I called out section 106 but I just wanted to hedge my arguement by saying that the student body as as hole isnt nearly as sloppy as they were (Sloppy is good).
The beer consumption since Fell, Stiglitz, Maloney, Josetti, and Kahle have left their throne at 224 row Z has left a great void in booze consumption at the games. It is truly disheartening to me to not here the boo birds come out when they talk about the sportmanship message.
The Sucks Cheer has gone soft
"You Cant Read" hasnt been used against UC or L-Ville since 2003
Fell, Stiglitz, Josetti, Kahle, and Maloney still find the time to go to road games year in and year out and get so sloppy on the road that we end up eating pizza off sidewalks and get kicked out of hotels rooms.
I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE STUDENT GROUP AT ANY ROAD GAMES IN THE PAST 3 YEARS!!!
PATHETIC!!!!!
Even during the lean times you would see a few student groups roaming about town during an away game getting sloppy and representing Marquette to the fullest!!!!
In fact this last week in Morgantown, Marquette upended the National Champs of Partying by being sloppier, drunker, stupider, and being bigger assholes than WVU students hence we scored a big upset!!
YOU STUDENTS NEED TO GET TO ROAD GAMES.
Go into Credit Card debt, sacrifice a mid-term, break up with your DSHA GF i dont care just get to the games or else MU fans will soon become what Duke fans are (Snotty, dont drink, nerds)
I worked the grounds crew at MU which starts at 6:am than go to my first two classes smelling like Garbage so I could raise money for MU road trips, I skipped a mid-term because of the final 4, I gained 50lbs over a basketball season o beer and fun-yons.
But that is sacrifice.
I CHALLENGE YOU STUDENTS TO GET SLOPPY AND GO TO ROAD GAMES
I AM A 26 YEAR OLD MARRIED LOSER WHO STILL ACTS LIKE I AM 8 BUT GOD DAMN AM I PROUD OF IT
please tell me this is sarcasm. MU students were in full force at ND last year as well as DuhPaul.
NateDogg... nothing but respect here.
I agree that the students have gone soft. there are many times during the home game when students are sitting on their hands and biting their tongues. it takes the kids in 106 to try and get them pumped up. when i was in the student section, it didn't matter where we sat, we were rowdy, loud, devote, and usually fairly intoxicated fans. i would give anything just hear a student yell "your mom works at IHOP" to an opposing player right before a free throw again. students must not realize they are close enough to actually yell and be heard on the court. you don't need to wait for male-leader instructions before opening your yappers to cheer.
oh yeah, and please keep the steal it steal it cheer going.
also, road games are where it's at. Ive followed the team around in the final four run as well as out to NYC for the conference tourney. you see some great places and meet some fun fans.
Quote from: muwarrior87 on January 11, 2008, 08:04:20 AM
please tell me this is sarcasm. MU students were in full force at ND last year as well as DuhPaul.
DePaul can barely be considered a "road game."
Nate, chill out. I'm sure there are plenty of kids going on trips to games. You are suffering from the syndrome experienced by many guys in their 20s who believe no one partied more, drank more, hooked up with more girls, got in more fights, and was generally as bad ass as they were when they were in college. This is their time. They can do what they want with it.
MU gimp ONE, you wish is my command. ;D
Big ups Natedogg, couldn't agree more with everything you have said. I have followed the team to as many places as I could. The best of which may have been during the NCAA tourney, deciding to leave for Indianapolis at about 11:00 or 11:30 PM, waiting 3-4 hours to sober up enough to make the drive and then getting down there eary in the morning to get tickets for the upper upper decks and crashing in the bleachers there until the Illini and ND fans started pouring in. After watching those two play, a friend and I parlayed $15 apiece into dead center court seats maybe 7 rows back for Novak's moneyball OT game against Missourri. Upon calling our friends to find out where they ended up, they had managed to work their way into a box, and even brought back a big bowl of fried chicken for the car ride home. In the words of Leroy Jenkins, "Least I got chicken".
C'mon Nate, we've got one of the best (if not THE best) home-court advantages in the Big East. Calm down.
I'm all for a rowdy student section, but rowdy does not equate to being classless dickwads, which is what you are advocating (and, according to your statements, what you were). Razzing other players can be done effectively without being petty. Cheering loudly can be done without being wasted. And being a hardcore fan can be done without being financially irresponsible.
In other words, be a fan, not a d-bag.
Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 09:23:56 AM
C'mon Nate, we've got one of the best (if not THE best) home-court advantages in the Big East. Calm down.
I'm all for a rowdy student section, but rowdy does not equate to being classless dickwads, which is what you are advocating (and, according to your statements, what you were). Razzing other players can be done effectively without being petty. Cheering loudly can be done without being wasted. And being a hardcore fan can be done without being financially irresponsible.
In other words, be a fan, not a d-bag.
i believe the spirit of the post was that some of the students aren't cheering loudly during home and away games, if i understood correct. and when it comes to "razzing" opposing players, i don't feel there is any other way to do it other than do it other than being petty. we need more "hey number ??, you prefer the company of men" and less "let's go defense."
i do agree that you can be a hardcore fan without being financially irresponsible. all my trips were done on a budget which allowed me to go on more trips.
let's start leaving the name D-Bag for people that really deserve it. some people on here are throwing it out as a blanket term and i fear that it is starting to lose some meaning. here is a quick tutorial... Coach K is a D-Bag along with people like Digger... please use that as a reference point when using the term.
thank you
Nate you are proving once again that you are still a pathetic POS. Keep up the good work with your hockey jersey.
Fell, Stiglitz, Josetti, Kahle, and Maloney.
Calls to mind Diener, Wade, Townsend, Merrit, and Robert Jackson.
Or not.
Nate, good to know you've already sunken to nostalgic ramblings fit for a 60 year old. Keep eating that sidewalk pizza.
NateDoffMarq said: YOU STUDENTS NEED TO GET TO ROAD GAMES.
Go into Credit Card debt, sacrifice a mid-term, break up with your DSHA GF i dont care just get to the games or else MU fans will soon become what Duke fans are (Snotty, dont drink, nerds)
I worked the grounds crew at MU which starts at 6:am than go to my first two classes smelling like Garbage so I could raise money for MU road trips, I skipped a mid-term because of the final 4, I gained 50lbs over a basketball season o beer and fun-yons.
But that is sacrifice.
I CHALLENGE YOU STUDENTS TO GET SLOPPY AND GO TO ROAD GAMES
I AM A 26 YEAR OLD MARRIED LOSER WHO STILL ACTS LIKE I AM 8 BUT GOD DAMN AM I PROUD OF IT
I hope that you realize how utterly pathetic your post is, and how borderline insane your rantings are getting. You are proud of the fact that you skipped a mid-term, smelled like garbage, and gained fifty pounds (that would have been really hilarious to see on your 5'4" frame) to follow basketball, and if the students don't share this level of insanity with you, then they just are nerds who don't care? Wow, you have sunk to a new low, which given your lack of height, is impressive.
But Nate, more importantly, will this drop us one seed line or two?
I would just like to go on record and say that I was the one that brought the bowl of chicken back to the car.
And Strokin we didnt wait 3 hours to sober up to get on the road. I am pretty sure half of us were in the bag until we got into Indiana. Sleeping on a bleacher in the RCA dome will be remembered forever. But getting invited into a suite by an alumni and getting a bowl of chicken as a parting gift will always make me laugh.
I go to games, and I am not that far out of MU (class of 05) and I already see the difference. You know what the difference is?
Admissions, if I applied to Marquette today NO WAY I would get in, they are not letting in ACT 18 - 21s like myself anymore. Those are the guys that have fun. The kids getting into MU are too smart and too weenie. "Oh my god Johnny I cant possibly go to the basketball event today, I have a rather important History exam tomorrow morn"
Shink Shink Shink.
Quote from: That Guy on January 11, 2008, 10:34:21 AM
Admissions, if I applied to Marquette today NO WAY I would get in, they are not letting in ACT 18 - 21s like myself anymore. Those are the guys that have fun. The kids getting into MU are too smart and too weenie. "Oh my god Johnny I cant possibly go to the basketball event today, I have a rather important History exam tomorrow morn"
Shink Shink Shink.
Yes, improving the caliber of student is most definitely a bad thing for the school. Oh how I wish my alma mater had more morons and imbiciles. Screw academics!
Quote from: That Guy on January 11, 2008, 10:34:21 AM
Admissions, if I applied to Marquette today NO WAY I would get in, they are not letting in ACT 18 - 21s like myself anymore. Those are the guys that have fun. The kids getting into MU are too smart and too weenie. "Oh my god Johnny I cant possibly go to the basketball event today, I have a rather important History exam tomorrow morn"
Totally agree. I should graduate in the Spring, and I know for a fact I would not get into Marquette with my ACT, and high school GPA. I honestly don't know how a lot of kids got in anyway, I guess they really liked the essay portion.
Tribby, I'm sure that That Guy doesn't mean it in those ways, but it entirely makes sense.
Quote from: That Guy on January 11, 2008, 10:34:21 AM
You know what the difference is?
Admissions, if I applied to Marquette today NO WAY I would get in, they are not letting in ACT 18 - 21s like myself anymore. Those are the guys that have fun. The kids getting into MU are too smart and too weenie. "Oh my god Johnny I cant possibly go to the basketball event today, I have a rather important History exam tomorrow morn"
I agree with this 100%. That was one of my biggest frustrations about MU students, they acted like if they went to a midweek game their academic career would go to hell. Grades are important, but MU students now are obsessed with GPAs and don't realize the other parts of college their missing.
As far as the "sloppy" argument, I think it's BS. I did not miss a single game in four years, including breaks. I didn't drink at the games. I went to 4 away games last year including the 13 hour drive overnight for the Georgetown game. I'll be going with a group of non-sloppy '07 alums to Cincy this year.
If that makes me less of a fan, I guess I'll drop a seed or two on the fan line.
If I applied today they would laugh at me.
I am by no means mad at MU for upping the standards. I am simply pointing out the fact that I dont know many kids from high school that got a 28+ on their ACT doing keg stands on the weekends. That is where the lack of sloppyness comes in that this thread is about.
Smart kids dont drink.
Average kids from the SS of Chicago like myself booze until they cant stand.
Average kids dont get into MU anymore. EQUALS
Lack of sloppyness and drinking in the student section. EQUALS
Less "YOUR MOM WORKS AT IHOP" call outs.
And yes the players and refs can hear you when you sit that close. Just ask the guy we got in a fight with on East carolina (Gimp correct me if I am wrong on the team)
You don't know many junior engineers then!!
But really, what ever happened to the smart guys that know how to have fun? I like to think I'm not the only one out there. It's all about balance and the frosh coming in don't understand that getting a 4.0 or 3.5 or w/e isn't everything.
You are correct there are smart guys out there that enjoy drinking too, im not saying ALL.
However its a lot harder to find then if you stroll down to the College of Communications, at least back in my hayday.
as long as the school continually gets harder to get into, that just makes my degree that i earned in May look that much better.
i have heard alot about how many times some of you blew off classes or exams to go to a game, but i have not yet heard from those same mouths how many times they have blown off work to travel to a game. Seems to me that this would be the natural progression of things. yes the school is getting harder to get into, unlike the pants of that drunk girl whose thong everyone could see, and this may be causing a different breed of student to go to the games. This is where i would think that you super fans who did travel all that far to go to games (funny how almost all of them were for the final four) would rise up and act like the super fans they feel that they are. if the students arent showing up and screaming at the players like you used to, then that only leaves room for you to cheer.
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on January 11, 2008, 10:49:06 AM
as long as the school continually gets harder to get into, that just makes my degree that i earned in May look that much better.
i have heard alot about how many times some of you blew off classes or exams to go to a game, but i have not yet heard from those same mouths how many times they have blown off work to travel to a game. Seems to me that this would be the natural progression of things. yes the school is getting harder to get into, unlike the pants of that drunk girl whose thong everyone could see, and this may be causing a different breed of student to go to the games. This is where i would think that you super fans who did travel all that far to go to games (funny how almost all of them were for the final four) would rise up and act like the super fans they feel that they are. if the students aren't showing up and screaming at the players like you used to, then that only leaves room for you to cheer.
ill field this one... for the year after i graduated i would cut out of work early to get in line since i was still using student tickets. i took off 3 days to go out for the BE tourney. i took the day off to go down to depaul and spend the day in chicago. not to mention i took 2 1/2 hour lunches to watch the tourney games where Marquette plays during the day ala Maui first round.
i am no better than other dedicated fans. just proving that the same kids that cut class for games still cut work for games. for everyone that is going to jump all over me that i cheated my education and probably have a crappy job that allows me to cut, i can assure you that is not true. i got the most of my education, finished with a decent GPA, despite a very rocky start, and still got a good job that allows me to pay $7 for a miller at the game. i agree with jaybilaswho, the harder it gets the better my degree looks. looks like ill just have to do the yelling for all the smart kids that aren't at the game.
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
That's a mind-boggling lack of perspective on what's actually important. But at least you're willing to admit you don't "get it."
10 points will be awarded to marqptm for using the word "tits" to describe how awesome something is.
I thought I was one of the few people that actually said that.
Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
That's a mind-boggling lack of perspective on what's actually important. But at least you're willing to admit you don't "get it."
No, I get it. I'm sorry I don't get what you care about.
I'm basically looking at what I care about more. I'll apologize for not believing in ridiculous school rankings. If I did, I would have gone to four other universities that were better than Marquette in academics and better sports programs.
Instead, I came to a school that was ranked in the 90s instead of a Top 50. Those Top 50 schools have more endowment, research, land, and better campuses. Are they necessarily better educations?
I'll let you answer that question for yourself, and then wonder why school rankings matter.
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
That's a mind-boggling lack of perspective on what's actually important. But at least you're willing to admit you don't "get it."
No, I get it. I'm sorry I don't get what you care about.
I'm basically looking at what I care about more. I'll apologize for not believing in ridiculous school rankings. If I did, I would have gone to four other universities that were better than Marquette in academics and better sports programs.
Instead, I came to a schools that was ranked in the 90s instead of a Top 50. Those Top 50 schools have more endowment, research, land, and better campuses. Are they necessarily better educations?
I'll let you answer that question for yourself, and then wonder why school rankings matter.
I agree, academics rankings are no more relevant than the AP basketball poll. At the end of the day, it's about what you learned/who you beat.
My point isn't the rankings, it's about the quality of school. Would you rather Marquette students excell in the classroom or on the court? Ideally they would do both, but man, if you think basketball is more important than academics, your priorities are way out of wack.
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
That's a mind-boggling lack of perspective on what's actually important. But at least you're willing to admit you don't "get it."
No, I get it. I'm sorry I don't get what you care about.
I'm basically looking at what I care about more. I'll apologize for not believing in ridiculous school rankings. If I did, I would have gone to four other universities that were better than Marquette in academics and better sports programs.
Instead, I came to a schools that was ranked in the 90s instead of a Top 50. Those Top 50 schools have more endowment, research, land, and better campuses. Are they necessarily better educations?
I'll let you answer that question for yourself, and then wonder why school rankings matter.
Ideally they would do both, but man, if you think basketball is more important than academics, your priorities are way out of wack.
I never said that. I said I could careless where Marquette is ranked academically because they mean nothing. However, the basketball polls do mean something.
I do have a question for you, it's a personal opinon. What has raised Marquette admission standards over the last 4-5 years? MU Basketball or Academics?
I can honestly say I got more excited for an MU win than for an A on a test.
Basketball all the way.
Everytime I tell someone I go to Marquette 9 times out of 10 the response is "oh didnt Dwyane Wade go there?"
My point exactly.
Quote from: marqptm on January 11, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: marqptm on January 11, 2008, 10:57:44 AM
Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
That's a mind-boggling lack of perspective on what's actually important. But at least you're willing to admit you don't "get it."
No, I get it. I'm sorry I don't get what you care about.
I'm basically looking at what I care about more. I'll apologize for not believing in ridiculous school rankings. If I did, I would have gone to four other universities that were better than Marquette in academics and better sports programs.
Instead, I came to a schools that was ranked in the 90s instead of a Top 50. Those Top 50 schools have more endowment, research, land, and better campuses. Are they necessarily better educations?
I'll let you answer that question for yourself, and then wonder why school rankings matter.
Ideally they would do both, but man, if you think basketball is more important than academics, your priorities are way out of wack.
I do have a question for you, it's a personal opinon. What has raised Marquette admission standards over the last 4-5 years? MU Basketball or Academics?
I wouldnt say that MU Basketball, because the program really didnt do anything. i would say that one man changed MU's application and enrollmant. None other than NBA Finals MVP Dwayne Wade. he should also get all the credit for our final four run; not crean.
Quote from: marqptm on January 11, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
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Quote from: Tribby on January 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM
Tell you what: You give me the choice between MU being ranked in the top 10 schools in the country in terms of academics or basketball, I'm going to choose academics, and it's not even close. I would hope that everyone else on this board would do the same, but I highly doubt that's the case. Kind of pathetic, really.
After I graduate, my only connection with the university will be basketball. If I have children I doubt my kid will go to Marquette.
I would never brag to my friends that Marquette is a now a Top 20 university (it will never happen anyway). However, it will be awesome to brag about Marquette being the tits at basketball.
So, yes I'd rather have a Top 10 basketball team than a Top 20 university.
That's a mind-boggling lack of perspective on what's actually important. But at least you're willing to admit you don't "get it."
No, I get it. I'm sorry I don't get what you care about.
I'm basically looking at what I care about more. I'll apologize for not believing in ridiculous school rankings. If I did, I would have gone to four other universities that were better than Marquette in academics and better sports programs.
Instead, I came to a schools that was ranked in the 90s instead of a Top 50. Those Top 50 schools have more endowment, research, land, and better campuses. Are they necessarily better educations?
I'll let you answer that question for yourself, and then wonder why school rankings matter.
Ideally they would do both, but man, if you think basketball is more important than academics, your priorities are way out of wack.
I never said that. I said I could careless where Marquette is ranked academically because they mean nothing. However, the basketball polls do mean something.
I do have a question for you, it's a personal opinon. What has raised Marquette admission standards over the last 4-5 years? MU Basketball or Academics?
Good basketball raises admissions, which in turn raises academics, which in turn raises admissions. I never said basketball wasn't part of the equation; it is. All I'm saying is, let's not lose sight of what the primary goal of Marquette University is--it's academics, not basketball.
I wouldnt say that MU Basketball, because the program really didnt do anything. i would say that one man changed MU's application and enrollmant. None other than NBA Finals MVP Dwayne Wade. he should also get all the credit for our final four run; not crean.
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Ridiculous comment ...
You're right, no credit should be given to the man who recruited, coached, and helped develop Wade. I believe Wade has often stated that Crean was no help to him and he became the great player he is today all on his own.
One thing that bothers me is when people say that the only reason we went to the Final Four was because of Wade. It was a team effort, led by Wade. Please go back and watch the Holy Cross game.
right. wade was not a highly touted recruit for college. thank god that Crean was able to talk him into signing with MU. take wade out of the equation and MU never would have made it to the final four, the program would not be as respected as it is, and enrollment would not have gone up. Crean might have developed him, i will give you that, but as far as anything else he did nothing.
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on January 11, 2008, 12:04:10 PM
right. wade was not a highly touted recruit for college. thank god that Crean was able to talk him into signing with MU. take wade out of the equation and MU never would have made it to the final four, the program would not be as respected as it is, and enrollment would not have gone up. Crean might have developed him, i will give you that, but as far as anything else he did nothing.
And take either Travis Diener, Robert Jackson, Scott Merritt, Karon Bradley, Steve Novak or Joe Chapman out of the equation and MU does not go to the Final Four. IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT!!!!
you are saying that we make the final four that year, without wade's, close to, 22 points per game? how about the fact that he scored 27% of our points that year (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/dwyane-wade)? diener, novak good players... not going to get you to the final four. your comfortable with Robert "Blackcula" Jackson and Scott Merritt on the floor if you were trying to get to the final four? that was joe chapmans freshmen year. He was not that valuable of a player his freshmen year, at least his contribution was not enough to push the team in the final four, same for Karon Bradley. why didnd you through in Chris Grimm??? he only had a few less points than bradley.
no love for townsend??
They were support players that were nothign more than a garnish to dwayne wade.
Without Diener we lose to Holy Cross. Tournament over.
Quote from: marqptm on January 11, 2008, 12:28:19 PM
Without Diener we lose to Holy Cross. Tournament over.
without diener we dont get passed the first round... hmmm wonder what that would feel like.
Keeping in mind that people not associated with Marquette University may visit this site, can we please delete this post already? It's an embarrassment...
Testing your theory that "smart" student bodies lead to lesser basketball crowds--
How do you account for Duke (one example that springs to mind), UCLA, and even Michigan having great student sections? All of these schools are top-notch academic institutions that also happen to have excellent basketball programs.
How about Stanford? Their fans are pretty insane.
I don't think your theory holds water. Smarter student bodies can still provide great fans and student sections.
And I know a lot of smart people (28+ on ACT, to use your imperfect measuring stick) who drink and party. A lot. I don't think that makes them cool, but again, I think it's pretty asinine to say "smart kids don't drink." Maybe you don't know any of them, but I'm confident that there will be plenty of Dean's List kids knocking back beers tonight.
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on January 11, 2008, 12:26:57 PM
you are saying that we make the final four that year, without wade's, close to, 22 points per game? how about the fact that he scored 27% of our points that year (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/dwyane-wade)? diener, novak good players... not going to get you to the final four. your comfortable with Robert "Blackcula" Jackson and Scott Merritt on the floor if you were trying to get to the final four? that was joe chapmans freshmen year. He was not that valuable of a player his freshmen year, at least his contribution was not enough to push the team in the final four, same for Karon Bradley. why didnd you through in Chris Grimm??? he only had a few less points than bradley.
no love for townsend??
They were support players that were nothign more than a garnish to dwayne wade.
Never stated that without Wade that the team still would have made the Final Four. I was pointing out that your statement of "he (Wade) should also get all the credit for our final four run" is wrong. Again, Wade led MU there, but others played an important and critical role in our success both during the season and in the tournament.
At one point in this thread, Marqptm says he barely got into MU. At another point he says he would have gone to one of four schools with better academics if he was concerned at all about that sort of thing.
All of his posts in this thread are moronic.
Quote from: bob on January 11, 2008, 12:51:30 PM
At one point in this thread, Marqptm says he barely got into MU. At another point he says he would have gone to one of four schools with better academics if he was concerned at all about that sort of thing.
All of his posts in this thread are moronic.
LOL! For the record, since it was the first thing I thought of, this is not me signing up with a different username, I swear. ;D
Quote from: bob on January 11, 2008, 12:51:30 PM
At one point in this thread, Marqptm says he barely got into MU. At another point he says he would have gone to one of four schools with better academics if he was concerned at all about that sort of thing.
All of his posts in this thread are moronic.
I don't know if you really read, but I stated that I could barely get into Marquette if I were applying today. But go ahead, shows your reading comprehension skills.
Quote from: marqptm on January 11, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
Quote from: That Guy on January 11, 2008, 10:34:21 AM
Admissions, if I applied to Marquette today NO WAY I would get in, they are not letting in ACT 18 - 21s like myself anymore. Those are the guys that have fun. The kids getting into MU are too smart and too weenie. "Oh my god Johnny I cant possibly go to the basketball event today, I have a rather important History exam tomorrow morn"
Totally agree. I should graduate in the Spring, and I know for a fact I would not get into Marquette with my ACT, and high school GPA. I honestly don't know how a lot of kids got in anyway, I guess they really liked the essay portion.
Tribby, I'm sure that That Guy doesn't mean it in those ways, but it entirely makes sense.
I think Bob's point is that if your GPA and test scores of four years ago aren't good enough to get you into MU now, there's no way you would have been admitted to four schools in the top 50 four years ago.
And he's right.
You're exaggerating one way or the other. I call BS.
Michigan State, Madison, Purdue, and Illinois.
Upon checking those facts I was wrong. MSU is only 71. Purdue is only 64. My apologies.
I think it's pretty obvious why I chose Marquette over some other schools I was accepted at.
Do you realize how much Marquette admissions has raised over the last couple years? Like That Guy said, 4-5 years ago 18-21 ACT scores were not uncommon. Today, you need 26+ to even get looked at. That is quite the increase over a little amount of time.
I do realize that the standards have improved considerably. I think it's a good thing. It will help the university in both the near and long term.
I applied to schools over 10 years ago. If I had an ACT of 18 at that time there's no way that Illinois or Madison would have sniffed my application, much less 4 years ago.
Quote from: bartmiller#1 on January 11, 2008, 02:02:48 PM
I do realize that the standards have improved considerably. I think it's a good thing. It will help the university in both the near and long term.
I applied to schools over 10 years ago. If I had an ACT of 18 at that time there's no way that Illinois or Madison would have sniffed my application, much less 4 years ago.
well i am going to have to make a large donation or i am going to have to marry a smart one and hope my kids get her brains. damn 26? I graduated and May and my kind is already not wanted.
that sucks
Quote from: bartmiller#1 on January 11, 2008, 02:02:48 PM
I do realize that the standards have improved considerably. I think it's a good thing. It will help the university in both the near and long term.
I applied to schools over 10 years ago. If I had an ACT of 18 at that time there's no way that Illinois or Madison would have sniffed my application, much less 4 years ago.
Did I say I had an ACT of 18? No. But it wasn't long ago where 18s were accepted at Marquette.
I guess I'll take your word for it. I didn't know anyone at MU who had an 18 on his or her ACT.
There may have been a few FFP guys who were nearly that low, but even they cracked the 20s.
Bottom line: 18 is a garbage score. MU shouldn't accept students who can't do better than that.
26?? Judging from the kids in the English 1 sections my sister taught last semester, the ACT must've got way easier since I took it.
And they even added a writing portion to it!!
Marqptm,
You need a 26+ to even get looked at?????
29% of the class of 2010 has an ACT of 24 or below.
http://www.marquette.edu/student/ugrad/admissionprofile.shtml
Quote from: bob on January 11, 2008, 04:09:47 PM
Marqptm,
You need a 26+ to even get looked at?????
29% of the class of 2010 has an ACT of 24 or below.
http://www.marquette.edu/student/ugrad/admissionprofile.shtml
I assume it depends on the College/Major.
ACT scores overall are on the rise. The national average (aka 50th percentile) is now a 21. The Writing section is optional and has no effect on your cumulative score. However, at all universities, less weight is being placed on the numbers (GPA, ACT score) and more is being put on the subjective portion(essays, interviews).
Marquette's intro English classes suck. I was a fantastic English student but I refused to put any effort in because I hated that class so much.
Quote from: Steak on January 11, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Marquette's intro English classes suck. I was a fantastic English student but I refused to put any effort in because I hated that class so much.
Did you refuse to put any effort in to the extent of recycling old papers from high school that clearly do not fit the assignment or just not doing any work whatsoever or not knowing how to properly address an envelope? I could go on with these types of stories. I'm not completely sure what goes on in those classes (I tested out of them), but from what my sister told me about the curriculum, I'd have to agree with you that they suck. And apparently, a few of the kids taking them, in all honesty, also suck.
Oh, I did the assignments, but I half-assed them. I'm not even sure if I used half of my ass, maybe it was quarter-assed.
Tribby,
Are your shorts to tight? You are a really harsh old nag.
Quote from: NateDoggMarq on January 11, 2008, 07:43:43 AM
YOU STUDENTS NEED TO GET TO ROAD GAMES.
Go into Credit Card debt, sacrifice a mid-term, break up with your DSHA GF i dont care just get to the games or else MU fans will soon become what Duke fans are (Snotty, dont drink, nerds)
I worked the grounds crew at MU which starts at 6:am than go to my first two classes smelling like Garbage so I could raise money for MU road trips, I skipped a mid-term because of the final 4, I gained 50lbs over a basketball season o beer and fun-yons.
But that is sacrifice.
I CHALLENGE YOU STUDENTS TO GET SLOPPY AND GO TO ROAD GAMES
I AM A 26 YEAR OLD MARRIED LOSER WHO STILL ACTS LIKE I AM 8 BUT GOD DAMN AM I PROUD OF IT
While road games sound like a good time, I think very few students are dedicated enough to make the trips. Chicago would be fine, but I wouldn't be willing to go into credit card debt, any significant part of my grades, or break up with the gf for a road game (though it might be a good idea as the previously discussed drunk girl in 106 was looking pretty hot yesterday. She must have waddled by where I was sitting 5 times to get another beer. She must be trying to surpass that 50 lb "basketball season" weight gain because it looks like she's already about 30 lbs overweight.
The games are entertainment and something to follow, but most students don't take it any further. I can honestly say if we didn't have a basketball team or the team was always terrible I probably wouldn't have gone to MU. But it's a feature of the school that made me want to come, and not worth sacrificing things that are more important to me to prove a point to someone.
I will agree that the student section isn't as crazy as it was even two years ago. I don't know if it's just a change in student behavior, not having any home games that stir up the "underdog" mentality, or just a huge need for $1 beer night.
Quote from: jlhiii on January 11, 2008, 08:39:01 PM
Tribby,
Are your shorts to tight? You are a really harsh old nag.
The irony of making an easy grammatical error while criticizing someone for paying "to" much attention to academics is wonderful. Thanks for making me chuckle.
Quote from: Steak on January 11, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Marquette's intro English classes suck. I was a fantastic English student but I refused to put any effort in because I hated that class so much.
That was all I heard freshman year. Made me really glad I APd out of them.
Does worrying about academics make you a bad fan? I had some spotty attendance my first two years, but I certainly wasn't using my time to worry about grades. This year, I've only missed one game (counting men's and women's, break games too) and I got my best grades ever.
But Athletics pays for my ticket, so there's some limits to how
sloppy cool I can be :)
ok, this whole thread is, if i may be a complete hypocrite by making one, a huge stupid assumption and stereotype.
I am one of the more fervent student fans of our bball program (that includes Men AND Women) of my friends and classmates (not saying out of the whole student body or anything!!), and right now I will do everything in my power to see the BEast games, either by TV or in person @ the BC. And guess what? I'm carrying 19 credits of medicine this semester and it's not any walk in the park to learn medicine. Last year I was that girl still screaming at Nietzel during the godawful NCAA game when it was dim and grim; I have gone hoarse shouting at games and helped start cheers and brought the energy and excitement of MU bball to everyone in my life and i MAKE people hear about us. and guess what? 3 of the last 4 years, I was in band, not drunk, just hyped up on hormones and caffeine I'm sure. Yes, my way was paid to away games, but you know what, I made sure MU was well represented by heckling the players and cheering our games. Maybe i'm not going to shout "F you ND" but you better believe I will get on the other team's case every chance I have.
it doesn't matter if you are straight A or a C gets degrees student, it doesn't matter if you are wet or dry as a Mormon, you can be a spectacular MU fan, so let's just stop acting like only imbeciles are good fans b/c that's just terrible logic.
Did the band just try to one up all of us?
Quote from: muwarrior87 on January 11, 2008, 08:04:20 AM
please tell me this is sarcasm. MU students were in full force at ND last year as well as DuhPaul.
Yeah, we drove down in that huge snowstorm. Took almost 8 hours to get back it was so bad.
Even though we lost, it was the best game I've been to in my year and a half.
Quote from: That Guy on January 11, 2008, 11:07:53 AM
10 points will be awarded to marqptm for using the word "tits" to describe how awesome something is.
I thought I was one of the few people that actually said that.
haha,my roommate and I were just discussing how disappointing it is that so few people use that phrase.
Quote from: rugbydrummer on January 15, 2008, 04:32:44 PM
it doesn't matter if you are straight A or a C gets degrees student,
Or a "D gets degrees" student in the college of engineering ;D
Quote from: muarmy81 on January 16, 2008, 05:44:42 AM
Quote from: rugbydrummer on January 15, 2008, 04:32:44 PM
it doesn't matter if you are straight A or a C gets degrees student,
Or a "D gets degrees" student in the college of engineering ;D
Uhhh... the College of Engineering demands a 'C' average or better in all coursework within the College of Engineering, and a 'C' average or better in the Marquette Core Curriculum classes to graduate.
Quote from: mcnaulty21 on January 16, 2008, 01:26:25 AM
Quote from: That Guy on January 11, 2008, 11:07:53 AM
10 points will be awarded to marqptm for using the word "tits" to describe how awesome something is.
I thought I was one of the few people that actually said that.
haha,my roommate and I were just discussing how disappointing it is that so few people use that phrase.
I too enjoy the use of the phrase tits. Been using it with friends since high school in the mid 1990s.
marqptm:
QuoteI said I could careless
I have said it before, it is my pet peeve, and no offense intended, but my one man fight to eradicate the illogical phrase must go on -------->
The phrase is "I could NOT care less"! Please think about it.
Quote from: Coach Norman Dale on January 16, 2008, 10:51:26 AM
marqptm: QuoteI said I could careless
I have said it before, it is my pet peeve, and no offense intended, but my one man fight to eradicate the illogical phrase must go on -------->
The phrase is "I could NOT care less"! Please think about it.
I guess it could make sense to say "I could care less".
I agree that the current students are not true fans....
until you punch an elderly, chicago, sports reporter you are weak!!! Drink up!!![color]
Quote from: Tribby on January 13, 2008, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: jlhiii on January 11, 2008, 08:39:01 PM
Tribby,
Are your shorts to tight? You are a really harsh old nag.
The irony of making an easy grammatical error while criticizing someone for paying "to" much attention to academics is wonderful. Thanks for making me chuckle.
Nice Tribby. My statement has less to do with your stance for academic excellence and more to do with your harsh, naggy tone.
jlhiii/Tribby: take a chill pill or take it to PMs.