Is there any reason not to bet "the mortgage" with this? Has anyone watched Georgetown this year? I have a very hard time believing MU would not cover this spread.
Quote from: MUpilot on December 28, 2017, 05:50:12 PM
Is there any reason not to bet "the mortgage" with this? Has anyone watched Georgetown this year? I have a very hard time believing MU would not cover this spread.
Just watched the 2nd half vs. Butler. They were not very good.
Wouldn't surprise me to see MU win by 10+. G'Tpwn has a lot of size, but MU should be able to score and get decent looks at 3s.
They gotta win this one. MU cant keep losing home games.
Pomeroy has it as MU by 8. I expect a double-digit win, and possibly a very heavy double-digit win. Georgetown completely capitulated at home against a Butler team that just doesn't look very good. They did nothing to prepare for the harder part of their schedule. It would not surprise me at all if Georgetown has won their last game of the season already.
Quote from: MUpilot on December 28, 2017, 05:50:12 PM
Is there any reason not to bet "the mortgage" with this? Has anyone watched Georgetown this year? I have a very hard time believing MU would not cover this spread.
Where is that spread?
I'm not a betting man but I would take MU.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 28, 2017, 06:09:13 PM
Pomeroy has it as MU by 8. I expect a double-digit win, and possibly a very heavy double-digit win. Georgetown completely capitulated at home against a Butler team that just doesn't look very good. They did nothing to prepare for the harder part of their schedule. It would not surprise me at all if Georgetown has won their last game of the season already.
Come on.....they aren't going to lose 19 games in a row.
GT wouldn't have been up on BT 18 at the half if it didn't have some flash of talent. BUT...I saw the last quarter of the Syracuse game and they can not hold it together for a whole game. Syracuse wasn't good either. Opportunity to press them...they are a turnover machine when the pressure is on.
I say GT wins ~4 in BE.
Quote from: GoldenZebra on December 28, 2017, 05:57:54 PM
They gotta win this one. MU cant keep losing home games.
Road teams 3-0 last night and winning both games tonight(Providence only up by 1 as I type this).
Quote from: MuMark on December 28, 2017, 06:25:18 PM
Come on.....they aren't going to lose 19 games in a row.
I'm not saying it's likely, but it truly wouldn't surprise me. I think Georgetown is the worst team in the league by a fair margin. I would put them behind DePaul and frankly don't rate Butler much better than those two. I think GT's two most likely wins were DePaul and Butler at home. They might steal one here or there, might even win 4-5 Big East games, but 0-19 (including MSG) isn't outside the realm of possibility.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 28, 2017, 06:45:51 PM
I'm not saying it's likely, but it truly wouldn't surprise me. I think Georgetown is the worst team in the league by a fair margin. I would put them behind DePaul and frankly don't rate Butler much better than those two. I think GT's two most likely wins were DePaul and Butler at home. They might steal one here or there, might even win 4-5 Big East games, but 0-19 (including MSG) isn't outside the realm of possibility.
You are right....it's not out of the realm of possibility........Pomeroy says they have a .3%......not 3%.....point 3...
Where is this spread? Don't see it anywhere and it also implies Georgetown would be favored over MU anywhere but Milwaukee.
If I see this spread on any website that I can actually get money into I'm betting the house
I'm MU is only giving 2 to Georgetown I'm talking to some loansharks tomorrow
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on December 28, 2017, 07:50:49 PM
Where is this spread? Don't see it anywhere and it also implies Georgetown would be favored over MU anywhere but Milwaukee.
If I see this spread on any website that I can actually get money into I'm betting the house
This must have been a mistake, I'd expect it to open -9.
There is zero chance, none, zilch this opens MU -2. Every power rating site has it between -8 and -9.
http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/marquette-golden-eagles-vs-georgetown-hoyas-point-spread--betting-preview-hints-at-winner-january-05-2013
3rd paragraph is saying opening line is at MU-2
Quote from: MUpilot on December 28, 2017, 09:50:19 PM
http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/marquette-golden-eagles-vs-georgetown-hoyas-point-spread--betting-preview-hints-at-winner-january-05-2013
3rd paragraph is saying opening line is at MU-2
That article is from 2013, as others have said this will be no where near a 2 point spread when the line comes out at some point tomorrow afternoon
Georgetown looked pretty good to me. Derrickson and Govan are tough bigs. Derrickson is a very good shooter and clutch. I still think we are better than them oveall, but it is not going to be a romp.
Quote from: Smokin' Jae on December 28, 2017, 10:02:16 PM
That article is from 2013, as others have said this will be no where near a 2 point spread when the line comes out at some point tomorrow afternoon
Figures. Thanks for the news..
I only watched part of one early game. What I notice was Georgetown's size and how they blocked out on rebounds. MU will be in trouble, if they are missing their threes.
Yeah this spread will be 6 at the lowest. MU -7 sounds about right
Ask yourself this, "are bookies more right than wrong?" Stranger things happen in basketball than MU not covering the spread. For example, we beat `Nova last year after losing to them. Don't bet what you can not loose. It is likely we will cover the spread but there is a risk if your spread is correct.
You're right, 71. I've been screwed in the past on crazy, crazy plays. Don't bet what you can't lose indeed. I wouldn't put up the house with MU -2 vs. Georgetown, but maybe the garage.
Quote from: MuMark on December 28, 2017, 06:56:01 PM
When was the last time a big East team went winless?
Last winless BE team was DePaul in 2009. Only team to go winless in BE play since MU joined the league in '05. Don't have the time right now to go back further.
Quote from: Eye on December 29, 2017, 08:11:47 AM
Last winless BE team was DePaul in 2009. Only team to go winless in BE play since MU joined the league in '05. Don't have the time right now to go back further.
We had a bad loss to DePaul (is there ever a good loss to them?) right around then - 2008 or 2010. Was that the only conference game they won that year?
Quote from: warriorchick on December 29, 2017, 08:15:30 AM
We had a bad loss to DePaul (is there ever a good loss to them?) right around then - 2008 or 2010. Was that the only conference game they won that year?
Yes, in 2010. The next year their only win was at Providence. DePaul went 2-52 in conference games for a three year stretch.
Last year they were surprisingly close to another 0-fer. Two wins by a combined 3 points over Providence and Georgetown. DePaul rallied from 9 down with 1:50 to play to beat Providence with the winning points scored on a Garrett layup-and-one with 4 seconds to play. At Georgetown they trailed by 4 with 1:03 to play before another rally led to Garrett sinking the winning free throws with 2 seconds on the clock. Pomeroy had both games as 95% loss probability with under 2:00 to play.
Quote from: MUBigDance on December 28, 2017, 06:41:03 PM
GT wouldn't have been up on BT 18 at the half if it didn't have some flash of talent. BUT...I saw the last quarter of the Syracuse game and they can not hold it together for a whole game. Syracuse wasn't good either. Opportunity to press them...they are a turnover machine when the pressure is on.
I say GT wins ~4 in BE.
Sounds like a recipe for some Cain/Elliott action
Quote from: Eye on December 29, 2017, 08:11:47 AM
Last winless BE team was DePaul in 2009. Only team to go winless in BE play since MU joined the league in '05. Don't have the time right now to go back further.
Miami in 93-94...
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/big-east/1994.html
Edited to add: And Providence in Year 1 but they only played six games.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 29, 2017, 12:01:47 PM
Miami in 93-94...
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/big-east/1994.html
Edited to add: And Providence in Year 1 but they only played six games.
I had completely forgotten that Miami spent over a decade in the Big East.
I think DePaul won a BE tournament game in the 0-18 year. 3-55 in 3 years including BET.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on December 29, 2017, 12:50:32 PM
I think DePaul won a BE tournament game in the 0-18 year. 3-55 in 3 years including BET.
Yup, knocked off Cincinnati at MSG for their only win that season after the New Year.
Northern Illinois is a 15 point dog to Iowa tonight. Seems like a good bet.
Looks like we opened up as a 9 point favorite. Let's get the W and cover!
Quote from: mubb3434 on December 29, 2017, 04:10:39 PM
Looks like we opened up as a 9 point favorite. Let's get the W and cover!
Damn. Hope that drops down to 7.5 or 8 by tomorrow. 9 is a little much for me to bet. Seems about right.
My CBS Sports App, is showing MU -9.5
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on December 29, 2017, 03:11:06 PM
Northern Illinois is a 15 point dog to Iowa tonight. Seems like a good bet.
I saw that—and jumped on NIU.
I think the better option is Nova -6 at Butler tomorrow
Yep. Took WVU so I'm a net zero.
Quote from: MUpilot on December 28, 2017, 05:50:12 PM
Is there any reason not to bet "the mortgage" with this? Has anyone watched Georgetown this year? I have a very hard time believing MU would not cover this spread.
That depends, have you watched any game MU has played against an Illinois team?
Quote from: MUpilot on December 29, 2017, 08:01:04 PM
I think the better option is Nova -6 at Butler tomorrow
I've got them at Nova -5.
MU -9.5 thats a little stiff for me (nh).
Vegas consensus now seems to be MU -10.
At the Westgate, the line actually hit MU -10.5 for a while this morning but some decent money came in on Georgetown to take it back to MU -10, where it is currently.
I'm not too into lines....but what was the line on the GT/Butler game?
Quote from: MUBigDance on December 30, 2017, 02:22:29 PM
I'm not too into lines....but what was the line on the GT/Butler game?
Final line was Butler -4.
Whaddya know they win by 9. Unbelievable.