1. So, Froling doesn't walk on water.
2. Other than getting the win, the most important thing is that Rowsey was walking under his own power. That was scary.
3. I hate having only 9 scholarship players. Dammit, Haanif. Could've used you tonight.
4. Dear lord, the officiating was spectacularly crappy.
5. Once again, flashes from the freshmen. I hope they all stay around 4 years. I look forward to watching their growth.
6. Amazingly, it was a defensive push that turned the game.
7. Heal quickly, Andrew.
Pretty good defense down the stretch in the 2nd. Froling hardly playing was a bummer, wouldve liked to see what he could do, but apparently it was not enough to keep him on the floor. Hopefully this was just a "rust" game, otherwise its gonna be a long season.
Refs just called another foul on Theo for taking his shoes off in the locker room.
Got the win and it looks like Rowsey will be alright. On to the next.
The refs are picking up their paycheck after that game. I won't feel bad if I screw up a calculation tomorrow.
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on December 18, 2017, 08:17:09 PM
Got the win and it looks like Rowsey will be alright. On to the next.
I hope you are right. Looked like his knee twisted awkwardly, was figuring at least a knee sprain (mcl; e.g. Steph Curry).
Quote from: forgetful on December 18, 2017, 08:20:17 PM
I hope you are right. Looked like his knee twisted awkwardly, was figuring at least a knee sprain (mcl; e.g. Steph Curry).
At least he was on the bench by the end of the game; the way the announcers were talking at first it sounded as if he ruptured his Achilles or something.
He was walking without favoring it.
47 total fouls. 23 for NIU, 24 for MU. hard to watch.
NIU was 25 for 33 and MU was 14 for 20.
Theo played significant minutes tonight and if not for those fouls, might have seen more PT. Getting groomed for BE play??
When Rowsey went out, Cain came in, not Elliott. Hauser and Sacar helped Howard bring the ball up court. Another interesting substitution. Cain a lot of PT also tonight.
That German kid is pretty good.
Dr. Bardo and his achilles diagnosis was a bit scary at first.
Theo is pretty good when he keeps himself on the floor. Now if only the refs would also let him stay on the floor.
Hope we can pummel American. Froling needs some run. Couldn't get into the flow, and Theo had his best game.
Rebounding was an issue. Froling should help with it, actually managed a couple in the little bit he played.
Cain was our leading rebounder. His defense is also getting much better. Like what I see.
If anyone wondered whether Markus could make free throws blindfolded, he basically did.
Quote from: fjm on December 18, 2017, 08:15:37 PM
Refs just called another foul on Theo for taking his shoes off in the locker room.
Doesn't matter. He was called for his fifth foul when he shook hands with German after the game.
* Survived a very poor shooting night
* Hated that NIU was able to drive the paint at will. Looks like a blueprint to defeat us.
* Easily Theo's best game, despite refs insistence that he play with one arm behind his back
* Cain's length and athleticism -- wow
Quote from: nyg on December 18, 2017, 08:26:47 PM
NIU was 25 for 33 and MU was 14 for 20.
And yet MU won by 9. Exhibit A for why #ftnomatta.
German has the quickest first step I've ever seen. Sacar kept the ball out of his hands by face guarding him/playing great D and that led to our run/10 pt lead.
Rebounding was atrocious
#thething didn't happen tonight
I could be wrong but I think our kenpom rating actually went down
Pretty cool seeing Wade and Crowder get on their feet after the follow up dunk by Cain.
Quote from: mupanther on December 18, 2017, 09:07:41 PM
Pretty cool seeing Wade and Crowder get on their feet after the follow up dunk by Cain.
All the guys hung around at their seats after the game to sign autographs. Very cool of them.
I think Cain is going to pass up Elliott in the rotation minute-wise. He's has more offensive burst and he is defending at a high level. Elliott is good, but I kind of think we have seen what we are going to see from him this year.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 18, 2017, 09:16:40 PM
I think Cain is going to pass up Elliott in the rotation minute-wise. He's has more offensive burst and he is defending at a high level. Elliott is good, but I kind of think we have seen what we are going to see from him this year.
Cain can hit an open jumper too.
I saw a tweet from Marquette Sports Wire with a sweet postgame stat breaktown. Anyone know what this website/software is? See attached.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 18, 2017, 09:16:40 PM
I think Cain is going to pass up Elliott in the rotation minute-wise. He's has more offensive burst and he is defending at a high level. Elliott is good, but I kind of think we have seen what we are going to see from him this year.
Is Elliot going to become a great player with his current jump shot?
Great player? Probably not. Consistent player who can score some points, play defense and dish out some assists? Most definitely.
Very impressed with Cain. Earlier in the year, it seemed Wojo preferred Elliott. Maybe Cain outworked him in practice and made more progress; if so, I'm glad that's being rewarded.
Markus didn't have his shooting stroke but he did a good job of taking it to the basket. Missed a couple of bunnies he normally makes. Also took a quick shot and had a sloppy turnover when we had about a 14-point lead with 4 minutes to go. He's a smart kid, and he needs to be basketball-smarter than that.
Hopefully Rowsey is OK. If he's less than 95%, I hope he sits out against American.
Nice game by Theo. Heldt was bad for the first half and some of the second, but actually played very well down the stretch.
Perhaps the poorest officiated game we've had. There was a stretch that replays showed they badly missed 3 straight calls.
I laughed out loud when FS1 kept showing a replay of a supposedly questionable ball-out-of-bounds call, and the announcers kept commenting on it. a sequence that went on for what had to be 5 minutes. But that play actually had been long over and the questionable call was on the NEXT play. The ball went to Marquette, they showed one quick replay of it that was a poor angle and revealed nothing, and the announcers blew it off.
When does Froling make his Marquette debut?
We got the win over which is all that matters. The other team was well coached and had a couple decent players and played with competitive fire . So in the greater scheme of things we did a good job tonight. The team is still on track for a very strong season .
Bad snarl up on 94 before the curve. So much oil on the road, almost lost it trying to accelerate it after the wreck.
Quote from: PTM on December 18, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
Bad snarl up on 94 before the curve. So much oil on the road, almost lost it trying to accelerate it after the wreck.
Got off before the backup as they closed all the lanes.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 18, 2017, 10:24:36 PM
Got off before the backup as they closed all the lanes.
Tried getting off at Holt, couldn't make it over in time. Looked like a Mercedes tried to fancy between two semis
Any actual word on Rowsey?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 18, 2017, 10:34:51 PM
Any actual word on Rowsey?
According to Dr. Bardo its potentially an achilles.
Tom Eades may have edged out James Breeding as the worst major conference official. Les Jones looked like was trying to burn off all his excessive Thanksgiving Day calories. If there was ever a worst set of officials in one game, I would be stunned.
Poor Roger Ayers being matched with these two. If Eades shows up at a Big East Conference game, Stu Jackson should be fired. I trust Stu.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 18, 2017, 10:34:51 PM
Any actual word on Rowsey?
Wojo said "tests tonight" in his postgame presser. Nothing further. It sounded ominous, but I might be reading in too much.
Don't know anything, but I'd think that if they were worried about it, you'd think they'd have wrapped it up and iced it?
Quote from: rstein27 on December 18, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
Don't know anything, but I'd think that if they were worried about it, you'd think they'd have wrapped it up and iced it?
Probably thought they would just chop it off in the tunnel
Quote from: PTM on December 18, 2017, 10:26:14 PM
Tried getting off at Holt, couldn't make it over in time. Looked like a Mercedes tried to fancy between two semis
Illinois plates, hey?
I noticed two powerful looking guys dressed in street clothes on the bench. Who were they?
Quote from: alexius23 on December 19, 2017, 05:22:47 AM
I noticed two powerful looking guys dressed in street clothes on the bench. Who were they?
Ed and Ike?
A couple of thoughts from last night:
1) The officiating wasn't just bad, it was inconsistent. You can get into a rhythm with even bad officiating, but when the refs are inconsistent as they were last night, it's tough to watch a game. Period.
2) Bardo made an interesting point about halfway through the game in that Theo was so strong and powerful, it's outside what the officials are used to seeing. He suggested that once the refs see more of him and what he can do, the fouls will go down. Probably some truth to Dr. Bardo's thoughts.
3) If Rowsey were really hurt, he would not have been back on the bench at the end of the game.
4) The defense NIU put on us was interesting and suggests a formula for Big East Play. They were in our face a good part of the evening. Bad news: cuts down on the 3s. Good news: opens up the lanes to drive. I actually suspect Wojo went into this game with the goal of getting AR and Markus to drive the basket rather than park out in never ever land and drop 3s.
I hope Harry gets to play on Thursday as the NIU game was more competitive than expected. We need all 9 guys this season. I was surprised Wojo did not put him in when we were up 12-14 point with about 2 minutes to play.
Theo is our banger on the boards.
Key to the game was switching Sacar on to German. Markus simply could not deny him the ball and could not stay in front of him.
And that's what happens when our shots don't fall.
We took a lot of bad threes last night. I hate those threes where we're sprinting away from the hoop to catch the pass then wheel and fire. Those and the "What the hell, I guess I'll shoot" threes. We do not need to force those. We can run more offense and look for something better. We shot a good percentage on the in rhythm attempts, though Hauser (who seemingly never takes a bad shot) missed some excellent in-rhythm opportunities.
I officially get a little nervous now when Howard goes to the line. I don't want him to miss. He had a couple actually bounce on the rim last night.
Like everyone else, very disappointed in how little we saw of Froling and how uncomfortable he looked on the floor.
NIU very quick and athletic, certainly more so than us.
The freshmen played well last night. I think they are all destined to be valuable role players rather than stars, the kind of guys you need to be successful.
Rust game, didn't play well, but the game wasn't in doubt last 6 minutes or so. Take it and move on.
Quote from: dgies9156 on December 19, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
A couple of thoughts from last night:
1) The officiating wasn't just bad, it was inconsistent. You can get into a rhythm with even bad officiating, but when the refs are inconsistent as they were last night, it's tough to watch a game. Period.
2) Bardo made an interesting point about halfway through the game in that Theo was so strong and powerful, it's outside what the officials are used to seeing. He suggested that once the refs see more of him and what he can do, the fouls will go down. Probably some truth to Dr. Bardo's thoughts.
3) If Rowsey were really hurt, he would not have been back on the bench at the end of the game.
4) The defense NIU put on us was interesting and suggests a formula for Big East Play. They were in our face a good part of the evening. Bad news: cuts down on the 3s. Good news: opens up the lanes to drive. I actually suspect Wojo went into this game with the goal of getting AR and Markus to drive the basket rather than park out in never ever land and drop 3s.
The fact that he was on the bench, doesn't mean he doesn't have a major injury. I will say, the fact he wasn't using crutches is a good sign.
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 19, 2017, 07:15:42 AM
We took a lot of bad threes last night. I hate those threes where we're sprinting away from the hoop to catch the pass then wheel and fire. Those and the "What the hell, I guess I'll shoot" threes. We do not need to force those. We can run more offense and look for something better. We shot a good percentage on the in rhythm attempts, though Hauser (who seemingly never takes a bad shot) missed some excellent in-rhythm opportunities.
I officially get a little nervous now when Howard goes to the line. I don't want him to miss. He had a couple actually bounce on the rim last night.
Like everyone else, very disappointed in how little we saw of Froling and how uncomfortable he looked on the floor.
NIU very quick and athletic, certainly more so than us.
The freshmen played well last night. I think they are all destined to be valuable role players rather than stars, the kind of guys you need to be successful.
Rust game, didn't play well, but the game wasn't in doubt last 6 minutes or so. Take it and move on.
CT, that 'wheel route' play is one of our most productive. The problem last night is that our shooters were rushing it too often and not getting squared up. Some nights our elite shooters' shots won't fall. Last night was one of those nights.
The key was that despite this, we held NIU to 38% from the field. We won't lose many (any?) games when we successfully accomplish that. Credit to Sacar, Matty, Theo, Sam and Jamal for that nice effort at the defensive end.
>Wojo not pleased with the offensive flow.
>The rebounding effort was substandard to say the least, letting NIU in the game.
>Seemed like German walked on just about every play. Thought the trap slowed him down and allowed MU to build their cushion.
>Hope Andrew's knee checks out with the MRI. Curtains if he is out.
>Continue to like the freshmen minutes.
>Sam does not make many errors. Markus still made it happen on not his best shooting night--that is what stars do.
>Late arriving but pretty good turnout, especially with students gone. So, is MU really going to put students courtside? Will be a ghost town for the break Big East games.
Quote from: dgies9156 on December 19, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
A couple of thoughts from last night:
1) The officiating wasn't just bad, it was inconsistent. You can get into a rhythm with even bad officiating, but when the refs are inconsistent as they were last night, it's tough to watch a game. Period.
2) Bardo made an interesting point about halfway through the game in that Theo was so strong and powerful, it's outside what the officials are used to seeing. He suggested that once the refs see more of him and what he can do, the fouls will go down. Probably some truth to Dr. Bardo's thoughts.
3) If Rowsey were really hurt, he would not have been back on the bench at the end of the game.
4) The defense NIU put on us was interesting and suggests a formula for Big East Play. They were in our face a good part of the evening. Bad news: cuts down on the 3s. Good news: opens up the lanes to drive. I actually suspect Wojo went into this game with the goal of getting AR and Markus to drive the basket rather than park out in never ever land and drop 3s.
Wrong Theo fouls a lot. Last night he had some very bad calls on him but he also had a few fouls that were not called
Quote from: tower912 on December 18, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
1. So, Froling doesn't walk on water.
2. Other than getting the win, the most important thing is that Rowsey was walking under his own power. That was scary.
3. I hate having only 9 scholarship players. Dammit, Haanif. Could've used you tonight.
4. Dear lord, the officiating was spectacularly crappy.
5. Once again, flashes from the freshmen. I hope they all stay around 4 years. I look forward to watching their growth.
6. Amazingly, it was a defensive push that turned the game.
7. Heal quickly, Andrew.
FIFY
One concern I have is that Greg and Sacar are shooting 11.1% (1-9) and 8.3% (1-12) from three-point range.
Granted, it's a small sample size and there's lots of season left to play. Hit a couple in a row and triple your percentage. Plus, offense doesn't seem to be an issue with this team. But that's just awful. Two seasons ago, I was criticizing Henry for shooting under 30% on 3-pointers.
Quote from: MUDPT on December 19, 2017, 07:16:46 AM
The fact that he was on the bench, doesn't mean he doesn't have a major injury. I will say, the fact he wasn't using crutches is a good sign.
Agreed. I've torn two ligaments in my knees. One, I could walk on under my own power after the injury, but clearly knew it was injured. The other (only partial tear), after about 30 seconds, I was able to get back up and play basketball for another 15 minutes.
Hoping he is ok.
Quote from: Marcus92 on December 19, 2017, 09:48:07 AM
One concern I have is that Greg and Sacar are shooting 11.1% (1-9) and 8.3% (1-12) from three-point range.
Granted, it's a small sample size and there's lots of season left to play. Hit a couple in a row and triple your percentage. Plus, offense doesn't seem to be an issue with this team. But that's just awful. Two seasons ago, I was criticizing Henry for shooting under 30% on 3-pointers.
I'm perfectly fine with those guys taking one or two wide open 3s per game, regardless of their percentage right now.
Need to keep the defense honest to open driving lanes.
Thread title should be "From Harry to Hairy."
TJ having a solid game. I'm hoping the more physical BEast games will suit his style and perhaps 'let him play' and 'let them bang' attitude will get him more time.
Cain. . . .wow! That follow up dunk was nice to see. The defensive effort.
Sacar with the face guard just about sealed the game and it definitely turned the tide. The guy is a testament to embracing a redshirt year and getting better.
Matty Heldt. . .did he read my post dogging him about just turning his shoulder when guys go to dunk? That guy was blocking shots out of bounds. He was challenging shots with both hands up in the air. Matty . . . .if you are reading this, then I'm sorry! Now finish that role with a dunk!
Quote from: lohaus on December 19, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
TJ having a solid game. I'm hoping the more physical BEast games will suit his style and perhaps 'let him play' and 'let them bang' attitude will get him more time.
Cain. . . .wow! That follow up dunk was nice to see. The defensive effort.
Sacar with the face guard just about sealed the game and it definitely turned the tide. The guy is a testament to embracing a redshirt year and getting better.
Matty Heldt. . .did he read my post dogging him about just turning his shoulder when guys go to dunk? That guy was blocking shots out of bounds. He was challenging shots with both hands up in the air. Matty . . . .if you are reading this, then I'm sorry! Now finish that role with a dunk!
Yep. He was blocking those shots so hard it looked like he was trying to get souvenir basketballs into the upper deck.
Quote from: barfolomew on December 19, 2017, 10:01:39 AM
I'm perfectly fine with those guys taking one or two wide open 3s per game, regardless of their percentage right now.
Need to keep the defense honest to open driving lanes.
Taking one open shot every game is incredibly hard, it would be better if they would take a few more if the other players would give up the ball. Howard and Rowsey
are somewhat ball hogs. At times because of that, there is to much standing around and not enough ball movement. If the team wants to improve during Big East play,
those kids have to improve and to improve you can not take 1 shot a game like that.
Literally the last thing I worry about on this team is it's outside shooting. Elliott and Sacar should still take those shots if they are in game rhythm, but I would like them to continue to attack the basket.
We've won 6 of our last 7 and heading into BE play we likely will have won 7 of our last 8. Not bad
Any word on Rowsey?
1) Get Healthy. Shots will fall.
Really enjoy watching the Warriors fight their way to a win. NIU looked much better than the rodents.
Tom Eades sure had an off night. It is hard to believe he is ranked as one the top refs.
Tom Eadeshas officiated the NCAA Division I Men's Championship Game and has refereed in 3 Final Fours including 2012 in New Orleans & 2016 in Houston. He has worked numerous conference tournaments during his career.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 19, 2017, 11:17:11 AM
Literally the last thing I worry about on this team is it's outside shooting. Elliott and Sacar should still take those shots if they are in game rhythm, but I would like them to continue to attack the basket.
I don't worry about outside shooting as long as it's Markus, Sam, Rowsey and maybe Froling shooting the ball. Nothing I've seen shows me that Sacar or Elliott are good enough from the outside to be putting up 3s.
Quote from: lohaus on December 19, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
TJ having a solid game. I'm hoping the more physical BEast games will suit his style and perhaps 'let him play' and 'let them bang' attitude will get him more time.
Cain. . . .wow! That follow up dunk was nice to see. The defensive effort.
Sacar with the face guard just about sealed the game and it definitely turned the tide. The guy is a testament to embracing a redshirt year and getting better.
Matty Heldt. . .did he read my post dogging him about just turning his shoulder when guys go to dunk? That guy was blocking shots out of bounds. He was challenging shots with both hands up in the air. Matty . . . .if you are reading this, then I'm sorry! Now finish that role with a dunk!
Quote from: lohaus on December 19, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
TJ having a solid game. I'm hoping the more physical BEast games will suit his style and perhaps 'let him play' and 'let them bang' attitude will get him more time.
Cain. . . .wow! That follow up dunk was nice to see. The defensive effort.
Sacar with the face guard just about sealed the game and it definitely turned the tide. The guy is a testament to embracing a redshirt year and getting better.
Matty Heldt. . .did he read my post dogging him about just turning his shoulder when guys go to dunk? That guy was blocking shots out of bounds. He was challenging shots with both hands up in the air. Matty . . . .if you are reading this, then I'm sorry! Now finish that role with a dunk!
Cover 2 defense!
The SAC ur Man!
Sacar is shooting less than 10% from three. Drive n kick or drive plz n werk on 3 in practice
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 20, 2017, 01:44:59 AM
Sacar is shooting less than 10% from three. Drive n kick or drive plz n werk on 3 in practice
On what, 11 attempts? He needs to
Shoot the 3 when he's left wide open.
Yeah the idea that wing/guard players should be not allowed to shoot the 3 is silly.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 20, 2017, 08:41:08 AM
Yeah the idea that wing/guard players should be not allowed to shoot the 3 is silly.
The Rodman Rule
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 20, 2017, 08:41:08 AM
Yeah the idea that wing/guard players should be not allowed to shoot the 3 is silly.
No. What's silly is that players should be encouraged/allowed to shoot open 3 point shots based on the position they play rather than their ability to actually make them.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 20, 2017, 08:41:08 AM
Yeah the idea that wing/guard players should be not allowed to shoot the 3 is silly.
nm
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2017, 08:51:28 AM
No. What's silly is that players should be encouraged/allowed to shoot open 3 point shots based on the position they play rather than their ability to actually make them.
Sacar can make them. Coaches can't get in their head too much.
Should he be taking them off the dribble or contested like Markus and Rowsey do? No. Should he take them when he is in rhythm with the defender sagging off? Absolutely.
He's taken just over one a game. That's fine. Not even worth worrying about.
Quote from: Sultan of Kookiness on December 20, 2017, 09:09:47 AM
Sacar can make them.
What are you basing this on? He just doesn't seem like much of a shooter to me. Question may sound snarky, but I'd really be interested if you have something to back up the idea that he can make them often enough that it is worthwhile for him to shoot them. If he shoots and misses them it doesn't make the defense more honest covering him. Derrick Wilson was always left wide open at the three point line and I wouldn't want him shooting them either. He would occasionally brick one but that didn't mean the opponents would start guarding him there.
I agree that one a game is no big deal.
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 20, 2017, 09:45:27 AM
What are you basing this on? He just doesn't seem like much of a shooter to me. Question may sound snarky, but I'd really be interested if you have something to back up the idea that he can make them often enough that it is worthwhile for him to shoot them. If he shoots and misses them it doesn't make the defense more honest covering him. Derrick Wilson was always left wide open at the three point line and I wouldn't want him shooting them either. He would occasionally brick one but that didn't mean the opponents would start guarding him there.
I agree that one a game is no big deal.
He came to Marquette with the reputation of a streaky shooter, but not an absolute terrible shooter like Derrick. 1/11 isn't good, but I think he could hit three or four of his next nine.
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 20, 2017, 09:45:27 AM
What are you basing this on? He just doesn't seem like much of a shooter to me. Question may sound snarky, but I'd really be interested if you have something to back up the idea that he can make them often enough that it is worthwhile for him to shoot them. If he shoots and misses them it doesn't make the defense more honest covering him. Derrick Wilson was always left wide open at the three point line and I wouldn't want him shooting them either. He would occasionally brick one but that didn't mean the opponents would start guarding him there.
I agree that one a game is no big deal.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I remember comments from teammates last year that one of the things that he had really improved on while redshirting was his shooting.
So far, it has not seemed to translate to game flow, but that may be because he isn't taking enough shots to get into rhythm--I don't necessarily think he should be taking many 3s, but you want him to feel confident that if he gets an open look to take a shot (yellow light?).
Quote from: MUMountin on December 20, 2017, 10:12:39 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I remember comments from teammates last year that one of the things that he had really improved on while redshirting was his shooting.
So far, it has not seemed to translate to game flow, but that may be because he isn't taking enough shots to get into rhythm--I don't necessarily think he should be taking many 3s, but you want him to feel confident that if he gets an open look to take a shot (yellow light?).
I believe he has the talent for the 3's, but his main Focus is defense (Wojo said he our best) and with our Defense and Offense ratings it seems obvious where the attention should be.
People "believe" Sacar has the talent, think they recall teammates saying his once poor shot had improved or think he had a rep as a streak shooter in high school. Meaningless. His form and his history (including his recent history) say he's a decidedly below average 3 point shooter on a great 3 point shooting team. I'd rather have Rowsey throwing up the off balance. left handed, give me 3 free throws shot than Sacar shooting an open 3. Why? Because he makes 'em at a better %
Sacar has fine form on his jumper. Good release point, it looks fluid. Results haven't been there.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
People "believe" Sacar has the talent, think they recall teammates saying his once poor shot had improved or think he had a rep as a streak shooter in high school. Meaningless. His form and his history (including his recent history) say he's a decidedly below average 3 point shooter on a great 3 point shooting team. I'd rather have Rowsey throwing up the off balance. left handed, give me 3 free throws shot than Sacar shooting an open 3. Why? Because he makes 'em at a better %
Defenses behave differently if they know a player will never attempt a 3pt shot.
See Wilson, Derrick.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
People "believe" Sacar has the talent, think they recall teammates saying his once poor shot had improved or think he had a rep as a streak shooter in high school.
One Quibble here. Your assumption that my comment was based on what Teammates said is wrong. I think you're good, but not to the mind reading level.
No my comment was based on his HS performance 4 Championships and Mr Basketball of MN. These to me are evident he has the talent offensively which has not been focused as much as the Defensive end.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 19, 2017, 07:54:33 AM
>Wojo not pleased with the offensive flow.
>The rebounding effort was substandard to say the least, letting NIU in the game.
>Seemed like German walked on just about every play. Thought the trap slowed him down and allowed MU to build their cushion.
>Hope Andrew's knee checks out with the MRI. Curtains if he is out.
>Continue to like the freshmen minutes.
>Sam does not make many errors. Markus still made it happen on not his best shooting night--that is what stars do.
>Late arriving but pretty good turnout, especially with students gone. So, is MU really going to put students courtside? Will be a ghost town for the break Big East games.
Huh?
Quote from: barfolomew on December 20, 2017, 11:05:15 AM
Defenses behave differently if they know a player will never attempt can make a 3pt shot.
See Wilson, Derrick.
Big difference
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
People "believe" Sacar has the talent, think they recall teammates saying his once poor shot had improved or think he had a rep as a streak shooter in high school. Meaningless. His form and his history (including his recent history) say he's a decidedly below average 3 point shooter on a great 3 point shooting team. I'd rather have Rowsey throwing up the off balance. left handed, give me 3 free throws shot than Sacar shooting an open 3. Why? Because he makes 'em at a better %
Everyone would rather have Rowsey shoot. That doesn't preclude Sacar from shooting as well.
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 20, 2017, 11:22:59 AM
Huh?
Did you miss that thread about new tix prices / sitting in new arena?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2017, 10:37:36 AM
People "believe" Sacar has the talent, think they recall teammates saying his once poor shot had improved or think he had a rep as a streak shooter in high school. Meaningless. His form and his history (including his recent history) say he's a decidedly below average 3 point shooter on a great 3 point shooting team. I'd rather have Rowsey throwing up the off balance. left handed, give me 3 free throws shot than Sacar shooting an open 3. Why? Because he makes 'em at a better %
The dude has shot 11 threes. A little large sample size is warranted before completely dismissing his ability to hit a wide open three.