Big hairy wet cats on the menu today. :o :o :o
Wildcat livers....nummy!
Sam for SOTG.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!
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Froling starting.
Froling is starting....
I don't want everyone to freak out, but Joey is wearing a walking boot....
Quote from: warriorchick on January 28, 2018, 11:51:34 AM
I don't want everyone to freak out, but Joey is wearing a walking boot....
At jimmy johns?
Quote from: warriorchick on January 28, 2018, 11:51:34 AM
I don't want everyone to freak out, but Joey is wearing a walking boot....
Officially part of team now!
Offense is moving the ball well
Gotta defend a little tho good lord.
Rowsey also gotta keep his composure. Lucky we didn't get any Ts
No complaints about the crowd today. It's MU vs ND-loud in the BC.
Markus shoulda popped the 3 again.
The drive helped the defender.
Wow refs really let them play rather then calling a tie up.
Damn 2 on Rowsey now
The fouls start. Heldt, Sacar and Rowsey in one minute.
Rowsey with two and sits. Every game, either him or Howard in trouble.
Need Nova to get in trouble, big time.
Too much Markus, gotta spread offense around, Sam with no shots, none. Cain, now that's what I am talking about.
Nice drive by Jamal. The kid's gonna be good.
Quote from: nyg on January 28, 2018, 12:27:06 PM
The fouls start. Heldt, Sacar and Rowsey in one minute.
Rowsey with two and sits. Every game, either him or Howard in trouble.
Need Nova to get in trouble, big time.
Too much Markus, gotta spread offense around, Sam with no shots, none. Cain, now that's what I am talking about.
Really need Sam to start hunting shots.
At least we are drawing some fouls too
Wtf was that free throw Jamal.
Then they bank a 3
Really like Cain being aggressive. FT, not so much.
That escalated quickly
Rough few min. Nova running away right now
More Sam shots please
Has Paschall ever missed against us?
They are bigger than us, stronger than us, and better than us. We need them to cool off.
The length/strength of Nova is getting to Howard et al.
They're hitting everything. Certainly not the same shooting issues as last year
We're playing good D after made baskets. They're dominating transition
Listening on a flight, but feel like we need to drive and try to draw fouls. They have no depth, attack that.
That banked 3 by Brunson sums it up: today is not our day.
Marcus needs to get the rest of the team involved
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2018, 12:35:40 PM
Listening on a flight, but feel like we need to drive and try to draw fouls. They have no depth, attack that.
Seems like that may have been our plan early. They are letting the layers bang with the bodies, and we are not as big as them. We bounce off of them.
Wright seems to have noted that Markus is not in the running for the BE all-D team.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 28, 2018, 12:39:29 PM
Wright seems to have noted that Markus is not in the running for the BE all-D team.
Not really, what he realized is that Brunson is bigger and stronger than Rowsey/Howard. Just give him the ball, clear out his side and let him back them down. When the help comes kick to the open man and nail a 3, or start a defensive scramble.
Less they are not strong defenders, more they are small.
Also bad at playing defense.
Quote from: forgetful on January 28, 2018, 12:41:58 PM
Not really, what he realized is that Brunson is bigger and stronger than Rowsey/Howard. Just give him the ball, clear out his side and let him back them down. When the help comes kick to the open man and nail a 3, or start a defensive scramble.
Less they are not strong defenders, more they are small.
Divincenzo same thing on Howard early, but shooting right over him. He's been sitting for last 10 minutes btw.
Sacar on Brunson now, so Bridges just will take over now.
The last two foul calls against MU were not fouls. They've been letting those go all game.
So is Villinova's bench always filled in by the same fraternity or is it some sort of rotating system between all their fraternities?
Great run. Paschal and Divicnzo on bench with two fouls really helps.
Sacar driving that sequence. Great D on brunson
Seem to be playing better without Marcus in there right now the whole team contributing looks good
Huge from Cain! Come on, boys!
Sacar on Brunson is working well with Divencenzo on the bench. Brunson can't back Sacar down. Gillespie can't exploit Rowsey, and Rowsey can take him all day on offense.
Quote from: jonny09 on January 28, 2018, 12:44:37 PM
Also bad at playing defense.
Agreed. They typically struggle to keep up with their man, and get beat on quick first steps.
Just pointing out that Nova is not exploiting bad D, really exploiting size.
That's a terrible call
Fouls will dictate the rest of this game
Brunson has a Thing too
Not a foul on Froling. Not a travel on Sacar.
Could have easily called a foul on Howards drive and layup (body).
The entire difference in the game right now is the FT line.
Can't complain down 5 at the half after trailing by 12. Hoping our depth can wear them out late.
Anim needs to drive and finish, he crosses the paint every time and gives it up, very predictable offense
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Can't complain down 5 at the half after trailing by 12. Hoping our depth can wear them out late.
We are going to need our depth for foul trouble. Rowsey and Froling both with 3.
Rowsey, oh no........my goodness that hurt.
Since that
Markus comes in cold and takes two shots, misses both
Sacar turnover
Harry number three.
Momentum and lead completely gone.
One play changed everything.
The third fouls on Roesey and Harry were just garbage. And that influences tge game in a big way. Total BS.
Donny free zone so far, eh?
Jay Wright: We're pretty short handed today.
Refs: I got you fam.
Nova 9 for 11 and MU 3 for 4 from ft line. MU with 12 fouls and in big trouble.
Need to get Paschal and Divencenzo in trouble
MU not gonna win this with Sam taking one shot.
Like every other top 10 game this year that's been close. Refs seem to have something against marquette. Not sure what's going on...
Also the hell was that halftime?
Only saving grace to MU foul trouble is that Nova is only going 5-1/2 deep on their roster right now. Nobody is going to want to play more than 40 today.
I can't stand Len Elmore
Nova has 6 points this half. 4 of them on very very questionable foul calls.
When Brunson is on Hauser they should be taken advantage of that
Officiating is horrible this half. They already owe us a bunch of make up calls.
Love how we have been moving the ball around today. Working hard every possession. Can't let them get on a run.
Why in the holy unnatural carnal knowledge are we switching our bigs onto Brunson?
This is why we hedge ball screens. Our bigs can't keep up on switches too
getting killed on that high switch
Whatever defense MU is playing that results in a possibility of Heldt and Froling guarding Brunson is equivalent in effectiveness to having all five guys stay on the offensive end of the court
Yo Wojo, might want to let them know to stop switching on ball screens..
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on January 28, 2018, 01:27:39 PM
Why in the holy unnatural carnal knowledge are we switching our bigs onto Brunson?
Because scoop told wojo that having the big man hedge on screens doesn't work
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 28, 2018, 01:26:25 PM
Love how we have been moving the ball around today. Working hard every possession. Can't let them get on a run.
Uh. No. Been Rowsey, Rowsey in second half, with two straight layup shots missed, then Hauser with two misses, both as shot clock going down. And as far as a run, Nova about to go on a 10 to 0,or should I say Brunson.
Heldt is terrible, should not be on court and Theo has hardly played.
That was an easy call I just gave Brunson more time to rest on the bench
Instant Nova run when Brunson gets back in.
Good lord we just can't have nice things. Every good play followed by a brain crushing stupid play
Well made a run with Markus on bench in first half, he has missed his last six shots anyway, so maybe a good run now. Oh wait, Another turnover....ugh.
Maybe Nova will go about 0-10 from 3 the rest of the way like last year..
Howard's 4th was a really bad play.
Bridges takes the ball up on the left side of his body and it looks like it's going to miss left every time until it doesn't miss
Let's goooooo! We got this!!!
Play some D and we got this.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 28, 2018, 01:52:58 PM
Play some D and we got this.
I hope it doesn't come down to that
Sorry, that was uncalled for...well, unnecessary.
STOP SWITCHING ON BRUNSON. Automatic points
Howard must think he has to shoot every time he touches the ball
Team on a run and Wojo subs in Heldt, why? Comes out to top of key to guard Brunson and well ya know.
So much for that run. Heldt in for one minute. Now MU back on another run.
Sacar has missed a few around rim, but really explosive, great to see.
Quote from: nyg on January 28, 2018, 02:00:33 PM
Team on a run and Wojo subs in Heldt, why? Comes out to top of key to guard Brunson and well ya know.
So much for that run. Heldt in for one minute. Now MU back on another run.
Sacar has missed a few around rim, but really explosive, great to see.
Because we run an offense where bigs are asked to do a lot of running and screening and sometimes guys get tired
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on January 28, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
Because we run an offense where bigs are asked to do a lot of running and screening and sometimes guys get tired
Yet Theo John sits the whole game, basically.
Oh wow f*cked by the refs at the end who could have guessed!
Holy crap. Bridges fouled the crap out of sacar on the drive. Then jumped on Jamal's back. Unbelievable
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on January 28, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
Because we run an offense where bigs are asked to do a lot of running and screening and sometimes guys get tired
Theo exists.
We deserved to win this one. Officials were terrible the entire way. Totally unbalanced officiating. Officiating was the difference in this game.
Every person on MUs roster would have been called for a foul on that offensive rebound by Villanova
Pretty good game. Too bad the officials swallowed their whistles for two obvious foul calls in the last minutes.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2018, 02:13:28 PM
Every person on MUs roster would have been called for a foul on that offensive rebound by Villanova
That was brutal. Not a cheapie either.
I don't quite understand the logic of switching between calling touch fouls for parts of the game, then "letting them play", then bouncing back and forth. I'd rather see constistency, at least then the players will know that they can potentially get mauled from behind on a boxout.
5-18 from Howard did not help,and Sam only had 5
Where was Theo this game??
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2018, 02:13:28 PM
Every person on MUs roster would have been called for a foul on that offensive rebound by Villanova
The fact that was not a foul when compared to Harry's 3rd foul is laughable.
To emphasize how much the officials impacted this game:
Our eFG%: 59.8%
Their eFG%: 56.9%
Rebounding: Identical
Assists:
Us: 16
Them: 8
Fouls:
Us: 22
Them: 14
10 point advantage at the FT line.
9 of our 12 FTs were from #thething.
That is with us attacking the rim more than normal. Not an aggressiveness thing, as both teams took the exact same number of 3s. Simply officiating.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on January 28, 2018, 01:58:54 PM
Howard must think he has to shoot every time he touches the ball
Ironic, but if he doesn't play at all in the second half we win by double digits. Not his day.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on January 28, 2018, 02:15:54 PM
5-18 from Howard did not help,and Sam only had 5
And we still could have won.
Bizarre that Markus and AR rarely both play well at the same time.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2018, 02:17:29 PM
The fact that was not a foul when compared to Harry's 3rd foul is laughable.
Yeah, he apparently had his hand on someone's back at the same time he was going up with both hands for the rebound. Elmore saw it
If we play we that intensity, we win the rest of our home games.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2018, 02:13:28 PM
Every person on MUs roster would have been called for a foul on that offensive rebound by Villanova
I wasn't able to see most of the game, so I can't comment on the calls on MU, but I don't think that was an over the back - https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096 (https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096)
Bridges gets the first hand to the ball and Cain leaves him opening/doesn't go up strong. He's a freshman and will continue to add muscle, it happens.
Heck of an effort.
But Transition defense and an inability to avoid getting our bigs switched on to Brunson we're the keys to the loss.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 28, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
I wasn't able to see most of the game, so I can't comment on the calls on MU, but I don't think that was an over the back - https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096 (https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096)
Bridges gets the first hand to the ball and Cain leaves him opening/doesn't go up strong. He's a freshman and will continue to add muscle, it happens.
You can jump over someone's back and slam them to the ground? Since when?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2018, 02:17:29 PM
The fact that was not a foul when compared to Harry's 3rd foul is laughable.
The world according to Elmore, if you don't box out, you cannot be fouled on a rebound.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 28, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
I wasn't able to see most of the game, so I can't comment on the calls on MU, but I don't think that was an over the back - https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096 (https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096)
Bridges gets the first hand to the ball and Cain leaves him opening/doesn't go up strong. He's a freshman and will continue to add muscle, it happens.
You can't go through the person with position to get the rebound. Bridges clearly went through him. It doesn't matter if he got his hand on the ball first. That seemed to be the way they called it a lot though.
They seemed to think that it is ok if you go through the guy and foul the crap out of him if you get a hand on the ball.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 28, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
I wasn't able to see most of the game, so I can't comment on the calls on MU, but I don't think that was an over the back - https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096 (https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096)
Bridges gets the first hand to the ball and Cain leaves him opening/doesn't go up strong. He's a freshman and will continue to add muscle, it happens.
1. Compare it to Frolings foul.
2. I didn't actually say it was a foul, I said every person on MUs roster would be called for a foul on that play and I stand by it
I'm not going to complain about a missed call there. Shouldn't even been an issue if someone gets a body on and boxes out Bridges. Officials will rarely call a foul in a rebounding scramble like at the end of the game.
The Anim play on the other end, I don't know. Even on the replay it was hard to tell if it was clean or if Bridges hit his hand.
Quote from: MUEng92 on January 28, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
1. Compare it to Frolings foul.
2. I didn't actually say it was a foul, I said every person on MUs roster would be called for a foul on that play and I stand by it
This is what some don't seem to understand. Was that a foul...possibly. It is a 50/50 type call. In this game, that would have been a foul on us, it was not a foul when they did it.
There were a few blatantly bad calls (Froling's over the back: Froling being knocked to the floor playing D in the post), they all went against MU.
There was a lot of body contact on drives to the hoop. They were fouls against us, they were not fouls against them. That led to a huge FT disparity (benefiting them) and foul trouble hurting us.
To claim that unbalanced officiating and inconsistent officiating did not impact the game suggests a lack of understanding from a players perspective.
Quote from: MUBurrow on January 28, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
I wasn't able to see most of the game, so I can't comment on the calls on MU, but I don't think that was an over the back - https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096 (https://twitter.com/NovaMBB/status/957708218037252096)
Bridges gets the first hand to the ball and Cain leaves him opening/doesn't go up strong. He's a freshman and will continue to add muscle, it happens.
First to the ball is irrelevant. If bridges makes contact with a player in position its a push. That was 100% a push. Had he gotten the ball over him without making contact it's legal.
Fyi over the back doesn't exist. But he did push the ever loving crap out of him
I'll admit, seeing that replay on twitter, the foul wasn't as bad as I thought it was live. Still think it was foul, especially compared to what had been called earlier in the game, but can understand why it wasn't called.
I might try and go back and find it, but there was another huge missed call.
On an inbounds play, Rowsey throws it to Froling who fakes the handoff back to Rowsey and drives the baseline. Gets pushed by his defender and winds up throwing it away. Should have been a foul and a ref standing right there.
OK - found it. It was with 8:30 to go and MU down 71-64. VU got a lay up off the TO.
In any given game, one team is going to get more calls than the other. I certainly feel like Nova got more this game, but I don't think it was that unbalanced. Difference was that Nova was able to capitolize on all of them. It seemed like the missed calls on Nova always led to a Wildcat run. That's a credit to Nova and a mark against us for letting missed calls get us rattled.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 28, 2018, 03:07:42 PMDifference was that Nova was able to capitolize on all of them.
Makes sense, the stable genius knows everything about basketball and always wins. Wonder if he will take credit for the win
The last minute and half in the first half and the last minute of the second half decided the game. Both were impacted significantly by poor officiating.
Quote from: TheGym on January 28, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
The last minute and half in the first half and the last minute of the second half decided the game. Both were impacted significantly by poor officiating.
Yup. Totally agree. Our horrible defense seems to just get compounded by iffy calls. But then, we probably don't get the benefit of the doubt on iffy calls because we're so bad on defense.