches away....tough when we compare them to once in a lifetime guys...but eventually people get sick of it.
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So how long do you want to give him?? 15 years?? It's been 5 freaking years...5 VERY long years...now he has his "best" team he has had since he's been at MU, and we get these last 4 games of complete and utter garbage?? 4 chances...4 to win the BE and the didn't get it done, EVERY single time. Do you have ANY idea what the odds of a collapse like this happening were?? VERY VERY slim. yet, Wojo keeps saying "it's on me", and has done ZILCH to fix it...he has no freaking idea how, that's the problem.
The program is in a far better place then when he came in?? Oh really?? Okay, so if you are just going by Buzz's last year...maybe. But how soon we forget Buzz's teams were regular participants in the tourney, made Sweet 16's and Elite 8's...That was 7 years ago...so is the program really in a better spot then it was then(minus the one year)?? It's not even close...You guys that love Wojo are ridiculous...you obviously have very small expectations for the program...make the tourney once in awhile and that's okay, right?? His "best" team ever can't even win the BE regular season, in a very down year for the conference, after having 4 chances to do it, and you think he's doing a great job?? It's time for him to go...Sam, Markus...they are Seniors they won't leave...the roster turn over wouldn't be that significant I don't think. Bring in someone that can get this program back to it's rightful place and not take decades to do it, like it seemingly is going to take for Wojo. The admin is completely and utterly clueless that they like him so much...the expectations for the BB program are sadly low now from the higher ups..Gone are the days of Cords and Father Wild that wanted MU back in the Elite of college BB...now we have...this.
You honestly think Wojo, a Duke graduate and multiple national champion as an asset coach doesn’t want to be elite.....my God.
Good OT see he helped recruit and develope an undersized teenager into the Big East player of the year in his fifth season.
Nice job Wojo
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Wojo has to set the team on fire. They have to start the game blazing. Get out of the gate quick. We have the horses to win out.
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Play calling out of time outs is solid, even today. Commitment to defensive principles finally took. Team was mentally tough until two weeks ago.
I think they need to get some rest for health/wear and tear. Hopefully they've been able to breathe and can pick up a confidence booster couple of wins in the BEast tourney. Get that feeling back and some really good things can happen.
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I think they need to get some rest for health/wear and tear. Hopefully they've been able to breathe and can pick up a confidence booster couple of wins in the BEast tourney. Get that feeling back and some really good things can happen.
I hate that excuse. Tons of teams have players playing 30+ minutes in every game. Why dont they mess up?
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Wojo has to set the team on fire. They have to start the game blazing. Get out of the gate quick. We have the horses to win out.
I would love to see that. Especially in what will probably be a road game. Set the tone early. But for some reason that hasn't exactly been our forte this year. A change of pace for March would be great!
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I hate that excuse. Tons of teams have players playing 30+ minutes in every game. Why dont they mess up?
They do, you just don't see it because you are hyperfocused on your team. Go to any other team's message board and most are griping about their team or specific players.
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They do, you just don't see it because you are hyperfocused on your team. Go to any other team's message board and most are griping about their team or specific players.
Yep. Every once in awhile, folks here put up posts from ButlerScoop or CreightonScoop or etc. And we laugh at how bat-shyte crazy they are, ripping their players and coach for perceived terrible-ness.
Everybody thinks their team is the best when it's going well, the worst when it's going bad. They think the refs are out to get their team. They think there are conspiracies against their team.
It's what we do. Hey, it's a living!
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Yep. The posts which appear above yours are from people with a right to express their opinions....but in the end, it is all just NOISE. Georgetown overcame a noisy building today...I suspect our guys and coaches will overcome this noisy fan environment as well. I’m betting they hear it, and I’m betting it actually fuels them in NYC and beyond. This 4-game skid has been tumultuous and brutal, but alas...it may just produce a perfect March storm.
Like I said....NOISE.
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He set quite a nice tone last night.
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In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube
In the year 7510
If God's a coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day
In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down, and start again
In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing
Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
Songwriters: Richard Lee Evans
One of the all time great one hit wonders. Zagger and Evans