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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: PaintTouches on May 24, 2018, 01:42:54 PM

Title: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: PaintTouches on May 24, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
The Sam Hauser slander (by omission) is killing me this offseason. Time to put some respeck on his name.

https://painttouches.com/2018/05/24/stop-sleeping-on-sam-hauser/ (https://painttouches.com/2018/05/24/stop-sleeping-on-sam-hauser/)
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: brewcity77 on May 24, 2018, 02:47:33 PM
Good article with one notable caveat. There is no slander in any of the Twitter statements or published articles you refer to. Slander refers only to false spoken statements. As these are written statements, it has to be considered libel. I always think of it as "S" is for spoken and slander, "L" is for literature and libel.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on May 25, 2018, 09:27:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XscaGDxuQqE
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: PaintTouches on May 25, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 24, 2018, 02:47:33 PM
Good article with one notable caveat. There is no slander in any of the Twitter statements or published articles you refer to. Slander refers only to false spoken statements. As these are written statements, it has to be considered libel. I always think of it as "S" is for spoken and slander, "L" is for literature and libel.

There's no slander or libel, I'm just a sucker for alliteration. Forgive me. 
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: MUCam on May 25, 2018, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: pux90mex on May 25, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
There's no slander or libel, I'm just a sucker for alliteration. Forgive me.

I think you just defamed yourself.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 27, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on May 25, 2018, 09:27:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XscaGDxuQqE

Did MU basketball's deep throat just come out of the closet?
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: Class71 on May 27, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
Back to the issue. Should Sam be on the 1st team?  I love seeing Marcus on the list but Sam does more than shoot the ball well from distance. Passing, defense, low turnover rate and rebounding needs to be factored in. Sam is not flashy but maybe that is why he is so good. He is a team player.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: Jay Bee on May 28, 2018, 09:16:37 AM
Quote from: Class71 on May 27, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
Back to the issue. Should Sam be on the 1st team?  I love seeing Marcus on the list but Sam does more than shoot the ball well from distance. Passing, defense, low turnover rate and rebounding needs to be factored in. Sam is not flashy but maybe that is why he is so good. He is a team player.

A look at usage and %Shots...

Markus 28.8% / 32.7%
Ponds 32.0% / 32.6%
Spellman 17.8% / 19.8% (as a freshman with great teammates)
Govan 24.8% / 28.3%
Powell 21.9% / 24.2%

Sam... 18.1% / 20.8%

The question is where do you project Sam for 2018-19... I'd like to see 22% / 24%... will he get there? If so, he's probably in. If not, there's a reasonable "low-usage" argument for him being out.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: Jockey on May 28, 2018, 10:38:36 AM
I laughed when I read the article last week.

I think this guy may have a Hauser complex. He didn't mention Joey with the Newcomers, either.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: brewcity77 on May 28, 2018, 11:31:15 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 28, 2018, 09:16:37 AM
A look at usage and %Shots...

Markus 28.8% / 32.7%
Ponds 32.0% / 32.6%
Spellman 17.8% / 19.8% (as a freshman with great teammates)
Govan 24.8% / 28.3%
Powell 21.9% / 24.2%

Sam... 18.1% / 20.8%

The question is where do you project Sam for 2018-19... I'd like to see 22% / 24%... will he get there? If so, he's probably in. If not, there's a reasonable "low-usage" argument for him being out.

One of the questions will be where he can maintain his efficiency. Last year he increased both his usage and efficiency. That will be tough to do again. I think 22/24 would make him likely first team, even with a slight dip in efficiency. 24/26 would probably get him into the BEPOY/National All-American conversation. If he can push those numbers into the 28-30 range, he's a national POY candidate. Though making the jump from where he was at to that type of usage is probably more realistic for his senior year.
Title: Re: [Paint Touches] #SamStanSZN
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 28, 2018, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: Jockey on May 28, 2018, 10:38:36 AM
I laughed when I read the article last week.

I think this guy may have a Hauser complex. He didn't mention Joey with the Newcomers, either.

It seems that Joey got lost between last year and this year.  When he matriculated in January, he was reclassified to 2017, so he is no longer included in the 2018 lists of top players (all the guys who moved up a notch as a result say thank-you).  Technically he will begin this season as a redshirt freshman, not a newcomer.  Same with Brendan, who was counted as part of Marquette's 2016 class (although he will be a regular freshman).  With these "forgotten boys" + Morrow and Chartouny, I don't think the rest of the Big East will know what hit them.
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