Since the 0-9 at home against DePaul:
12.4 PPG
64.1% FG
73% 3-PT FG (I know but still fun)
Some of this has coincided with Joey's recent struggles and the 3 FG% is an aberration but he's been really solid offensively lately.
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I admit..I was pretty hard on him early in the year..but boy has he proven me wrong. He's been fantastic!
Sources say he's the worst 2 guard in the BEast BY FAR.
It's awesome how efficient hes been. Love it.
He ain't staying at 73%
But he's turned that corner 3 into a legit weapon
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 12, 2019, 11:13:29 PM
He ain't staying at 73%
But he's turned that corner 3 into a legit weapon
He hits 35% and it's huge.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 12, 2019, 11:17:20 PM
He hits 35% and it's huge.
Up to 38% with Chartouny at 36%. Both are capable.
His offense has been exactly what we have been missing. If Joey returns to form and Sacar keeps this up....
This is why next year's team could/should be even better. We only lose Chartouny and Heldt (hopefully) and we get McEwen and Elliott back (and hopefully a resolution to the Eke situation). We would have close to 175 minutes a game returning next year, plus a more experienced Joey, Theo, and Bailey.
I'm excited for the rest of this year but next year should be just as fun if not more, before we have to reload for 20-21. (Losing Howard, Sam, Anim, Morrow)
Quote from: MUMonster03 on February 13, 2019, 03:01:45 AM
This is why next year's team could/should be even better. We only lose Chartouny and Heldt (hopefully) and we get McEwen and Elliott back (and hopefully a resolution to the Eke situation). We would have close to 175 minutes a game returning next year, plus a more experienced Joey, Theo, and Bailey.
Don't forget Dexter.
Sacar has been balling out. Love it.
Sacar has become one of my favorite Warriors ... by far!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 13, 2019, 01:01:43 AM
His offense has been exactly what we have been missing. If Joey returns to form and Sacar keeps this up....
I'm totally making this up... but it seemed like he stopped trying to create off the bounce for awhile (problem could be there is only one ball). When he started focusing on getting to the hoop everything else has opened back up for him.
Sacar is a rarity in college basketball. After a lackluster freshman year, it would be easy to search for a team where his skillset is good enough for a more prominent role. It would be easy to blame the coach who doesn't give him the playing time he needs. Sacar did neither. He realized he needed to improve his game in order to be a contributor on his current team, taking the rare Sophomore redshirt. Now it is paying dividends. How many kids have that type of self-awareness in their late teens?
Quote from: 21rooster on February 13, 2019, 11:54:52 AM
Sacar is a rarity in college basketball. After a lackluster freshman year, it would be easy to search for a team where his skillset is good enough for a more prominent role. It would be easy to blame the coach who doesn't give him the playing time he needs. Sacar did neither. He realized he needed to improve his game in order to be a contributor on his current team, taking the rare Sophomore redshirt. Now it is paying dividends. How many kids have that type of self-awareness in their late teens?
I like this post a lot. Whether it was self-awareness or willingness to listen to sound advice -- or most likely a combo of both -- Sacar deserves a ton of credit for making a mature decision that helped both him and his team.
When he's especially "bouncy" on the court, as he has been the last few games, he reminds me of JJJ. Not as good a passer/creator but a better defender.
He's been huge the last few games. Solid 3rd or 4th scoring option when you need it
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It reminds me a little of Vander's junior year. He is starting to finish better at the hoop and is getting a midrange shot to fall. Also, he is a threat from 3. It really takes some pressure off Markus and the Haisers. He's also hit some clutch shots.
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 13, 2019, 11:40:13 AM
I'm totally making this up... but it seemed like he stopped trying to create off the bounce for awhile (problem could be there is only one ball). When he started focusing on getting to the hoop everything else has opened back up for him.
I thought the change started with Georgetown after he was the primary ballhandler for much of the game. He has seemed to be more involved since then. He had a couple down games after GT but then took off. Seems much more comfortable as part of the offense now.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 13, 2019, 01:16:33 PM
It reminds me a little of Vander's junior year. He is starting to finish better at the hoop and is getting a midrange shot to fall. Also, he is a threat from 3. It really takes some pressure off Markus and the Haisers. He's also hit some clutch shots.
It especially helps Stan Haiser.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 12, 2019, 11:03:08 PM
Since the 0-9 at home against DePaul:
12.4 PPG
64.1% FG
73% 3-PT FG (I know but still fun)
Some of this has coincided with Joey's recent struggles and the 3 FG% is an aberration but he's been really solid offensively lately.
In those 5 games, Sac's ORtg has been a ridiculous 131 (Sam 126 in the time period, Markus 118, Theo 115, Joey 103). Of course, relatively low usage at 15%, but very nice
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 13, 2019, 11:40:13 AM
I'm totally making this up... but it seemed like he stopped trying to create off the bounce for awhile (problem could be there is only one ball). When he started focusing on getting to the hoop everything else has opened back up for him.
Sacar uses this one move/play a couple of times a game: he gets the ball on the extended left elbow and then dribbles hard with his right hand in a curl move around at least two screens in the lane, driving all the way to the basket on the right, usually putting it in off the glass.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 13, 2019, 06:00:21 PM
Sacar uses this one move/play a couple of times a game: he gets the ball on the extended left elbow and then dribbles hard with his right hand in a curl move around at least two screens in the lane, driving all the way to the basket on the right, usually putting it in off the glass.
I call it the picket fence. Don't let the grass grow!
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 13, 2019, 05:53:52 PM
In those 5 games, Sac's ORtg has been a ridiculous 131 (Sam 126 in the time period, Markus 118, Theo 115, Joey 103). Of course, relatively low usage at 15%, but very nice
He's also leading the Big East in 3P% now for conference games only (48%)...
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 13, 2019, 06:00:21 PM
Sacar uses this one move/play a couple of times a game: he gets the ball on the extended left elbow and then dribbles hard with his right hand in a curl move around at least two screens in the lane, driving all the way to the basket on the right, usually putting it in off the glass.
I was just saying how surprised I am on the success of this play. I think SA is at least 9 of 10 on this drive. It's great. I can't believe the opposing team's 5 doesn't see this coming and get on the other side of Theo/Ed.
Quote from: Loose Cannon on February 13, 2019, 08:31:54 AM
Don't forget Dexter.
Feel like it is pretty likely he'll redshirt, or see very limited minutes if not.
Just imagine how good Sacar would be if he wasn't the worst!
BY FAR!
Quote from: MUMountin on February 13, 2019, 09:55:29 PM
Feel like it is pretty likely he'll redshirt, or see very limited minutes if not.
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I do not think any recruit comes in with the idea of redshirting, Dexter is no different, they expect to come in and play! Then maybe...
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 13, 2019, 09:12:00 PM
I was just saying how surprised I am on the success of this play. I think SA is at least 9 of 10 on this drive. It's great. I can't believe the opposing team's 5 doesn't see this coming and get on the other side of Theo/Ed.
We do run a lot of similar action where Sacar doesnt turn the corner and does a DHO with Markus or the Hausers. Probably just lulls the opponent to sleep and they are more focused on other guys.
Quote from: MUMountin on February 13, 2019, 09:55:29 PM
Feel like it is pretty likely he'll redshirt, or see very limited minutes if not.
I'm not going there, until I see him on the court at MU. Really not concerned with his current ranking, he has nice size 6-4 and sturdy at 200lb with a wingspan of 6-8 and playing at a very good BB school. Although he is a good tough defender he feels his offense is just as good.
In California last year Steve Nash selected Dexter to video a training film with him.
I just like to see if Dexter was under the Radar for many of the recruiting gurus. I'm not rushing to judgement on this guy.
Buzz offered, Buzz knows talent
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 13, 2019, 06:00:21 PM
Sacar uses this one move/play a couple of times a game: he gets the ball on the extended left elbow and then dribbles hard with his right hand in a curl move around at least two screens in the lane, driving all the way to the basket on the right, usually putting it in off the glass.
JjJ scored a lot of points off this play. Haanif got buckets starting from the right elbow. Apparently a staple.
Quote from: BCHoopster on February 13, 2019, 11:38:39 PM
Buzz offered, Buzz knows talent
Wojo doesn't?
Also, there's a long list of busts from Buzz's high school recruiting, so might want to rethink your position
Even before Sacar scored more, he was a very good fit for this team.
I've given Sand-Knit some crap (and deservedly so) for his dopey (and inaccurate) diatribe against Sacar, but I almost don't blame him. Lots of casual fans look at points, and when they don't see enough of them they assume a player isn't contributing enough.
Building a successful team is like putting together a puzzle. You don't need -- or even want -- every player to be an offensive machine. We had that in Rowsey, and the team result wasn't great because we couldn't play D. It wasn't Rowsey's "fault," he was who he was and we all knew that going in.
We have the best scorer in the Big East playing PG, so we needed a bigger, defensive-minded player at the 2. One could argue that an even bigger need was a true pass-first PG who could also play D so Markus wouldn't have to have the ball so much, but the Markus/Sacar pairing is working pretty darn well. Add in that we have a good (and sometimes great) scorer at the wing in Sam and another wing who can score (even if he's a freshman who might have hit the wall a bit), and again, it's perfect having a defense-first guy like Sacar.
That Sacar has stepped up his offense just as Joey has struggled ... that's been fantastic for the team. If you would have told Scoop before Nova that we'd get 4 points combined from the Hausers, many of us would have wondered if we'd lose by 25 or maybe only 15. But Sacar came through, outplaying Booth most of the game, Markus went off, and our defense did its job.
We won a BEast title (when the conference was much better) and went to the Elite Eight with a lineup that included Junior and Lockett; the former was far from a great PG and the latter was the subject of much Scoop ridicule for a couple months. But those guys fit well into how that team was built. By the time Ron Harper was in the backcourt alongside Jordan, he was a shell of the offensive player he had been before his knees got bad. Those threepeat Bulls started 3 guys who contributed little on offense.
I like the way our team is built -- a dynamic scorer who can take over any game, an outstanding all-around player who is capable of scoring 20-30, a wing with length who can hit 3s and do a little of everything, a rim-protector, a defense-first guard who also can slash to the basket and hit an open 3, a tough backup 5, a couple of other good role players on the bench. Few teams in the country have "puzzles" as well-put-together as that ... which is why we are one of the top 10.
And I love the way the puzzle piece named Sacar has embraced his role (and improved on it) to help make us legit contenders.
Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
Even before Sacar scored more, he was a very good fit for this team.
I've given Sand-Knit some crap (and deservedly so) for his dopey (and inaccurate) diatribe against Sacar, but I almost don't blame him. Lots of casual fans look at points, and when they don't see enough of them they assume a player isn't contributing enough.
Building a successful team is like putting together a puzzle. You don't need -- or even want -- every player to be an offensive machine. We had that in Rowsey, and the team result wasn't great because we couldn't play D. It wasn't Rowsey's "fault," he was who he was and we all knew that going in.
We have the best scorer in the Big East playing PG, so we needed a bigger, defensive-minded player at the 2. One could argue that an even bigger need was a true pass-first PG who could also play D so Markus wouldn't have to have the ball so much, but the Markus/Sacar pairing is working pretty darn well. Add in that we have a good (and sometimes great) scorer at the wing in Sam and another wing who can score (even if he's a freshman who might have hit the wall a bit), and again, it's perfect having a defense-first guy like Sacar.
That Sacar has stepped up his offense just as Joey has struggled ... that's been fantastic for the team. If you would have told Scoop before Nova that we'd get 4 points combined from the Hausers, many of us would have wondered if we'd lose by 25 or maybe only 15. But Sacar came through, outplaying Booth most of the game, Markus went off, and our defense did its job.
We won a BEast title (when the conference was much better) and went to the Elite Eight with a lineup that included Junior and Lockett; the former was far from a great PG and the latter was the subject of much Scoop ridicule for a couple months. But those guys fit well into how that team was built. By the time Ron Harper was in the backcourt alongside Jordan, he was a shell of the offensive player he had been before his knees got bad. Those threepeat Bulls started 3 guys who contributed little on offense.
I like the way our team is built -- a dynamic scorer who can take over any game, an outstanding all-around player who is capable of scoring 20-30, a wing with length who can hit 3s and do a little of everything, a rim-protector, a defense-first guard who also can slash to the basket and hit an open 3, a tough backup 5, a couple of other good role players on the bench. Few teams in the country have "puzzles" as well-put-together as that ... which is why we are one of the top 10.
And I love the way the puzzle piece named Sacar has embraced his role (and improved on it) to help make us legit contenders.
Great post.
Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
Even before Sacar scored more, he was a very good fit for this team.
I've given Sand-Knit some crap (and deservedly so) for his dopey (and inaccurate) diatribe against Sacar, but I almost don't blame him. Lots of casual fans look at points, and when they don't see enough of them they assume a player isn't contributing enough.
Building a successful team is like putting together a puzzle. You don't need -- or even want -- every player to be an offensive machine. We had that in Rowsey, and the team result wasn't great because we couldn't play D. It wasn't Rowsey's "fault," he was who he was and we all knew that going in.
We have the best scorer in the Big East playing PG, so we needed a bigger, defensive-minded player at the 2. One could argue that an even bigger need was a true pass-first PG who could also play D so Markus wouldn't have to have the ball so much, but the Markus/Sacar pairing is working pretty darn well. Add in that we have a good (and sometimes great) scorer at the wing in Sam and another wing who can score (even if he's a freshman who might have hit the wall a bit), and again, it's perfect having a defense-first guy like Sacar.
That Sacar has stepped up his offense just as Joey has struggled ... that's been fantastic for the team. If you would have told Scoop before Nova that we'd get 4 points combined from the Hausers, many of us would have wondered if we'd lose by 25 or maybe only 15. But Sacar came through, outplaying Booth most of the game, Markus went off, and our defense did its job.
We won a BEast title (when the conference was much better) and went to the Elite Eight with a lineup that included Junior and Lockett; the former was far from a great PG and the latter was the subject of much Scoop ridicule for a couple months. But those guys fit well into how that team was built. By the time Ron Harper was in the backcourt alongside Jordan, he was a shell of the offensive player he had been before his knees got bad. Those threepeat Bulls started 3 guys who contributed little on offense.
I like the way our team is built -- a dynamic scorer who can take over any game, an outstanding all-around player who is capable of scoring 20-30, a wing with length who can hit 3s and do a little of everything, a rim-protector, a defense-first guard who also can slash to the basket and hit an open 3, a tough backup 5, a couple of other good role players on the bench. Few teams in the country have "puzzles" as well-put-together as that ... which is why we are one of the top 10.
And I love the way the puzzle piece named Sacar has embraced his role (and improved on it) to help make us legit contenders.
Very well written 82. And let me add that the 9th and 10th men on the roster have embraced their role and have contributed mightily when called upon in limited opportunities, even as recently as Tuesday night when both were integral to our success.
Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
Even before Sacar scored more, he was a very good fit for this team.
I like the way our team is built -- a dynamic scorer who can take over any game, an outstanding all-around player who is capable of scoring 20-30, a wing with length who can hit 3s and do a little of everything, a rim-protector, a defense-first guard who also can slash to the basket and hit an open 3, a tough backup 5, a couple of other good role players on the bench. Few teams in the country have "puzzles" as well-put-together as that ... which is why we are one of the top 10.
And I love the way the puzzle piece named Sacar has embraced his role (and improved on it) to help make us legit contenders.
You really nailed it with this post. I've long felt Sacar's role on the team was vastly underrated and the criticism of his weaknesses ridiculously exaggerated. I can't say I foresaw the play we have seen lately, and who knows if it will continue to this level, but either way he is a key contributor to this team's success. He has truly proven to be a Swiss Army knife type player who displays a new tool you didn't know he had until we needed it. Couldn't be happier for him.
Props to Sacar for all the work he's put in - it's starting to pay off.
Quote from: StillWarriors on February 15, 2019, 09:45:18 AM
You really nailed it with this post. I've long felt Sacar's role on the team was vastly underrated and the criticism of his weaknesses ridiculously exaggerated. I can't say I foresaw the play we have seen lately, and who knows if it will continue to this level, but either way he is a key contributor to this team's success. He has truly proven to be a Swiss Army knife type player who displays a new tool you didn't know he had until we needed it. Couldn't be happier for him.
Here's my next hope. That some underclassman someday learns from the Sacar model. Don't quit and slink off to some downtrodden A-10 team. Work your arse off during a redshirt year and turn yourself into a 25-30 minute guy on a powerhouse. Honestly, that door might be open for Jamal. He literally could not ask for two better role models than Matty (for this year) and Sacar.
Quote from: jsglow on February 15, 2019, 09:52:08 AM
Here's my next hope. That some underclassman someday learns from the Sacar model. Don't quit and slink off to some downtrodden A-10 team. Work your arse off during a redshirt year and turn yourself into a 25-30 minute guy on a powerhouse. Honestly, that door might be open for Jamal. He literally could not ask for two better role models than Matty (for this year) and Sacar.
It all depends on the kid and what they want. I never blame a kid for wanting to play, even if that means transferring to a mid major. They've worked really hard to get to D1 basketball and using up 1 or 2 years of eligibility riding bench has to be tough. If they're fine playing a smaller role for a better team, more power to them.