Brad Davidson (Uw-madison player) drew 5 charges vs NC State. In all seriousness, I'm not sure any of them were charges. Hard to beat anyone when you're playing 8 vs 5. Here's hoping Howard torches him again this year.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on November 27, 2018, 10:36:43 PM
Brad Davidson (Uw-madison player) drew 5 charges vs NC State. In all seriousness, I'm not sure any of them were charges. Hard to beat anyone when you're playing 8 vs 5. Here's hoping Howard torches him again this year.
Happ flopped pretty bad too in the final minutes under the basket. Got nudged in the shoulder and acted like he was hit by a truck. Gave them the ball back.
I don't think I've ever despised an opposing player more than him. Everything he does just seems... cheap, overly calculated, irritating.
I can't wait to send him home with a big fat L next weekend.
Wojo better take note of Floperson
ESPN put together a montage of all four. I am no expert, but two of them look like good defense by Davison. The other two including the game winner....sure looked like Davison was sliding his feet and just fell over at first sign of contact.
Sitting in a pub 100 miles south of Perth, Australia and they have the game (delayed) on TV. Frikken rodents are everywhere.
He's easily the most unlikeable player since Frank
I have no idea what UW is going to do without Happ next year. I'm sure they will find something, but they run absolutely everything through him.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 28, 2018, 07:59:45 AM
I have no idea what UW is going to do without Happ next year. I'm sure they will find something, but they run absolutely everything through him.
Did NC State double him last night? I think the key to beating Wisconsin is having a defender take him one on one. That's what Virginia did because he's so good at passing out of the post. Throw bodies and fouls at him. Wear him out physically and make him beat you on his own.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 28, 2018, 08:10:56 AM
Did NC State double him last night? I think the key to beating Wisconsin is having a defender take him one on one. That's what Virginia did because he's so good at passing out of the post. Throw bodies and fouls at him. Wear him out physically and make him beat you on his own.
Was just saying that to my friend last night. Ed and Theo are strong enough to hold their own without the auto double.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 28, 2018, 08:14:29 AM
Was just saying that to my friend last night. Ed and Theo are strong enough to hold their own without the auto double.
I wouldn't discount Heldt either. Matt played him well in Madison last year.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 28, 2018, 08:15:55 AM
I wouldn't discount Heldt either. Matt played him well in Madison last year.
Agreed.
I joked in the off-season about Happ as a grad transfer point guard, but currently he's #11 in the country in assist rate, averaging over 5 apg. From 3, UW's 43.8% on threes translates to a 65.7 eFG% when Happ is passing out of the post to open shooters, but he's only at 55.9% shooting 2s and 50% from the line, so you're statistically better off making him beat you. He'll put up monster numbers but I think you're more likely to come out with a W.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 28, 2018, 08:10:56 AM
Did NC State double him last night? I think the key to beating Wisconsin is having a defender take him one on one. That's what Virginia did because he's so good at passing out of the post. Throw bodies and fouls at him. Wear him out physically and make him beat you on his own.
Agreed, I think the KU game (1H) was almost the blueprint. No layups, make him earn it at the FT line (not a good FT shooter like Azubuike), Theo/Ed/Matt use all 5 fouls. But single cover him, I don't think anyone else on that team can beat us consistently without getting free from a double down
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on November 28, 2018, 08:55:09 AM
Agreed, I think the KU game (1H) was almost the blueprint. No layups, make him earn it at the FT line (not a good FT shooter like Azubuike), Theo/Ed/Matt use all 5 fouls. But single cover him, I don't think anyone else on that team can beat us consistently without getting free from a double down
This right here is the key. I fully expect two of three of them to foul out but they need to be smart fouls. We can't have Ed throwing out frustration fouls. Extremely physical but smart defense
Hey, you guys know we have Happ kryptonite on this team right?
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/wisconsin-badger-forward-ethan-happ-steals-the-ball-away-from-golden-picture-id888938106)
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 28, 2018, 08:15:55 AM
I wouldn't discount Heldt either. Matt played him well in Madison last year.
We swill see. Remember Happ has 3 or 4 inches on ED.....and Matt and Theo had double team help quite often last year because UW was a terrible 3 point shooting team.
This season they are hitting 43% of their 3 points shots.......Trice is hitting 60%!
No real good options......Happ is a load in the post....he turned it over a lot against us last season and had 5 last night so there is that.
Would love to get him in foul trouble.
We need to keep Happ at least 8' out from the basket. He's a lame shooter when kept outside.
Timely.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/11/28/18116114/brad-davison-charges-wisconsin-nc-state-video-flop?src=rss
Quote from: skianth16 on November 27, 2018, 10:44:46 PM
I don't think I've ever despised an opposing player more than him. Everything he does just seems... cheap, overly calculated, irritating.
I can't wait to send him home with a big fat L next weekend.
U ever hurd of Kelly Tripucka, hey?
Quote from: Oldgym on November 28, 2018, 11:56:05 AM
Timely.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/11/28/18116114/brad-davison-charges-wisconsin-nc-state-video-flop?src=rss
He's freaking terrible. If I'm Wojo, I talk to the refs right at the outset to watch his feet. He's rarely set when he gets those calls.
When each starter goes over to shake each refs hand during introductions they should say "watch for the flops". 15 reminders. Of course it could backfire by pissing off the refs. If Breeding is the ref, he would probably call 5 technicals and UW would start off with a 10 point lead before the game tips.
Quote from: MUEng92 on November 28, 2018, 12:13:43 PM
When each starter goes over to shake each refs hand during introductions they should say "watch for the flops". 15 reminders. Of course it could backfire by pissing off the refs. If Breeding is the ref, he would probably call 5 technicals and UW would start off with a 10 point lead before the game tips.
Not if Happ has to shoot them 😂
Guys, can we please keep the focus on Kansas State?
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 28, 2018, 11:59:24 AM
He's freaking terrible. If I'm Wojo, I talk to the refs right at the outset to watch his feet. He's rarely set when he gets those calls.
What happened to the start and stop on floppers? Are they caliing that a foul now? Remember coaches simply telling ballhandlers to get close then stop dead. Possibilites:
1. Defense flops and you can drive by
2. Defense flops cannot drive by but it looks awful to ref giving them less chance of getting call later
3. Defense does not bite and you pass the ball.
They must be calling the start and stop a foul now. Or the Davidson's of the world are too good and never fall for it?
Could be referees have short memories. With articles like the one above, word will get around on Davison and he will start getting blocking calls on those, maybe even on legitimate charges.
Personal Fouls: 24 v. 12. What a joke
Quote from: HammerScreen on November 28, 2018, 01:16:40 PM
Personal Fouls: 24 v. 12. What a joke
Very poor way of determining how fair the refereeing is in a particular game.
Is it just me or does Davison look like Charlie Brown?
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Quote from: Oldgym on November 28, 2018, 11:56:05 AM
Timely.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/11/28/18116114/brad-davison-charges-wisconsin-nc-state-video-flop?src=rss
I'd give him the charge on that second one in the montage, since it looked like the offensive player pushed off with his arm. The rest of them are flops.
As ugly as this is, if he's spending a lot of time guarding Markus next weekend, Markus really needs to watch the off-arm push he kept doing in the Louisville game. Davison will flail every time, and it could get Markus in foul trouble and/or get him out of his rhythm.
Davison doesn't just flail. He jumps backward like he's been shot out of a cannon.
Quote from: skianth16 on November 28, 2018, 02:12:49 PM
As ugly as this is, if he's spending a lot of time guarding Markus next weekend, Markus really needs to watch the off-arm push he kept doing in the Louisville game. Davison will flail every time, and it could get Markus in foul trouble and/or get him out of his rhythm.
This is a good point, but it also works both ways. Refs are a lot less likely to believe his flops, if he's guarding a 5'-11" 175lb player. His size contributes to the amount of times that Markus gets away with it.
I caught the last 8 minutes of the game last night. Impressive D by Davison. He reminds me of a young Duke PG from the late '90s. Having trouble with the name but it was long and he was annoying and called a flopper.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 28, 2018, 02:25:58 PM
I caught the last 8 minutes of the game last night. Impressive D by Davison. He reminds me of a young Duke PG from the late '90s. Having trouble with the name but it was long and he was annoying and called a flopper.
Wojo may have flopped but he got his feet set at least.
You don't need your feet set to take a charge.
But when Wisconsin fans are calling out their own player for flopping like they were last year, you know it's an issue.
It isn't like this is something new for a Wisconsin player. We've been complaining about that forever.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 28, 2018, 02:25:58 PM
I caught the last 8 minutes of the game last night. Impressive D by Davison. He reminds me of a young Duke PG from the late '90s. Having trouble with the name but it was long and he was annoying and called a flopper.
Greg Paulus. You're thinking of Greg Paulus.
*shudder*
Quote from: Oldgym on November 28, 2018, 11:56:05 AM
Timely.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/11/28/18116114/brad-davison-charges-wisconsin-nc-state-video-flop?src=rss
That's seriously embarrassing. Not sure how you can feel good about yourself when you rely on that to make plays
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 28, 2018, 07:31:38 PM
That's seriously embarrassing. Not sure how you can feel good about yourself when you rely on that to make plays
I'm sure UW fans are ok with it. They are more educated and understand that it is ok. And it's a W. But he also got ripped on multiple ESPN shows today.
Quote from: fjm on November 28, 2018, 08:03:08 PM
I'm sure UW fans are ok with it. They are more educated and understand that it is ok. And it's a W. But he also got ripped on multiple ESPN shows today.
The fact that his flopping made the final segment of Around the Horn today made me smile. Everyone sees it!
Would love to see Theo knock the rodent "Charlie Brown" hard to the ground.
"Have some self-respect...view yourself as an actual real live basketball player"
Love it. That could make a great sign in the student section.
https://twitter.com/HIGHNOONonESPN/status/1067893581002809371 (https://twitter.com/HIGHNOONonESPN/status/1067893581002809371)
Also enjoyed a couple of the comments further down the page:
Brandon Dean Price @BrandonDPrice
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT YOU DON'T LIKE BADGER BASKETBALL
Connor Tearney @ctHolla
Well no one "likes" badger basketball.
I liked it better when they stunk last year.
It's gonna take a hell of an effort for MU to win next weekend.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 30, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
I liked it better when they stunk last year.
It's gonna take a hell of an effort for MU to win next weekend.
They are a tough team this year. Look to be back to a tourney lock and top half of the Big 14 team.
Next weekend will be a tough game.
Agree they are back to being good.
I think we win next weekend. We have more size and quickness at 4 of 5 positions
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on November 30, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
Agree they are back to being good.
I think we win next weekend. We have more size and quickness at 4 of 5 positions
We do?
Happ is certainly quicker then our center. Trice is as tall and quick as Markus. Iverson quicker then Sam. Reuvers bigger then Joey. Davidson probably as quick as whoever is playing the 2 for us.....unless it's Markus.
They are playing a lot more small ball this season surrounding Happ with 4 guards in those lineups.....those matchups can go either way as we know.....Iowa had more size today and still lost. UW made 59% of their 2 pointers tonight.
Most UW MU games are grind it out ugly affairs.
MU is going to need to shoot it better then Iowa did from 3. Trice is playing out of his friggin mind so far this year.
I expected Wisky to be better this season. I don't think they are as good as their record indicates at the moment. Still think they are a top 30-45 type team. Trice has to come back down to Earth eventually.
Yeah I don't get the idea that we are quicker than UW is.
Iowa is also extremely overrated at this point. They are more of a bubble team than a top 15 team. Bucky's wins is still impressive, but not as impressive as it may seem at the moment.
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 30, 2018, 09:48:32 PM
Yeah I don't get the idea that we are quicker than UW is.
Eh. I think we are clearly quicker at the 1,2 and 4. Quicker at the 3 when Ford is in. I'll admit I overlooked Iverson and he is quicker than our 3s. Happy obviously quicker than our 5s.
Concur that we need to shoot better than Iowa did.
I fully expect to take the L next weekend. Just being realistic.
Quote from: NickelDimer on December 01, 2018, 07:19:09 AM
I fully expect to take the L next weekend. Just being realistic.
Not so fast!
Trice will eventually regress to the mean (hopefully against us)
M2N will progress to the mean
15 fouls against a 50% FT shooter
McFlopperson has been exposed
Joey and Sam will want to prove something to the vadge
We got this!
Quote from: Slim on December 01, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
Not so fast!
Trice will eventually regress to the mean (hopefully against us)
M2N will progress to the mean
15 fouls against a 50% FT shooter
McFlopperson has been exposed
Joey and Sam will want to prove something to the vadge
We got this!
I like the positivity. I just think it's a bad matchup for us. Of the KSU, Buffalo and UW games I'm the least confident of the UW game. Unfortunately that's the one I'd most want to win!
Quote from: NickelDimer on December 01, 2018, 11:49:50 AM
I like the positivity. I just think it's a bad matchup for us. Of the KSU, Buffalo and UW games I'm the least confident of the UW game. Unfortunately that's the one I'd most want to wi !
I gotcha fam!