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Every shirt behind the announcers in the opening shot is an MU shirt
Good lord
Two already!
Rowsey so unbelievably dumb
Markus time.
Have to see what happens
Markus looks like he's moving well.
Thank god markus is available
I think I saw Greg Elliott's move in the reflection of Leito's eyes. Great camera work FS Wisconsin
MArkus moving pretty well.
Offense looks terrible so far tho
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 11:05:26 AM
Thank god markus is available
Even if Markus wasn't available, and Rowsey was sitting, this is DePaul..Shouldn't need either to be a glorified HS team
The beginning of this game is a microcosm of why I despise watching MU play DePaul
Needed that TV time out.
This could be the worst start I've ever seen on offense
Where the hell did Sam think he was throwing that??
Is Fox, going to put the score up at all today?? Terrible..
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
Even if Markus wasn't available, and Rowsey was sitting, this is DePaul..Shouldn't need either to be a glorified HS team
Disagree. Need reliable ball handlers regardless of who you're playing
Lets see, two fouls by Rowsey in minute and a half. They made one shot and have thrown ball away, what like four times.
Better get head out of butts and start playing some ball. This one is a must.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 11:07:03 AM
I think I saw Greg Elliott's move in the reflection of Leito's eyes. Great camera work FS Wisconsin
Unfortunately, not the first time they've done that. :-(
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
Is Fox, going to put the score up at all today?? Terrible..
I spent 4 minutes assuming I mistakenly thought the DePaul player made the 1st free throw because they had the score as 0-0. Guess it's better to not have a score than have the wrong score
Need lots from Sam and Anim today
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
Is Fox, going to put the score up at all today?? Terrible..
Back in my day, we didn't have a scorebug. ;D
Kind of piss poor officiating so far.
Great pass by matt
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
Is Fox, going to put the score up at all today?? Terrible..
Forgot to ask for the game clock too. :D Guess we have to keep looking behind the baskets.
He should be shooting!!
Is there a "mute" function for Dickey?
This game is pretty awful to watch. Everything I hate. Poor shooting. Lots of fouls. Lots of turnovers. DePaul.
Sweet. M2N with the 3. That's a welcome sight.
Gonna need to rebound
Tourney chances on the line boys.
Gotta start playing sound
And Sam...please shoot
Damn Howard get the ball to Hauser immediately when he's wide open in transition. Waited until defense was in position to tip pass. Ahhhhh!!!
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
I spent 4 minutes assuming I mistakenly thought the DePaul player made the 1st free throw because they had the score as 0-0. Guess it's better to not have a score than have the wrong score
Now they have the score but no clock or shot clock.
Any report on size of MU contingent on hand today?
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on February 24, 2018, 11:16:22 AM
This game is pretty awful to watch. Everything I hate. Poor shooting. Lots of fouls. Lots of turnovers. DePaul.
Between not being able to display the score and clock, terrible camera angles, lag/low framerate that may or may not be from the app, and Dickey Simpkins I can't even attempt to watch and evaluate the game itself.
how about a zone? 1 guard injured, 1 guard with 2 fouls, playing against a 6-6 point guard, DePual with4 free throws already,
GOnna break a record for travels
Where was the walk on Theo? I didn't see it at all.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 24, 2018, 11:22:01 AM
Where was the walk on Theo? I didn't see it at all.
Thought they would call charge so I'm ok with traveling
Best thing so far by far is MH looks healthy
Greg can't dribble
Heldt didn't even try to defend from the help side there.
Matty's got a nice little hook there.
7 turnovers in 10 minutes. This is just an awful game to watch.
DePaul has 7 also.
THIs no clock thing is annoying
Siiiick move by Sacar
Is Elliott's thumb getting worse. You can tell it is seriously bothering him this game and the last one.
Ugh. My eyes already hurt and there is still... I have no idea how many minutes left in the first half
Not a huge fan of the arena. Bland and long lines everywhere.
Quote from: forgetful on February 24, 2018, 11:27:50 AM
Is Elliott's thumb getting worse. You can tell it is seriously bothering him this game and the last one.
It seems like it is
It's a foul to be landed on and to hit all ball through a shooters arms
Man is officiating terrible in this game. Neither Howard's or Cain's were fouls there. Cain had an awesome, and clearly clean block.
Wow Jamal. Clean as a whistle. Refs are awful.
Need to box out some, hey?
Sam getting crushed on boards
But nice 3!!
Rebound the f'n ball!!!
That was sick!!!!
Great transition. Quick passing and EXPLOSIVE finish.
Sacar is bringing it today!!
Now that was pretty. Sam's bounce pass was perfect.
God that was pretty. And the flush!!
Slow down a bit boys
These are some weak ass fouls
Can't even get a call in our Southern home.
Here we go again, last game was good, but Cain, Heldt and Rowsey all with two fouls.
Played bad to awful for more than half the first half and up by 7. Okay I guess, if that was the worst of it for the day
Quote from: nyg on February 24, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
Here we go again, last game was good, but Cain, Heldt and Rowsey all with two fouls.
Let's hope Sam, Sacar and Markus stay out of it
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 24, 2018, 11:39:18 AM
Let's hope Sam, Sacar and Markus stay out of it
Right on cue dammit
Quote from: nyg on February 24, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
Here we go again, last game was good, but Cain, Heldt and Rowsey all with two fouls.
Man d
Those were MUs first free throws and of course missed.
Theo with a nice 10 footer.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 24, 2018, 11:42:42 AM
Theo with a nice 10 footer.
Wish he had that stroke at the line
But that was nice
Froling really buried on the bench. Defensive rebounding piss poor and still can't get in.
Greg needs to settle down
These turnovers are maddening. Thankfully DePaul isn't a good team and if we were playing a good team we would be losing bad
"No opportunity to play the two (Rowsey and Howard) together."
Announcer obviously doesn't read Scoop
Up 5. Should be more. Need to take care of the ball and stay out of foul trouble.
We got this.
If we settle the fu ck down we should have this pretty easy.
Would also be nice if refs stopped sending DePaul to the line.
Wojo needs to mix in some zone second half to limit fouls
Please get this half over. My. God, DePaul almost has the same number of turnovers as basket made and MU only up five. That's impossible.
MU needs to cut turnovers, stop getting killed on offensive boards and stop fouling.
Rowsey getting those two fouls early just hurt them, causing an injured Howard to play.
More Sam please......
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 11:47:16 AM
"No opportunity to play the two (Rowsey and Howard) together."
Announcer obviously doesn't read Scoop
Exactly what I was thinking.
Poor preparation, IMO.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 24, 2018, 11:49:41 AM
Wojo needs to mix in some zone second half to limit fouls
Played zone 4 possessions. They scored 2 points.
Quote from: nyg on February 24, 2018, 11:50:26 AM
Please get this half over. My. God, DePaul almost has the same number of turnovers as basket made and MU only up five. That's impossible.
MU needs to cut turnovers, stop getting killed on offensive boards and stop fouling.
Rowsey getting those two fouls early just hurt them, causing an injured Howard to play.
More Sam please......
Judging from how Markus is moving, I think he was going to play regardless of Andy's fouls.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 24, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
Played zone 4 possessions. They scored 2 points.
Good stat. I didn't even notice us going zone at all
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 24, 2018, 11:52:34 AM
Judging from how Markus is moving, I think he was going to play regardless of Andy's fouls.
Yeah I think he was clearly going to play a pretty good amount.
He's driving like crazy.
10 offensive rebounds given up. DePaul shooting 30% and 2-12 from three. Rowsey scoreless after fouling himself to the bench.
Let's get another big second half from Sam.
Seriously, someone just tuning in would have to wonder why the Bradley Center has DePaul chairs given all the MU shirts behind the announcers
11-2 and 6-0 on the free throw attempt and makes
They matta
Keeping it close
Great analysis by Dickie as always. Can't wait for more tourney prognosticating from him this half
Greg 2-7 from field in first half. 9 turnovers... need to take care of the ball more. Rebounds even at 23. Heldt with a nice first half
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 24, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
Played zone 4 possessions. They scored 2 points.
and no free throws for DePaul. , don't worry though Wojo goes back to M2M so they can go to the line 11 times.
I actually think he is not that bad as folks make him out to be. I really don't get to hear him as he does mostly MU home games, as I'm in attendance.
Quote from: denverMU on February 24, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
and no free throws for DePaul. , don't worry though Wojo goes back to M2M so they can go to the line 11 times.
We also seem to limit offensive boards when we're in zone.
Get Rowsey off the floor
All ice cold
Brick brick brick brick
Riwsey wasting no time chucking the ball.
Lead gone.
Markus please
Here's a thought, drive the fuckin ball
Get your team in zone! And start driving the f'n ball
We are rushing every shot
More fouls too
Every shot is taken just off balance. Even Hausers 3 that he had to extend to catch pass from Rowsey
Heldt sure did seem to have all ball on that block.
MU is just stupid. DePaul has 11turnovers and 11 baskets made. And the game is one point.
Hey, got an idea, just shoot 30 footer by Rowsey, then 3 more missed wide opens, missed layup and now Cain with three fouls. Five straight misses. And another foul by Heldt.
At least Depaul will be in the double bonus with 15 minutes left in he half so we will get to watch this quality for 1.5 more hours
That's the smart Rowsey
And another foul and another.
Wojo. Play some fucking zone
Time for zone. Way too many easy buckets for DePaul.
Did John seriously think making a jab punching motion at the ball wouldn't result in a foul. Where are the MU brains today?
If wojo keeps letting Cyrus go 1 on 1 with Rowsey it's fireable
PLAY ZONE
They in the bonus??
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on February 24, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Time for zone. Way too many easy buckets for DePaul.
It was time for zone at tip off!!!!
Quote from: DJO's Jaw on February 24, 2018, 12:12:34 PM
Time for zone. Way too many easy buckets for DePaul.
There last make was an off balance fade away. That isn't an easy bucket, just because it went in.
Not disagreeing that we need to play zone, but they aren't getting a lot of easy buckets.
Posting their bigger guards!! Hello coaches!!!
Wojo is a rock head. This team can't shoot 3s for their life. And we can't defend m2m without fouling. ZONE?!?
Rowsey is killing us
Unreal. Losing this half by 9.
Hmmmm finally takes a set shot
And he makes it. Who woulda thunk it
Rowsey should have had a T on that
BS call on Anim. Sams been getting grabbed all day
Great strip awful pass Theo
If that was a foul on Anim, you could call a foul against Depaul twice every time they defend.
Another foul unreal
This is hard to watch
Just play zone for the remainder of the game please
I wonder if my dentist has any Saturday openings for a root canal. That would be more fun than this
Shooting 37% and 23% on threes. Fouls and turnovers killing them. Now is time, loss here would be devasting.
Transition O terrible. Pretty sure we have more turnovers than buckets.
16 fouls to 9, if you think we have fouled nearly twice as often as Depaul in this game, you are blind.
DePaul working hard on the boards.
Rowsey has a new dumbest play of the year
No more rowsey and Howard together. More zone. More Heldt.
For the love of god stop playing both Howard and Rowsey!
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
Rowsey has a new dumbest play of the year
What was that even?
They aren't going to lose to this HS team, are they?? Really??
Everything Wojo did right the past two games he's done wrong today
Quote from: forgetful on February 24, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
What was that even?
I rewatched it and have no additional information for you to base a decision on
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 24, 2018, 12:27:10 PM
For the love of god stop playing both Howard and Rowsey!
It is absolutely incredible. Playing M2M with Rowsey and Howard together. Almost no zone this whole game.
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 24, 2018, 12:27:10 PM
For the love of god stop playing both Howard and Rowsey!
Honestly, what do you want them to do? We are not losing because of our defense. That has been very solid. We are losing because of rebounding (zone would make that even worse), and because our offense has been dreadful. Our offense is best with Howard and Rowsey both on the floor.
How are down 11 in this half to this team?
Please God get Rowsey out of this game. He might as well be wearing a DePaul jersey out there today.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
Rowsey has a new dumbest play of the year
He's 1 for 7 on threes also. MU just chuckin them up right now and not working well. Foul trouble has players on bench and others worried about picking up another. Not a good recipe.
Quote from: forgetful on February 24, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
What was that even?
Unfortunately there is a ton of them.
Are all of our ATO plays for howard to take a three with a man in his face with zero ball movement? Hero ball we dont need
ITS F*****G DEPAUL
Our big 3 are a combined 7-24.
I HATE the one handed pass off the dribble
If we don't stop these turnovers we are toast.
Sam has played poorly
Need a spark... maybe put Froling in
Ugliest stretch ever
I did not think they could do so many things wrong and poorly in one game
7 points in 12 minutes unreal
Ridiculous chucking
Wojo. Please go zone.
It's so bad I heard cheering from DePaul's Home crowd for the first time since Terry Cummings played for them
Sam is playing as awful as anyone
The ol' coach really had the boys ready to play today!
Well, if we miss the tournament we have no one to blame but ourselves. Such a head scratching team that lacks consistency, even our best players.
Embarrassing
Well this is one way to end your season
Quote from: Afroman on February 24, 2018, 12:34:56 PM
The ol' coach really had the boys ready to play today!
Welcome back.
Quote from: Shark on February 24, 2018, 12:35:28 PM
Well this is one way to end your season
I'm just going to stare at your sig the rest of this half and go to my happy place
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 24, 2018, 12:34:13 PM
Wojo. Please go zone.
Not the problem. It will make our rebounding even worse.
Our offense is the problem.
They had 33 points at halftime they have 40 now pretty sure that 7 points
Maybe Rowsey will foul out and MU will have a chance
Way to end your season with a loss to DuhPaul MU, well done..absolutely despicable.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 12:37:49 PM
Maybe Rowsey will foul out and MU will have a chance
I mean why would Wojo go with the lineup that built us a lead??
Depaul: 39 rebounds to our 28.
Big 3: 7-27.
7 points in 13 minutes against this team is terrible.
MU just chuckin threes 4 for 19
And another foul on Sacar.....he mugged him, why, why...
Worst coaching ever
C'mon. We've got a run in us.
Has to be the worst rebounding of the season
Heldt needs to learn how to grab the ball.
A lot of time.....but those offensive rebounds have been death. Let's go.......
Rebounding would be a good start to a run, hey?
We needed that wide open 3 for Rowsey to fall.
Wide f-ing open. How does he miss that shot?
We are on pace for our 3rd loss of the year where we won the eFG% battle.
Rowsey and Howard are 3-14 from 3
How bad is Depaul that MU has played as bad as they physically can and MU could cut it to two in this possession. I'm more sick to my stomach coming to that realization
We're going to pull this out
100% guarantee if that same play happened on the other end of the floor it would have been a foul on us
Rebounding.
18 offensive rebounds.
Watch Froling come in and hit 4 straight 3's
Losing the game on the boards this half. Can't give any team this many chances and expect to win.
neat
Not the refs.
They are 6" n 20 lbs bigger n more athletic across the board.
Second chance athleticims size points story of this game. Need athletes
Sacar is really icing this game for DePaul
Well at least I can stop watching this horrible team
Another off reb. Fml
Prediction: Marquette loses to Wisconsin in the NIT
My only hope for this season is that the scandals cause the NCAA to cancel the entire tournament
DePaul up 17 on rebounds, 18 to 6 on offensive boards. Ballgame.
This one may have killed their bid
Great job today Woj
Looks like the end of the season in about 1 minute.
I believe I would rather have had a ref make a ridiculously bad call to give DePaul the win than to have DePaul to deserve to beat MU like they do here
At Wintrust. Subpar effort by team. Great effort by MU Fans. BTW the most inefficient stadium I have EVER attended. Absolutely atrocious at moving and serving attendees. Only positive the bathrooms were empty because 90% of the fans were in line!
Quote from: nyg on February 24, 2018, 12:53:25 PM
DePaul up 17 on rebounds, 18 to 6 on offensive boards. Ballgame.
This one may have killed their bid
19-6 on the offensive boards.
No bid this year.
I want to listen to the postgame interview but I'm afraid I would hear Wojo say they tried hard and gave good effort and objects in my house would be irreparably harmed
We won the eFG% battle by 8%. We will possibly lose by double digits.
#eFGnoMatta
Does wojo have the balls to show up for the post game? ::)
I wonder if Marcus was unable to play and we played Zone would we have won the game
Do you know how F'n disgusting it is losing to DuhPaul?? Absolutely inexcusable..congrats to the team and Wojo on ending your season with a horesh*t game against a HS team. Well done.
I have grown tired of our relatively regular losses to DePaul.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on February 24, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
I wonder if Marcus was unable to play and we played Zone would we have won the game
This is all I'm thinking. It sucks wanting one of your best players to be unavailable because your coach apparently is too stupid/stubborn to know how to use them correctly.
How he didn't learn this obvious lesson is an extremely worrying sign for any future coaching success.
Quote from: Aughnanure on February 24, 2018, 01:05:02 PM
This is all I'm thinking. It sucks wanting one of your best players to be unavailable because your coach apparently is too stupid/stubborn to know how to use them correctly.
How he didn't learn this obvious lesson is an extremely worrying sign for any future coaching success.
Some of us were tired of Wojo last year already...others just keep slobbering all over him and will say "wait until next year". ::)
Quote from: mugrack on February 24, 2018, 01:01:58 PM
Does wojo have the balls to show up for the post game? ::)
Why not, he'll still get paid for five minute of softball questions and coach speak answers.
Quote from: Aughnanure on February 24, 2018, 01:05:02 PM
This is all I'm thinking. It sucks wanting one of your best players to be unavailable because your coach apparently is too stupid/stubborn to know how to use them correctly.
How he didn't learn this obvious lesson is an extremely worrying sign for any future coaching success.
Pin to the top of the board. End of story. Completely deviated from the formula that had worked the last two games. I mean WTF? Wojo forced into playing just one of the smalls in first half and we were okay. BUT, Wojo played maybe 7 possessions of zone the whole game, and reverts back to the small ball lineup and we get blown the F out in the second half.
Quote from: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on February 24, 2018, 12:32:50 PM
Need a spark... maybe put Froling in
Boy, Harry is glued to the bench. We got killed on the boards and a 6'11" guy can't get one minute. Something strange there.
Quote from: muguru on February 24, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
Even if Markus wasn't available, and Rowsey was sitting, this is DePaul..Shouldn't need either to be a glorified HS team
How about that, Iceman. Lost to a high school team......
Losing to DePaul is UNACCEPTABLE. They wanted it more.
Wojo showed up for the interview. Immaturity was the issue.
Some of the most god awful turnovers he's seen from this team
On him to find ways to play with more maturity
Defensive key was to box out
Offensive key was to value the ball
I'm not a transcriber sorry
Good job. Right on.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 01:30:57 PM
Wojo showed up for the interview. Immaturity was the issue.
Some of the most god awful turnovers he's seen from this team
On him to find ways to play with more maturity
Defensive key was to box out
Offensive key was to value the ball
I'm not a transcriber sorry
So he went back to the well again with the "youth excuse."
Maybe a few guys will transfer after this season & he can use the youth excuse again next year...plus maybe we'll only have 9-10 scholarship players and he can throw in a "lack of depth excuse" too for good measure.
I'm doing my full Nancy Kerrigan today with huge tears...... :'( :'( :'(
Can not understand why we always crap the bed vs. DPU, pathetic, heartless and so weak on many levels.... ruins another season
Guess it's Baseball season now 8-)
Quote from: i71_dawg on February 24, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
So he went back to the well again with the "youth excuse."
Maybe a few guys will transfer after this season & he can use the youth excuse again next year...plus maybe we'll only have 9-10 scholarship players and he can throw in a "lack of depth excuse" too for good measure.
Said it was all on him (again)
Quote from: i71_dawg on February 24, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
So he went back to the well again with the "youth excuse"
The
way he said it seemed as close as a coach comes to ripping his players. The context/voice did not come across as an excuse. More as disgust
He has said "it's all on him" a bunch of times this year. Maybe find someone who knows how to coach?
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 01:43:07 PM
The way he said it seemed as close as a coach comes to ripping his players. The context/voice did not come across as an excuse. More as disgust
Keep projecting.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 01:30:57 PM
Wojo showed up for the interview. Immaturity was the issue.
Some of the most god awful turnovers he's seen from this team
On him to find ways to play with more maturity
Defensive key was to box out
Offensive key was to value the ball
I'm not a transcriber sorry
enough w the youth and immaturity already. They've all got an almost full season under their belts.
Again, the way he said, to me, it was basically conveying, "I can't believe they are still playing this immaturely." It's my job to change it.
I'm not commenting that he should be excused for his team's performance. I'm just portraying what I heard him say
My apologies if it was already discussed on this thread but the lack of touches for hauser especially at the mid post in the second half was mind boggling. We're 30 games in and it's still not clear to wojo that the offense needs to be run through him. That's coaching.
Quote from: MUEng92 on February 24, 2018, 01:30:57 PM
Wojo showed up for the interview. Immaturity was the issue.
Some of the most god awful turnovers he's seen from this team
On him to find ways to play with more maturity
Defensive key was to box out
Offensive key was to value the ball
I'm not a transcriber sorry
Are we conflating immaturity with youth? Rowsey was the worst of the bunch with multiple terrible passes, one 60 ft. turnover he never even bothered to go after, and many 1 on 5 possessions that are effectively turnovers that don't get counted as such. Still, Coach did not seem interested in yanking his 5th year senior or telling him to at least play a semblance of a team game.
Very frustrating. Our players don't seem to be getting better. Wojo doesn't seem capable of garnering their respect in a way that plays out on the floor. I know this is reactionary after an infuriating game but it's been a death by a thousand papercuts for a guy that paid way too handsomely to continue to be so easy on himself and his team when these issues continue to lead to middling results.
Im down on Wojo but dont really put any of this on him.
1. Gotta make shots.
2. Threw or fumbled the ball away all game long.
3. We gave up 6" and 20 lbs at every position, knock Rowsey n Howard defensively all u want but Cain n ELliott and Theo while they matched Depaul heiggth wise gave up 20 lbs and 2-3-4 yrs experience. They were no better, arguably worse. Turnovers left n right n got killed on the boards.
The MU players got beat today, if u wanna blame Wojo blame him for to many undersized and under talented players on the court. Our best players are Freshaman
"Our best players are freshmen."
Huh?