1. Sloppy. So so so so sloppy.
2. Rowsey played like he was still not over crying from last week. So bad.
3. Sam's hip is so sore. If the hip surgery is what it is reputed to be, it is amazing he is out there.
4. Cain was so active defensively. And so weak with the ball. Envisioning him 20 lbs stronger.
5. The announcers sure played up the freshman angle.
6. And the Duke point guards as coaches.
7. Maybe there is something to that shooting background thing. MU missed so many shots they usually make.
8. MU's defense was the best it has been in a long time. Disrupted passing lanes. Deflections, steals, turnovers, charges.
9. MU won't beat Oregon if neither Sam nor Jamal plays. And Marquette will lose big.
10. Fun stat. Against teams that are not 1 or 2 seeds in the NCAA tournament, MU is 20-7. Against teams that are not 1-2 seeds in the NCAA tournament, MU is 20-7. 20-6 against all teams that aren't 1-2 seeds. 0-6 against Villanova, Xavier, Purdue. Throw in the 4 seed Wichita State.
11. Need a transfer PG for next year. Could have used one this year.
Surprised you could find 11 topics after that horrible game.
12. Have to think Harry is gone when the tents folds up this season.
That was a tough watch, that last 90 seconds was Ugly. Capital U intended.
Also, did those announcers win some contest or something to announce that game? What the hell was that?
Brutal game to watch. Any way they can just forfeit the next one and regroup next season?
Do not forget the point guard play by our 3 point "shooting stars".
Really crummy game. Thought we could take this thing, but the team is beat up and already looks defeated. Hauser hurt, Cain hurt, Elliott hurt, Froling might as well just head back to Australia now. I think Oregon comes in and puts us out of our misery.
Quote from: peterpan on March 14, 2018, 08:13:03 PM
Brutal game to watch. Any way they can just forfeit the next one and regroup next season?
I thought Oregon was bad???
> 7. Maybe there is something to that shooting background thing. MU missed so many shots they usually make.
Don't they practice at the Al (they did when I was there, not sure if that's still the case)? They should be hitting more of their shots if anything.
Agreed. But MU got everything they wanted out of their offense in the first half and made squat.
Let's hope that anyone who still harbored the thought that Markus would be our PG next year has been disabused of that notion. Could not believe that he was "credited" with only 4 TO's. His uncle must have been doing the stats - he had 3 in a minute. We need PG help BADDDDDDD!
A tough watch. Almost a non-event. Continue in this fugue and Oregon will waltz.
Did anyone notice Sams hip before the thread on scoop about his pending surgery? I don't remember any comments about it 2 weeks ago, but now it's popping up all over.
I am thinking more and more that Harry is gone after this season.
To be an optimist, we got great shots. We hit like we normally do, and we roll through this one, never seeing the ugliness of the final minutes.
Defense was surprisingly good.
Clean up the turnovers, get healthy, hit the shots we normally hit, and we're in good shape against Oregon. Without those...see you next year.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 14, 2018, 08:22:35 PM
Did anyone notice Sams hip before the thread on scoop about his pending surgery? I don't remember any comments about it 2 weeks ago, but now it's popping up all over.
It was mentioned first several weeks ago that he had injured it. Like, late January ish. It has clearly not gotten better.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 14, 2018, 08:22:35 PM
Did anyone notice Sams hip before the thread on scoop about his pending surgery? I don't remember any comments about it 2 weeks ago, but now it's popping up all over.
It's pretty clearly a hip injury from watching him Him. He only played a handful of 2H minutes, and almost not at all in the 4th.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 14, 2018, 08:22:56 PM
I am thinking more and more that Harry is gone after this season.
After that 4 game stretch of a couple DNP's and limited appearances in the other 2, I thought he's gone. Just seems inevitable.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 14, 2018, 08:22:56 PM
I am thinking more and more that Harry is gone after this season.
You think? I would almost bank it. Kid has two DNPs in a row and game before that played three minutes and had three fouls. Prior, he played two minutes, three minutes and another two DNPs. Shame, but will maybe add another grad guard surely needed.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 14, 2018, 08:22:56 PM
I am thinking more and more that Harry is gone after this season.
Ya think, Mate?
Quote from: skianth16 on March 14, 2018, 08:22:35 PM
Did anyone notice Sams hip before the thread on scoop about his pending surgery? I don't remember any comments about it 2 weeks ago, but now it's popping up all over.
Yes. For two months prior.
Quote from: hepennypacker5000 on March 14, 2018, 08:17:17 PM
> 7. Maybe there is something to that shooting background thing. MU missed so many shots they usually make.
Don't they practice at the Al (they did when I was there, not sure if that's still the case)? They should be hitting more of their shots if anything.
No they practice in the basement, no stands
Ugly, ugly, ugly game. Both teams were brutal to watch. Good news, our brutal was less disturbing than Harvard.
I mean if Harry was staying, there'd be no better time for him to get minutes than in this tournament.
Quote from: Goose on March 14, 2018, 08:37:11 PM
Ugly, ugly, ugly game. Both teams were brutal to watch. Good news, our brutal was less disturbing than Harvard.
Harvard had two of their best players out. We stunk, period.
Glad Harvard was without their best player and Ivy League POY. Suspect we would have lost if that kid was playing.
http://jsonline.sportsdirectinc.com/basketball/ncaab-boxscores.aspx?page=/data/NCAAB/results/2017-2018/boxscore992611.html
Box. Glad MU made their FT's. And that Harvard struggled. Fortuitous.
We were up 19 and running away with it until we just stopped playing our game.
One other thing...Does anyone know the NIT rules..I must have.missed the 25 times they showed the graphic
Quote from: lawdog77 on March 14, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
We were up 19 and running away with it until we just stopped playing our game.
One other thing...Does anyone know the NIT rules..I must have.missed the 25 times they showed the graphic
Couldn't tell. Graphic was too small.
Defense was good for the first 35 minutes. For all those complaining about how poor we played, yes we played bad, but Sam's hurt, Greg's hurt, Jamal's hurt, and Markus' hurt, this was never gonna be a blow out even with Harvard's best player out. Freshman get at least one more game before they're sophomores, can only be seen as a good thing. No such thing as a bad win in March.
Saw some encouraging things.
Despite the poor offensive showing in the first half, we led by 5 or 6 with our best defensive showing in recent memory. Held our opponent to just 21 points.
The isolation man-to-man defense, help man-to-man defense and hedging (both Matt and Theo) looked about as good as they did all season. Forced 20+ turnovers. Seemed to be communicating, rebounding well, active in the passing lanes and scrambling for loose balls.
If you were at the game, the Al McGuire Center was rocking during the 3rd quarter when we built the lead up to 17. Strong all-around team play. That pretty much decided the game.
Yes, total breakdown by Andrew, Markus and company at the end. But we hung on and got the win. In the postseason, ugly doesn't matter. Advancing does.
There was nothing about that that was enjoyable. The third quarter run was just a relief. Good Lord do we need someone that can handle the ball.
Quote from: connie on March 14, 2018, 09:17:43 PM
There was nothing about that that was enjoyable. The third quarter run was just a relief. Good Lord do we need someone that can handle the ball.
We need someone other than Markus. There's no question about that. He seems so calm taking big shots, but he just falls apart mentally bringing the ball up under any pressure. For being such a good player, his struggles handling the ball are so confusing. Is it more mental, or is it an actual skill deficiency?
Honestly, the game didn't bother me that much. Seemed like a case of a team taking the foot off the gas pedal a little too early. We were up 19 with what, 8 minutes left? Never felt like we were in danger of losing.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 14, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
We need someone other than Markus. There's no question about that. He seems so calm taking big shots, but he just falls apart mentally bringing the ball up under any pressure. For being such a good player, his struggles handling the ball are so confusing. Is it more mental, or is it an actual skill deficiency?
Short, bad decision maker, small hands, poor ball handler, poor length, doesnt pivot, doesnt pass fake. That about sums it up
++ Midway through the 4Q, I turned to my wife and said, "This is one boring basketball game. If you aren't a Marquette fan, you stopped watching this one a long time ago. Or you never started."
++ Warriors should shut Sam down. This simply isn't important enough to send him out there at half-strength. Not fair to him, either. Same is true of Jamal if he's as hurt as he looked limping off the court.
++ Too loose with the basketball. The announcers were just talking about how young our players are and how TOs happen, and then our 36-year-old PG committed 2 straight bonehead turnovers.
++ We have suffered through some bad announcers on FS1 and one Hiroshima of an announcer a few times (Dickey), but these guys were really, really, REALLY bad. My favorite was when the analyst said our guards were from "the island of Lilliputia."
++ Cain is a disruptive defender and I look forward to him being stronger and more experienced.
++ Markus played hard, scored 22 and even made a few defensive plays, but he had way too many silly decisions with the ball and bad passes. Yes, we need at least one PG next season. (And I agree with those who say 2 would be even better.)
++ One of Heldt's best games in a Marquette uniform. Best big man on the court all night long - haven't been able to say that too often. Obviously, some of that had to do with the opponent, but he really has improved since he was all-but-benched for a few games.
++ I liked most of the rule changes ... although it was difficult to remember what they were because ESPN only put them up on the screen 406 times.
++ It's one thing to put crud on the screen during free throws or other stoppages. This crew kept doing it during live action. On one occasion, we had a fast break and they zoomed out to take up half the screen with crapola.
++ Plus, the graphics looked like they were drawn up by an 8th grader. I guess that's what you get in the NIT!
++ Harry Froling, we hardly knew ye ...
Look on the bright side... MU's FT defense made some huge strides tonight.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2018, 09:44:36 PM
Honestly, the game didn't bother me that much. Seemed like a case of a team taking the foot off the gas pedal a little too early. We were up 19 with what, 8 minutes left? Never felt like we were in danger of losing.
Worst game I have watched in a bit. Thank God Harvard was short handed.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 14, 2018, 11:05:02 PM
Worst game I have watched in a bit. Thank God Harvard was short handed.
Because we were at full strength?
Seriously this is not an excuse. It's not now for Harvard, and it shouldn't be Sunday for us if we lose. Nobody is 100% healthy at this point in the season.
Quote from: Its DJOver on March 14, 2018, 11:08:57 PM
Because we were at full strength?
Seriously this is not an excuse. It's not now for Harvard, and it shouldn't be Sunday for us if we lose. Nobody is 100% healthy at this point in the season.
Eh, conference POY not playing is a little different than us being banged up. It wasn't our best effort but we won. Survive and advance.
Sam not being on the floor to break the press hurt. Kinda like Katin last year.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 14, 2018, 11:55:15 PM
Sam not being on the floor to break the press hurt. Kinda like Katin last year.
Bingo. There's a lot of complaining in this thread about Markus' turnovers, but a whole bunch of those happened in the last five minutes when Harvard was pressing and Sam was out. Our best press break all season has been using Sam around mid-court as the outlet. Without Sam, we didn't know how to break the press, leading to the TOs. It wasn't entirely MH's fault.
That said, we still absolutely need another guard or two next year. To have more centers (4- Heldt, Theo, Harry, Ike) than total guards (3- Markus, Greg, Sacar) is troubling.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 14, 2018, 11:50:04 PM
Eh, conference POY not playing is a little different than us being banged up. It wasn't our best effort but we won. Survive and advance.
The point I'm trying to make is that all the whining around here that we would have lost if they were healthy is ridiculous. I'm sure the POT in the Ivy is good, but since I've never seen him play I think saying Sam is better is a safe bet.
We don't blow teams out, we're just not good enough. Anyone that was expecting a blow out likely hasn't watched us play all year.
If there is some magical rule that you have to wait until teams are fully healthy before you play then in a post season tournament, I would really like to go back and re live the amigos senior year when they delayed the tournament 6 weeks waiting for dom to heal.
If sam is down for the year and Jamal is injured do we turn to Joey if Sacar has fouled out?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
If sam is down for the year and Jamal is injured do we turn to Joey if Sacar has fouled out?
Teal?
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 14, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
Saw some encouraging things.
Despite the poor offensive showing in the first half, we led by 5 or 6 with our best defensive showing in recent memory. Held our opponent to just 21 points.
The isolation man-to-man defense, help man-to-man defense and hedging (both Matt and Theo) looked about as good as they did all season. Forced 20+ turnovers. Seemed to be communicating, rebounding well, active in the passing lanes and scrambling for loose balls.
If you were at the game, the Al McGuire Center was rocking during the 3rd quarter when we built the lead up to 17. Strong all-around team play. That pretty much decided the game.
Yes, total breakdown by Andrew, Markus and company at the end. But we hung on and got the win. In the postseason, ugly doesn't matter. Advancing does.
Our defense was good for us, I guess, but mostly they missed a ton of wide open 3s.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
If sam is down for the year and Jamal is injured do we turn to Joey if Sacar has fouled out?
It's selfish of Joey to sit out the NIT. A true teammate would be out there.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
If sam is down for the year and Jamal is injured do we turn to Joey if Sacar has fouled out?
Um, no. The pecking order after that is Harry, Cam and then Lelito in that order.
Quote from: Bocephys on March 15, 2018, 08:51:54 AM
It's selfish of Joey to sit out the NIT. A true teammate would be out there.
I don't know how injures like that heal, if we only needed him for press breaks at the end of games I figured it was worth asking
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:57:39 AM
I don't know how injures like that heal, if we only needed him for press breaks at the end of games I figured it was worth asking
You want to burn his redshirt, and an entire year of eligibility, for the NIT????
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:57:39 AM
I don't know how injures like that heal, if we only needed him for press breaks at the end of games I figured it was worth asking
They're taking it super slow with this rehab to make sure he heals properly. I don't think he's really even running yet.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:57:39 AM
I don't know how injures like that heal, if we only needed him for press breaks at the end of games I figured it was worth asking
They're not going to burn a year of Joey for a generally meaningless NIT game.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 15, 2018, 09:03:41 AM
They're not going to burn a year of Joey for a generally meaningless NIT game.
I thought they didn't think he was going to be here all four years anyways? I'm not seriously asking this, just wondering if there was some odd chance that'd happen.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 09:18:46 AM
I thought they didn't think he was going to be here all four years anyways? I'm not seriously asking this, just wondering if there was some odd chance that'd happen.
No. They'll play Cam long before they play Joey.
We stunk last night, fortunately Harvard[unlike DePaul] was stunkier. Refs helped a smidge.
Totally agree with Tower's analysis
Quote from: tower912 on March 14, 2018, 08:09:04 PM
1. Sloppy. So so so so sloppy.
2. Rowsey played like he was still not over crying from last week. So bad.
3. Sam's hip is so sore. If the hip surgery is what it is reputed to be, it is amazing he is out there.
4. Cain was so active defensively. And so weak with the ball. Envisioning him 20 lbs stronger.
5. The announcers sure played up the freshman angle.
6. And the Duke point guards as coaches.
7. Maybe there is something to that shooting background thing. MU missed so many shots they usually make.
8. MU's defense was the best it has been in a long time. Disrupted passing lanes. Deflections, steals, turnovers, charges.
9. MU won't beat Oregon if neither Sam nor Jamal plays. And Marquette will lose big.
10. Fun stat. Against teams that are not 1 or 2 seeds in the NCAA tournament, MU is 20-7. Against teams that are not 1-2 seeds in the NCAA tournament, MU is 20-7. 20-6 against all teams that aren't 1-2 seeds. 0-6 against Villanova, Xavier, Purdue. Throw in the 4 seed Wichita State.
11. Need a transfer PG for next year. Could have used one this year.
I'm all in on Custer. Instead of the ice cream truck, Wojo needs to take him to Gilles Frozen Custard. Custard for Custer. Gotta customize the pitch.
If Harvard shoots their normal FT%, they hit 13 instead of 9.
If MU shoots normal %, we hit 15 instead of 18.
7 point swing. Game goes to OT with no absolutely momentum on MU's side.
#FTsmatta
Quote from: Bocephys on March 15, 2018, 08:51:54 AM
It's selfish of Joey to sit out the NIT. A true teammate would be out there.
Does no one else realize this is really obvious teal implied because of all the talk about Metu for USC sitting out?
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 15, 2018, 10:05:01 AM
Does no one else realize this is really obvious teal implied because of all the talk about Metu for USC sitting out?
Brew gets me. Grats on the baby, hope you're getting (some) sleep.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 15, 2018, 09:46:04 AM
I'm all in on Custer. Instead of the ice cream truck, Wojo needs to take him to Gilles Frozen Custard. Custard for Custer. Gotta customize the pitch.
I would say Adrian's but spending a day in Burlington WI isn't the best recruiting tactic.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 14, 2018, 08:22:56 PM
I am thinking more and more that Harry is gone after this season.
He gowne.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 15, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
If Harvard shoots their normal FT%, they hit 13 instead of 9.
If MU shoots normal %, we hit 15 instead of 18.
7 point swing. Game goes to OT with no absolutely momentum on MU's side.
#FTsmatta
So if 7 shots ended up differently the game would have been tied? Seems like a lot of changes no?
And if we hit our normal % from 2 we win by a bazillion. And if we hit our normal volume of 3 we win by a bazillion. If we didn't let them get so many offensive boards we win by a bazillion. If we didn't turn it over 18 times we win by a bazillion. If we didn't let them hit their season average in FG% and 3P% we win by a bazillion.
FT% was like 17th or 18th on the list of reasons why we won
#FTmattasolittleitsnotworthbringingup
Early in the game, Harvard ran a pick and roll. Rowsey was the the weak side wing defender sliding down to try to contest the big who was receiving a lob pass from the PG. Lay up. The past.
Later, same play, multiple times, and it was Cain as the weak side wing defender sliding down and breaking up that lob pass. The future.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2018, 11:11:01 AM
So if 7 shots ended up differently the game would have been tied? Seems like a lot of changes no?
And if we hit our normal % from 2 we win by a bazillion. And if we hit our normal volume of 3 we win by a bazillion. If we didn't let them get so many offensive boards we win by a bazillion. If we didn't turn it over 18 times we win by a bazillion. If we didn't let them hit their season average in FG% and 3P% we win by a bazillion.
FT% was like 17th or 18th on the list of reasons why we won
#FTmattasolittleitsnotworthbringingup
Any idea why they call them "free" throws? Unlike 2pt FG attempts and 3pt FG attempts, the shooter of a free throw is standing still. From 15 feet. Every time. Easily practiced. Easily perfected. Team FT shooting percentage is always higher than is a teams FG and 3 pt FG shooting percentage.
To miss your freebies, is giving away easily earned points.
This continues to be the absolute dumbest talking point on this board.
Quote from: MUDish-Hagans Come On Down on March 14, 2018, 08:12:46 PM
Also, did those announcers win some contest or something to announce that game? What the hell was that?
Absolutely terrible announcers. Hufflepuff? Wtf?
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 12:33:56 PMThis continues to be the absolute dumbest talking point on this board.
For once, you're right, but not for the reason you think.
Did anyone else notice that after Greg tweaked his ankle he kept looking towards the bench, expecting/hoping for a sub, and Wojo just stared back?
Couldn't tell whether the look meant was "You can do this" or "I got nothing".
It was either going to be Harry or Theo. Cowboy up, young man.
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Any idea why they call them "free" throws? Unlike 2pt FG attempts and 3pt FG attempts, the shooter of a free throw is standing still. From 15 feet. Every time. Easily practiced. Easily perfected. Team FT shooting percentage is always higher than is a teams FG and 3 pt FG shooting percentage.
To miss your freebies, is giving away easily earned points.
This continues to be the absolute dumbest talking point on this board.
The fact that they are called "free" throws is part of the problem IMHO. Despite them being "free" the Division 1 average for the past 15 years is around 69%. So maybe not as easy to perfect as many seem to think. We've been fortunate during that time as we have been above average FT shooters in all but 2 seasons. One of TCs years and Wojos first year IIRC
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on March 15, 2018, 08:46:05 AM
If sam is down for the year and Jamal is injured do we turn to Joey if Sacar has fouled out?
No, it would be Ike. I can tell, Wojo is a FIFO kind of guy.
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2018, 02:21:01 PM
No, it would Ike. I can tell, Wojo is a FIFO kind of guy.
Neither. Wojo is not going to burn a year of eligibiity for a second-round NIT game.
Has Ike even been practicing, post back surgery?
Quote from: warriorchick on March 15, 2018, 02:23:45 PM
Neither. Wojo is not going to burn a year of eligibiity for a second-round NIT game.
if anyone was going to get an accounting joke I thought it would be you.
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
if anyone was going to get an accounting joke I thought it would be you.
That is an oxymoron.
Quote from: Archies Bat on March 15, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
That is an oxymoron.
oxen are people too, no need to name call
Well I got my tickets, just barley.
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
if anyone was going to get an accounting joke I thought it would be you.
I got the terminology; just didn't realize it was supposed to be a joke. There are some on this board who would have said it completely seriously.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on March 15, 2018, 03:03:57 PM
Well I got my tickets, just barley.
You clearly hopped right on those ;D
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 15, 2018, 03:34:11 PM
You clearly hopped right on those ;D
SO fast I posted in the wrong thread.
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on March 15, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
SO fast I posted in the wrong thread.
I was going for the barley reference ;)
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 15, 2018, 03:47:24 PM
I was going for the barley reference ;)
Oh my. You are just a pun machine
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Any idea why they call them "free" throws? Unlike 2pt FG attempts and 3pt FG attempts, the shooter of a free throw is standing still. From 15 feet. Every time. Easily practiced. Easily perfected. Team FT shooting percentage is always higher than is a teams FG and 3 pt FG shooting percentage.
To miss your freebies, is giving away easily earned points.
This continues to be the absolute dumbest talking point on this board.
Yet another person who doesn't really get it.
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2018, 02:21:01 PM
No, it would be Ike. I can tell, Wojo is a FIFO kind of guy.
I'm more of a FISH guy (First In Still Here)
Quote from: #bansultan on March 15, 2018, 07:35:37 PM
Yet another person who doesn't really get it.
I totally get how the original position evolved from FTsnomatta, to okay, FT Rate matta. Ftsnomatta was a dumb statement to begin with. Of course all kind of factors matter that go into winning, to discount FTs as one component is simply dumb.
Feel free to carry on supporting this silly hashtag.
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 08:28:38 PM
I totally get how the original position evolved from FTsnomatta, to okay, FT Rate matta. Ftsnomatta was a dumb statement to begin with. Of course all kind of factors matter that go into winning, to discount FTs as one component is simply dumb.
Feel free to carry on supporting this silly hashtag.
The hashtag is used symbolically to counter the belief that FT% is an important factor in winning basketball games. It's never been meant to be taken literally.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 15, 2018, 08:33:15 PM
The hashtag is used symbolically to counter the belief that FT% is an important factor in winning basketball games. It's never been meant to be taken literally.
Ahhhh a Eureka moment. Now I get it. A team can shoot 0-20 from the FT Line and it wouldn't matta. Cool.
Can you clarify on the symbolism of hashtags on MU Scoop? Is that a new form of teal? Perhaps a cousin?
Quote from: warriorchick on March 15, 2018, 03:34:03 PM
I got the terminology; just didn't realize it was supposed to be a joke. There are some on this board who would have said it completely seriously.
Yeah, well, if Wojo would pull off
anyone's redshirt for an NIT game I'd move over to the Fire Wojo crowd.
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
Ahhhh a Eureka moment. Now I get it. A team can shoot 0-20 from the FT Line and it wouldn't matta. Cool.
Can you clarify on the symbolism of hashtags on MU Scoop? Is that a new form of teal? Perhaps a cousin?
<sigh>
You are joyless.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 15, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
<sigh>
You are joyless.
I'm totally amused with this Sultan. I find it comical. 0-20 FT shooting no matta. You know why? Because Ft% no matta. BRILLIANT!
Yeah I think tower's got the right idea. On ignore you go.
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Any idea why they call them "free" throws? Unlike 2pt FG attempts and 3pt FG attempts, the shooter of a free throw is standing still. From 15 feet. Every time. Easily practiced. Easily perfected. Team FT shooting percentage is always higher than is a teams FG and 3 pt FG shooting percentage.
To miss your freebies, is giving away easily earned points.
This continues to be the absolute dumbest talking point on this board.
No that is not why they are called free throws.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 15, 2018, 09:23:22 PM
Yeah I think tower's got the right idea. On ignore you go.
I disagree with your viewpoint, or I cannot rebut it, so therefore, I must place you on ignore. To read your viewpoints is simply too traumatic. #soft.
Don't ask me why I'm contributing to this conversation. This is Basketball 101. Free throws aren't called "free" because the points should be automatic. Even the best free throw shooters miss free throws. According to the NCAA men's basketball rule book:
"A free throw is the privilege given to a player to score one point by an unhindered try for goal from within the free-throw semicircle and behind the free-throw line."
The attempt is "free."
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 15, 2018, 10:23:11 PM
Don't ask me why I'm contributing to this conversation. This is Basketball 101. Free throws aren't called "free" because the points should be automatic. Even the best free throw shooters miss free throws. According to the NCAA men's basketball rule book:
"A free throw is the privilege given to a player to score one point by an unhindered try for goal from within the free-throw semicircle and behind the free-throw line."
The attempt is "free."
Right...and when you miss "unhindered" standing still shots in basketball...that the average team converts at 70% - which is much higher than both 2pt and 3pt FG%, it is costly to miss those free throws.
Arguing with himself.
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
Ahhhh a Eureka moment. Now I get it. A team can shoot 0-20 from the FT Line and it wouldn't matta. Cool.
Can you clarify on the symbolism of hashtags on MU Scoop? Is that a new form of teal? Perhaps a cousin?
It started as a twitta hashtag. No % allowed in twitta hashtags which is how it was shortened to #FTnomatta
Quote from: Floorslapper on March 15, 2018, 09:14:59 PM
I'm totally amused with this Sultan. I find it comical. 0-20 FT shooting no matta. You know why? Because Ft% no matta. BRILLIANT!
Honest question, has there ever been a game where a D1 team shot 0-20 from the line?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2018, 11:32:07 PM
Honest question, has there ever been a game where a D1 team shot 0-20 from the line?
Dunno ... but I covered an NBA game in which Tim Hardaway went 0-for-17 from the floor ... and the Warriors still smoked the Timberwolves!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2018, 11:30:29 PMIt started as a twitta hashtag. No % allowed in twitta hashtags which is how it was shortened to #FTnomatta
Hey, come on now. What's wrong with:
#TeamFTPercentageIsStatisticallyInsignificantCompared
ToEffectiveFGPercentageOffensiveReboundingPercentage
TurnoverPercentageAndFreeThrowRate
ND still sucks
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 15, 2018, 11:32:07 PMHonest question, has there ever been a game where a D1 team shot 0-20 from the line?
Couldn't find that stat. But according to Sports Reference, 19 teams have attempted 0 free throws in a game since 2010. Their combined record in those games was 3-16.
http://cbbref.com/tiny/RuUPT (http://cbbref.com/tiny/RuUPT)
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 16, 2018, 12:07:20 AM
Couldn't find that stat. But according to Sports Reference, 19 teams have attempted 0 free throws in a game since 2010. Their combined record in those games was 3-16.
http://cbbref.com/tiny/RuUPT (http://cbbref.com/tiny/RuUPT)
No FtR now that's bad
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 15, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
Absolutely terrible announcers. Hufflepuff? Wtf?
100% agree on the H. Potter stuff but "B
igEastie Boys" is a monicker I wish Scoop would've made up.
Also.....#nohashtag
#MUScoopIsWeird